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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 17, 2022 8:55:50 GMT
Can I ask why Leinster GAA has no problem admitting Kerry, as they did with Antrim, but still refuses to allow Galway underage teams to compete. Is it simply we are not a big threat but Galway are? There is an argument for Galway, Ulster counties and Kerry competing in a separate championship before the All-Ireland stage at minor and U20 level. Galway probably wouldn't be for that however. Realistically Galway would prob be better off playing A v B matches than enter into that competition. And the other counties would just get a hammering |
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Post by mossie on Dec 18, 2022 22:06:53 GMT
Kerry played in the Leinster Minor B in the late 1980s, the prize for the winners was a trophy and a place in the Leinster Minor A QF against one of the big guns Kerry did very well in it, some good Kerry senior players came out of them teams like Tony Maunsell Abbeydorney, Brendan O Mahony Crotta O Neills, JP Hickey Crotta O'Neills, Nicholas Roche Ballyheigue who were members of the Kerry senior hurling team that beat Waterford in the Munster senior hurling championship in 1992. Kerry won the B title in 1987, captain was Anthony Gleeson former Kerry senior footballer. He won a minor hurling championship in 1986 with Austin Stacks and was captain of the minor hurlers in 1987 as a result as a dual inter county minor. fine hurler but didnt play after minor Anthony Gleeson must have been one of the unluckiest footballers in Kerry. He always just seemed to miss out on teams that won titles. was it injury or Paidi not fancying him that saw him miss out on 1997? |
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Post by mossie on Dec 18, 2022 22:14:11 GMT
Imo traditional hurling counties don't want anyone else upsetting them. Everything is done to suit them over the years. How many times was the Div 1 format changed to suit them if one got relegated? Antrim have flat out refused to play relegation play offs in the past. They were also just put into the Joe McDonagh cup when it first started. In recent times it's been all about how terrible it is to see Offaly dropping down and how "hurling needs a strong" Offaly. While Offaly had a good minor hurling team last year they will never ever get back to their previous all Ireland winning heights. Never. That was a once in a lifetime team with loads of extremely talented brothers etc. Even this year Naas beat the Offaly senior champions by 12pts in first round of the Leinster SHC club. Kildare will overtake Offaly of that I have no doubt. Westmeath already have overtaken them. Offaly are going the right direction in hurling and football at underage leinster minor hurling title in 2022 and all ireland under 20 football in 2021 probably wont be winning senior all irelands anytime soon but expect them to get better and better, Michael Duignan as county board chairman has structures put in place and finance through Shane Lowry |
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Post by hurlingman on Dec 19, 2022 9:02:40 GMT
Anthony Gleeson must have been one of the unluckiest footballers in Kerry. He always just seemed to miss out on teams that won titles. was it injury or Paidi not fancying him that saw him miss out on 1997? I think he played some part in 96. But I suppose at that point a lot where coming off the U21 teams and would have been hsrd to get back into the panel. Is he the last Mitchels player to play in the championship? |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 26, 2022 0:58:34 GMT
This is a rare wan, and no I don't have an IT sub - I was told that Ger Hegarty (no relation) used to down pints in Mona's in Lisselton when he holidayed in Ballybunion. Maybe that is why Gearoid, still no relation, is so successful? As auld John B would say, he sure is the two ends of a hoor, a 6'3" hoor, now from Ballybunion to Ballysimon that's a hoor any day of the week, and what a long streak of misery if you have to contend with him - Gearoidy, Clifford and Paul O'Connell would make for interesting wrestling - let the 3 of 'em at it, Box Office stuff, with or on your shield, The JP McManus Invitational Wrestling Match - will I be invited?
Ballyfireside Quote of xMas Day ala Gearoid - I am only getting in before before they get me
Limerick fathers and sons: ‘I said it to you Ger, years ago. The boys will win it for us’
On the Limerick team are five sons of former players, more than any other All-Ireland winning team in history
The day of the 1980 All-Ireland is a pure haze. It’s an awful thing to lose an All-Ireland. It would nearly affect you for 12 months. It would nearly be a class of an effort to play club matches. You know, you wouldn’t like meeting people. You’d be inclined to keep to yourself. I’d be telling Seamus here. He doesn’t know what it is to lose an All-Ireland.
For Limerick’s championship matches the Mams and Dads sit within sight of each other, close enough to see a reflection of the match in every face. They all know now that winning takes care of everything, except the wishing and the worrying. That continues, come what may.
