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Post by gamechanger10 on May 17, 2018 19:30:10 GMT
Agree mickmack, He was excellent against us in the replay last year, he bossed and bullied and owned the middle ground and was a vital player in that partivular game. Mind you if we had even a suggestion of a defensive system i believe we would have won that game, i hope the squad are being well drilled in both kickout and defensive drills prior to the championship. If we bring the same ol’ tricks to this years circus we’ll end up with big shoes and red noses when the final whistle blows again,,
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Post by kerrygold on May 17, 2018 19:43:05 GMT
Mayo are capable of beating the Tyrones, Monaghans etc in the qualifiers with a bit of form. I'm not sure they were really that bad last weekend. Galway are decent enough.
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Post by kerrygold on May 17, 2018 19:58:38 GMT
Oisin McConville: Monaghan to end mental block & sink Tyrone
Oisin McConville believes Monaghan will end their "mental block" when it comes to facing Tyrone and dump Mickey Harte's men out of the Ulster Championship.
The Farney County come into this Sunday's provincial quarter-final off the back of another strong Allianz Football League Division 1 campaign in which they beat Dublin and narrowly missed out on a place in the final.
Tyrone are the reigning champions, but former Armagh forward McConville feels they're on the wane, and predicted they'll coem up short in Omagh when Monaghan come to town.
"There's a lot on the line at the weekend," he told RTÉ Game On.
"It's a long road to those Super 8s for whoever loses at the weekend. I've fancied Monaghan.
"I saw them during the league. I think they've managed, for the first time ever, to stay in Division 1 and hold a little bit back. They had the opportunity to rest a few players.
"There's a lot of players going into this championship a lot fresher than they have been. I just have a sneaking suspicion for Monaghan; I fancy them to win the Ulster Championship.
"Moaghan have a shocking record against Tyrone. They seem to have a mental block when it comes to playing against them. They'll have to turn that around.
"The strange thing about it all is that they don't have a mental block when it comes to Dublin. They've taken on Dublin over the last number of years in the league and gone toe to toe. They've added to their forward line."
McConville sees improvements in the Farney ranks but suspects the Red Hands have stalled in their progress.
Key to Malachy O'Rourke's hopes will be stopping Tyrone's danger men. Do that, says McConville, and this Tyrone side's weaknesses will be exposed.
"Tiernan McCann and Mattie Donnelly are two of the players when you're playing against Tyrone that you have to got to pinpoint.
"They're the guys who are breaking the line the majority of the time. Niall Sludden is another guy you have to man-mark.
"The thing that's stood to Tyrone the last number of years is that they've really good footballers who are comfortable on the ball and comfortable playing the system, and they haven't had much of a contest in Ulster. I think that may have changed a little but.
"I'm not sure if Tyrone have improved that much, I'm not sure where their confidence is at and if they lose Lee Brennan they have a serious problem with free-kicks."
Follow Limerick v Tipperary and Cork v Clare this Sunday via our live blog on RTÉ.ie and the News Now App from 1.30pm, watch live and exclusive TV coverage on RTÉ2 or listen to exclusive radio commentary on RTÉ Radio 1.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 17, 2018 21:16:08 GMT
Oisin McConville: Monaghan to end mental block & sink Tyrone Oisin McConville believes Monaghan will end their "mental block" when it comes to facing Tyrone and dump Mickey Harte's men out of the Ulster Championship. The Farney County come into this Sunday's provincial quarter-final off the back of another strong Allianz Football League Division 1 campaign in which they beat Dublin and narrowly missed out on a place in the final. Tyrone are the reigning champions, but former Armagh forward McConville feels they're on the wane, and predicted they'll coem up short in Omagh when Monaghan come to town. "There's a lot on the line at the weekend," he told RTÉ Game On. "It's a long road to those Super 8s for whoever loses at the weekend. I've fancied Monaghan. "I saw them during the league. I think they've managed, for the first time ever, to stay in Division 1 and hold a little bit back. They had the opportunity to rest a few players. "There's a lot of players going into this championship a lot fresher than they have been. I just have a sneaking suspicion for Monaghan; I fancy them to win the Ulster Championship. "Moaghan have a shocking record against Tyrone. They seem to have a mental block when it comes to playing against them. They'll have to turn that around. "The strange thing about it all is that they don't have a mental block when it comes to Dublin. They've taken on Dublin over the last number of years in the league and gone toe to toe. They've added to their forward line." McConville sees improvements in the Farney ranks but suspects the Red Hands have stalled in their progress. Key to Malachy O'Rourke's hopes will be stopping Tyrone's danger men. Do that, says McConville, and this Tyrone side's weaknesses will be exposed. "Tiernan McCann and Mattie Donnelly are two of the players when you're playing against Tyrone that you have to got to pinpoint. "They're the guys who are breaking the line the majority of the time. Niall Sludden is another guy you have to man-mark. "The thing that's stood to Tyrone the last number of years is that they've really good footballers who are comfortable on the ball and comfortable playing the system, and they haven't had much of a contest in Ulster. I think that may have changed a little but. "I'm not sure if Tyrone have improved that much, I'm not sure where their confidence is at and if they lose Lee Brennan they have a serious problem with free-kicks." Follow Limerick v Tipperary and Cork v Clare this Sunday via our live blog on RTÉ.ie and the News Now App from 1.30pm, watch live and exclusive TV coverage on RTÉ2 or listen to exclusive radio commentary on RTÉ Radio 1. I'd agree with Oisin I think Monaghan are a better side than Tyrone. The only worry from Monaghans perspective is it's in Omagh.
