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Post by whitefire on Oct 27, 2018 18:34:55 GMT
What happened to this thread? I think the discussion was fair and balanced. Some of the suggestions such as having a referee in studio and on Terrace Talk to explain controversial decisions was good. If Ambrose or Billy are conducting their half-time analysis from hearing radio commentary without actually seeing the game, it deserves to be called out. Did someone from their Head Office in Tralee contact the forum moderators to shut down our discussion?
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Post by Control5 on Oct 27, 2018 20:14:29 GMT
I didn't delete that thread anyway.
I don't know what happened to it.
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Post by Corner Back on Oct 27, 2018 20:27:50 GMT
I started the thread and I did not delete it either (just for clarity)
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 27, 2018 22:33:42 GMT
I think this forum has improved in it's independence and that will only strengthen it - there are a few who would try to curb it to protect their skulduggery that is detrimental to things GAA.
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Post by Control3 on Oct 28, 2018 0:29:49 GMT
I didn't delete the thread either
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Post by clubman on Oct 28, 2018 8:26:03 GMT
I think this forum has improved in it's independence and that will only strengthen it - there are a few who would try to curb it to protect their skulduggery that is detrimental to things GAA. What? What skulduggery are Radio Kerry involved in?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 29, 2018 8:13:21 GMT
I think this forum has improved in it's independence and that will only strengthen it - there are a few who would try to curb it to protect their skulduggery that is detrimental to things GAA. What? What skulduggery are Radio Kerry involved in? Local media outlets are open to local influences and I recall one instance, albeit in the distant past. It is not such much media outlets themselves as baddie using them. Local newspapers no longer report on court cases involving insurance claims and which would act as a deterrent to bogus operators, many of which are aided and abetted by solicitors. The benefits to the GAA community would be astronomical and it would also boost the wider community - e.g. many tourist attractions have to be closed because the terrain (e.g. stony ground) leaves them open to an avalanche of such claims. The potential loss is significant, and what with tourism being the lifeblood of the local economy. Now that's skulduggery for you!
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Post by glengael on Oct 29, 2018 11:45:52 GMT
All local and indeed national media, not just Radio Kerry are open to local influence, that's the nature of the beast. Advertisers pay the bills and expect to get the ear of maximum number of listeners or the eye of the most readers for their money. If they are not getting it, they move on.
Radio Kerry isn't the only local media outlet that can be criticsed. The Killarney Advertiser for example prides itself on representing local views and stories and has done so for a long time now. Yet they didn't so much as carry a preview ahead of the All Ireland Final last Sept when Kerry were aiming for 5 in a row!
I was surprised to see this thread disappear and would look forward to an explanation as to why that happens.
I don't think Radio Kerry Sport should have any fears about constructive criticism and they they aren't constantly looking to revamp their coverage of all sports, not just GAA. As I've said before they do deliver a lot more than many local stations, where sport is just something slotted in to a music show on Saturday and Sunday evenings, unless it's a big Senior inter-county match. Radio Kerry cover the first round u-17 game in full on a Wednesday evening in April/May, in many stations you'd be lucky to get a result from such a game around 9pm if the presenter remembers to check in.
If any poster feels strongly about improvements/suggestions for new panellists, I'm sure Joe O'Mahony would be delighted to hear from you.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 29, 2018 17:38:51 GMT
All local and indeed national media, not just Radio Kerry are open to local influence, that's the nature of the beast. Advertisers pay the bills and expect to get the ear of maximum number of listeners or the eye of the most readers for their money. If they are not getting it, they move on. Radio Kerry isn't the only local media outlet that can be criticsed. The Killarney Advertiser for example prides itself on representing local views and stories and has done so for a long time now. Yet they didn't so much as carry a preview ahead of the All Ireland Final last Sept when Kerry were aiming for 5 in a row! I was surprised to see this thread disappear and would look forward to an explanation as to why that happens. I don't think Radio Kerry Sport should have any fears about constructive criticism and they they aren't constantly looking to revamp their coverage of all sports, not just GAA. As I've said before they do deliver a lot more than many local stations, where sport is just something slotted in to a music show on Saturday and Sunday evenings, unless it's a big Senior inter-county match. Radio Kerry cover the first round u-17 game in full on a Wednesday evening in April/May, in many stations you'd be lucky to get a result from such a game around 9pm if the presenter remembers to check in. If any poster feels strongly about improvements/suggestions for new panellists, I'm sure Joe O'Mahony would be delighted to hear from you. By and large i agree that RK does a fine job.
