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Post by kerrygold on Sept 11, 2018 18:46:12 GMT
With Kieran's retirement today any notion Kerry are in transition is now nipped at the bud. Full blown rebuilding is now in progress.............
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 11, 2018 19:39:24 GMT
I didn't come on here to have my integrity questioned, JP. I'm only telling everyone what I saw. Are the freshers getting to you up in UCC or are you always this miserable? Ballymac999 is that you?!
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Sept 11, 2018 22:27:46 GMT
I didn't come on here to have my integrity questioned, JP. I'm only telling everyone what I saw. Are the freshers getting to you up in UCC or are you always this miserable? Ballymac999 is that you?! What's the story with this Ballymac fella? I've seen him mentioned before but never seen his posts.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 12, 2018 5:34:00 GMT
Ballymac999 is that you?! What's the story with this Ballymac fella? I've seen him mentioned before but never seen his posts. He was a cut above in the piss-taking stakes. Maybe around five years ago and got banned.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 12, 2018 9:27:13 GMT
Any rumours of white smoke emerging here lads?
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Post by dc84 on Sept 12, 2018 17:14:39 GMT
Id say its done already be surprised if it wasnt p. Keane at this stage probably need to nail down the backroom team. Once JOC pulled out i figured there was to be no competition
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Post by Fado on Sept 12, 2018 19:19:13 GMT
The screen is still up.
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Post by Deise Exile on Sept 13, 2018 21:44:34 GMT
Could k donaghy figure in new backroom team?
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Post by Fado on Sept 13, 2018 21:52:27 GMT
"Id say its done already be surprised if it wasnt p. Keane at this stage probably need to nail down the backroom team. Once JOC pulled out i figured there was to be no competition"
JOC pulled out?
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Post by dc84 on Sept 14, 2018 7:12:33 GMT
"Id say its done already be surprised if it wasnt p. Keane at this stage probably need to nail down the backroom team. Once JOC pulled out i figured there was to be no competition" JOC pulled out? Ok bad phrasing!, once Jack o connor said he wasnt in the reckoning/didnt want the job
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Post by dc84 on Sept 14, 2018 7:14:21 GMT
Could k donaghy figure in new backroom team? Too soon for Kieran he should take a couple years with the club and then him and gooch take the minors!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 14, 2018 8:03:12 GMT
Could k donaghy figure in new backroom team? Too soon for Kieran he should take a couple years with the club and then him and gooch take the minors! Needs a clean break and said he needs a rest, the sooner he moves away the sooner he will be back though management is a different kettle of fish, he is amazing at rallying the troops and it is clear from his book that he is equally gifted emotionally. Still I don't go along with his 'lucky hoor' crack, I'd contend that 'the harder you try the luckier you get' ya hoor ya!
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Post by dc84 on Sept 14, 2018 8:32:22 GMT
Too soon for Kieran he should take a couple years with the club and then him and gooch take the minors! Needs a clean break and said he needs a rest, the sooner he moves away the sooner he will be back though management is a different kettle of fish, he is amazing at rallying the troops and it is clear from his book that he is equally gifted emotionally. Still I don't go along with his 'lucky hoor' crack, I'd contend that 'the harder you try the luckier you get' ya hoor ya! Totally agree the goals in 07 and 14 finals were not flukes he worked hard at that side.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 14, 2018 8:34:58 GMT
Whoever the manager is he will have to radically shake up our defence. Midfield also requires new blood.
On field leadership is another area where we will have to improve especially now with Donaghy gone.
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Post by dc84 on Sept 14, 2018 9:51:00 GMT
Whoever the manager is he will have to radically shake up our defence. Midfield also requires new blood. On field leadership is another area where we will have to improve especially now with Donaghy gone. Not so sure it will have to be that radical tbh think fitzy made a good start. Foley tom sullivan and white were great additions and will surely improve, morley was a loss also. Mf is a tougher one and probably requires more of an overhaul coupled with the make up of the hf line that and kickouts are the big challenges imo
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 14, 2018 9:56:21 GMT
Which 3-4 minors from the last 5 minor teams are going to come through at midfield?
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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 14, 2018 10:24:52 GMT
Whoever the manager is he will have to radically shake up our defence. Midfield also requires new blood. On field leadership is another area where we will have to improve especially now with Donaghy gone. Not so sure it will have to be that radical tbh think fitzy made a good start. Foley tom sullivan and white were great additions and will surely improve, morley was a loss also. Mf is a tougher one and probably requires more of an overhaul coupled with the make up of the hf line that and kickouts are the big challenges imo Yes agree that White, Sullivan and Foley are great prospects but they are not proven yet and I think we need to look at bringing in a few more. We need to establish best positions for these players, if you like be more radical in positioning - is Foley really a full back or corner back - I wouldn’t mind seeing him out the wing? Give Griffin a go at centre back, bring in a new full back. Have we got two man marking defenders in the moukd of McCarthy and Tom Sull ?