Ger Hegarty says that Mike Nash “pucks every ball, every single ball” and sitting across the table on a perishing evening in Limerick, Nash enters no plea in response to the charge. On match days, Nash and Aaron Gillane’s Dad, Damien, have contrived a piseog, a small placebo for their rattling nerves. “I have to see him,” says Nash, “and he has to see me.”
Brian Finn says the nerves are “getting worse. Worse. I don’t want them to lose, you see. They’re going to lose some time. The fear of losing now is a big factor. I don’t know do the players feel it. I don’t think they do.”
Between the generations, though, is a canyon in their experience. Only their dreams were the same.
“The one thing they haven’t experienced, and never will, is the hunger we had as supporters,” says Finn. “To be waiting 45 years [for an All-Ireland] is something that shouldn’t have been. They don’t realise what that was like. I don’t think they ever will. You couldn’t. You couldn’t realise it until you’ve lived through all that misery and heartbreak.”
I’d be in the upper side of Feohanagh. Tommy Quaid would have been on the Newcastle side of the parish, a couple of miles away. We were friends all our lives.
Tommy used to give me hurleys. He was a real professional and I was nearly the opposite. Tommy could have five or six hurleys going into any match, and one of them could be as nice as the next. You’d say, ‘How could he come by such nice hurleys?’ But, of course, he’d pick them and do a bit of lightening to them and have them well taped, and he’d have grips, and every whole thing. Other fellas would have two hurleys, but that would be about it.
Tommy started off in goals, because I’ll tell you why. He was quite small when he was young and at that particular time the small man was put into goals so that he wouldn’t get injured. He slept hurling. It was his first love.
We lost more than we ever won. Jesus, we lost a lot of finals together. Minors and Under-21s. We’d be coming home and we might call for a few drinks in Newcastle. Tommy never drank or smoked and then we’d pass his house, and wouldn’t Tommy be out with his hurley. He’d be outside hurling away, and like, it was the furthest thought from our minds – only to come home and drown our sorrows. He was a different breed.
And then one day they brought Tommy out of goal. We were playing a west [Limerick] junior final against Feenagh – 1980 or 81 - and after two draws the selectors came to the decision, if we don’t do something we won’t win this match. I’ll always remember the day. I was playing full-forward inside and Tom Quaid was playing centre field, and he was like a horse that had been inside in a stable and being fed oats. He was unmarkable.
This is how it started. Finn made his championship debut as an emergency centre fielder against Waterford in 1985, and was left out when Cork riddled them in the Munster semi-final; Ger Hegarty started at centre back against Clare in 1986 and was replaced after 28 minutes, innocent of their second half collapse; Mike Nash was fired into centrefield against Kerry in 1989 and floundered, miles from his natural habitat.
“I got the curly finger after about 20 minutes,” he says. “We were losing. That was me gone for four years.”
Ger Hegarty, Brian Finn and Mike Nash pictured at the Woodfield House Hotel, Limerick. Photograph: Brian Arthur
Around that time, though, it was easy to make a case for Limerick, if you had a mind to do so. Hegarty’s team had won a minor All-Ireland in 1984 and an Under-21 title three years later; the seniors had won back-to-back National Leagues in 1984 and ‘85. “At the start of every year,” says Hegarty, “I always thought we had a chance.”
In those days losing in the championship was compounded by months of anguished reflection. No backdoor, no round-robin. A shot at redemption was a year away. In that environment, wounding defeats often became infected. Between 1985 and 1993, Limerick won just seven championship matches, two of them against Kerry; this year, their sons won six championship matches in three months.
“I don’t think the modern players get the pressure of knockout championship matches in May,” says Hegarty. “I remember we got beaten by Clare in Ennis in 86. My club was out two weeks later and we got beaten in that as well. That was it. Gone.”
Back then, the championship was more stratified than it is now. Whether you won most of the time, or lost most of the time, the system was sympathetic to the status quo. Limerick were in the squeezed middle class, sometimes living beyond their means.
“I think when we played Tipp in my time we always had a chance – in my head anyway,” says Hegarty. “Cork was the team that used to get inside my head. Cork had this grip on Limerick. The sight of the red jersey just killed us off.”
In reality, their record against Tipp was appalling too: between 1988 and 1991 they lost to them in four consecutive championship matches, by an aggregate of 40 points.
“Look, the late 80s were bleak,” says Hegarty. “You had two or three very dominant clubs in Limerick and I think at that stage a lot of fellas said, ‘Do you know what? Limerick aren’t doing much’ – and they concentrated on their clubs. They were bleak years.”
