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Post by kerryboy83 on Jul 9, 2018 13:47:56 GMT
In relation to the games against Monaghan and Kildare , when will they confirm the days for them games as at the moment we don’t know whether it’s the Saturday or the Sunday? Surely they will not be making them arrangements the week before these games.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 9, 2018 13:53:33 GMT
In relation to the games against Monaghan and Kildare , when will they confirm the days for them games as at the moment we don’t know whether it’s the Saturday or the Sunday? Surely they will not be making them arrangements the week before these games. Its embarrassing that they didnt announce that today. They are totally out of touch with the needs of supporters. For the sake of fairness you would think that the teams that play this Saturday would play the following Saturday and the teams that play this Sunday would play the following Sunday. But it would not surprise me if Dublin will play Tyrone on Sunday 22nd.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 9, 2018 14:23:33 GMT
In relation to the games against Monaghan and Kildare , when will they confirm the days for them games as at the moment we don’t know whether it’s the Saturday or the Sunday? Surely they will not be making them arrangements the week before these games. Its embarrassing that they didnt announce that today. They are totally out of touch with the needs of supporters. For the sake of fairness you would think that the teams that play this Saturday would play the following Saturday and the teams that play this Sunday would play the following Sunday. But it would not surprise me if Dublin will play Tyrone on Sunday 22nd. Its a joke simple as that, funny how other sports can schedule fixtures a year in advance but the good auld GAA can't confirm a fixture that is a fortnight away.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 9, 2018 14:27:37 GMT
There will hardly be snow this time in Monaghan.......................!
Total joke they cant date these games for people travelling the length of the country.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 14:45:42 GMT
Poor form all around. There are plenty who would like to book overnight accommodation especially on the bank holiday weekend. I am sure it will be easy to find something in Killarney last minute that weekend.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Jul 9, 2018 14:49:19 GMT
There obviously waiting to see how games pan out so TV can dictate the dates😏😏😏
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 9, 2018 14:50:44 GMT
Sadly Championship football as we know it is dead - under this new system a team can lose two games (i.e. come through qualifiers and lose a super 8 game) and still go on and win the AI title. Not only that but a team can scrape through on a thin straw of scoring difference over another and become the AI champion. I know I'm probably sounding like a cranky old git but I grew up on championship meaning the undefeated team being top of the pile at the end of the competition and reigning supreme for the winter until the battle lines are re-drawn for the next campaign.
Rules for the S 8 are practical but pityable imho.
In the event of two or more teams finishing level on points the next criteria for qualification will be the head-to-head result between the sides.
If that game(s) ended in a draw then scoring difference decides the table position. Should that criteria not be enough to separate the teams, goals scored comes into play and finally, a play-off.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 9, 2018 14:55:05 GMT
Sadly Championship football as we know it is dead - under this new system a team can lose two games (i.e. come through qualifiers and lose a super 8 game) and still go on and win the AI title. Not only that but a team can scrape through on a thin straw of scoring difference over another and become the AI champion. I know I'm probably sounding like a cranky old git but I grew up on championship meaning the undefeated team being top of the pile at the end of the competition and reigning supreme for the winter until the battle lines are re-drawn for the next campaign. Rules for the S 8 are practical but pityable imho. In the event of two or more teams finishing level on points the next criteria for qualification will be the head-to-head result between the sides. If that game(s) ended in a draw then scoring difference decides the table position. Should that criteria not be enough to separate the teams, goals scored comes into play and finally, a play-off. You are right about one thing anyway.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 9, 2018 15:03:47 GMT
Sadly Championship football as we know it is dead - under this new system a team can lose two games (i.e. come through qualifiers and lose a super 8 game) and still go on and win the AI title. Not only that but a team can scrape through on a thin straw of scoring difference over another and become the AI champion. I know I'm probably sounding like a cranky old git but I grew up on championship meaning the undefeated team being top of the pile at the end of the competition and reigning supreme for the winter until the battle lines are re-drawn for the next campaign. Rules for the S 8 are practical but pityable imho. In the event of two or more teams finishing level on points the next criteria for qualification will be the head-to-head result between the sides. If that game(s) ended in a draw then scoring difference decides the table position. Should that criteria not be enough to separate the teams, goals scored comes into play and finally, a play-off. You are right about one thing anyway. At the rate the money men are designing the competitions (in collaboration with TV) we are only one more tweak away from the AI final becoming a world series style best of 7 competition with alternating venues.
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Post by glengael on Jul 9, 2018 15:24:24 GMT
Poor form all around. There are plenty who would like to book overnight accommodation especially on the bank holiday weekend. I am sure it will be easy to find something in Killarney last minute that weekend. I'd imagine it would also be useful for Gardai, Civil Defence and civic authorities to know which day it's on , might help with planning, traffic management etc... In Clones and Salthill as well as Killarney..