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Post by dc84 on Sept 14, 2018 11:22:49 GMT
Not so sure it will have to be that radical tbh think fitzy made a good start. Foley tom sullivan and white were great additions and will surely improve, morley was a loss also. Mf is a tougher one and probably requires more of an overhaul coupled with the make up of the hf line that and kickouts are the big challenges imo Yes agree that White, Sullivan and Foley are great prospects but they are not proven yet and I think we need to look at bringing in a few more. We need to establish best positions for these players, if you like be more radical in positioning - is Foley really a full back or corner back - I wouldn’t mind seeing him out the wing? Give Griffin a go at centre back, bring in a new full back. Have we got two man marking defenders in the moukd of McCarthy and Tom Sull ? Probably not yet tbf them two and marc were class. I think you have to adaptable now esp in fb line we need two men there who can play fb. Id have morley back there, hb line is a tougher task white and murphy are class but not sure you can play the two of them as they are small enough obvisously we need to blood more lads but the base isnt as bad as people make out. Gavin crowley, griffen, peter crowley add more physical presence as does enright its all about balance. I hope we never see a hb line of murphy,young and white again all good players but avg weight of about 11 stone crazy stuff!
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Post by derry4sam on Sept 14, 2018 14:26:20 GMT
I think we're mad to pigeon hole fellas to certain positions in Kerry. Surely it's time to develop some sort of defensive system/structure whether that involve a sweeper or some other methods/ideas. We also need to encourage the players to be as versatile as possible and comfortable in a number of positions like you see with the Dubs and even Tyrone this year.
This obsession with finding a full back in the traditional sense, I think those days are gone to be fair. It's all about getting the match ups right and having a plan to nullify the opposition on the day. Not just go out there and beat your man. Having players that are comfortable in playing a couple of positions and able to react to how a game is unfolding is key. Too many times during Fitzmaurice's tenure and even before that if Kerry's plan A goes out the window the players look completely bemused out on the field.
I think what we need to see in the early league games is a blueprint of what the system will be going forward and hope that people will give them the time and space to work and ultimately improve at implementing it.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Sept 14, 2018 16:03:01 GMT
Munster Football Development – Pat O’Shea (Kerry) has been appointed Games Development Manager with responsibility for Football Development. Pat will work with the six Munster counties on the development of Gaelic Football including development squads, club coaching, school structures etc. In addition, Joe Carton (Waterford) has been appointed Games Development Manager with responsibility for Hurling Development. Would that rule him out? www.gaa.ie/news-archive/news/munster-shc-to-begin-a-week-earlier-in-2019/
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Sept 14, 2018 16:15:31 GMT
Was told today that Peter Keane, Seamus Moynihan & Diarmuid Murphy are the new kerry management team.
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Post by dc84 on Sept 14, 2018 16:30:54 GMT
Was told today that Peter Keane, Seamus Moynihan & Diarmuid Murphy are the new kerry management team. I think most of us would be happy with that!
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Post by veteran on Sept 14, 2018 19:10:13 GMT
Was told today that Peter Keane, Seamus Moynihan & Diarmuid Murphy are the new kerry management team. I wonder will Donie Buckley’s expertise be used?
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Post by pillar on Sept 14, 2018 20:25:53 GMT
Was told today that Peter Keane, Seamus Moynihan & Diarmuid Murphy are the new kerry management team. Unless twas Tim Murphy told you I wouldn't be too sure of that..although I'd venture you've the main man right!!
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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 14, 2018 22:09:59 GMT
I was wondering if Moynihan would be mentioned at some stage.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 14, 2018 22:15:38 GMT
I think we're mad to pigeon hole fellas to certain positions in Kerry. Surely it's time to develop some sort of defensive system/structure whether that involve a sweeper or some other methods/ideas. We also need to encourage the players to be as versatile as possible and comfortable in a number of positions like you see with the Dubs and even Tyrone this year. This obsession with finding a full back in the traditional sense, I think those days are gone to be fair. It's all about getting the match ups right and having a plan to nullify the opposition on the day. Not just go out there and beat your man. Having players that are comfortable in playing a couple of positions and able to react to how a game is unfolding is key. Too many times during Fitzmaurice's tenure and even before that if Kerry's plan A goes out the window the players look completely bemused out on the field. I think what we need to see in the early league games is a blueprint of what the system will be going forward and hope that people will give them the time and space to work and ultimately improve at implementing it. I think there is room for a specialist full back in our team/squad. Call it traditional if you like. By virtue that opposing teams will have a full forward we need a full back! Full forward is still a specialist enough position with many teams. Obviously players will be moved to facilitate match ups, usually man marking roles and as I said I think we need at least two of these per game so probably 3 or 4 man markers in the overall squad.
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Post by wideball17 on Sept 19, 2018 14:46:00 GMT
Maurice Fitz , Stephen Stack , Donie Buckley job done!!!
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Post by pillar on Sept 19, 2018 14:52:00 GMT
There would definitely want to be a bit of white smoke in next 6/7 days because it's due to be ratified October 8th and like all elections you must let the dog see the rabbit first.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 22:26:02 GMT
You would think that it would leak soon enough if they are trying to come up with a management team
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Post by buck02 on Sept 20, 2018 8:22:46 GMT
The word is out in Tarbert that Stephen Stack and Donie are the new joint Kerry Senior managers as peter Keane has been ruled out because he wants to select his own backroom team. Should the Culbs have a say in this appointment? I can't see these personalities working as a unit. I am confused. My understanding from the meeting that was had with the clubs and the subsequent statement by Tim Murphy was that the county board with put the backroom team up for ratification on October the 8th or whatever date. I understood that all candidates with outline their team to the county board selection committee and then they would be ratified en-masse. As opposed to a manager being selected and then him announcing his backroom team to the executive at a later date. Not that the county board selection committee would form a management team like kids at the pick'n'mix counter in the cinema.
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