Hegarty still thinks about a draw against Cork in 1987, when they led in stoppage time and had the game at their mercy. Hegarty was certain he had been fouled in the middle of the field, and was bewildered when the free was given the other way. Then a snooker ball was thrown from the crowd and the game was stopped while the Limerick manager Eamon Cregan brought the incident to the referee’s attention. It might be the only recorded incursion of a snooker ball in a hurling match, ever. More time was added. With the last puck Kieran Kingston struck an equaliser for Cork.
“If we had got to the Munster final we were coming up against a young Tipperary team, who were also trying to make a breakthrough,” says Hegarty. “Who knows what would have happened? Cork destroyed us in the replay.”
“A lot of hard luck stories,” says Nash.
“A lot of hard luck stories,” says Hegarty.
My first year was 1980. I was 24 or 25. Feohanagh were only a junior club at that stage. Sure, you wouldn’t be in the limelight, and maybe not good enough either. My hurling would be very, very limited. I suppose I’d be a good worker alright, but that would be about it.
In 1980 we played Cork in the League final. It went to a replay and Cork won well the second day. We met them again in the Munster final, and after I not playing that great in the League final, there was big pressure to perform. I got sick going to the match. I suppose it was the tension.
We won and I’d say I played well enough. I didn’t score, but I hurled quite well. I remember at one stage ploughing into Martin Doherty when he was coming out with a ball. I wouldn’t be one now, say, to shirk a challenge. Well, he gave me a belt. I don’t think I ever got a belt like it. I thought my jaw was broke. I suppose his shoulder met my face. Oh, he was a strong man.
For the All-Ireland we stayed outside in the Green Isle Hotel. I’m living here in a class of a cul de sac [in the countryside] and I wouldn’t hear a car from one end of the week to another. Between the traffic and the tension I didn’t sleep a wink. There was maybe seven or eight of that team had never played in Croke Park before. It was my first time. Limerick were only beaten by three points but Galway were the better team all through. That’s as near as we got.
Can’t forget
“It’s Johnny Dooley who’s going to take it. Will he go for a point? I think he’s been instructed to do so ... He’s going for a goal! And he’s got it!!” – Ger Canning, RTE commentary, 1994 All Ireland hurling final.
Twenty eight years later the scene is still preserved for forensics. No new evidence has emerged. The case has never been closed. They can’t forget. Shrapnel from the blast is lodged in all of them. Embedded for life.
Everything about it is stunning, still. With 64 minutes and 29 seconds on the clock Limerick led the All-Ireland final by five points; when the final whistle blew five minutes and 45 seconds later they had been wiped out: 2-5 without reply.
Look at the replay from the RTE camera hanging on the frame of the goal: for Dooley’s free Mike Nash is the only Limerick defender standing on the goal line. The other five have stepped forward: two paces, three paces, trying to stand square to the angle of Dooley’s shot.
“That was eagerness,” says Nash. “Everyone wanted to stop the ball. Joe Quaid moved out, Ciaran [Carey] moved out. They’re super players, like, super ball stoppers.”
Forty seconds later, Offaly got their second goal. Limerick were still taking a standing count when the haymaker landed.
“It was just a sequence of events,” says Hegarty. “We were in complete control. OK, the [first] goal went in. Joe pucked the ball out to me. I would call for that ball today, tomorrow, next week, the week after, if it was the same circumstances. And every single day Joe would lob that ball down on top of my sconce.
The Offaly bench celebrate at the final whistle of the 1994 final. Photograph: Billy Stickland/Inpho
“It slipped through my paw. A great challenge from Michael Duignan. Great challenge. Just got up and ruffled me. Broke the ball away. Before the ball hit the ground it was gone. The next thing I knew the ball was in the back of the net. It was just one of those things. You’ve got to live with it.”
The ball landed beyond the Limerick full-back line, flush into Pat O’Connor’s stride; he met it on the first bounce. O’Connor was Nash’s man.
“We were still shocked after the ball going in [from the free],” says Nash. “We weren’t guarded. Next thing the ball is ...”
“Maybe I called for the ball too quickly as well,” says Hegarty.
“Ah everyone was anxious to go back down the field and score the goal,” says Nash. “That’s what it was about.”
In the time that remained, Quaid landed two more puck-outs on Hegarty; he won them both. On the Limerick team, nobody had a hand like his.
They regrouped, and for a few years in the mid-90s Limerick were serious contenders. They believed Tom Ryan ran a good ship. They adored Dave Mahedy, the team trainer. “Dave was incredibly professional,” says Hegarty. “Dave introduced a level of professionalism that every county embraced afterwards. We had it first in Limerick.”
