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Post by hurlingman on Feb 11, 2023 10:21:05 GMT
Few changes for tomorrow. Another win will put us in a good place ahead of the game with Offaly. Probably best time to play Carlow as they seem to be short a lot of lads at the moment.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 11, 2023 10:43:37 GMT
Can anyone explain to me the idiocy of having the Kerry hurlers and footballers playing the same day (Sat 25th Feb) and one of them in Killarney at 2pm and the others in Stacks at 5! Why have they stopped double headers ever since Covid. It used be great to go in and give some support to the hurlers before the football started. You'll be lucky now to have 500 in Killarney in two weeks
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 11, 2023 11:57:40 GMT
Can anyone explain to me the idiocy of having the Kerry hurlers and footballers playing the same day (Sat 25th Feb) and one of them in Killarney at 2pm and the others in Stacks at 5! Why have they stopped double headers ever since Covid. It used be great to go in and give some support to the hurlers before the football started. You'll be lucky now to have 500 in Killarney in two weeks Makes no sense. Imo when fixtures are like this CBs should be made have them are double headers. I seen Kildare and Derry are playing each other in both on the same day but in with one team at home and the other away. As in Derry are at home in hurling and away in football.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 11, 2023 12:05:25 GMT
Liam Griffin is bringing an interesting motion to congress about ensuring all football only clubs must from now on have hurling teams up to U10s/U12s.
Surely an even simpler way to spread the game is to ensure double headers are fixed as much as possible?!
In that case of Derry v Kildare should they not be asked to come to an arrangement to play a double header.
Simple steps and a bit of vision is all this stuff would take
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Post by mossie on Feb 11, 2023 16:17:16 GMT
Can anyone explain to me the idiocy of having the Kerry hurlers and footballers playing the same day (Sat 25th Feb) and one of them in Killarney at 2pm and the others in Stacks at 5! Why have they stopped double headers ever since Covid. It used be great to go in and give some support to the hurlers before the football started. You'll be lucky now to have 500 in Killarney in two weeks some one should come out and explain it apart from the fact that it should be a double header, austin stack park is the more natural home and geographical home for the hurlers and they are driving past the venue that they should be playing in to go to another venue it smacks of the hurlers getting shafted to be honest It could be a huge day for them playing as a curtain raiser to the footballer in either Tralee or Killarney If not possible for it to be a double header, well then the hurlers should be in Tralee
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 11, 2023 17:44:51 GMT
Few changes for tomorrow. Another win will put us in a good place ahead of the game with Offaly. Probably best time to play Carlow as they seem to be short a lot of lads at the moment. [br low standards , why dont kerry win liam McCarthy Why don't you tell us why they won't?
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 12, 2023 8:38:18 GMT
Can anyone explain to me the idiocy of having the Kerry hurlers and footballers playing the same day (Sat 25th Feb) and one of them in Killarney at 2pm and the others in Stacks at 5! Why have they stopped double headers ever since Covid. It used be great to go in and give some support to the hurlers before the football started. You'll be lucky now to have 500 in Killarney in two weeks some one should come out and explain it apart from the fact that it should be a double header, austin stack park is the more natural home and geographical home for the hurlers and they are driving past the venue that they should be playing in to go to another venue it smacks of the hurlers getting shafted to be honest It could be a huge day for them playing as a curtain raiser to the footballer in either Tralee or Killarney If not possible for it to be a double header, well then the hurlers should be in Tralee I won't hold my breath for anyone coming out to explain it. Even if they do it'll probably be something about the pitch not being able to take two games.
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Post by southward on Feb 12, 2023 10:12:01 GMT
It's bizarre. When do the hurlers ever play in Killarney anyway?
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Post by thehermit on Feb 12, 2023 10:31:19 GMT
It's bizarre. When do the hurlers ever play in Killarney anyway? A few times alright but always as a double header in the last few years, well pre-2020 anyway!
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 12, 2023 11:52:43 GMT
It's bizarre. When do the hurlers ever play in Killarney anyway? A few times alright but always as a double header in the last few years, well pre-2020 anyway! Madness, they want to promote the game on paper. Can I ask, obviously there is a football and hurling division or section in the county board, do gate receipts get sent to the county board and in turn get filtered to the relevant d department. Is it a case of the football unwilling to share or split the gate with their hurling counterparts. Regardless, housing hurling in Fitzgeralds is madness, it would actually make more sense to play the game in Ballyduff or Abbeydourney etc. The ladies are in Brosna this weekend and have played their in the past. Bring back doubleheader, give the punters value for money
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Post by thehermit on Feb 12, 2023 16:13:54 GMT
Good win today anyway!
