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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 8, 2018 11:03:43 GMT
Yes Jigz84 Bookies have Diarmuid Murphy 7/4 Favourite Strong inside information coming out that he is already put in place, this is crazy if true. There is no smoke...... Tony Leen reported that Diarmuid was a strong contender when he ran his story on Eamonn Fitzmaurice last Sunday in the Irish Examiner. Eamonn himself is on record that he expected Diarmuid Murphy to be Bainisteoir in due time and it sounded even then like this is next man up. So is the due process now just a rigmarole for the clubs and joe public as they arrive at a decision they've already in truth made?
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Post by southward on Aug 8, 2018 11:38:41 GMT
Yes Jigz84 Bookies have Diarmuid Murphy 7/4 Favourite Strong inside information coming out that he is already put in place, this is crazy if true. There is no smoke...... Tony Leen reported that Diarmuid was a strong contender when he ran his story on Eamonn Fitzmaurice last Sunday in the Irish Examiner. Eamonn himself is on record that he expected Diarmuid Murphy to be Bainisteoir in due time and it sounded even then like this is next man up. So is the due process now just a rigmarole for the clubs and joe public as they arrive at a decision they've already in truth made? They'll surely not decide without seeing the outcome of our poll above
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Post by keane on Aug 8, 2018 11:43:13 GMT
What does Murphy work at?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 11:48:15 GMT
The one big blot on his CV is Laois. Apart from that he has been very impressive. Laois 2006Came top of Division 1B (Galway, Derry, Down, Kildare, Armagh, Meath, Wexford) of the league before losing to Kerry in the semi final. Beaten well by Dublin in Leinster. A Dublin side that were beaten by Mayo in a classic semi final. Laois went on to beat All Ireland champions Tyrone in the qualifiers. They beat Meath in the next round and then beat Offaly who lost the Leinster final to Dublin. Lost to Mayo by three points, who would go on to beat Dublin before being "Gooched" in the final. Laois 2007Stayed in Division 1 by coming mid table in Division 1B (Galway, Kildare, Derry, Westmeath, Armagh, Louth, Down). Laois get to the Leinster final where they lose to Dublin. Beaten by four points by Derry in their R4 qualifier. Laois 2008Finish bottom of Division 1B. Lose to Wexford in the LSF. They beat Longford in the qualifiers before losing to Down. Not an amazing record but then again he was only learning the ropes: it was ten years ago. The question might be has he learnt enough in the ten years since? If very much looks likes he has given his record with Tipp. You'd wonder what more he has to do really to get a crack at the Kerry job.
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Post by john4 on Aug 8, 2018 12:51:31 GMT
Going by terrace talk the last evening, Tim, Liam, and Dinny were in general of the opinion that Donie Buckley could have a big say in who the next manager is, in so far as whatever fella, be it Peter Keane or Pat O'Shea or whoever can, when they meet the selection committee be able to tell them that they have a commitment from Donie that he would work with him as manager. It's considered a candidate will have to have this nailed down first
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Post by Fado on Aug 8, 2018 13:22:35 GMT
I'm inclined to agree with them, hopefully it will come to pass.
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Post by tonydorigo on Aug 8, 2018 13:35:46 GMT
Donie Buckley should be a priority given the regard he is held in within and without the county. Whether he would work with Pat O'Shea or Peter Keane would be the next question (doubtful he will work with Jack). Will Peter want to bring Tommy Griffin with him though?
Diarmuid Murphy is reputed to be in the running but I wouldn't know much about his pedigree beyond working as a selector before. Can anyone elaborate on other experience that he has?
Bringing in a proper S&C training to oversee all athletic development from minor through to senior would be a good idea. I know Joe O'Connor is there but how much is he contributing if he is working with Limerick hurlers? This would also help ease the transition for players through to senior by getting them physically prepared for inter county football. We have plenty of talented footballers but need to get them up to speed athletically to compete. The work that Galway have done with Lukasz Kirszenstein has brought their hurlers to another level physically so something similar would tie in nicely with relocation to Currans and all Kerry teams working out of one facility.
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Post by An Bradán on Aug 8, 2018 14:05:43 GMT
I'll back the management team that can define who we are...are we an attacking team, counterattacking, defensive or what the hell are we. We need a clearly identifiable style that we can all buy into.
