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Post by taibhse on Feb 5, 2019 10:41:20 GMT
I agree giving the score would be an improvement but I’d love a bit of analysis. I know Sean scored a lot of frees on Sunday but I’d love to know about his general play Is he tracking, is he staying on the 40 as a link man? Is he playing good ball to an inside line- if I just wanted th hear that he just scored frees then I’d follow the text feeds online (which I sometimes prefer to do). Kerry Radio provides a valuable service and none more so than its sports coverage. That is a given. But, I would suggest that it’s time to break up the two boys. They seem to have great banter and crack between themselves but fail to transmit the basic information that the listener requires. Keep Ambrose out of the commentary and let him loose during half time or even a long stoppage in play. Part of the problem is that they don’t seem to be able to identify our players without seeing a number on their backs. The average supporter can recognize the gauche of a lad after a few minutes on the field. Might I also suggest that they undertake a crash course on the basic rules of the game? How can anyone analyze a game when they don’t understand the rules?
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Post by animal on Feb 5, 2019 11:35:51 GMT
I agree giving the score would be an improvement but I’d love a bit of analysis. I know Sean scored a lot of frees on Sunday but I’d love to know about his general play Is he tracking, is he staying on the 40 as a link man? Is he playing good ball to an inside line- if I just wanted th hear that he just scored frees then I’d follow the text feeds online (which I sometimes prefer to do). Kerry Radio provides a valuable service and none more so than its sports coverage. That is a given. But, I would suggest that it’s time to break up the two boys. They seem to have great banter and crack between themselves but fail to transmit the basic information that the listener requires. Keep Ambrose out of the commentary and let him loose during half time or even a long stoppage in play. Part of the problem is that they don’t seem to be able to identify our players without seeing a number on their backs. The average supporter can recognize the gauche of a lad after a few minutes on the field. Might I also suggest that they undertake a crash course on the basic rules of the game? How can anyone analyze a game when they don’t understand the rules?I have noticed this so often. For the most part they are clueless as to what warrants a black card.
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Post by buck02 on Feb 5, 2019 13:04:49 GMT
They gave out that Tommy Walsh took a free the last day when he was after getting a mark. They wondered when he started taking frees.
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Post by Corner Back on Feb 5, 2019 19:07:45 GMT
In the analysis after the Tyrone game John Kennedy said he wouldn't play Peter Crowley at corner back.
Peter Crowley played corner back in the 2011 Munster U-21 final. The manager that night, John Kennedy!
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Post by fivenarow on Feb 5, 2019 22:21:52 GMT
The commentary is absolutely shocking at times, RK know people have nothing else to listen to the game on unless you log on to the oppositions radio coverage if they have it. IMO they try to imitate Michael O Muircheataigh or even Weeshie with little success. They obviously don’t think knowing the rules is important but it was great to hear last Sunday that the last time David Moran played for Kerry he was single but that he’s now married!! I’d imagine that’s fairly obvious & common knowledge to anyone that follows the game in Kerry & has some access to the media, plus he missed the Tyrone because he was just back from honeymoon. Great to know but any chance they’d tell us what’s happening on the pitch or maybe a score update now & again wouldn’t go amiss. Some of the comments about the officials are cringeworthy at times too.
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Post by homerj on Feb 6, 2019 8:41:07 GMT
i think ye are all being remarkably harsh on radio kerry! if they folded tomorrow, everybody would miss it. doing a great service to GAA in the county.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 6, 2019 9:25:24 GMT
i think ye are all being remarkably harsh on radio kerry! if they folded tomorrow, everybody would miss it. doing a great service to GAA in the county. They do a great job for all us exiles but it's time to start involving a bit of analysis- even if that means just having a panel at half time or something.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 6, 2019 9:25:43 GMT
I thought the coverage was good for the Tyrone game. The commentator was left to commentate without interruption by Billy oShea for the most part and John Kennedys half time and post match was analytical and measured.
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Post by fivenarow on Feb 6, 2019 10:21:40 GMT
i think ye are all being remarkably harsh on radio kerry! if they folded tomorrow, everybody would miss it. doing a great service to GAA in the county. I don’t think anyone would want to see it folding but there’s a slot in the morning on RK designated for birthday requests. I don’t need to know about Mary from Castleislands sister in Boston while Sean o Shea is kicking a 45 or about some fellow in a high viz jacket giving out to someone.