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Post by Corner Back on Oct 29, 2018 19:44:08 GMT
Terrace Talk team of the Championship
Shane Murphy
John Payne Mike Moloney Tom Leo O'Sullivan
Gavin White Tom O'Sullivan Jack Sherwood
Johnny Buckley David Moran
Micheal Burns Mikey Geaney Daithi Casey
David Clifford Paul Geaney Tony Brosnan
Views on the above?
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Oct 29, 2018 20:29:52 GMT
Didn’t see every game but I thought Burns was very average yesterday. He was marking one of Dingles lesser players yesterday and was so so.
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Post by A.N. Other on Oct 29, 2018 22:16:59 GMT
How Gavin O Brien didn't get on that team is just beyond me.
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Post by greenmen55 on Oct 29, 2018 22:58:45 GMT
How Gavin O Brien didn't get on that team is just beyond me. Seen on Traleetoday this morning that as a result of his championship performances he has been called into the senior panel which surely warrants a place on the “team of the year”. Also noticed that Jack Sherwood also made the team of the year I missed quite a lot of this years championship but what I have seen of him was decent he was a commanding presence around the middle for East Kerry and was one of their leaders this year. Maybe we will see him get a chance to put on the jersey again in January.... Remains to be seen.
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Post by kerryexile on Oct 30, 2018 15:19:12 GMT
I always assumed that this forum was being run and managed in an ethical and professional way. The fact that a thread that was critical of Radio Kerry could “disappear” has changed that. Clearly there are a limited number of thing that could have taken place for that to happen and clearly there was only 1 or max 2 beneficiaries from such a disappearance.
I am also astonished at the lack of concern by posters at what happened and also the lack of concern by the forum control/ management – just a couple of individuals diving for cover.
Dare I mention the words “best practice” and “transparency”.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 30, 2018 15:30:55 GMT
I always assumed that this forum was being run and managed in an ethical and professional way. The fact that a thread that was critical of Radio Kerry could “disappear” has changed that. Clearly there are a limited number of thing that could have taken place for that to happen and clearly there was only 1 or max 2 beneficiaries from such a disappearance. I am also astonished at the lack of concern by posters at what happened and also the lack of concern by the forum control/ management – just a couple of individuals diving for cover. Dare I mention the words “best practice” and “transparency”. There isn't any hard evidence that the previous thread was deleted. This thread still exists after all.
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Post by Control5 on Oct 30, 2018 16:44:45 GMT
I always assumed that this forum was being run and managed in an ethical and professional way. The fact that a thread that was critical of Radio Kerry could “disappear” has changed that. Clearly there are a limited number of thing that could have taken place for that to happen and clearly there was only 1 or max 2 beneficiaries from such a disappearance. I am also astonished at the lack of concern by posters at what happened and also the lack of concern by the forum control/ management – just a couple of individuals diving for cover. Dare I mention the words “best practice” and “transparency”. I do not feel any need to dive for cover. I did not delete the thread. I stated a fact. I resent the insinuation.
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Post by buck02 on Oct 30, 2018 17:06:08 GMT
After I read ballythefiresides post I did a bit of research and I have found hard evidence that Radio Kerry are in fact the official radio station of the Illuminati. If you play Terrace Talk backwards you hear all sorts of subliminal messages.
I expect that they hacked this site and deleted any negative posts.
By tomorrow I hope to have proof that Denis O Brien ordered the hack.
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Post by keepitsimple on Oct 30, 2018 17:24:22 GMT
It is disappointing that the thread has disappeared - I thought it was constructive in the main and in no way offensive. In general Radio Kerry do a fantastic job and people were just pointing out where they felt improvements could be made. Freedom of speech and all that...
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Post by clubman on Oct 30, 2018 19:21:45 GMT
I always assumed that this forum was being run and managed in an ethical and professional way. The fact that a thread that was critical of Radio Kerry could “disappear” has changed that. Clearly there are a limited number of thing that could have taken place for that to happen and clearly there was only 1 or max 2 beneficiaries from such a disappearance. I am also astonished at the lack of concern by posters at what happened and also the lack of concern by the forum control/ management – just a couple of individuals diving for cover. Dare I mention the words “best practice” and “transparency”. What concern would you like posters to express? A thread went missing, hardly the end of the world. Im failing to see how anyone could be astonished at this
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Post by Fado on Oct 31, 2018 2:20:00 GMT
Just because it's disappeared from here doesn't mean it can't be found again.