For what it's worth I think we've been best this year when we throw off the chains and go eyeballs out for the win. e.g. Cork, second half Kildare/Monaghan. I realise we conceded too but there can be a balance.
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Post by dabomber on Aug 8, 2018 18:26:09 GMT
What does Murphy work at? As far a I know he's a manager in the AXA insurance branch in Killarney
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 8, 2018 18:31:25 GMT
I'll back the management team that can define who we are...are we an attacking team, counterattacking, defensive or what the hell are we. We need a clearly identifiable style that we can all buy into. For what it's worth I think we've been best this year when we throw off the chains and go eyeballs out for the win. e.g. Cork, second half Kildare/Monaghan.I realise we conceded too but there can be a balance. I despair when i read post such as this...while having regard to everyone's right to their opinion etc
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 8, 2018 18:59:57 GMT
I'll back the management team that can define who we are...are we an attacking team, counterattacking, defensive or what the hell are we. We need a clearly identifiable style that we can all buy into. For what it's worth I think we've been best this year when we throw off the chains and go eyeballs out for the win. e.g. Cork, second half Kildare/Monaghan.I realise we conceded too but there can be a balance. I despair when i read post such as this...while having regard to everyone's right to their opinion etc I don't understand what is wrong with the post. To me, it says that Kerry do better when they go out to attack rather than not lose. A manager who would put a positive, attacking style together would be Liam Kearns.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 8, 2018 19:46:38 GMT
Cork were a total shambles. No kickout strategy and no courage or fight. Best player black carded. Kildare in the second half just gave up when down to 14 men.
Monaghan bossed the second half apart from a desperation period in the last 5 mins by Kerry.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 8, 2018 19:52:23 GMT
Cork were a total shambles. No kickout strategy and no courage or fight. Best player black carded. Kildare in the second half just gave up when down to 14 men. Monaghan bossed the second half apart from a desperation period in the last 5 mins by Kerry. OK fair enough. However how would you compare Kerry's approach in the Galway game with their approach against Dublin in the League?
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 9, 2018 8:24:05 GMT
I dont know what you mean exactly by approach.
The memory is a bit unclear now of the league game. I recall being impressed by the understanding between Shane Murphy and Peter Crowley at kickouts. Crowley if i recall correctly acted as a sweeper...and Kerry were on top for 20 mins but very wasteful upfront. Dublin bullied Kerry out of it then and Barry o Sullivan, Geaney and oShea were gone for second half so that was curtains.
Speaking of Barry o Sullivan it still amazes me that he wasnt introduced in the Munster final ahead of BJK and Darren etc. We didnt need more scores at that point...we needed to give the likes of him experience. He was very good for UCD and seemed to have a good understanding with Jack Barry.
Every meeting of provincials champs in super 8 is going to be like the Kerry v Galway game for as long as they will meet in the first game. In other words...a tactical chessgame. So we might as well get used to it. Avoiding defeat will be key.
My only complaint after that was that Killians unnecessary red handed the initiative to Galway. A draw in that game would have been grand. They might have got it with 15 men so i wont be critical of the defensive approach.
EF seemed to panic then v Monaghan by dropping Shane and going man to man. Monaghan should have won by 6 points but they dont have enough quality forwards to turn possession into scores.
The new man will have to ensure that Kerry get enough of the ball from their own restarts and there has to be a defensive approach that is coherent and players are comfortable with. Codys KK in 2018 were not able to rack up big scores but were they able to defend!.
