|
Post by Mickmack on Mar 12, 2019 23:33:26 GMT
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on Mar 18, 2019 12:19:43 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Mickmack on Mar 18, 2019 23:21:48 GMT
I saw on TG4 tonight that an Ghaeltacht will have a new second pitch near Gallarus in time for Comortas na Gaeltachta this year...which they are hosting. They went door to door to collect money for it. Big drainage put in too. Great to see it.
|
|
jkb
On Probation
Posts: 7
|
Post by jkb on Mar 25, 2019 22:07:09 GMT
Kerry training
Are they in Fitzgerald Stadium yet? Is it open or closed shop.
|
|
|
Post by Mickmack on Mar 30, 2019 21:36:01 GMT
by Michael Clifford March 30, 2019 - 06:00 AM
The hardy monks used to winter in Ballinskelligs. They’d come in from the Rock as the weather turned nasty at the darkest time of year. And then, when the Skellig could no longer be inhabited at all, they moved lock, stock and barrel into Ballinskelligs and established an abbey.
The monks were no fools. They knew when they had stumbled across Paradise. These days, the South Kerry hamlet of Ballinskelligs attracts the multitudes in the summer rather than the monks in the winter. It’s an area blessed by nature. McCarthy’s ancient castle is at the tip of the elliptical-shaped beach.
The sandy rim of Ballinskelligs Bay loops around to Waterville village and onto the dark slopes of Coomakista. You could be in Vietnam, or a hidden island in the South Seas. When the sun shines on the bay you’d be hard pressed to find a better place to be this side of Hawaii.
Unfortunately, you can’t eat the scenery. In recent decades, the Iveragh peninsula, in which Ballinskelligs nestles, has suffered depopulation, lack of investment, flight from the land, all the symptoms of the decline of rural Ireland.
Some decline is inevitable. But throughout the country communities are mobilising, innovating, resisting. However, recent travails in Iveragh highlight another aspect to rural decline and raises serious questions about whether or not planning law is fit for purpose in today’s world.
The only hotel in Ballinskelligs, Cable O’Leary’s, sits high above the beach. It’s in poor nick, having been around in one form or another for the guts of a century.
A local family, the O’Sullivans, who made good in construction in New York, bought the hotel a few years ago. Big plans. Expand, go up a single storey to three. Throw in a gym. Build it and they will come year-round. Where better to spend a winter break?
Learn more A meeting attended by around 500 people last week heard that those plans are now in shreds. An Bord Pleanála has refused permission, following an appeal in which two objections persisted. One of the objectors is believed to a well-to-do person who has retired to the area. Another is from an address in Kenmare, about 65km away.
There is huge local anger that a plan to pump life into the area, provide jobs and brighten the future, can be killed by two individuals acting in their own self-interest.
A letter read out at the meeting from the developer Kevin O’Sullivan stated that he shared the anger of all the other locals. He feels he now has no choice but to close the existing hotel as it is no longer viable and in danger of falling into disrepair.
Most of the 300 or so owners of holiday homes in the area, including TD Alan Kelly, are in favour of the development. But the wishes of the vast majority are redundant in this instance.
Ironically, some of the nearby holiday home developments were decried as entirely inappropriate by conservation bodies when built during the boom.
About a mile or so from Ballinskellings, near Reenroe beach, stands the skeletal concrete frame of another hotel, built in the 1970s, and abandoned within a few years. This represented a local man’s ill-timed vision; a leisure and hotel complex for a wealthy country before the country became wealthy. Over a decade ago, a plan emerged by a large company to redevelop the building.
That foundered on one objection, from a man living in Canada who owned a holiday home nearby. The shell is still there, a decrepit monument to one man’s folly and another’s insistence that his needs were greater than those of the local community.
In nearby Caherciveen, there was a small boost earlier this year when it was announced that Aldi was coming to town to create 20 jobs. The peninsula is without any German or British multiple outlet.