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Post by kerryboy83 on Jul 9, 2018 15:31:49 GMT
So next Monday, they can decide if they want with their sky sports buddies to play kerry Monaghan on the Saturday at 7 leaving people with 5 days notice to book off work and book accommodation. But sure don’t worry about the supporter. Let’s keep our buddies across the Irish Sea happy first
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Post by jackiel on Jul 9, 2018 16:09:40 GMT
Poor form all around. There are plenty who would like to book overnight accommodation especially on the bank holiday weekend. I am sure it will be easy to find something in Killarney last minute that weekend. I've done a free cancellation on booking.com which will work for me whether it's Sat or Sunday, the prices for a BH weekend are a bit steep though. Surely they know which matches are likely to be the biggest draw for Sky already and could schedule accordingly, we all have busy lives and there are many variables to be taken into account.
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Post by wayupnorth on Jul 9, 2018 16:29:43 GMT
There's absolutely no excuse for not releasing the dates now.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 9, 2018 18:43:19 GMT
Having been to an Ulster final in Clones the test that awaits the Kingdom v Monaghan will be something they have never before experienced. Interest and attendence from the neighbouring Ulster counties is guaranteed and makes the game against Galway a must win. With all due respect are we supposed to fear playing in Ulster? It will be a stern test but we are more this an ready for it. You are right that many fans will come from around Ulster, Kerry are in town.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 18:50:37 GMT
Nothing to fear from playing in clones, decent pitch
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 18:53:27 GMT
Poor form all around. There are plenty who would like to book overnight accommodation especially on the bank holiday weekend. I am sure it will be easy to find something in Killarney last minute that weekend. I've done a free cancellation on booking.com which will work for me whether it's Sat or Sunday, the prices for a BH weekend are a bit steep though. Surely they know which matches are likely to be the biggest draw for Sky already and could schedule accordingly, we all have busy lives and there are many variables to be taken into account. Yeah that's what friends of mine have done. You aren't the only one that has done this but I see Sky are being blamed for all of this. Rte are just as responsible. Do the last group games all have to take place at the same time?
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Post by southward on Jul 9, 2018 19:14:42 GMT
How many of those one point All Ireland victories would be defeats in Croker was in say Galway. Home advantage is prob worth somewhere between 3 and 7 points! There’s the familiarity and other such intangibles that you gain from playing every game at home- how many all Ireland’s would we have won if every game was in Killarney? Corresponding question: How many thousands of euro is constant home advantage worth to your Dublin supporter over the course of a decade?
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Post by southward on Jul 9, 2018 19:18:38 GMT
You are right about one thing anyway. At the rate the money men are designing the competitions (in collaboration with TV) we are only one more tweak away from the AI final becoming a world series style best of 7 competition with alternating venues.Parnell Park and Croker?
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Post by thebluepanther on Jul 9, 2018 19:46:39 GMT
Home advantage is prob worth somewhere between 3 and 7 points! There’s the familiarity and other such intangibles that you gain from playing every game at home- how many all Ireland’s would we have won if every game was in Killarney? Corresponding question: How many thousands of euro is constant home advantage worth to your Dublin supporter over the course of a decade? Did you see the price of food in Croker and the cost of parking. We haven't saved anything. 😉
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Post by wayupnorth on Jul 9, 2018 20:24:28 GMT
Having been to an Ulster final in Clones the test that awaits the Kingdom v Monaghan will be something they have never before experienced. Interest and attendence from the neighbouring Ulster counties is guaranteed and makes the game against Galway a must win. With all due respect are we supposed to fear playing in Ulster? It will be a stern test but we are more this an ready for it. You are right that many fans will come from around Ulster, Kerry are in town. I agree we should have nothing to fear but we are likely to be vastly outnumbered by Monaghan supporters. It's going to be a big ask to expect Kerry people to travel big distances two weeks running. But last time we were in Clones (it was only the League) we won comfortably.
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Post by jackiel on Jul 9, 2018 20:55:27 GMT
I've done a free cancellation on booking.com which will work for me whether it's Sat or Sunday, the prices for a BH weekend are a bit steep though. Surely they know which matches are likely to be the biggest draw for Sky already and could schedule accordingly, we all have busy lives and there are many variables to be taken into account. Yeah that's what friends of mine have done. You aren't the only one that has done this but I see Sky are being blamed for all of this. Rte are just as responsible. Do the last group games all have to take place at the same time? Fair point swap out Sky for TV but as I said surely they can timetable the tv schedule since the final whistle of yesterday's match. It is a very dismissive attitude towards all supporters. Not sure if matches will be played simultaneously.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 9, 2018 21:19:44 GMT
Having been to an Ulster final in Clones the test that awaits the Kingdom v Monaghan will be something they have never before experienced. Interest and attendence from the neighbouring Ulster counties is guaranteed and makes the game against Galway a must win. With all due respect are we supposed to fear playing in Ulster? It will be a stern test but we are more this an ready for it. You are right that many fans will come from around Ulster, Kerry are in town. Its not a coincidence that we played them twice in Inniskeen, The strangest county ground in the sense that it's really a small village, Granted it's a lovely ground. The pitch is small and tight. I think the wide expanses of Clones will suit Kerry. As bad as we played in the league against them with no midfield and a few young lads playing there 3rd or 4th game we actually could have snatched a draw at the end.