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 12, 2023 16:45:32 GMT
Made hard work of it but a wins a wins. Next three games are the big ones. Podge Boyle again top class. Would be worried if he was to get injured.
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Post by legendz on Feb 12, 2023 16:48:18 GMT
Yeah, good win today. Carlow would have been looking for a response after their first round loss. Offaly and Kildare are also on 4 points, and both are next.
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Post by southward on Feb 12, 2023 17:56:54 GMT
You'll be lucky now to have 500 in Killarney in two weeks Don't think there was that in Tralee today with no competition. A poor crowd witnessed an even poorer game. Kerry needn't be entertaining notions of silverware on today's evidence. Solid enough at the back but nothing going on up front. Throwing another body or 2 up there might have helped help; for most of the game, we had a man up there on his own with no support coming through. Consequently, most of our efforts were from distance and the accuracy just wasn't there on a breezy afternoon. A raft of misses kept a very physical Carlow side in the game and the visitors led by 2 at the break. Advantage Kerry early in the second half as the Carlow 11 picked up a second yellow. Gradually Kerry got on top but could never really pull away. A mini purple patch in the final quarter saw us go five clear 18-13 and with Carlow losing another man to a straight red in the dying minutes, that looked to be that. The visitors then goaled from a free before breaking through again in the 75th minute, a Kerry stick getting a vital touch as disaster loomed. Scraped it by 2 in the end but boy, they made hard work of it. A frustrating afternoon in ASP and as poor a performance as I've seen for a long time. Fionan MacKessey was carried off after a fall late on, it didn't look good.
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Post by mossie on Feb 12, 2023 19:04:13 GMT
good to have four points banked anyways, 3 tough matches coming up
Kerry need to show better form to lift silver as Southward says, maybe it will come yet
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Post by thehermit on Feb 13, 2023 11:03:46 GMT
Reading the reports on the game it sounds like a fairly woeful display alright.
Maybe they were doing a lot of heavy training to prepare for the two big games coming up seeing as they'll have a gap week now.
Hope that's the case anyway! Otherwise you wouldn't be confident of them reaching the Division final!
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Post by legendz on Feb 13, 2023 11:50:06 GMT
The game against Offaly last year in the McDonagh was one of the best games of the year across all levels of hurling.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 13, 2023 13:08:18 GMT
The game against Offaly last year in the McDonagh was one of the best games of the year across all levels of hurling. Yeah it was brilliant, pity the result didn't go our way but that didn't matter in the end either as we still managed to qualify for the final.
We put up a great fight in the final too, a game far better in terms of excitement and drama than the damp squib of a Leinster final that followed! The only interest by the end of that was when Cody and Henry would meet for another hand shake!!
If Kerry can get back to those levels they'll give the McDonagh a real crack again. But we do need to try and break into 1B again too. I feel we have the talent to get back to that level when we are at our potential.
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Post by southward on Feb 13, 2023 18:11:13 GMT
The game against Offaly last year in the McDonagh was one of the best games of the year across all levels of hurling. Amen!
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Post by legendz on Feb 13, 2023 19:50:27 GMT
The game against Offaly last year in the McDonagh was one of the best games of the year across all levels of hurling. Yeah it was brilliant, pity the result didn't go our way but that didn't matter in the end either as we still managed to qualify for the final. We put up a great fight in the final too, a game far better in terms of excitement and drama than the damp squib of a Leinster final that followed! The only interest by the end of that was when Cody and Henry would meet for another hand shake!! If Kerry can get back to those levels they'll give the McDonagh a real crack again. But we do need to try and break into 1B again too. I feel we have the talent to get back to that level when we are at our potential.
Division 1 hurling is deadly. Laois and Westmeath are struggling. 2A to playing any of the top 4 or 5 is a massive gap. Antrim seem to be competing well so far however.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 13, 2023 20:26:13 GMT
Yeah it was brilliant, pity the result didn't go our way but that didn't matter in the end either as we still managed to qualify for the final. We put up a great fight in the final too, a game far better in terms of excitement and drama than the damp squib of a Leinster final that followed! The only interest by the end of that was when Cody and Henry would meet for another hand shake!! If Kerry can get back to those levels they'll give the McDonagh a real crack again. But we do need to try and break into 1B again too. I feel we have the talent to get back to that level when we are at our potential.
