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Post by givehimaball on Sept 20, 2018 19:42:36 GMT
Corn Uí Mhuiri (Senior A Football – Under 19)
Top 2 in each group qualify for the Quarter-Finals
Group A 1) Trá Lí CBS 2) Coláiste Chríost Rí 3) Coláiste Baile an Róistigh
Group B 1) Coláiste Cholim Baile an Chollaigh 2) Ardscoil Cluain Meala 3) Coláiste Fhlannáin
Group C 1) PS Chorca Dhuibhne 2) Dr. na Banndan 3) PS Sciobairín 4) DLS Mágh Chrómtha
Group D 1) Coláiste Bhréanainn Cill Airne 2) Mercy Mounthawk Trá Lí 3) PS Cloich na Coillte 4) I.S.K. (CillOrglan)
2 teams from each group go forward.
Group matches to be played 24th October, 14th November and 28th November
Note, the date of birth eligibility for the respective 2018/2019 competitions is as follows –
Senior (Under 19) – born on or after 01.01.2000 Junior (Under 16.5) – born on or after 01.06.2002 Under 15 – born on or after 01.01.2004
The change to the age requirements mean that all the players who won the minor All-Ireland this year will be eligible to play this year and the next two years as well. Seems a bit mad.
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Post by lad on Sept 21, 2018 9:35:14 GMT
The change to under 19 will definitely suit the schools in which TY is compulsory or where a large number complete TY but at least it means players won't be pulled from all angles and can concentrate on their school's football and not have to balance with club and Kerry minor commitments. The Sem had a comfortable enough campaign in winning the Frewen Cup last year but now the gap between the Frewen and Corn Uí Mhúirí is 2 1/2 years so it won't be as good as an indicator as previously. Don't know how many of last year's panel PCD have left and the Green have been making good progress over the last few years so hard to look past any of these 3, along with Flannan's as potential winners.
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 23, 2018 17:11:24 GMT
Big win by PSCD - 2 points and a score difference of +14 has them off to a great start.
3 of the 5 Kerry teams are in Group D (only 2 to advance) while the Green in Tralee are in a 3 school group so won't be in action until 3 weeks time.
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 24, 2018 14:38:32 GMT
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 24, 2018 14:42:21 GMT
Only Result I Could find from today's games.
Colaiste Choilm Ballincollig: 3-10(19) High School Clonmel: 0-8(8)
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Post by yellowbelly on Oct 24, 2018 14:56:43 GMT
The Sem 2-10 ISK 0-07 Killorglin were up 7 points to 1 at half time
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Oct 24, 2018 15:36:11 GMT
Last year a good few top teams had 3rd years who were u16 at the time playing. It seems very young.
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Post by peanuts on Oct 24, 2018 15:51:18 GMT
I think its only one more year they have. According to your first post on the thread it says 'Senior (Under 19) – born on or after 01.01.2000' . This years minor team would have been born in 2001 (I feel old but that's another story). It seems like the under 19 relates to the end of the competition rather than the start. A bit confusing!
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 24, 2018 17:02:33 GMT
I think its only one more year they have. According to your first post on the thread it says 'Senior (Under 19) – born on or after 01.01.2000' . This years minor team would have been born in 2001 (I feel old but that's another story). It seems like the under 19 relates to the end of the competition rather than the start. A bit confusing! Yeah it seems like the schools define things differently to the club and county. Weird The definition for U17 this year was "born on or after 01.01.2001" which is only one year different to the school's U19 competition. When I saw the age change was going from eighteen and a half to nineteen and minor was going from under 18 to under 17, I just assumed that there was 2 years between them, but it looks like there isn't. Good news for PCSD. Other results from today Clonakilty beat Mounthawk 2-11 to 1-11, so not the result Mounthawk will have wanted but only one score in it and not much damage done to their score difference. Still have the Sem and ISK to play to turn things around. St Brendan's College beat ISK 2-10 to 0-7 - seems like a mad one based on the tweet below. Hard to figure what sort of contenders either team will be but you could see this being a bit of a damaging result for the ISK lads. A game of two halves if ever there was one. Sem 0-1 ISK 0-7 in the first half. Sem 2-9 ISK 0-0 in the second half. Was there freak winds at Farranfore or something?
