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Post by kerrygold on Jul 18, 2018 11:31:00 GMT
Good piece by Darragh in one sense but it also skilfully deflects responsibility away from management.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Jul 18, 2018 19:04:31 GMT
One item worth watching again is how the body language of the team appeared when Conroy was being treated on the field. The team came together for a discussion in the middle of the field. From what I could see, the main talker was Peter Crowley with contributions from Paul Geaney and James O'Donoghue. Others may have spoken as the camera was not on the Kerry group all the time.
The Galway group had the Maor Foirne in early and spoke a bit. Kerry's Maor Foirne was very late to join (possibly taking "instruction" from management) and did not appear to address the group for very long before departing to the sideline.
Was the brevity of the message due to it being so simple? Or something for all the team, and no individual consultations?
It's in that type of situation you find the leaders standing up that Darragh is referring. There is absolutely no fault on captain Shane Murphy here - after all it was his very first championship game in Croke Park - but the granting of the captaincy to a rookie is insane. If Fionn didn't make the panel, then management should have been free to elect one of the senior players to lead on the pitch. If Fionn was on the panel, he should have been out there.
Just another box that was not checked - how to behave during an extended stoppage.
At least they got the mini-sprint correct and they broke beautifully from it like a blooming flower - wasn't that lovely to see?
Management is much more than even 10 years ago...executive training is needed, along with public speaking, ambassador preparation for public roles (including fund raising), and becoming an on-field motivator (include management and players here).
Leaders can be created.
'Nuff ced...
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Post by mafi97 on Jul 18, 2018 21:53:33 GMT
Shane Murphy had a a few wayward kicks out but in his defence the a lot of his colleagues had little interest in making themselves available. Absolutely agreed. I noted on several occasions he had the ball down on the tee ready to go and every outfield player was switched off which allowed Galway to setup again. He was very animated a couple of times, frustrated by the lack of movement. Compare that to the Dubs with Cluxton having a ball on the tee before an umpire had raised the white flag or waved it wide and the ball on route into space for the likes of a Paul Flynn to run on to it over the years. You are so right about Cluxton having the ball on the tee before the umpire has raised the white flag. Actually, he has it on the tee before the ball goes wide. Now, there are many reasons why Dublin are so dominant over the past number of years - but, in my opinion, their most potent weapon has been the speed of Cluxton's restarts AND the response of his outfield players. Have I got this wrong? - but does the goalkeeper not have to wait for the referee's whistle. Or has this rule change been slipped through without somebody sending me the memo? If I am right about the kickout to be executed only after the ref's whistle - Dublin (=Cluxton) have been getting away with murder for years. Am I right or am I wrong?
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Post by mafi97 on Jul 18, 2018 22:23:48 GMT
Did anyone else not think Sean O Shea was injured. Seemed to be limping from the first minute of game and his running was laboured. Midfield were a major disappointment and do not look capable of leading Kerry anywhere close to All Ireland title now or anytime in the future. Morley massive loss and obviously injured is the lynchpin of Kerry defence. In relation to JOD he is trying very hard but for left footed player he is playing in wrong corner. Clifford should be at 14 and geaney and JOD in the corners. Bottom line challenge and all as it is if Kerry cannot beat Monaghan in Clones they as well off our cause they will not be beating Dubs. This team has its back to wall and it’s now we will find out where this group of players are really at. Yesterday was not an accurate reflection of their true worth but we will know for sure next wkd. Serious question marks do remain however about EF in game management. Some of is substitutions down through years have been shocking [/quot I quite agree with your point about the positioning of James O'Donoghue. JO'D has a particular style of body movement and ball control - and it is, simultaneously, extremely potent coming in from the right corner (if that is not a total anachronism of a term) while being extremely IMPOTENT coming from the left corner.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jul 19, 2018 18:28:13 GMT
Absolutely agreed. I noted on several occasions he had the ball down on the tee ready to go and every outfield player was switched off which allowed Galway to setup again. He was very animated a couple of times, frustrated by the lack of movement. Compare that to the Dubs with Cluxton having a ball on the tee before an umpire had raised the white flag or waved it wide and the ball on route into space for the likes of a Paul Flynn to run on to it over the years. You are so right about Cluxton having the ball on the tee before the umpire has raised the white flag. Actually, he has it on the tee before the ball goes wide. Now, there are many reasons why Dublin are so dominant over the past number of years - but, in my opinion, their most potent weapon has been the speed of Cluxton's restarts AND the response of his outfield players. Have I got this wrong? - but does the goalkeeper not have to wait for the referee's whistle. Or has this rule change been slipped through without somebody sending me the memo? If I am right about the kickout to be executed only after the ref's whistle - Dublin (=Cluxton) have been getting away with murder for years. Am I right or am I wrong? If there is enough attention drawn to the anomaly then the GAA will fine tune it, just like they did with the penalty taking in hurling.
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