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Post by frankgalvintralee on Jan 7, 2019 21:03:59 GMT
Beaufort
Dr. Crokes B
John Mitchel's
Glenbeigh- Glencar
Desmonds
Piarsaigh na Dromoda
Brosna
Ardfert
Annascaul
Kenmare Shamrocks
Ballymacelligot
Glenflesk
Winners Kenmare Shamrocks joined in promotion by John Mitchel's & Ardfert
Relegation Glenflesk, Brosna, Piarsaigh na Dromoda
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Post by Premier on Jan 8, 2019 9:42:16 GMT
Kenmare, Glenflesk and Glenbeigh to go up.
Annuscaul, Ardfert and Brosna to go down
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 8, 2019 19:46:27 GMT
Cant see Ardfert going down with Wallace at the helm. He's a top class manager, all things considered
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Post by theumpire on Jan 9, 2019 1:56:11 GMT
Cant see Ardfert going down with Wallace at the helm. He's a top class manager, all things considered Class and Stephen Wallace don't really go together in the one sentence |
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Post by buck02 on Mar 10, 2019 11:59:41 GMT
Beaufort, Mitchels and Glenflesk to go up.
Brosna, Ballymac and Annascaul to go down.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Mar 10, 2019 22:55:59 GMT
I see Dr. Crokes B conceded their opening game to Beaufort. Any valid explanation for this? Why not seek a postponement instead?
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 11, 2019 19:50:47 GMT
I see Dr. Crokes B conceded their opening game to Beaufort. Any valid explanation for this? Why not seek a postponement instead? The number one reason why B team shouldn't be left into the senior league. This could have a bearing in the end as those two points Beaufort got could be the difference between another team going up and down |
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Post by ballhopper34 on Mar 11, 2019 20:04:05 GMT
I see Dr. Crokes B conceded their opening game to Beaufort. Any valid explanation for this? Why not seek a postponement instead? The number one reason why B team shouldn't be left into the senior league. This would have a bearing in the end as those two points Beaufort got could be the difference between another team going up and down Can't agree with you on this...as Dr. Crokes now have a C team in Div 5A, you prefer to 35-40 players have no league football at all? Keep all B and C teams in Div 3 or lower might be a better solution. If the B team get a top 3 finish, the fourth team gets promoted instead...which would open another can of worms, in that should games against said B team count toward promotion/relegation? |
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 11, 2019 20:14:15 GMT
The number one reason why B team shouldn't be left into the senior league. This would have a bearing in the end as those two points Beaufort got could be the difference between another team going up and down Can't agree with you on this...as Dr. Crokes now have a C team in Div 5A, you prefer to 35-40 players have no league football at all? Keep all B and C teams in Div 3 or lower might be a better solution. If the B team get a top 3 finish, the fourth team gets promoted instead...which would open another can of worms, in that should games against said B team count toward promotion/relegation? There's a B county league along with championships etc |
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Post by southward on Mar 11, 2019 21:27:57 GMT
The number one reason why B team shouldn't be left into the senior league. This would have a bearing in the end as those two points Beaufort got could be the difference between another team going up and down Keep all B and C teams in Div 3 or lower might be a better solution. If the B team get a top 3 finish, the fourth team gets promoted instead...which would open another can of worms, in that should games against said B team count toward promotion/relegation? So why didn't they put out a team then? Anyone know? Nothing on their website about it. |
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Post by defullback10 on Mar 13, 2019 11:12:42 GMT
Ive been told that they got agreement to postpone the game with Beaufort but the county board blocked it, while approving the Div 1 game to be moved. In fairness, there are quite a few guys who would be playing with the Crokes B team who have realistic chances of playing some part in the Club Final.
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Post by ponyexpress on Mar 13, 2019 18:03:50 GMT
Surely if crokes have a team in division 2, they should be able to field a team separate to the a team, maybe a bit too much croosover with players playing with both teams which on a given weekend, which I have witnessed in the past, maybe they shouldn't have put in a c team, if another team failed to field a team I believe they would be severely punished
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 13, 2019 19:16:35 GMT
Surely if crokes have a team in division 2, they should be able to field a team separate to the a team, maybe a bit too much croosover with players playing with both teams which on a given weekend, which I have witnessed in the past, maybe they shouldn't have put in a c team, if another team failed to field a team I believe they would be severely punished If teams are going to keep up with this idea of b teams in the senior league then walkovers have to be dealt with severely. First with fines and after that just trow teams out. At the very least the team who get the walkover shouldn't be given ay points for it |
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Post by ballhopper34 on Mar 13, 2019 19:32:02 GMT
A possible explanation may be in that as the A team did not field due to a postponement, the club did not provide the list of players ineligible for the B team. Dr. Crokes failed to do this as their opening game was rightly granted a postponement in view of the upcoming All-Ireland Club final.