I am optimistic about the future as i dont believe what needs correcting is that difficult. Monaghans problems are more acute...trying to find more quality forwards. We have that.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 9, 2018 8:52:17 GMT
I dont know what you mean exactly by approach. The memory is a bit unclear now of the league game. I recall being impressed by the understanding between Shane Murphy and Peter Crowley at kickouts. Crowley if i recall correctly acted as a sweeper...and Kerry were on top for 20 mins but very wasteful upfront. Dublin bullied Kerry out of it then and Barry o Sullivan, Geaney and oShea were gone for second half so that was curtains. Speaking of Barry o Sullivan it still amazes me that he wasnt introduced in the Munster final ahead of BJK and Darren etc. We didnt need more scores at that point...we needed to give the likes of him experience. He was very good for UCD and seemed to have a good understanding with Jack Barry. Every meeting of provincials champs in super 8 is going to be like the Kerry v Galway game for as long as they will meet in the first game. In other words...a tactical chessgame. So we might as well get used to it. Avoiding defeat will be key. My only complaint after that was that Killians unnecessary red handed the initiative to Galway. A draw in that game would have been grand. They might have got it with 15 men so i wont be critical of the defensive approach. EF seemed to panic then v Monaghan by dropping Shane and going man to man. Monaghan should have won by 6 points but they dont have enough quality forwards to turn possession into scores. The new man will have to ensure that Kerry get enough of the ball from their own restarts and there has to be a defensive approach that is coherent and players are comfortable with. Codys KK in 2018 were not able to rack up big scores but were they able to defend!. I am optimistic about the future as i dont believe what needs correcting is that difficult. Monaghans problems are more acute...trying to find more quality forwards. We have that. By approach I mean going out to play positively and attack, as we did against Dublin, or go out negatively in an attempt not to lose, as we did against Galway. It is not lost on me that we lost to Dublin but we also lost to Galway.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 9, 2018 8:59:16 GMT
Overall this year was a success - we introduced a raft of new talent, brought pace and energy (when allowed) to our game and have laid the foundations for a brighter future. Glaring issues remain with kick out strategy and tackling the two that when sorted will pay huge dividends.
The Munster campaign raised the level of expectation to an unsustainable level but it does give us a glimpse of what is to come.
Fitz has steered Kerry through a difficult time and his innate conservatism was both an asset and a liability in this regard - he was a steady hand and a great servant to the Kerry cause and for that we all owe him our appreciation. Possibly his biggest failing was a loyalty to the old guard and he does not stand alone in this as the great Micko was accused of a similar blindness in his latter years.
Going forward we need a manager who can build on what we have, take a few risks and be more aware of how the game is developing. The kick out and tackle must be major priorities and bring more controlled intensity to our game - I am optimistic that we will be regulars in Croke Park over the next ten years with several titles.
Rather than list names of candidates, we need to look at what qualities Kerry require in a manager to succeed and then look at who meets those characteristics. We need a mamagement team with complimentary skills led by an strong leader.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 9, 2018 9:15:16 GMT
The problem with appointing any manager is you are essentially just crystal ball gazing. Sure he can have a great track record with the minors, done well at club level, done well in the job before or even done well somewhere else.
He can have Donie Buckley, Jim McGuiness and even Mick O'Dwyer as part of his management team but, its no guarantee of success. The mix with the players and between the management has to right. As the mix between the manager and the county board has to be right as well.
We have a wealth of talent coming through or so we have been told repeatedly. We have got 5 or 6 good players already but, who is to say we only get one or two more? Maybe Eamonn Fitz was right to hold Sean O'Shea, Gavin white etc back. Personally based on his performances from play in the super 8's it looks like waiting to five O'Shea his game until this year was the correct decision.
I heard a bit of terrace talk the last night and there was a lot of talk about players needing to play with their clubs more. Sure they have all of August and September beyond to play with the clubs now. I think Martin Horgan is a spoofer of the highest order that hides behinds 'buzzword' and phraseology. However he was right in his point about managing the load for inter county players. Which is a lot harder to do if players are out of the inter county bubble.
Tim Murphy was right the last night when he said appointing the new manager will be the toughest decision made during his term as chair of the county board. Lets hope they get it right.