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 24, 2018 17:33:04 GMT
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 24, 2018 17:35:22 GMT
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Post by himself on Oct 24, 2018 19:22:07 GMT
No freak wind in Farranfore. Sem were totally outclassed in the first half. Jigged things around at half-time,Darragh Fleming made a big difference, but the loss of David Mangan to injury at the start of the half was crucial - he had been awesome for Killorglin at centre back.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 12, 2018 19:24:12 GMT
6 games this week that will go a long way to sorting things out
Wednesday 14th November 2018
St. Francis College Rochestown(---)v(---)Tralee CBS Corn Ui Mhuiri Group A (19 A F) Round 2 Naomh Aban 1:30 PM
Coláiste Choilm Ballincollig(---)v(---)St. Flannans College Ennis Corn Ui Mhuiri Group B (19 A F) Round 2 Knocklong 1:30 PM
P.S Chorcha Dhuibhne(---)v(---)De La Salle College Macroom Corn Ui Mhuiri Group C (19 A F) Round 2 Dr Crokes 1:30 PM
St Brendans Killarney(---)v(---)Clonakilty Community College Corn Ui Mhuiri Group D (19 A F) Round 2 Millstreet 1:00 PM
Mercy Mounthawk(---)v(---)I.S. Killorglin Corn Ui Mhuiri Group D (19 A F) Round 2 Farranfore (Firies) 1:30 PM
Friday 16th Nov 2018 Árdscoil Uí Urmaltaigh Bandon(---)v(---)Skibbereen Community School Corn Ui Mhuiri Group C (19 A F) Round 2 11:00 AM
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 14, 2018 21:42:10 GMT
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 23, 2018 16:51:15 GMT
Sem 4-16 Clonakilty 0-5 in the game that was cancelled from last week.
Paul O'Shea "different class" according to Mort Murphy's tweet. Scored 1-7 and created the other 3 goals.
Mathematically it's still all to play for in this group as no team is guaranteed to go through yet and all 4 still have the chance to progress (although it's most likely the Sem will go through with one of Mounthawk or Clon)
Remaining fixtures are Sem v Mounthawk and ISK v Clon next Wed. Mounthawk and Clon both on 2 points but Mounthawk's score difference is +19 whereas Clon's is -20.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 24, 2018 2:08:43 GMT
Sem 4-16 Clonakilty 0-5 in the game that was cancelled from last week. Paul O'Shea "different class" according to Mort Murphy's tweet. Scored 1-7 and created the other 3 goals. Mathematically it's still all to play for in this group as no team is guaranteed to go through yet and all 4 still have the chance to progress (although it's most likely the Sem will go through with one of Mounthawk or Clon) Remaining fixtures are Sem v Mounthawk and ISK v Clon next Wed. Mounthawk and Clon both on 2 points but Mounthawk's score difference is +19 whereas Clon's is -20. So Paul beat them well on his own (4-7 to 5) while they just about won without him (9 pts to 5) - amazing stuff. How does Paul compare to Clifford or Mark O'Connor? Is he strong enough for the big stuff?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Nov 24, 2018 12:38:03 GMT
Sem 4-16 Clonakilty 0-5 in the game that was cancelled from last week. Paul O'Shea "different class" according to Mort Murphy's tweet. Scored 1-7 and created the other 3 goals. Mathematically it's still all to play for in this group as no team is guaranteed to go through yet and all 4 still have the chance to progress (although it's most likely the Sem will go through with one of Mounthawk or Clon) Remaining fixtures are Sem v Mounthawk and ISK v Clon next Wed. Mounthawk and Clon both on 2 points but Mounthawk's score difference is +19 whereas Clon's is -20. So Paul beat them well on his own (4-7 to 5) while they just about won without him (9 pts to 5) - amazing stuff. How does Paul compare to Clifford or Mark O'Connor? Is he strong enough for the big stuff? From what I've seen of him is in the top 5 minors of the 5 in a row. While I wouldn't put him on a level with Mark O'Connor or David Clifford, I'd say would be around Sean O'Shea's level. Obviously we'll have to see how he progresses. Is it true that he has been called into the Senior Panel?