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 6, 2019 10:36:56 GMT
Yes RK have a unique position, for most games they are the only way for fans not at the game to follow what is happening. The majority of such fans want to get an accurate commentary on the game with some meaningful analysis at appropriate timess - breaks in play or half time typically. There are times when the commentators forget their primary objective - that being to inform listeners about what is actualy infolding. All too often they complicate matters by trying to entertain listerners and offer real time editorial analysis forgetting their primary task. I generally don't care about what Ambrose thinks and certainly don't share his opinion on how the game should be played - just tell me what is happening. They want to be the stars of the show rather than the game - just calm down and concentrate on calling the game before them and all would be better off.
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Post by taibhse on Feb 6, 2019 11:47:01 GMT
All anyone is suggesting is how the product can be improved on. Surely, there are a few risks and no downsides in that. As a general rule, most people resist change in some way. This is especially true when it affects something they are evaluated on – and nobody likes being evaluated.
For me personally, there invariably comes a point in every broadcast that I find myself frantically searching for another local station covering the game. I know that I am not the only one doing so – that is just a fact.
Most of these broadcasts are supported in one way or another by corporate sponsorship, advertising, and government subsidies. Attracting a body of listeners and holding on to them has to be a consideration.
I would love to see R.K. take a bold initiative and recruit an ex-player from the past 5 years who could enlighten listeners of what is happening on and off the field during the course of a game. Some of the present analysis of the modern game is from a different era and seems to have passed over the heads of the boys.
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Post by homerj on Feb 6, 2019 14:05:20 GMT
In the analysis after the Tyrone game John Kennedy said he wouldn't play Peter Crowley at corner back. Peter Crowley played corner back in the 2011 Munster U-21 final. The manager that night, John Kennedy! because nothing changes in 8 years? kennedy had probaby 8 training sessions to pick his team, senior team management have had 8 years to see him. and i agree.....he is not a corner back and never will be.
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Post by givehimaball on Feb 6, 2019 15:43:01 GMT
If people think that Radio Kerry are doing a good job in terms of their coverage of games, there's a very simple experiment you can do - at a match either get hold of one of those small personal radios or use your phone and a set of earphones and watch the game while listening to the Radio Kerry commentary or the next time a game is being broadcast on TV that Radio Kerry are also covering, turn down the television and turn the radio on.I defy anyone who does this to argue the case that there's isn't massive room for improvement.
I don't think it would be that hard to improve things - stuff like not realising Tommy Walsh had claimed a mark and that he had to be the one to kick it and the fact that they didn't know that you are allowed kick a sideline ball backwards if it's inside the opposition's 21 metre line just seem like the kind of thing that's down to laziness more than anything.
Overall I get the sense that there is very little in the way of preparation done before games and there is very little done in terms of post-match review - I get the feeling that the commentary is never listened back to and mistakes/areas to improve are noted. I think they need someone more in touch with the modern game - Ambrose's (like a lot of former players turned pundits) view of the game seems to revolve around the time period of when he played. Overall I think the people of Kerry deserve a higher standard than slightly above the bare minimum of turning up which is what I would describe the current standard.
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Post by himself on Feb 6, 2019 18:07:28 GMT
I respect all opinions, but I honestly think that people don't appreciatee when they have it good. I listen to various matches on various local stations in regard to minor, junior, and colleges games. Highland are very good, Shannonside do a great job, but Radio Kerry is right up there with any of them. Their county league coverage and updates system are excellent, some brilliant people involved. Does anyone really think that they are rewarded by a particular revenue stream for the huge effort that takes? Voice of the people, and I thank them for it.
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Post by Corner Back on Feb 6, 2019 20:51:32 GMT
I respect all opinions, but I honestly think that people don't appreciatee when they have it good. I listen to various matches on various local stations in regard to minor, junior, and colleges games. Highland are very good, Shannonside do a great job, but Radio Kerry is right up there with any of them. Their county league coverage and updates system are excellent, some brilliant people involved. Does anyone really think that they are rewarded by a particular revenue stream for the huge effort that takes? Voice of the people, and I thank them for it. There is no doubt that Radio Kerry provide a great service. The weekend sport program is excellent. It is the commentators on the Kerry games that are poor. Local journalists like Mutt Murphy, Jason O'Connor and Timmy Sheehan provide excellent reports on county league etc.
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 6, 2019 20:55:18 GMT
In the analysis after the Tyrone game John Kennedy said he wouldn't play Peter Crowley at corner back. Peter Crowley played corner back in the 2011 Munster U-21 final. The manager that night, John Kennedy! Maybe hes more able to judge than all us hurlers on the ditch
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