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Aug 9, 2018 10:31:44 GMT
Overall this year was a success - we introduced a raft of new talent, brought pace and energy (when allowed) to our game and have laid the foundations for a brighter future. Glaring issues remain with kick out strategy and tackling the two that when sorted will pay huge dividends. Successful Year? Foundations set for a brighter future? There’s no denying that there’s 3-4 extremely talented young lads who have made strides this year You say that it was a successful year despite some glaring issues remaining on “kickouts”and “tackling”. If you want to simplify the game down, there’s 3 parts to it. 1. kickouts, 2. tackling and Defending and 3. Attacking and Scoring. We have glaring issues with two of these pillars or foundations to a funactioning team but it was still a successful year. Is the future really that bright? Are we really in a better place now? The form of the cohort of players that are 26-30 on the team Is seriously worrying. Back in 2013 Gooch, Declan, Donaghy, Donacha, Darran, Maher, Killian all fell into that cohort. They were supplemented then by youngsters like James, Geaney, Crowley, Murphy and a more youthful Moran. The youngsters are there now but have the crop above them stagnated. There’s no way that crop of 26-30 year olds could be viewed to be as strong as what was there in 2013. There’s a narrative now that we are in a good place going forward. Are we any better off than what we were in 2013?? It’s open for debate. Personally I’ve no doubt that we’ll win all Ireland’s again but I’m not so sure it’s in the short term. It’ll be 2-3 years before we’re good enough to be at that level again. And even when your at that level you need your share of luck. Geaney, James O, Murphy and the likes will be 30 and over in 3 years time. The youngsters are a breath of fresh air, but there’s serious work and development to be done as a team to get back up to be realistic challengers again
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Post by An Bradán on Aug 9, 2018 12:05:05 GMT
I'll back the management team that can define who we are...are we an attacking team, counterattacking, defensive or what the hell are we. We need a clearly identifiable style that we can all buy into. For what it's worth I think we've been best this year when we throw off the chains and go eyeballs out for the win. e.g. Cork, second half Kildare/Monaghan.I realise we conceded too but there can be a balance. I despair when i read post such as this...while having regard to everyone's right to their opinion etc Pretty patronising Mickmack. What do you think I am advocating here...an u10 approach is it ? We're at our best when we are attacking, defending and competing with high intensity and fierce pace. The ultra cautious approach has never suited us (2014 final apart and we were poxy lucky that day too). The slow, cautious, lateral game with players dropping deep has lead to disappointing performances and results.Either it is not set up correctly or players fail to implement it. Whereas when we've gone for it in both the defensive and attacking sense we've been more convincing and effective. The high press on kick-outs is a great example of agressive, attacking football rather than passively letting the opposition have it. The days of "slug ball" are well gone. Changes to the game and coaching thought have thankfully seen the end of that slow ultra cautious game. Effective teams in all sports must show a willingness to attack and defend with huge pace and intensity. It's hugely demanding and carries risk but this is the model for virtually every dominant team in every major sport in the world. That mickmack is attacking football to me. That is coincidentally where our panels strengths actually lay. Play to your strengths. Play without fear, play with adventure and higher risk or play with fear and lose anyway.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 9, 2018 12:45:46 GMT
Overall this year was a success - we introduced a raft of new talent, brought pace and energy (when allowed) to our game and have laid the foundations for a brighter future. Glaring issues remain with kick out strategy and tackling the two that when sorted will pay huge dividends. Successful Year? Foundations set for a brighter future? There’s no denying that there’s 3-4 extremely talented young lads who have made strides this year You say that it was a successful year despite some glaring issues remaining on “kickouts”and “tackling”. If you want to simplify the game down, there’s 3 parts to it. 1. kickouts, 2. tackling and Defending and 3. Attacking and Scoring. We have glaring issues with two of these pillars or foundations to a funactioning team but it was still a successful year. Is the future really that bright? Are we really in a better place now? The form of the cohort of players that are 26-30 on the team Is seriously worrying. Back in 2013 Gooch, Declan, Donaghy, Donacha, Darran, Maher, Killian all fell into that cohort. They were supplemented then by youngsters like James, Geaney, Crowley, Murphy and a more youthful Moran. The youngsters are there now but have the crop above them stagnated. There’s no way that crop of 26-30 year olds could be viewed to be as strong as what was there in 2013. There’s a narrative now that we are in a good place going forward. Are we any better off than what we were in 2013?? It’s open for debate. Personally I’ve no doubt that we’ll win all Ireland’s again but I’m not so sure it’s in the short term. It’ll be 2-3 years before we’re good enough to be at that level again. And even when your at that level you need your share of luck. Geaney, James O, Murphy and the likes will be 30 and over in 3 years time. The youngsters are a breath of fresh air, but there’s serious work and development to be done as a team to get back up to be realistic challengers again Maybe I am chewing more "happy pills" than you but I believe we are in a better place now that we were this time last year - in addition we have achieved a number of the ambitions we listed at the begining of 2018 when we were all seriously downbeat about the year ahead. We have Maintained D1 status Reached the Super 8 phase Blooded new talent (7 Newcomers to Championship football alone) A new Management team in the pipeline My happyness is relative and based on what I perceive to be progress and a solid base to build on - I can list plenty of negatives (and like any Kerryman, the winter without Sam is chief among them) but I think we need to recognise our deficiencies (which are plentyfull and well documented) but build on our positives and support our team to the best of our ability. When you are playing a team and you see them taking skelps off one another you know they are a beaten ticket and the current mood amongst Kerry supporters reminds me too much of this scenario.