Nonetheless, nothing was smooth. “There was always aggro,” says Finn.
“There was always some controversy,” says Nash. “You’d come into training and there’d be something – nothing at all to do with us, and nothing at all to do with hurling. You’d get sick of it. They just wanted to get rid of Tom [Ryan]. In 1997, when we won the League, the final was played in October. That was Tom’s last game and it was my last game too.”
Finn had retired before Limerick reached the 1996 All-Ireland final; Hegarty had been slaughtered by a knee injury and wasn’t on the panel either; at 32, Nash was the oldest man on the team. Wexford were reduced to 14 men before half-time. Limerick still lost.
“People will say that ‘96 was a worse defeat than ‘94,” says Finn. “A Wexford team that came from absolutely nowhere and went absolutely nowhere afterwards. With all the second half, with an extra man, and maybe the wind at your back. Couldn’t take them down. People will say that was nearly worse.”
And yet, 1994 is inescapable. Whatever happened afterwards in their lives, a small part of them is frozen there.
“About seven minutes into injury time in the All-Ireland in 2018, I was thinking about it,” says Finn, as Limerick’s eight point lead had dissolved to just one point. “Even in the Cork final two years later – 12 points up with five minutes to go – it was on my mind. You just don’t forget those things.”
When Tommy won his All-Star [in 1992] the people of Feohanagh organised a night below in Castlmahon for him. There was sods of turf lit here at the top of the cross and there was a band playing, down into Liston’s Lounge below. The place was packed. He had hurled 16 years with Limerick at that stage and there was years he probably should have got an All-Star. When he eventually got it I suppose there was euphoria. That’s what the people of the parish thought of Tom Quaid. He was down to earth. Sincere. The exact same as Nickie now.
He finished the last few years playing with Effin. People didn’t begrudge him going because he was working and living over in that side of the county. He had given 20 plus years of outstanding service here. When he went to Effin our paths weren’t crossing as much, but we were always on the phone. We went back a long way.
The accident was a desperate, desperate shock. He was doing some bit of fabrication on the Credit Union in Charleville when he fell. It was an horrific accident. Myself and my wife Ann okayed it with the family to go up and see him. He was above in hospital in Cork. He was unconscious. There was only piles of tears.
It was one of the biggest funerals I ever saw in my life. Tom is buried over in Effin. There’s a fine big head stone, with hurleys drawn out on it. I’d know well because I was often at the grave.
Fast track
For the golden generation, not everything happened at the same pace. Some of them were on a fast track: Cian Lynch first, Sean Finn not a million miles behind. Others took their time; delayed, or diverted. When Limerick won the Under-21 All-Ireland in 2017, Seamus Flanagan was only a sub; a year later, he started the senior final. Gearoid Hegarty made the Under-21 team in 2017, but not the year before, and as a minor he had spent two years on the Limerick panel without playing a minute in the championship. Around that time, he reached a crossroads.
“Gearoid fell away from the game, to be honest,” says Hegarty. “He was going playing football. I always saw plenty of hurling ability in him, but it looked like he was slipping away from the game. He built a connection with John Bruder, a former Limerick football manager, and he introduced him to the training that’s required to make the step up to inter county level. And that was the beginning of the transformation. Then along came John Kiely and he built a connection with him. He emerged as a 21 year old, which is late enough.”
“He didn’t emerge,” says Nash, “he was there all along. And I told you that. And we said it below in Castletroy. He should have been on those minor teams. He was a big gangly young fellah, but he could flick the ball from there into his hand and he could do what he liked with it. This fellah [Ger] started telling me that he was only a footballer. ‘* you and your footballer,’ I said to him. ‘You know nothing about hurling if you think he’s a footballer.’”
“He arrived anyway,” says Hegarty. “Better late than never. A group of them came together. Like-minded. All hungry. Good attitude. Limerick always had great players. The difference between the current squad and us is that they have the full complement. They have 20 or 25 very hungry guys.”
Brian Finn gave years to the Limerick academy as a coach. He could see what was coming too. In Kiely’s first year they lost both of their championship matches, but they rattled Kilkenny in Nowlan Park in the qualifiers, and they could see the germ of something.
“They were very young,” says Finn. “I remember Sean getting a shoulder-stroke-arse off Walter Walsh in that match and it nearly killed him. You sort of knew you had something going forward. But then, you have to do it when you get the chance. Once they got it done the first time [in 2018] all the baggage was gone and they could express themselves. Nothing will beat that, no matter what they do. Even if they win five-in-a-row – please God they will – nothing will take from that game.