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Post by southward on Nov 24, 2018 13:12:08 GMT
So Paul beat them well on his own (4-7 to 5) while they just about won without him (9 pts to 5) - amazing stuff. How does Paul compare to Clifford or Mark O'Connor? Is he strong enough for the big stuff? From what I've seen of him is in the top 5 minors of the 5 in a row. While I wouldn't put him on a level with Mark O'Connor or David Clifford, I'd say would be around Sean O'Shea's level. Obviously we'll have to see how he progresses. Is it true that he has been called into the Senior Panel? In the same year he was under-17? - I seriously doubt it. Not sure it would be allowed anyway. Lovely player though and one for the future, certainly.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 26, 2018 21:31:01 GMT
Last of the group games this week. No venues on the Munster GAA PPS website for the Tralee CBS v Chriost Ri, or the Mounthawk v Sem games yet.
Tomorrow Tralee CBS v Colaiste Chriost Ri Corn Ui Mhuiri Group A (19 A F) Round 3 1:00 PM
Wednesday St. Flannans College Ennis v High School Clonmel Corn Ui Mhuiri Group B (19 A F) Round 3 Cappamore 1:30 PM
Árdscoil Uí Urmaltaigh Bandon v P.S Chorcha Dhuibhne Corn Ui Mhuiri Group C (19 A F) Round 3 Dr Crokes 1:30 PM
Skibbereen Community School v De La Salle College Macroom Corn Ui Mhuiri Group C (19 A F) Round 3 Newcestown 1:30 PM
Mercy Mounthawk v St Brendans Killarney Corn Ui Mhuiri Group D (19 A F) Round 3 1:30 PM
I.S. Killorglin v Clonakilty Community College Corn Ui Mhuiri Group D (19 A F) Round 3 Naomh Aban 1:30 PM
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 27, 2018 20:47:38 GMT
Good result for the Green today.
Tralee CBS(1-16) v (0-7)Colaiste Chriost Ri
This means they go through as the runner-up in Group A (along with group winners Rochestown)
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 28, 2018 9:49:23 GMT
Great win by Causeway in the resent Munster hurling final. Also good to see the Green going well in senior hurling, even thouhg it's in the ''E'' grade it's still good to have as many young players playing at schools level
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 28, 2018 13:28:35 GMT
Do the Tralee schools not have many students from the hurling areas?
A know some of the areas are quite far from Tralee but I thought some of them were close enough, e.g. Ardfert.
I suppose perhaps they aren't there in large enough numbers.
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 28, 2018 20:06:29 GMT
Do the Tralee schools not have many students from the hurling areas? A know some of the areas are quite far from Tralee but I thought some of them were close enough, e.g. Ardfert. I suppose perhaps they aren't there in large enough numbers. The Green and Mounthawk would have quite a lot from Ardfert and even Kilmoyley. Be a few from Ballyheigue in both as well. With Tralee Parnells as well there would be a lot of fellas from places like Ballymac, Castleisland etc and obviously Tralee itself. The Green and Mounthawk along with the Gaelcholaiste have been playing in Munster with the last few years
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 28, 2018 21:21:09 GMT
3 of the 4 Corn Ui Mhuri games were cancelled today. Flannans beat Clonmel 6-12 to 1-8.
It means Flannans go through as group winners and Ballincollig as runners-up.
Flannans scored 10-24 in their 2 games, so would look to be among the favourites,
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Post by onlykerry on Nov 29, 2018 13:37:41 GMT
Do the Tralee schools not have many students from the hurling areas? A know some of the areas are quite far from Tralee but I thought some of them were close enough, e.g. Ardfert. I suppose perhaps they aren't there in large enough numbers. The Green and Mounthawk would have quite a lot from Ardfert and even Kilmoyley. Be a few from Ballyheigue in both as well. With Tralee Parnells as well there would be a lot of fellas from places like Ballymac, Castleisland etc and obviously Tralee itself. The Green and Mounthawk along with the Gaelcholaiste have been playing in Munster with the last few years Has the emergence of Mounthawk weakened the Green in recent years - both have similar numbers of males but it means the traditional Green player pool is halved.