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Post by Control3 on Oct 31, 2018 13:16:14 GMT
I always assumed that this forum was being run and managed in an ethical and professional way. The fact that a thread that was critical of Radio Kerry could “disappear” has changed that. Clearly there are a limited number of thing that could have taken place for that to happen and clearly there was only 1 or max 2 beneficiaries from such a disappearance. I am also astonished at the lack of concern by posters at what happened and also the lack of concern by the forum control/ management – just a couple of individuals diving for cover. Dare I mention the words “best practice” and “transparency”. I do not feel any need to dive for cover. I did not delete the thread. I stated a fact. I resent the insinuation. I echo those sentiments Control5 I don't know how people think this forum is run. Maybe by a seedy cabal that contains members of the control team along with some local media presided over by the County Board perhaps? The reality is a rather less cloak and dagger and more mundane affair. The forum was shut down in late 2006 as things got a bit out of hand on it. In the meantime I launched an unofficial forum that was used for discussion during this period. When this forum was re-instated in May 2007 I was contacted by admin and asked to become a moderator which I have being doing since. There are 4 members of the control team (Control,Control2,Control3 and Control5). I don't know here COntrol4 went of if they ever existed. A bit like Keyser Söze As moderators we don't have any access to overall site settings like look and feel SSL etc. Simply we can moderate content and members. There is a member of the county board also with access 'GAA Officer'(I presume its a county board member). You probably have seen them posting info about events etc They also have moderating access or above. (I can't tell as I am only a moderator) I have no idea who 'admin' is. I only ever got the odd PM from him/her and the last was about 4 years ago. I have never received anything for my time or tickets etc so am not in 'thrall' to anyone as it were. I have never been asked to remove a topic either by 'admin' or anyone else from the county board. I have removed threads oy my own accord before but, they were for the usual reasons. Its easy to delete a thread by mistake. It nearly happened to me on one all Ireland final weekend. I meant to sticky the thread but, ended up deleting it. Lucky i realised my mistake before I saved the changes as oterwise I think the reaction on this site would be a mixture of if the Kerry v Donegal thread disappeared the Friday night before the All Ireland Final. I have no idea who deleted the thread as I don't have sufficient access to see the logs. I only had a cursory glance at the thread and didn't see anything untoward in it so don't know why it would be deleted unless something outlandish went up after I viewed it. But, that would normally just mean a post is deleted. For anyone that is interested the first thread created when the forum returned in 07 is available here
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Nov 1, 2018 13:44:10 GMT
I do not feel any need to dive for cover. I did not delete the thread. I stated a fact. I resent the insinuation. I echo those sentiments Control5 I don't know how people think this forum is run. Maybe by a seedy cabal that contains members of the control team along with some local media presided over by the County Board perhaps? The reality is a rather less cloak and dagger and more mundane affair. The forum was shut down in late 2006 as things got a bit out of hand on it. In the meantime I launched an unofficial forum that was used for discussion during this period. When this forum was re-instated in May 2007 I was contacted by admin and asked to become a moderator which I have being doing since. There are 4 members of the control team (Control,Control2,Control3 and Control5). I don't know here COntrol4 went of if they ever existed. A bit like Keyser Söze As moderators we don't have any access to overall site settings like look and feel SSL etc. Simply we can moderate content and members. There is a member of the county board also with access 'GAA Officer'(I presume its a county board member). You probably have seen them posting info about events etc They also have moderating access or above. (I can't tell as I am only a moderator) I have no idea who 'admin' is. I only ever got the odd PM from him/her and the last was about 4 years ago. I have never received anything for my time or tickets etc so am not in 'thrall' to anyone as it were. I have never been asked to remove a topic either by 'admin' or anyone else from the county board. I have removed threads oy my own accord before but, they were for the usual reasons. Its easy to delete a thread by mistake. It nearly happened to me on one all Ireland final weekend. I meant to sticky the thread but, ended up deleting it. Lucky i realised my mistake before I saved the changes as oterwise I think the reaction on this site would be a mixture of if the Kerry v Donegal thread disappeared the Friday night before the All Ireland Final. I have no idea who deleted the thread as I don't have sufficient access to see the logs. I only had a cursory glance at the thread and didn't see anything untoward in it so don't know why it would be deleted unless something outlandish went up after I viewed it. But, that would normally just mean a post is deleted. For anyone that is interested the first thread created when the forum returned in 07 is available hereThat's fair enough I suppose. I didn't realise that yourself and the other Control members aren't fully in charge of what goes on here. I always assumed that ye got tickets for finals etc or a season ticket or something as well for the time ye put in on here. Still no real explanation for what happened the thread. Maybe admin could have a look and let us know?