“I thanked Graeme Mulcahy at the medals presentation the other night for the wonderful point he got in injury time in 2018, when the tide was absolutely rushing against us. You’d thank fellas for the rest of your life for what they’ve done.”
They don’t see any let-up. Nobody has broken ranks to go travelling. Nobody seems satisfied. “I will always remember,” says Hegarty, “Gearoid had a few of the lads over for a few beers after the 2018 All-Ireland. The house was on a high. I remember saying to Sean [Finn] – these are the words I used – ‘Is there another one in ye?’ And Sean turned to me and said, ‘Only one?’”
Nash, Finn and Hegarty all played with John Kiely in the early 90s. He didn’t make the match day panel for the 1994 All-Ireland final; two years later he wore number 24. In the following winter he was cut from the squad. Back then, how could anybody have guessed what he would become?
“Absolutely not,” says Hegarty. “Absolutely not. I would have said there were six or seven fellas miles ahead of John [as potential managers]. But, do you know what, the cream has come to the top.”
“He used to travel to training with TJ [Ryan], Frankie [Carroll] and The Jap [JP Ryan],” says Nash. “They were always skittin’ and messin’.”
“The players can still have a bit of fun with him,” says Finn. “They’ll throw him in the water or throw him into a bouncy castle and this and that. But anybody who steps out of line knows about it – and has known about it.”
“There’s an undercurrent there,” says Hegarty. “If you’re not performing there’s someone there to take your place. Back in our day, it was nearly impossible to get taken off. John Kiely and Paul Kinnerk have taken off fellas with multiple All-Stars. And it’s accepted. John’s attitude is, ‘If it’s not your day, next man in.’”
On their march, new summits come and go. This year, they became the first Limerick team to beat Tipperary in four consecutive championship matches. To the Limerick hurling tribe, stuff like that matters. In the history of the game, only Cork and Kilkenny have won four All-Irelands in a row. That is on their minds now. The only thing on their minds.
“We probably don’t give them half the credit they deserve,” says Finn. “Seriously. You go home and see their gear bag thrown around the place and you say, ‘What the * is going on here?’”
“They don’t look for credit,” says Hegarty. *
“I never thought, in my wildest dreams,” says John Flanagan, “that I’d see an All-Ireland coming in here, to this house.”
All they lost, in dead matches long ago, has no life now.
“I said it to you Ger, years ago,” says Nash. “‘The boys will win it for us.’”
Dads and their lads
Tommy Quaid (1976-1993)
39 SHC appearances. 2 Munster championships
Nickie Quaid (2010 – 2022)
55 SHC appearances. 4 All-Irelands, 5 Munster championships
Brian Finn (1985 – 1994)
13 SHC appearances. 1 Munster championship
Sean Finn (2017 – 2022)
32 SHC appearances. 4 All Irelands, 4 Munster championships.
Mike Nash (1989 – 1997)
15 SHC appearances. 2 Munster championships
Barry Nash (2016 – 2022)
27 SHC appearances. 4 All Irelands, 4 Munster championships
Ger Hegarty (1986-1998)
19 SHC appearances. 1 Munster championship
Gearoid Hegarty (2016-2022)
33 SHC appearances. 4 All-Irelands, 4 Munster championships
John Flanagan (1980-1984)
12 SHC appearances. 2 Munster championships
Seamus Flanagan (2018-2022)
26 SHC appearances. 4 All-Irelands, 4 Munster championships
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 5, 2023 20:58:55 GMT
Lost out 2-30 to 2-17 yo Cork tonight. Not a bad result as it was 1'16 to 0-07 at half time.
Interesting to see Mikey Boyle at full back.