In the last few weeks, apparently on the last day for lodging objections, Kerry County Council received one. The objection was submitted by a planning consultant on behalf of a client. At the very least, this threatened delay to yet another attempt to inject life into a rural outpost. On Thursday, with local anger piping, and the inevitability of the objector’s identity being unmasked, the objection was withdrawn.
Many on the peninsula have invested hope in the greenway. If you build this they will come in their multitudes. The Greenway is proposed to run along an old railway line from Glenbeigh down to Caherciveen and onto Renard Point, from where the ferry departs for Valentia Island. The 32km cycleway, including viaducts, tunnels and spectacular scenery, has massive potential.
The chairman of the local development group, Frank Curran, told the Irish Examiner last year that the project would be a game-changer for the area.
“We could have hundreds of thousands coming into the area every year and 70 or 80 jobs created directly,” he said.
It would a huge boost for B&Bs as well, and this is not plucking figures out of the sky. We’ve seen that in the likes of Waterford where the greenway is a big success. The great thing is that it is sustainable, eco-friendly and not weather dependent. It could really make a serious difference.
Of the fifty or so landowners along the route, around a dozen are objecting. The project has already been delayed by at least four years. Informed opinion has it that maybe half the objectors are open to compromise. That leaves less than half a dozen who claim to be making a stand on principle.
Collectively, a handful of individuals are managing to frustrate, delay or kill off projects in an area that is struggling desperately to stay alive. On the face of it, all of these objections are entirely based on the self-interest of the individuals.
The planning laws in this State are nominally based on the “common good”, as defined in the landmark 1963 Planning Act. Where lies the common good in the projects outlined in this column?
Arguably, the common good was not served in rural areas such as South Kerry in the last 50 years through the proliferation of one-off housing. In many of these instances, exceptions became the rule, as local politicians pandered to farmers and landowners.
If the common good had been served, towns like Caherciveen wouldn’t have been hollowed out and would now be in a better position to tackle decline. But we are where we are. In planning terms, there must now be a requirement for rural decline and economic imperative to receive far greater concern than heretofore.
This does not have to lead to compromise in terms of broad planning principles. But if more than lip service is to be given to tackling rural decline, it is an issue that demands immediate and serious attention.
|
|
|
Post by taibhse on Mar 31, 2019 8:42:35 GMT
Kerry training Are they in Fitzgerald Stadium yet? Is it open or closed shop. No. Still out the country! There is no restriction on anybody trotting along to see what's going on. Never more than two or three there. Yet, when they do close the gates in Killarney, (at some stage they inevitably will) people will be incensed that they cannot go inside at will. Fair dues to the management for facilitating supporters in so far as they can.
|
|
|
Post by glengael on Apr 2, 2019 8:28:58 GMT
|
|
|
Post by sullyschoice on Apr 2, 2019 19:05:25 GMT
RIP. A good friend and colleague of John Creedon who spoke very fondly about him last night
|
|
|
Post by glengael on Apr 4, 2019 8:20:46 GMT
The words Cork and radical usually don't appear in the same sentence. At least they are exploring different options.
________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Cork clubs reject radical proposal
By Tony Leen Sports Editor
Tuesday, April 02, 2019 - 10:30 PM Cork GAA clubs last night rejected moves to introduce county championship matches without inter-county players.
The controversial proposal was tabled last week by the Board executive as a potential solution to the summer of inactivity for over 95% of club players.
The plan to introduce a five-game league system, two of them without county players, has provoked fevered debate across Cork and the organisation in general, and commanded greater than expected support before last night’s meeting, attended by over 200 delegates.
However, the option of three guaranteed championship games – one in April, and two more in August – was the preferred choice of delegates after a vote at Pairc Ui Chaoimh. That ‘Option A’ received 136 votes, the left-field Option C got 52 votes, and Option B 33 votes.
Some angry club representatives challenged the Board executive to explain why the decision was so urgent, and if a special Convention was a more appropriate forum for such a fundamental change to championship structures.
Clonakilty delegate Ger McCarthy said his senior football team would be decimated if they had to play two of the proposed five championship games without their inter county players.