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Post by sullyschoice on Nov 1, 2018 14:59:30 GMT
I do not feel any need to dive for cover. I did not delete the thread. I stated a fact. I resent the insinuation. I echo those sentiments Control5 I don't know how people think this forum is run. Maybe by a seedy cabal that contains members of the control team along with some local media presided over by the County Board perhaps? The reality is a rather less cloak and dagger and more mundane affair. The forum was shut down in late 2006 as things got a bit out of hand on it. In the meantime I launched an unofficial forum that was used for discussion during this period. When this forum was re-instated in May 2007 I was contacted by admin and asked to become a moderator which I have being doing since. There are 4 members of the control team (Control,Control2,Control3 and Control5). I don't know here COntrol4 went of if they ever existed. A bit like Keyser Söze As moderators we don't have any access to overall site settings like look and feel SSL etc. Simply we can moderate content and members. There is a member of the county board also with access 'GAA Officer'(I presume its a county board member). You probably have seen them posting info about events etc They also have moderating access or above. (I can't tell as I am only a moderator) I have no idea who 'admin' is. I only ever got the odd PM from him/her and the last was about 4 years ago. I have never received anything for my time or tickets etc so am not in 'thrall' to anyone as it were. I have never been asked to remove a topic either by 'admin' or anyone else from the county board. I have removed threads oy my own accord before but, they were for the usual reasons. Its easy to delete a thread by mistake. It nearly happened to me on one all Ireland final weekend. I meant to sticky the thread but, ended up deleting it. Lucky i realised my mistake before I saved the changes as oterwise I think the reaction on this site would be a mixture of if the Kerry v Donegal thread disappeared the Friday night before the All Ireland Final. I have no idea who deleted the thread as I don't have sufficient access to see the logs. I only had a cursory glance at the thread and didn't see anything untoward in it so don't know why it would be deleted unless something outlandish went up after I viewed it. But, that would normally just mean a post is deleted. For anyone that is interested the first thread created when the forum returned in 07 is available hereI know who Control4 was but I am saying nothing except that they were a former contributor to this forum
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Post by kerryexile on Nov 1, 2018 15:18:26 GMT
I echo those sentiments Control5 I don't know how people think this forum is run. Maybe by a seedy cabal that contains members of the control team along with some local media presided over by the County Board perhaps? The reality is a rather less cloak and dagger and more mundane affair. The forum was shut down in late 2006 as things got a bit out of hand on it. In the meantime I launched an unofficial forum that was used for discussion during this period. When this forum was re-instated in May 2007 I was contacted by admin and asked to become a moderator which I have being doing since. There are 4 members of the control team (Control,Control2,Control3 and Control5). I don't know here COntrol4 went of if they ever existed. A bit like Keyser Söze :) As moderators we don't have any access to overall site settings like look and feel SSL etc. Simply we can moderate content and members. There is a member of the county board also with access 'GAA Officer'(I presume its a county board member). You probably have seen them posting info about events etc They also have moderating access or above. (I can't tell as I am only a moderator) I have no idea who 'admin' is. I only ever got the odd PM from him/her and the last was about 4 years ago. I have never received anything for my time or tickets etc so am not in 'thrall' to anyone as it were. I have never been asked to remove a topic either by 'admin' or anyone else from the county board. I have removed threads oy my own accord before but, they were for the usual reasons. Its easy to delete a thread by mistake. It nearly happened to me on one all Ireland final weekend. I meant to sticky the thread but, ended up deleting it. Lucky i realised my mistake before I saved the changes as oterwise I think the reaction on this site would be a mixture of if the Kerry v Donegal thread disappeared the Friday night before the All Ireland Final. I have no idea who deleted the thread as I don't have sufficient access to see the logs. I only had a cursory glance at the thread and didn't see anything untoward in it so don't know why it would be deleted unless something outlandish went up after I viewed it. But, that would normally just mean a post is deleted. For anyone that is interested the first thread created when the forum returned in 07 is available hereGood post Control 3 – very disarming. Like AWB I thought you guys were running the show. When a pundit on Radio Kerry gets critical of the CB or any aspect of the setup he doesn’t last too long. Now when the county board is hosting criticism of Radio Kerry it doesn’t last too long either. It is not healthy when the impression can be formed that 2 of the most influential institutions in the county are protecting each other. Of course anyone with the skills and the rights of access could trace the missing thread.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Nov 1, 2018 16:41:01 GMT
I wouldn't be holding my breath about getting any answers about what happened the thread at the same time. Neither am I too bothered to be honest as their has been plenty of robust debate on this place through the years that wasn't shut down. A lot of it very close to the bone in many respects.