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Post by mossie on Jan 5, 2023 21:15:48 GMT
Lost out 2-30 to 2-17 yo Cork tonight. Not a bad result as it was 1'16 to 0-07 at half time. Interesting to see Mikey Boyle at full back. big surprise Mikey at full back! never saw that coming. He was one of our best players. worrying that he went off with an injury at the end Kerry competed pretty well but we desperately lack big men in the forwards, too many light forwards I am not sure how this can be resolved, it looks like bigger men like the Leary's, John Mark Foley, Barry Sullivan are either injured, not interested, not available and after that I cant think of other options other than push Mackessy into the forwards or bring Mikey up there again |
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 6, 2023 11:40:29 GMT
Lost out 2-30 to 2-17 yo Cork tonight. Not a bad result as it was 1'16 to 0-07 at half time. Interesting to see Mikey Boyle at full back. big surprise Mikey at full back! never saw that coming. He was one of our best players. worrying that he went off with an injury at the end Kerry competed pretty well but we desperately lack big men in the forwards, too many light forwards I am not sure how this can be resolved, it looks like bigger men like the Leary's, John Mark Foley, Barry Sullivan are either injured, not interested, not available and after that I cant think of other options other than push Mackessy into the forwards or bring Mikey up there again It's interesting with Mikey Boyle. Normally as fellas get older they move further up the pitch while he's going in the other way and moving backwards. |
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Post by givehimaball on Jan 8, 2023 13:07:55 GMT
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Post by kerryexile5 on Jan 8, 2023 19:59:15 GMT
Offaly have 11 Laois have 9 Kildare have 4 Westmeath 4 Carlow 4 Sligo 2 Kerry 1 Louth 1 Do North Kerry lads not attend third level as much as they do a trade or farming? 1 player on a panel seems a very poor return. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 8, 2023 20:18:11 GMT
Offaly have 11 Laois have 9 Kildare have 4 Westmeath 4 Carlow 4 Sligo 2 Kerry 1 Louth 1 Do North Kerry lads not attend third level as much as they do a trade or farming? 1 player on a panel seems a very poor return. Probably because they go to third levels in Cork and Limerick where the standard might be particularly high. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 9, 2023 10:44:51 GMT
Offaly have 11 Laois have 9 Kildare have 4 Westmeath 4 Carlow 4 Sligo 2 Kerry 1 Louth 1 Do North Kerry lads not attend third level as much as they do a trade or farming? 1 player on a panel seems a very poor return. In recent times it's the opposite. I think it was last years Leaving Cert in Causeway all of them went on to some sort of further education. A few years ago there was a lot of lads on Fitzgibbon panels. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 9, 2023 20:16:54 GMT
Munster Hurling League game between Limerick and Kerry, which was set for Rathkeale next week, has been moved to Austin Stack Park in Tralee, next Tuesday January 17th. Throw-in 7pm.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 10, 2023 20:30:55 GMT
Munster Hurling League game between Limerick and Kerry, which was set for Rathkeale next week, has been moved to Austin Stack Park in Tralee, next Tuesday January 17th. Throw-in 7pm. Why though? There would be a decent Limerick crowd going if it was in Rathkeale. All the local businesses here were gearing up for it. There won't be a huge Kerry crowd on a Tuesday at 7pm. There won't be a big Limerick crowd either on a school night. Factor in traffic in Adare and Newcastle West and Abbeyfeale to get to Austin Stack Park on time and many will have to leave work early. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 15, 2023 21:26:07 GMT
So Limerick lost to Cork today and are now out. So I wonder if Kerry will be playing them now?
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 15, 2023 23:11:51 GMT
So Limerick lost to Cork today and are now out. So I wonder if Kerry will be playing them now? Bit of handy training for both Kerry and Limerick. The result of the Limerick and Cork game was never in doubt here in Ballingarry. Even selectors were saying it's just a practice match and probably a bit of a hindrance so shortly before the league. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 16, 2023 18:37:38 GMT
So Limerick lost to Cork today and are now out. So I wonder if Kerry will be playing them now? Bit of handy training for both Kerry and Limerick. The result of the Limerick and Cork game was never in doubt here in Ballingarry. Even selectors were saying it's just a practice match and probably a bit of a hindrance so shortly before the league. Game now moved to Sunday. |
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Post by mossie on Jan 22, 2023 20:52:25 GMT
To be frank I was very disappointed in the kerry hurlers today or more to the point, the tactics their management sent them out with
A large crowd in Tralee and the crowd were bored out of their brains
Kerry surrendered early on and put several additional players in the backs often leaving the lone attacker in the kerry full forward line out numbered 4 to 1. Okay Kerry conceded no goal but NO kerry forward I repeat no Kerry forward scored from play from the 6 that started and those that came on. When is the last time no forward in an inter county hurling team scored from play? Kerry hadnt one single shot on the goalkeeper for a goal chance
Players in the middle third had no forward to hit ball to inside were reduced to passing to each other in the middle third, ending up losing possession and limerick just popped it over the bar. There was a farcical situation then where limerick number 23 Colin Coughlan was left unmarked in front of the stand in his own half back line area for a good 30 mins and he kept popping the ball over the bar from long range
Some positives I suppose - Mackessey was superb for Kerry @ midfield and got possibly the best point of the match, Eoin Ross got 2 good long range points, Keith Carmody looks like a good option for kerry and his return is a boost. Our forwards had no chance of making an impression such were our tactics but they look too light for a senior inter county team
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 4, 2023 12:54:15 GMT
Hurlers up and running this afternoon. Should get the win against Derry. Should be looking to get promoted this year. Have both Carlow and Offaly at home so should be taking advantage of this.