Central Council delegate Bob Ryan said the idea of championship matches without inter county players was “absolutely out of the question,” but Killeagh delegate Damien Irwin said that when their club meeting discussed the options in detail, 24 of the 25 present favoured Option C as it “gave the club back a bit of standing.”
The proposed changes will be introduced in 2020 for two years with a streamlined grading system of four tiers with 12 teams in each – Senior A, Senior, Premier Intermediate and Intermediate.
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on Apr 4, 2019 8:30:18 GMT
I thought the proposal to play championship without county players was radical until I read further and saw a league system of 5 games, three without the county players. Maybe it has merit in creating a club fixtures structure...............across the whole country.
|
|
|
Post by southward on Apr 4, 2019 19:30:47 GMT
The words Cork and radical usually don't appear in the same sentence. At least they are exploring different options. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Cork clubs reject radical proposal By Tony Leen Sports Editor Tuesday, April 02, 2019 - 10:30 PM Cork GAA clubs last night rejected moves to introduce county championship matches without inter-county players. The controversial proposal was tabled last week by the Board executive as a potential solution to the summer of inactivity for over 95% of club players. The plan to introduce a five-game league system, two of them without county players, has provoked fevered debate across Cork and the organisation in general, and commanded greater than expected support before last night’s meeting, attended by over 200 delegates. However, the option of three guaranteed championship games – one in April, and two more in August – was the preferred choice of delegates after a vote at Pairc Ui Chaoimh. That ‘Option A’ received 136 votes, the left-field Option C got 52 votes, and Option B 33 votes. Some angry club representatives challenged the Board executive to explain why the decision was so urgent, and if a special Convention was a more appropriate forum for such a fundamental change to championship structures. Clonakilty delegate Ger McCarthy said his senior football team would be decimated if they had to play two of the proposed five championship games without their inter county players. Central Council delegate Bob Ryan said the idea of championship matches without inter county players was “absolutely out of the question,” but Killeagh delegate Damien Irwin said that when their club meeting discussed the options in detail, 24 of the 25 present favoured Option C as it “gave the club back a bit of standing.” The proposed changes will be introduced in 2020 for two years with a streamlined grading system of four tiers with 12 teams in each – Senior A, Senior, Premier Intermediate and Intermediate. The way their county players are going at the moment, you'd have to wonder what the big deal is.
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on Apr 5, 2019 8:33:29 GMT
Oocchh!
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on Apr 5, 2019 8:35:26 GMT
Cold turkey setting in this weekend after the great feast served up throughout the condensed NFL....................
|
|
|
Post by glengael on Apr 5, 2019 8:40:39 GMT
The words Cork and radical usually don't appear in the same sentence. At least they are exploring different options. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Cork clubs reject radical proposal By Tony Leen Sports Editor Tuesday, April 02, 2019 - 10:30 PM Cork GAA clubs last night rejected moves to introduce county championship matches without inter-county players. The controversial proposal was tabled last week by the Board executive as a potential solution to the summer of inactivity for over 95% of club players. The plan to introduce a five-game league system, two of them without county players, has provoked fevered debate across Cork and the organisation in general, and commanded greater than expected support before last night’s meeting, attended by over 200 delegates. However, the option of three guaranteed championship games – one in April, and two more in August – was the preferred choice of delegates after a vote at Pairc Ui Chaoimh. That ‘Option A’ received 136 votes, the left-field Option C got 52 votes, and Option B 33 votes. Some angry club representatives challenged the Board executive to explain why the decision was so urgent, and if a special Convention was a more appropriate forum for such a fundamental change to championship structures. Clonakilty delegate Ger McCarthy said his senior football team would be decimated if they had to play two of the proposed five championship games without their inter county players. Central Council delegate Bob Ryan said the idea of championship matches without inter county players was “absolutely out of the question,” but Killeagh delegate Damien Irwin said that when their club meeting discussed the options in detail, 24 of the 25 present favoured Option C as it “gave the club back a bit of standing.” The proposed changes will be introduced in 2020 for two years with a streamlined grading system of four tiers with 12 teams in each – Senior A, Senior, Premier Intermediate and Intermediate. The way their county players are going at the moment, you'd have to wonder what the big deal is. Well things might not always be going that badly for them so I suspect they are thinking of the future.