Division 1 hurling is deadly. Laois and Westmeath are struggling. 2A to playing any of the top 4 or 5 is a massive gap. Antrim seem to be competing well so far however. Very true but we'll never close that gap unless we get exposed to it as much and as often as possible.
There was a puck of a ball between us and Antrim in the end last June and if Antrim can compete at that level we can too!
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Post by legendz on Feb 13, 2023 21:02:06 GMT
Division 1 hurling is deadly. Laois and Westmeath are struggling. 2A to playing any of the top 4 or 5 is a massive gap. Antrim seem to be competing well so far however. Very true but we'll never close that gap unless we get exposed to it as much and as often as possible. There was a puck of a ball between us and Antrim in the end last June and if Antrim can compete at that level we can too!
Antrim's style seems to suit them being competitive against the top teams. They lost to Laois in the league last year. Offaly and Carlow gave Antrim a good game in the McDonagh last year as well. I agree alright though regards Division 1 exposure. Kerry need that hurling to bring them on.
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Post by kerryexile5 on Feb 14, 2023 16:14:19 GMT
Very true but we'll never close that gap unless we get exposed to it as much and as often as possible. There was a puck of a ball between us and Antrim in the end last June and if Antrim can compete at that level we can too!
Antrim's style seems to suit them being competitive against the top teams. They lost to Laois in the league last year. Offaly and Carlow gave Antrim a good game in the McDonagh last year as well. I agree alright though regards Division 1 exposure. Kerry need that hurling to bring them on. Get our 20 to 26 year olds exposed to division 1b hurling for 3-4 years and that level of hurling would become second nature to them. It’s the only way forward. Even if meant winning the relegation playoff for 3 years in a row in 1b the experience they would gain up in that high division would be unbelievable for their development. The hurlers are there in Kerry, I think dual players sitting on the bench for Kerry footballers might not pick football as quick if they knew they playing Kilkenny, Tipperary etc every March in the league.
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Post by mossie on Feb 14, 2023 21:53:38 GMT
Division 1 hurling is deadly. Laois and Westmeath are struggling. 2A to playing any of the top 4 or 5 is a massive gap. Antrim seem to be competing well so far however. Very true but we'll never close that gap unless we get exposed to it as much and as often as possible. There was a puck of a ball between us and Antrim in the end last June and if Antrim can compete at that level we can too!
To be frank, I dont see Kerry as strong enough to win the Joe McDonagh in 2023, okay we have been in the last few finals and whilst it was a great comeback v Antrim in the final to loose narrowly, I see Antrim as been a nice bit ahead of us hope I am wrong btw
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Post by mossie on Feb 14, 2023 22:01:00 GMT
Antrim's style seems to suit them being competitive against the top teams. They lost to Laois in the league last year. Offaly and Carlow gave Antrim a good game in the McDonagh last year as well. I agree alright though regards Division 1 exposure. Kerry need that hurling to bring them on. Get our 20 to 26 year olds exposed to division 1b hurling for 3-4 years and that level of hurling would become second nature to them. It’s the only way forward. Even if meant winning the relegation playoff for 3 years in a row in 1b the experience they would gain up in that high division would be unbelievable for their development. The hurlers are there in Kerry, I think dual players sitting on the bench for Kerry footballers might not pick football as quick if they knew they playing Kilkenny, Tipperary etc every March in the league. We are well off Division 1 standard, the munster hurling league matches a few weeks ago gave an indication of this as did the All Ireland prelimenary QF v Wexford in 2022 Re footballers well 3 on the kerry football senior panel presently would walk on the starting 15 in hurling - Barry O'Sullivan as the hurlers are lacking ball winners in the half forward line, Donal 0'Sullivan just as good at hurling as football and Barry Mahony With this trio Kerry would be a much better team and have more strength in depth Michael Burns was an outstanding under age hurler but hasnt played since minor
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 14, 2023 22:48:56 GMT
Get our 20 to 26 year olds exposed to division 1b hurling for 3-4 years and that level of hurling would become second nature to them. It’s the only way forward. Even if meant winning the relegation playoff for 3 years in a row in 1b the experience they would gain up in that high division would be unbelievable for their development. The hurlers are there in Kerry, I think dual players sitting on the bench for Kerry footballers might not pick football as quick if they knew they playing Kilkenny, Tipperary etc every March in the league. We are well off Division 1 standard, the munster hurling league matches a few weeks ago gave an indication of this as did the All Ireland prelimenary QF v Wexford in 2022 Re footballers well 3 on the kerry football senior panel presently would walk on the starting 15 in hurling - Barry O'Sullivan as the hurlers are lacking ball winners in the half forward line, Donal 0'Sullivan just as good at hurling as football and Barry Mahony With this trio Kerry would be a much better team and have more strength in depth Michael Burns was an outstanding under age hurler but hasnt played since minor Donal O Sullivan is looking like he'll have a role to play with the footballers this year. You'd wonder how much game time Barry Mahony will get however and is he being wasted on the bench. When he last played with the hurlers in 2020 he was very good.