The rules can be found in the Eolaire, but this website has failed to post the said document since the 2017 version.
FYI, the 2017 Eolaire has the following on Eligibilty in the County League:
1. “First 15” as passed by relevant Divisional Committee and approved by County C.C.C.
2. Monitoring of “First 15” lists will be ongoing in light of transfers, injuries, emigration, and Summer Visas.
Another interesting point is the first tie-breaker if teams finish level in a relegation battle...the team with more fixtures fulfilled will get the nod before any play-off game is deemed necessary.
Anyone with a further update?
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 15, 2019 9:54:22 GMT
A possible explanation may be in that as the A team did not field due to a postponement, the club did not provide the list of players ineligible for the B team. Dr. Crokes failed to do this as their opening game was rightly granted a postponement in view of the upcoming All-Ireland Club final.The rules can be found in the Eolaire, but this website has failed to post the said document since the 2017 version. FYI, the 2017 Eolaire has the following on Eligibilty in the County League: 1. “First 15” as passed by relevant Divisional Committee and approved by County C.C.C. 2. Monitoring of “First 15” lists will be ongoing in light of transfers, injuries, emigration, and Summer Visas. Another interesting point is the first tie-breaker if teams finish level in a relegation battle...the team with more fixtures fulfilled will get the nod before any play-off game is deemed necessary. Anyone with a further update? Was it? The likes of Ballyduff etc all had to play last weekend without anyone who were playing with the hurlers. Also is there not a cut off date for when teams have to send it said list? Would that not have passed at this stage? |
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Post by ballhopper34 on Mar 15, 2019 17:23:28 GMT
A possible explanation may be in that as the A team did not field due to a postponement, the club did not provide the list of players ineligible for the B team. Dr. Crokes failed to do this as their opening game was rightly granted a postponement in view of the upcoming All-Ireland Club final.The rules can be found in the Eolaire, but this website has failed to post the said document since the 2017 version. FYI, the 2017 Eolaire has the following on Eligibilty in the County League: 1. “First 15” as passed by relevant Divisional Committee and approved by County C.C.C. 2. Monitoring of “First 15” lists will be ongoing in light of transfers, injuries, emigration, and Summer Visas. Another interesting point is the first tie-breaker if teams finish level in a relegation battle...the team with more fixtures fulfilled will get the nod before any play-off game is deemed necessary. Anyone with a further update? Was it? The likes of Ballyduff etc all had to play last weekend without anyone who were playing with the hurlers. Also is there not a cut off date for when teams have to send it said list? Would that not have passed at this stage? I don't know for sure, but it would have been very bad form if Dr. Crokes were not granted a postponement one week before an All-Ireland club final. Said list is run off starting 15's, hard to do if A team hasn't played a single game. B team should also requested/got a postponement. Where is poster nacrocaigh to give the club story on this? Did Ballyduff request a postponement? |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 15, 2019 19:01:00 GMT
Crokes B aren't in the All Ireland final.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Mar 15, 2019 19:55:13 GMT
Crokes B aren't in the All Ireland final. Technically, the subs bench at the start of the All-Ireland Club Final on Sunday v Corofin can line out for the B team on Sunday week in the County League Div 2 game v John Mitchels. Not true...see below. Correction: Technically, any Dr. Crokes player on Sunday in the All-Ireland Club Final on Sunday v Corofin can line out for the B team on Sunday week in the County League Div 2 game v John Mitchels, as no player has yet played in Division 1. Messy affair all round...might be a problem later on if Dr. Crokes B are in a relegation battle. Needs to be cleared up sooner rather than later. |
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Post by ballhopper34 on Mar 15, 2019 20:02:55 GMT
Just to add more to it, Dr. Crokes Div 1 game on 24 March is at home v Kerins O'Rahilly's at 3pm, while Dr. Crokes Div 2 game v John Mitchels is set for the same venue at the same time, per the fixtures on this website.