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Post by dc84 on Aug 9, 2018 12:52:19 GMT
The problem with appointing any manager is you are essentially just crystal ball gazing. Sure he can have a great track record with the minors, done well at club level, done well in the job before or even done well somewhere else. He can have Donie Buckley, Jim McGuiness and even Mick O'Dwyer as part of his management team but, its no guarantee of success. The mix with the players and between the management has to right. As the mix between the manager and the county board has to be right as well. We have a wealth of talent coming through or so we have been told repeatedly. We have got 5 or 6 good players already but, who is to say we only get one or two more? Maybe Eamonn Fitz was right to hold Sean O'Shea, Gavin white etc back. Personally based on his performances from play in the super 8's it looks like waiting to five O'Shea his game until this year was the correct decision. I heard a bit of terrace talk the last night and there was a lot of talk about players needing to play with their clubs more. Sure they have all of August and September beyond to play with the clubs now. I think Martin Horgan is a spoofer of the highest order that hides behinds 'buzzword' and phraseology. However he was right in his point about managing the load for inter county players. Which is a lot harder to do if players are out of the inter county bubble. Tim Murphy was right the last night when he said appointing the new manager will be the toughest decision made during his term as chair of the county board. Lets hope they get it right. Fair point on o shea the issue id have with that is if he wasnt ready why wasnt He released to play for his district in the u21 final last year its nonsense like that, that drives people mad.surely that wouldve been more benefical than a few splinters in his arse?
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Post by john4 on Aug 9, 2018 14:27:11 GMT
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Aug 9, 2018 14:30:10 GMT
OnlyKerry
That’s fair enough, your probably more of an optimist than me. What’s a little unsettling though is that theres a narrative out there that the management team have left us with a team that’s in a great position, the future is very bright and so on. Almost as if it set up for someone to come in and reap all the benefits and just start mopping up all Ireland’s off the back of this management teams work. That isn’t the case at all. There’s an amount of work to be down to get to that level. If the new man comes in and wins an All Ireland in the next two years it will be an excellent achievement.
Also there’s a narrative out there that we are in a better place now as a team than we were at the start of the management teams tenure in 2013. I think that theory could seriously debated. I’d be fairly confident that the team of 2013 would beat our current team
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 9, 2018 14:41:33 GMT
I despair when i read post such as this...while having regard to everyone's right to their opinion etc Pretty patronising Mickmack. What do you think I am advocating here...an u10 approach is it ? We're at our best when we are attacking, defending and competing with high intensity and fierce pace. The ultra cautious approach has never suited us (2014 final apart and we were poxy lucky that day too). The slow, cautious, lateral game with players dropping deep has lead to disappointing performances and results.Either it is not set up correctly or players fail to implement it. Whereas when we've gone for it in both the defensive and attacking sense we've been more convincing and effective. The high press on kick-outs is a great example of agressive, attacking football rather than passively letting the opposition have it. The days of "slug ball" are well gone. Changes to the game and coaching thought have thankfully seen the end of that slow ultra cautious game. Effective teams in all sports must show a willingness to attack and defend with huge pace and intensity. It's hugely demanding and carries risk but this is the model for virtually every dominant team in every major sport in the world. That mickmack is attacking football to me. That is coincidentally where our panels strengths actually lay. Play to your strengths. Play without fear, play with adventure and higher risk or play with fear and lose anyway. didnt mean to patronise... just the thought of drawing inferences from the Cork game (abject would best describe Cork) and a Kildare side with nothing to play for and a man down ....i think Kildare finished with 12 men in the finish.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 9, 2018 17:17:05 GMT
OnlyKerry That’s fair enough, your probably more of an optimist than me. What’s a little unsettling though is that theres a narrative out there that the management team have left us with a team that’s in a great position, the future is very bright and so on. Almost as if it set up for someone to come in and reap all the benefits and just start mopping up all Ireland’s off the back of this management teams work. That isn’t the case at all. There’s an amount of work to be down to get to that level. If the new man comes in and wins an All Ireland in the next two years it will be an excellent achievement. Also there’s a narrative out there that we are in a better place now as a team than we were at the start of the management teams tenure in 2013. I think that theory could seriously debated. I’d be fairly confident that the team of 2013 would beat our current team My optimism is not as a result of any planned work by the outgoing management team - I thank them for their service and stewardship but also for their decision to stand aside and allow a new voice and vision take it from here. For me the optimism springs from our underage success and the glimpses of potential I saw when some of these players hit the senior stage this year. I think we have good raw material and the opportunity to put a progressive management team in place. There is a considerable amount of work to be done but the youthful nature of the squad and the pipeline we have seen of further talent give hope. In 2011/12/13 we had an aging squad with multiple retirements staring us in the face and a dearth of talent coming through.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 9, 2018 20:42:23 GMT
Ricey McMenamin was on Off the Ball roadshow from Galway in the last hour telling stories of the abusive, anonymous letters he received from the same Kerry man over the years.