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Post by An Ciarraíoch Taistealaíoch on Feb 5, 2023 15:48:04 GMT
Hurlers up and running this afternoon. Should get the win against Derry. Should be looking to get promoted this year. Have both Carlow and Offaly at home so should be taking advantage of this. No one cares about hurling No one cares about trolls 🙄 |
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Post by mitchelsontour on Feb 5, 2023 17:17:54 GMT
m.independent.ie/regionals/kerryman/sport/gaa/kerry-hurlers-win-comfortably-away-to-derry-despite-fourth-minute-red-card-for-colin-walsh-42327809.htmlkerryman Michael Wilson February 04 2023 04:53 PM NATIONAL HURLING LEAGUE DIVISION 2A ROUND 1 Derry 0-14 Kerry 2-22 The Kerry hurlers have opened their National League Division 2A campaign with a 14-point win away to Derry with goals from Eoin Ross and sub Paudie O’Connor complementing 11 converted frees from Podge Boyle in a performance that will have greatly pleased manager Stephen Molumphy. The Kerry management and players will appreciate that they were up against a weak Derry squad that was missing 14 from the panel that secured league promotion last season, but this was still a polished and confident performance by Kerry who still had to be fully tuned for after making the long journey north to Celtic Park. New Derry boss Johnny McGarvey has had little over three weeks to rebuild and reshape the Derry team, and while that lack of preparation eventually told against a slick Kingdom outfit, Derry produced some lovely hurling and were within two points at 0-16 to 0-14 with 50 minutes played. However, a mistake from goalkeeper Eoin Mulholland, who lost the flight substitute Paudie O'Connor's long hopeful puck forward only to see it bounce past him and into the net, gifted Kerry their opening goal seconds later and from there Stephen Molumphy's men eased away to a somewhat flattering margin of victory. Despite Derry’s shortcomings Kerry always looked in charge with Daithi Griffin and Shane Conway superb throughout and Padraig Boyle deadly from frees as he converted 11 of 13 placed balls. The Kingdom always looked in charge but Molumphy won't have been fooled by the double score victory, there is plenty of room for improvement, even if they secured it playing most of the game with 14 men after Colin Walsh was sent off after just four minutes. With all the close season upheaval, Derry's league ambition has centred only on survival but it was an encouraging first half of hurling for new manager McGarvey. The hosts’ chances were helped by one of the season's earliest red cards, dished out on four minutes to Walsh for an off the ball incident missed by almost everyone inside Celtic Park. Antrim referee Colm McDonald was in no doubt though and an important link in the Kingdom's attack had to watch the vast majority of the game from the Celtic Park stand. The sending off arrived with Derry leading 0-2 to 0-1 in those early stages and while Kerry were the better team in the opening exchanges, those rumours about the demise of Derry hurling looked greatly exaggerated as the home side hounded and hassled Kerry with a work rate that had to be seen to be believed. Losing a man though didn't stop Kerry taking a grip of the game as they eventually turned around with a 0-13 to 0-8 lead though Derry probably should have been closer. The extra man saw Derry go short with most of their puck-outs as Kerry dropped off but when the Oak Leafers pushed men up on the Kerry back line they had more joy than they may have expected. Kerry's break was superb though and they claimed some lovely first half scores from Griffin, Daniel Collins and particularly Shane Conway, with James Friel’s free taking keeping Derry in touch. Six added first half minutes should have seen Derry close the gap but having wasted two frees, Kerry finished the stronger with two more Boyle frees ensuring a five point half time lead for the Kingdom. Kerry introduced Brandon Barrett and Kyle O'Connor at the break but the third quarter belonged to Derry despite a Boyle free getting Kerry up and running first. Two Cormac O'Doherty frees brought it back to 0-14 to 0-10 before a superb Eoin Ross score was cancelled out by a Meehaul McGrath point. Three Derry points in succession from Friel, O'Doherty and a lovely Richie Mullan effort had the game in the melting pot at 0-16 to 0-14 with Kerry looking anxiously over their shoulder. Points from Boyle and Griffin eased those worries but even at four points, the game was still there for either county. O'Connor's goal changed that. The former Kerry captain will never score an easier goal, Mullholland completely unsighted by the blinding low sun as the ball bounce three times before finding the net. It was hard on the young Derry goalkeeper who