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Post by greenmen55 on Nov 29, 2018 18:41:08 GMT
The Green and Mounthawk would have quite a lot from Ardfert and even Kilmoyley. Be a few from Ballyheigue in both as well. With Tralee Parnells as well there would be a lot of fellas from places like Ballymac, Castleisland etc and obviously Tralee itself. The Green and Mounthawk along with the Gaelcholaiste have been playing in Munster with the last few years Has the emergence of Mounthawk weakened the Green in recent years - both have similar numbers of males but it means the traditional Green player pool is halved. Emergence? Have mounthawk won anything or gone further than the green in any competition in recent years?? Especially the corn ui Mhuirí. I’m sure The green would still fancy themselves as the dominant football force in Tralee. Albeit them being the best in recent years the football pull the school once had has definitely weakened...
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Post by himself on Nov 29, 2018 18:43:41 GMT
Hurlingman, I completely agree about the fantastic achievement of Causeway CC and John Joe Delaney. Kudos to Mounthawk as well. Most people focus on the Corn ui Mhuiri in post primary, but there is far more than that going on. Rathmore beat both the Green and the Sem on the O'Sullivan Cup. Kenmare won the Dunloe Cup, beating ISK in the final. ISK were also unlucky to lose to a great Rochestown side in the Munster U16.5 A final. Kenmare manager Tom O'Connor is justifiably a Kerry legend. Colaiste na Sceilge won the Munster U16.5 B final. These are big a achievements and will have an impact on Kerrys future. The presence of Mounthawk and Gaelcholaiste has certainly reduced the Greens pick, but the Green have still been there or thereabouts for the past number of years. Marc, Mike Tim, Fergus Clifgord et al are doing a great job, as is Aidan O'Shea at Mounthawk (delighted to see him in with the Kerry minors). Bally, I respect your opinion, but the idea of Paul O'Shea on with next year's seniors is directly equivalent to the idea of a U14 in with next year's minors. For that matter, I firmly believe that if David Clifford and Sean O'Shea had played at their own grade, we would have won a U20, which would have been far more beneficial. Apologies for the long post!
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 29, 2018 21:14:39 GMT
For sure, and he would probably be the new senior manager now. Also may have won the previous year with MOC on board at midfield................. However there is a new freshness about the whole thing with PK on board now.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 29, 2018 22:08:44 GMT
Wednesday December 5th St. Fachtnas Skibbereen v De La Salle College Macroom at 1:30pm – Venue TBC
Friday December 7th Mercy Mounthawk v St Brendans Killarney at 1:30pm – Venue TBC
Tuesday December 11th Árdscoil Uí Urmaltaigh Bandon v P.S Chorcha Dhuibhne at 1:30pm – Venue TBC I.S. Killorglin v Clonakilty Community College at 1:30pm – Venue TBC
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Post by onlykerry on Nov 30, 2018 11:17:24 GMT
Has the emergence of Mounthawk weakened the Green in recent years - both have similar numbers of males but it means the traditional Green player pool is halved. Emergence? Have mounthawk won anything or gone further than the green in any competition in recent years?? Especially the corn ui Mhuirí. I’m sure The green would still fancy themselves as the dominant football force in Tralee. Albeit them being the best in recent years the football pull the school once had has definitely weakened... Your concept of emergence is somewhat narrow if you only think of it in terms of winning trophies. 20 years ago 90%+ of the males in the greater Tralee area went to the Green. Now they are split more or less evenly accross two schools. Emergence has seen Mounthawk progress from B (or lower) grades to A grade competitions in the past five years suggesting the calibre of player has improved and this can only be at the Green's expense. Yes the Green would see themselves as the superior force and have progressed further in most competitions. P.S. Mounthawk players have collected 4/5? AI medals with the successful Kerry minor teams of recent years. Imagine if the Green had these players in the ranks.
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