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Post by mossie on Feb 14, 2023 23:06:46 GMT
We are well off Division 1 standard, the munster hurling league matches a few weeks ago gave an indication of this as did the All Ireland prelimenary QF v Wexford in 2022 Re footballers well 3 on the kerry football senior panel presently would walk on the starting 15 in hurling - Barry O'Sullivan as the hurlers are lacking ball winners in the half forward line, Donal 0'Sullivan just as good at hurling as football and Barry Mahony With this trio Kerry would be a much better team and have more strength in depth Michael Burns was an outstanding under age hurler but hasnt played since minor Donal O Sullivan is looking like he'll have a role to play with the footballers this year. You'd wonder how much game time Barry Mahony will get however and is he being wasted on the bench. When he last played with the hurlers in 2020 he was very good. Barry played for the hurlers in 2020 and was good, also played in 2021 and his form was poor actually But no doubt he is a class hurler, showed his class from a young age with Crotta minor hurlers in a few minor hurling finals and has played Fitzgibbon cup hurling with LIT. He may even had gone to LIT on a hurling scholarship
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Post by kerryexile5 on Feb 15, 2023 14:33:26 GMT
Donal O Sullivan is looking like he'll have a role to play with the footballers this year. You'd wonder how much game time Barry Mahony will get however and is he being wasted on the bench. When he last played with the hurlers in 2020 he was very good. Barry played for the hurlers in 2020 and was good, also played in 2021 and his form was poor actually But no doubt he is a class hurler, showed his class from a young age with Crotta minor hurlers in a few minor hurling finals and has played Fitzgibbon cup hurling with LIT. He may even had gone to LIT on a hurling scholarship If Barry gets cut from Jack O Connors football panel, will he even go in with the Kerry hurlers? I am not so sure he will. As mentioned above Barry Dan, Donal Down and Barry Mahony could be the difference in winning Joe McDonagh. Even Jack Goulding playing for London is a loss and they should of worked something out with Darragh O Connell to give one big year to kerry hurlers even if he done one night with Cuala during the week to break up the commute.
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Post by legendz on Feb 15, 2023 18:08:07 GMT
To keep our feet on the ground after last year, Carlow did us a favour by beating Offaly. Laois will be strong in the McDonagh with the benefit of Division 1 hurling. 3 into 2 doesn't go. Laois, Offaly and Kerry will all be battling for the top 2. Kildare have had a good start to the league. Carlow if they find their McDonagh form and Down are no pushovers. It's a competitive level.
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Post by mossie on Feb 15, 2023 23:51:15 GMT
Barry played for the hurlers in 2020 and was good, also played in 2021 and his form was poor actually But no doubt he is a class hurler, showed his class from a young age with Crotta minor hurlers in a few minor hurling finals and has played Fitzgibbon cup hurling with LIT. He may even had gone to LIT on a hurling scholarship If Barry gets cut from Jack O Connors football panel, will he even go in with the Kerry hurlers? I am not so sure he will. As mentioned above Barry Dan, Donal Down and Barry Mahony could be the difference in winning Joe McDonagh. Even Jack Goulding playing for London is a loss and they should of worked something out with Darragh O Connell to give one big year to kerry hurlers even if he done one night with Cuala during the week to break up the commute. Barry Dan, Donal Down, Barry Mahony all won all ireland under 21 B medals in hurling with Kerry Barry Dan is scary good at hurling for a man that has only dabbled in it really Jack Goulding was a big loss to the hurlers as you say when he moved to London
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