|
|
|
Post by veteran on Apr 17, 2019 9:37:49 GMT
At the time of the Liam Millar farrago last summer the GAA was peppered with the usual pejorative comments - Grab All Association etc. Two of the illuminati from the soccer fraternity-Stephen Kenny and Damian Duff- branded the GAA administrators "dinosaurs". Sport Ireland would do well to second some of these dinosaurs to the new board of the FAI.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2019 10:49:00 GMT
There have been plenty of bookkeeping and credit card issues in the GAA also.
|
|
kerryexile
Fanatical Member
Whether you believe that you can, or that you can't, you are right anyway.
Posts: 1,108
|
Post by kerryexile on Apr 17, 2019 11:59:19 GMT
At the time of the Liam Millar farrago last summer the GAA was peppered with the usual pejorative comments - Grab All Association etc. Two of the illuminati from the soccer fraternity-Stephen Kenny and Damian Duff- branded the GAA administrators "dinosaurs". Sport Ireland would do well to second some of these dinosaurs to the new board of the FAI. Veteran - i agree with you 100%. One of the indications that the lunatics were running the asylum was the ridiculous situation around the appointment of Kenny after Mick McCarthy. And irony of ironies as manager he will be a guest of the GAA at All-Irelands.
|
|
|
Post by Mickmack on Apr 17, 2019 16:25:44 GMT
At the time of the Liam Millar farrago last summer the GAA was peppered with the usual pejorative comments - Grab All Association etc. Two of the illuminati from the soccer fraternity-Stephen Kenny and Damian Duff- branded the GAA administrators "dinosaurs". Sport Ireland would do well to second some of these dinosaurs to the new board of the FAI. You will always have comments like that born of prejudice and ignorance and jealousy. That said, allowing the Liam Miller game in PUC was the right thing to do in my opinion.
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on Apr 18, 2019 8:07:02 GMT
|
|
|
Post by southward on Apr 18, 2019 12:02:14 GMT
By what power does the GAA dictate where citizens can and can't go?
|
|
|
Post by clarinman on Apr 18, 2019 19:05:59 GMT
By what power does the GAA dictate where citizens can and can't go? Not citizens, members of the GAA. Big difference.
|
|
|
Post by southward on Apr 18, 2019 20:20:06 GMT
By what power does the GAA dictate where citizens can and can't go? Not citizens, members of the GAA. Big difference. Members, yes, but they're not owned, or even employed, by the GAA. Croke Park can't just impose arbitrary restrictions on people's movements. I'd love to hear the rationale for this. The calendar bans I get, player welfare/club considerations and all that, but a ban on going abroad just seems bizarre. I'd be surprised if this isn't challenged. Not a hope it stands up in court, if it ever comes to that.
|
|
|
Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 18, 2019 21:15:22 GMT
A fight against the creep to professionalism?
|
|
|
Post by southward on Apr 18, 2019 21:39:59 GMT
A fight against the creep to professionalism? It's a possible reasoning but if so, why not a ban on having armies of coaches, S&C guys, mind-gurus etc? Why allow mega-sponsorships by private corporations? Why just foreign camps?
|
|
|
Post by Mickmack on Apr 23, 2019 17:09:50 GMT
Do i think the divisional concept should be scrapped and binned?
The short answer is no.
The long answer is that with the minor championship for example, wouldnt it be better if more teenagers got to play in the minor county championship with their clubs.
If two or three clubs need to go together to get a panel of 25 together, thats fine.
I think the county board should be proactive in getting as many teams as possible to participate.
|
|
|
Post by buck02 on Apr 24, 2019 10:58:04 GMT
I didnt see it getting a mention in any of the media outlets over the weekend - which itself is a worry - but towards the end of last week, the Club Players Association issued an email to its members on the back of the new GAA "Manifesto" that was all over the papers and social media last week.