If it becomes a regular occurrence that any criticism of the county board or radio kerry or other organisations (as long as its not slanderous or crazy) gets censored then it will be the death of this place.
Neither can we let it degenerate into soomething like the mayogaablog, the people republic of cork, hoganstand which are pure manure
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Post by An Bradán on Nov 2, 2018 0:10:52 GMT
I respect the amount of coverage Radio Kerry gives to the GAA. They are far ahead of so many other local radio stations. Unfortunately it has been my experience that live commentary can often be described as "loosely based" on what's actually happening on the field.
Obviously too there is a very cosy relationship between the CB and RK also which doesn't lead to difficult questions being asked at times.This is understandable but stifles debate. The two organisations are mutually dependent and will not rock the boat.
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Post by whitefire on Nov 3, 2018 1:52:38 GMT
I respect the amount of coverage Radio Kerry gives to the GAA. They are far ahead of so many other local radio stations. Unfortunately it has been my experience that live commentary can often be described as "loosely based" on what's actually happening on the field. Obviously too there is a very cosy relationship between the CB and RK also which doesn't lead to difficult questions being asked at times.This is understandable but stifles debate. The two organisations are mutually dependent and will not rock the boat. The cosy relationship between County Board and Radio Kerry most definitely stifles debate at times. Look, we all know its coverage is better than most other local radio stations but in a county with our tradition, we should expect and demand it to be that way. Radio Kerry regularly claims to be the voice of the kingdom and it should put the hard questions Kerry people want answered to players, management and County Board officials when required. The health of GAA in the county will be better because of it.
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Post by Corner Back on Feb 4, 2019 17:48:01 GMT
Given some of the comments on the Cavan v Kerry thread I think this thread deserves a bump.
Someone on that thread said the commentators are hilarious. I agree, they are a joke. You never seem to know what is happening in the game.
Is it that difficult to say who has the ball and where on the pitch they are?
Is it Radio Kerry policy to hire analysts that must be retired from playing at least 25 years?
I don't like to be overly-critical as Radio Kerry give great coverage to all sports, just the live commentary is so poor.
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Post by Kingdomson on Feb 4, 2019 23:46:15 GMT
Given some of the comments on the Cavan v Kerry thread I think this thread deserves a bump. Someone on that thread said the commentators are hilarious. I agree, they are a joke. You never seem to know what is happening in the game. Is it that difficult to say who has the ball and where on the pitch they are? Is it Radio Kerry policy to hire analysts that must be retired from playing at least 25 years? I don't like to be overly-critical as Radio Kerry give great coverage to all sports, just the live commentary is so poor. I agree too! Just giving the actual scoreline in the game at regular intervals would be a huge improvement!! Notice how they rarely actually say what the scoreline is during a game - they call a score but not the actual scoreline 'there's another point they shout' but you wouldn't know if a team is a point ahead or behind half the time with those jokers.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 5, 2019 7:14:29 GMT
I agree giving the score would be an improvement but I’d love a bit of analysis. I know Sean scored a lot of frees on Sunday but I’d love to know about his general play
Is he tracking, is he staying on the 40 as a link man? Is he playing good ball to an inside line- if I just wanted th hear that he just scored frees then I’d follow the text feeds online (which I sometimes prefer to do).
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