Hard to believe...
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Post by yellowbelly on Mar 15, 2019 21:58:15 GMT
What I gather happened is the Crokes were having a final game A vs B last Sunday, one week before their All Ireland Final.
The A team game against Rathmore was postponed by agreement between the clubs. There was a similar arrangement made with Beaufort and the game to be played mid May but the CCC refused permission for the game to be deferred and awarded the points to Beaufort, who I gather are refusing them.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 15, 2019 22:27:39 GMT
What I gather happened is the Crokes were having a final game A vs B last Sunday, one week before their All Ireland Final. The A team game against Rathmore was postponed by agreement between the clubs. There was a similar arrangement made with Beaufort and the game to be played mid May but the CCC refused permission for the game to be deferred and awarded the points to Beaufort, who I gather are refusing them. I was thinking it might have been the A team playing the B team in training alright. However, wouldn't playing a real game v local rivals Rathmore have been better preparation for Corofin! |
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Post by ballhopper34 on Mar 16, 2019 22:02:10 GMT
What I gather happened is the Crokes were having a final game A vs B last Sunday, one week before their All Ireland Final. The A team game against Rathmore was postponed by agreement between the clubs. There was a similar arrangement made with Beaufort and the game to be played mid May but the CCC refused permission for the game to be deferred and awarded the points to Beaufort, who I gather are refusing them. I was thinking it might have been the A team playing the B team in training alright. However, wouldn't playing a real game v local rivals Rathmore have been better preparation for Corofin!Will answer that on Sunday night for you. Hindsight in advance... |
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Post by glengael on Mar 26, 2019 9:26:38 GMT
Results from the weekend
Kenmare Shamrocks 1-7 v 1-11 Beaufort
Ardfert 1-12 v 2-12 Annascaul
Dromid Pearses 1-22 v 1-11 Brosna
Glenbeigh-Glencar1-11 v 0-10 Ballymacelligott
Glenflesk 4-13 v 1-12 Desmonds
Dr Crokes 1-14 v 2-16 John Mitchels
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Post by keepitsimple on Mar 26, 2019 13:36:28 GMT
I watched Glenflesk defeat Desmonds rather easily. Glenflesk pretty average but opened up the Castleisland side at will and could have won by more. Could be a tough season for Desmonds - they were without the injured Thomas Hickey and have very little upfront without him. They could struggle to retain their Division 2 status going by this performance anyway.
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Post by goonised on Mar 26, 2019 16:35:04 GMT
Any account of crokes B the weekend
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Post by greenmen55 on Mar 26, 2019 18:31:55 GMT
Ardfert losing to Annascaul at home is surprising especially as they see their home field as a fortress.. Were they missing a few or are they struggling at the moment does anybody know?
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Post by richard00 on Mar 26, 2019 21:57:00 GMT
Ardfert losing to Annascaul at home is surprising especially as they see their home field as a fortress.. Were they missing a few or are they struggling at the moment does anybody know? Damien Wallace and John Egan have both retired and there hurlers are only back with them with a week or two |
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Post by greenmen55 on Mar 26, 2019 22:46:46 GMT
Ardfert losing to Annascaul at home is surprising especially as they see their home field as a fortress.. Were they missing a few or are they struggling at the moment does anybody know? Damien Wallace and John Egan have both retired and there hurlers are only back with them with a week or two Ah right that makes sense thanks for clarifying that. Egan and Wallace will be two big losses to the side. |
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Post by ballhopper34 on May 3, 2019 1:08:24 GMT
So Beaufort play Dr. Crokes B in Beaufort tonight (3 May).
Edit: Final Score: Dr. Crokes 3-6 Beaufort 1-11 (half time 2-3 to 0-5).
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Post by shaggy04 on May 6, 2019 10:22:22 GMT
So Beaufort play Dr. Crokes B in Beaufort tonight (3 May). Edit: Final Score: Dr. Crokes 3-6 Beaufort 1-11 (half time 2-3 to 0-5). When and who made the decision to replay this game,and was it just because it was 'crokes' Beaufort gone from top of the table to mid table now! |
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