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Post by glengael on Jul 10, 2018 8:54:09 GMT
So next Monday, they can decide if they want with their sky sports buddies to play kerry Monaghan on the Saturday at 7 leaving people with 5 days notice to book off work and book accommodation. But sure don’t worry about the supporter. Let’s keep our buddies across the Irish Sea happy first How long of a journey is Clones from Dublin? What is the best route? And yes I know there's Google Maps and AA routeplanner and satnav and any number of other technological inventions, before someone kindly and helpfully points that out to me. However I would rather hear from someone who has made the journey for a match. Practical experience and all that...
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Post by buck02 on Jul 10, 2018 9:02:35 GMT
So next Monday, they can decide if they want with their sky sports buddies to play kerry Monaghan on the Saturday at 7 leaving people with 5 days notice to book off work and book accommodation. But sure don’t worry about the supporter. Let’s keep our buddies across the Irish Sea happy first How long of a journey is Clones from Dublin? What is the best route? And yes I know there's Google Maps and AA routeplanner and satnav and any number of other technological inventions, before someone kindly and helpfully points that out to me. However I would rather hear from someone who has made the journey for a match. Practical experience and all that... Best route from Kerry is to go to Nenagh, Borrisokane, Athlone, Cavan and then straight onto Clones. Plenty of flat bogland to admire. The road from Borrisokane to Athlone is a bit bumpy here and there so keep your wits about you.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 10, 2018 9:05:57 GMT
So next Monday, they can decide if they want with their sky sports buddies to play kerry Monaghan on the Saturday at 7 leaving people with 5 days notice to book off work and book accommodation. But sure don’t worry about the supporter. Let’s keep our buddies across the Irish Sea happy first How long of a journey is Clones from Dublin? What is the best route? And yes I know there's Google Maps and AA routeplanner and satnav and any number of other technological inventions, before someone kindly and helpfully points that out to me. However I would rather hear from someone who has made the journey for a match. Practical experience and all that... Living in the north east myself I'd head up the M1 past Drogheda and take the Ardee turn continuing on through carrickmacross and ballybay onto clones. It's a 1.20 from me so I'd imagine 2.15 or so from Dublin.
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 10, 2018 9:12:00 GMT
With all due respect are we supposed to fear playing in Ulster? It will be a stern test but we are more this an ready for it. You are right that many fans will come from around Ulster, Kerry are in town. Its not a coincidence that we played them twice in Inniskeen, The strangest county ground in the sense that it's really a small village, Granted it's a lovely ground. The pitch is small and tight. I think the wide expanses of Clones will suit Kerry. As bad as we played in the league against them with no midfield and a few young lads playing there 3rd or 4th game we actually could have snatched a draw at the end. This is a game where old heads will be as important as young legs. The pitch is small and tight - I don't think there are any wide expanses.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 10, 2018 9:38:17 GMT
Its not a coincidence that we played them twice in Inniskeen, The strangest county ground in the sense that it's really a small village, Granted it's a lovely ground. The pitch is small and tight. I think the wide expanses of Clones will suit Kerry. As bad as we played in the league against them with no midfield and a few young lads playing there 3rd or 4th game we actually could have snatched a draw at the end. This is a game where old heads will be as important as young legs. The pitch is small and tight - I don't think there are any wide expanses. Really? I always got the impression it was a big pitch my mistake.
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Post by glengael on Jul 10, 2018 9:51:44 GMT
Was thinking of breaking the journey in Dublin either on the way there or the way back hence my question. All depends on if its an evening match or on the Sunday afternoon.
Clones always looked like a very tight pitch on tv..
At least we (the supporters) will get a chance to see what Monaghan are shaping up like on Sunday.
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Post by kerryexile on Jul 10, 2018 10:12:07 GMT
Clones inadvertently became the home of the Ulster final during the troubles. Casement Park was taken over so the Ulster Council wanted a venue where the same could not happen. It would lead you to think that it is a ground like Killarney or Thurles but it is not.
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Post by keane on Jul 10, 2018 10:30:25 GMT
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