had been having a great game. Derry's momentum had been deflated and Kerry took full advantage, pushing for home in style by holding their hosts scoreless for the remainder of the game as they tagged on another 1-4, including a second goal courtesy of Eoin Ross. The Ballyduff man finished the chance but it owed everything to the sterling work of Fionan Mackessy who charged down Mulholland's clearance to present his team-mate with the easiest of chances. Kerry were fully deserving of the win and they should take on Carlow in Austin Stack Park next Sunday confident of making it back to back wins, even if the Leinster men will provide a much sterner test. DERRY: Eoin Mulholland, Sean Cassidy, Mark Craig, Ronan Mullan, Sean Francis Quinn, Richie Mullan 0-1, Meehaul McGrath 0-1, Corey O'Reilly 0-1, John Mullan 0-1, Cormac O'Doherty 0-4 (4f), Paul Cleary 0-1, Darragh McGilligan, James Friel 0-5 (5f), Padhraig Neilis, Reese McSorley. Subs: Cahal Quinn for S Cassidy (blood, 4-10); Calum O'Kane for R Mullan (ht); C Quinn for R McSorley (52); Cormac Gough for P Neilis (60); Aimon Duffin for P Cleary (66); Daire Kelly for C O'Reilly (75) KERRY: John B O'Halloran, Conor O'Keeffe, Tadhg Brick, Evan Murphy, Eric Leen, Michael Boyle, Eoin Ross 1-1, Fionan Mackessy, Daniel Collins 0-3, Shane Conway 0-2, Colin Walsh, Daithi Griffin 0-1, Niall Mulcahy, Dan Goggin 0-2, Padraig Boyle 0-11 (11f). Subs: Brandon Barrett for N Mulcahy (ht); Kyle O'Connor for T Brick (ht); Keith Carmody 0-2 for D Goggin, (55); Paudie O'Connor 1-0 for E Murphy, (55); Philip Lucid for P Boyle (63). Referee: Colm McDonald (Antrim)
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 5, 2023 19:43:52 GMT
Hurlers up and running this afternoon. Should get the win against Derry. Should be looking to get promoted this year. Have both Carlow and Offaly at home so should be taking advantage of this. No one cares about hurling You obviously do seeing as you're here commenting on it 🙄 |
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Post by legendz on Feb 6, 2023 8:09:10 GMT
Good start for Kerry. Hurling league R4, R5, semi-finals and final will be on 4 consecutive weekends, immediately followed by 3 weekends of McDonagh Cup. Crazy scheduling.
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 7, 2023 7:32:50 GMT
Kildare had a big win away to Carlow at the weekend. They could be the team to watch out for. In the next few years there's a good chance of them overtaking the likes of Carlow etc
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Post by kerryexile5 on Feb 8, 2023 0:24:53 GMT
Kildare had a big win away to Carlow at the weekend. They could be the team to watch out for. In the next few years there's a good chance of them overtaking the likes of Carlow etc I can see Kildare on par with Wexford and Dublin down the line in Leinster. They bet Wexford in the under 20 championship a few years ago and have a few very strong clubs like Naas, Celbridge etc. All of their underage teams from under 14 up play in the Kilkenny leagues which is a game changer in my eyes. Getting exposed to that level of hurling at a young teenage age, it would bring you up to such a high level. Could be between Kerry, Offaly and Kildare to ge promoted. |
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Post by kerryexile5 on Feb 9, 2023 15:06:20 GMT
Kerry v Carlow this Sunday in Austin Stack at 2pm.
A win here would set us up nicely v Offaly who we have in Killarney in round 3.
Kildare bet Carlow well last weekend.
Daniel Collins, Mackassey & Eoin Ross hurled really well v Derry last weekend.
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Post by tpo on Feb 9, 2023 18:34:14 GMT
Carlow gone down a lot. Kildare have been back training for months so will be fit.
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Post by ciarraiochmallaithe on Feb 11, 2023 10:00:45 GMT
No one cares about hurling You obviously do seeing as you're here commenting on it 🙄 [ sound man 👍 hooe the hurlers win something this year all the best from NY |
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 11, 2023 10:21:05 GMT
Few changes for tomorrow. Another win will put us in a good place ahead of the game with Offaly. Probably best time to play Carlow as they seem to be short a lot of lads at the moment.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 11, 2023 10:43:37 GMT
Can anyone explain to me the idiocy of having the Kerry hurlers and footballers playing the same day (Sat 25th Feb) and one of them in Killarney at 2pm and the others in Stacks at 5! Why have they stopped double headers ever since Covid. It used be great to go in and give some support to the hurlers before the football started. You'll be lucky now to have 500 in Killarney in two weeks  |
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