Some can of worms after being opened up.
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Post by taggert on Aug 9, 2018 20:59:47 GMT
I despair when i read post such as this...while having regard to everyone's right to their opinion etc Pretty patronising Mickmack. What do you think I am advocating here...an u10 approach is it ? We're at our best when we are attacking, defending and competing with high intensity and fierce pace. The ultra cautious approach has never suited us (2014 final apart and we were poxy lucky that day too). The slow, cautious, lateral game with players dropping deep has lead to disappointing performances and results.Either it is not set up correctly or players fail to implement it. Whereas when we've gone for it in both the defensive and attacking sense we've been more convincing and effective. The high press on kick-outs is a great example of agressive, attacking football rather than passively letting the opposition have it. The days of "slug ball" are well gone. Changes to the game and coaching thought have thankfully seen the end of that slow ultra cautious game. Effective teams in all sports must show a willingness to attack and defend with huge pace and intensity. It's hugely demanding and carries risk but this is the model for virtually every dominant team in every major sport in the world. That mickmack is attacking football to me. That is coincidentally where our panels strengths actually lay. Play to your strengths. Play without fear, play with adventure and higher risk or play with fear and lose anyway. I think you may be missing Micks point. That manner of playing may be our strength but TOP teams target opposition strengths and simply dont ALLOW teams play to those strengths. For example: Galway drop 12 behind midfield, Cork dont. Monaghan set up a wall of physical grafters and tacklers behind their midfield, Kildare dont. No serious team will ever allow Kerry play to their strengths as long as they have 15 men on the field. We have to innovate in certain areas (defensive strategy) and replicate (Cluxton/Beggan) in other areas or we will continue to stagnate.
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Post by bishop on Aug 9, 2018 21:08:30 GMT
OnlyKerry That’s fair enough, your probably more of an optimist than me. What’s a little unsettling though is that theres a narrative out there that the management team have left us with a team that’s in a great position, the future is very bright and so on. Almost as if it set up for someone to come in and reap all the benefits and just start mopping up all Ireland’s off the back of this management teams work. That isn’t the case at all. There’s an amount of work to be down to get to that level. If the new man comes in and wins an All Ireland in the next two years it will be an excellent achievement. Also there’s a narrative out there that we are in a better place now as a team than we were at the start of the management teams tenure in 2013. I think that theory could seriously debated. I’d be fairly confident that the team of 2013 would beat our current team Reminds me of Mickey Ned getting shafted from the Kerry minors after doing the donkey work only for Jack to magically swoop in.....
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Post by southward on Aug 9, 2018 22:01:54 GMT
Ricey McMenamin was on Off the Ball roadshow from Galway in the last hour telling stories of the abusive, anonymous letters he received from the same Kerry man over the years. Some can of worms after being opened up. Ricey and abuse were never strangers in fairness.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 9, 2018 22:14:43 GMT
Ricey McMenamin was on Off the Ball roadshow from Galway in the last hour telling stories of the abusive, anonymous letters he received from the same Kerry man over the years. Some can of worms after being opened up. I wouldn't be losing a second sleep over lettergate to be honest. Storm in an egg cup.
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