Focusing on the GAA continuing dismissal of the CPA in the attempt to fix the fixtures problem, the CPA took aim at the GAA using parts of the new manifesto to highlight their issues.
It ended with the warning of an "escalation" as a possible next step.
We are lucky here in Kerry with the club championship action we have seen over the last few weeks and which will see the finals played over the coming weekends. Players in other counties are not so lucky.
I think the only way the GAA will listen to the club players is by clubs taking strike action and stopping play in all competition and all grades for a number of weeks around this time of the year. The GAA are in reality an organisation who have a reactionary culture - they wont change the lot of the majority of the playing population until drastic action is taking IMO.
|
|
|
Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 24, 2019 17:05:59 GMT
Do i think the divisional concept should be scrapped and binned? The short answer is no. The long answer is that with the minor championship for example, wouldnt it be better if more teenagers got to play in the minor county championship with their clubs. If two or three clubs need to go together to get a panel of 25 together, thats fine. I think the county board should be proactive in getting as many teams as possible to participate. Participation is key at all underage levels but becomes even more important as you get closer to senior level- due to that being the main time of drop off. More games for more players makes complete sense. For the last few years- east kerry have made a farce of the minor championship with rathmore & kilcummin going back in with them even when they were senior themselves. Across such a large geographical area and some big clubs- you had 15 players getting minor championship experience- it was ludicrous.
|
|
|
Post by Mickmack on Apr 24, 2019 17:26:51 GMT
I didnt see it getting a mention in any of the media outlets over the weekend - which itself is a worry - but towards the end of last week, the Club Players Association issued an email to its members on the back of the new GAA "Manifesto" that was all over the papers and social media last week. Focusing on the GAA continuing dismissal of the CPA in the attempt to fix the fixtures problem, the CPA took aim at the GAA using parts of the new manifesto to highlight their issues. It ended with the warning of an "escalation" as a possible next step. We are lucky here in Kerry with the club championship action we have seen over the last few weeks and which will see the finals played over the coming weekends. Players in other counties are not so lucky. I think the only way the GAA will listen to the club players is by clubs taking strike action and stopping play in all competition and all grades for a number of weeks around this time of the year. The GAA are in reality an organisation who have a reactionary culture - they wont change the lot of the majority of the playing population until drastic action is taking IMO. re the point about the club championship in april, the county board do a great job with that. However most counties dont have the "luxury" Kerry have of being in Munster with no real competitive inter county game till the super 8 in mid july. The county championship could be run off in May and June to give the players a bit of game time.
|
|
|
Post by Mickmack on Apr 24, 2019 17:43:15 GMT
Do i think the divisional concept should be scrapped and binned? The short answer is no. The long answer is that with the minor championship for example, wouldnt it be better if more teenagers got to play in the minor county championship with their clubs. If two or three clubs need to go together to get a panel of 25 together, thats fine. I think the county board should be proactive in getting as many teams as possible to participate. Participation is key at all underage levels but becomes even more important as you get closer to senior level- due to that being the main time of drop off. More games for more players makes complete sense. For the last few years- east kerry have made a farce of the minor championship with rathmore & kilcummin going back in with them even when they were senior themselves. Across such a large geographical area and some big clubs- you had 15 players getting minor championship experience- it was ludicrous. Its common enough in the minor hurling championship to see two clubs joining up to put a team together if they dont themselves have the numbers.
|
|
|
Post by kerrybhoy06 on Apr 24, 2019 19:40:29 GMT
Participation is key at all underage levels but becomes even more important as you get closer to senior level- due to that being the main time of drop off. More games for more players makes complete sense. For the last few years- east kerry have made a farce of the minor championship with rathmore & kilcummin going back in with them even when they were senior themselves. Across such a large geographical area and some big clubs- you had 15 players getting minor championship experience- it was ludicrous. Its common enough in the minor hurling championship to see two clubs joining up to put a team together if they dont themselves have the numbers. I understand that but the clubs I mentioned joined up with the rest of east kerry making it an unbeatable team
|
|