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Post by kerrygold on May 17, 2018 21:17:54 GMT
I think it will be tight enough all the same. It seems Tyrone don't like playing in Omagh either or maybe that is just spin from Sean Cavanagh.......................
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 17, 2018 21:33:18 GMT
I think it will be tight enough all the same. It seems Tyrone don't like playing in Omagh either or maybe that is just spin from Sean Cavanagh....................... If Sean's brother is out injured that could be a major factor too. Id love to see Monaghan beat them.
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Post by kerrygold on May 17, 2018 22:43:58 GMT
I think it will be tight enough all the same. It seems Tyrone don't like playing in Omagh either or maybe that is just spin from Sean Cavanagh....................... If Sean's brother is out injured that could be a major factor too. Id love to see Monaghan beat them. This game must be within the environs of 50/50. Shocking it is not on TV!
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Post by dc84 on May 18, 2018 8:32:28 GMT
Mayo are capable of beating the Tyrones, Monaghans etc in the qualifiers with a bit of form. I'm not sure they were really that bad last weekend. Galway are decent enough. Galway are decent and its hardly a disgrace to lose to them its the manner in which they did.same old story terrible shooting leaving them down yet again
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Post by Kingdomson on May 18, 2018 9:47:41 GMT
Mayo are capable of beating the Tyrones, Monaghans etc in the qualifiers with a bit of form. I'm not sure they were really that bad last weekend. Galway are decent enough. Galway are decent and its hardly a disgrace to lose to them its the manner in which they did.same old story terrible shooting leaving them down yet again As well as wayward shooting, I would add the issue of on field indiscipline costing Mayo again. How many times has it cost Mayo big time even more than the wides! There have been countless examples of it over the years, with two of the most recent being Donie Vaughan's sending off in the All Ireland final last year, just as Mayo were holding the whip hand and heading for glory. Mayo received lots of plaudits for their heroic efforts (they always do) and players costing their team are left off very lightly while other factors are blamed and usually the referee firstly. Donie Vaughan irresponsibly seeking Wild West justice cost his county the 2017 All Ireland final in my view. Diarmuid O’Connor lost his head for no reason and swings a cowardly and highly dangerous elbow in the recent match against Galway handicapping his team in the process not just last Sunday but perhaps even for the whatever remains of their season.
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Post by playitfair on May 18, 2018 18:20:19 GMT
If Sean's brother is out injured that could be a major factor too. Id love to see Monaghan beat them. This game must be within the environs of 50/50. Shocking it is not on TV! Just can’t see Monaghan winning. Tyrone by 5 for me.
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Post by kerrygold on May 18, 2018 18:52:13 GMT
This game must be within the environs of 50/50. Shocking it is not on TV! Just can’t see Monaghan winning. Tyrone by 5 for me. I think it will be much tighter than 5 points Tyrone win. Monaghan will be very much in the mix here.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 18, 2018 21:05:22 GMT
Just can’t see Monaghan winning. Tyrone by 5 for me. I think it will be much tighter than 5 points Tyrone win. Monaghan will be very much in the mix here. Backed a draw in this one think it'll be very tight. Disgrace it's not on TV
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Post by clarinman on May 18, 2018 21:53:08 GMT
I think it will be much tighter than 5 points Tyrone win. Monaghan will be very much in the mix here. Backed a draw in this one think it'll be very tight. Disgrace it's not on TV Clashes with Ulster rugby playoff game. BBC NI showing that and showing football delayed. Don't know why this wasn't scheduled for Saturday evening to avoid clashes with Munster hurling and rugby.
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Post by kerrygold on May 19, 2018 19:45:42 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on May 19, 2018 19:57:52 GMT
Crazy there is no more football on TV until June, a major own goal.....................
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 20, 2018 10:43:52 GMT
Crazy there is no more football on TV until June, a major own goal..................... I’m usually not one to get overly dramatic about this and I’ve never gone in too hard on the sky deals, etc but the lack of coverage is getting ridiculous. Forget rte or whoever- the GAA are missing a trick here big time as you just can’t see matches. Compare it to soccer, rugby and even cricket- these sports do wall to wall coverage. They should fire a channel up on saorview and just show matches all the time, followed by old games, followed by a laochra style show
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Post by glengael on May 20, 2018 10:52:02 GMT
What has happened to Armagh? In reality is this McGeeney's last year unless he can deliver something major via the backdoor?
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Post by taggert on May 20, 2018 11:32:38 GMT
What has happened to Armagh? In reality is this McGeeney's last year unless he can deliver something major via the backdoor? Has Geezer ever delivered anything as a manager/coach? Absolute spoofer if you ask me.
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Post by playitfair on May 20, 2018 12:43:32 GMT
Definitely has not delivered for Armagh. However his record with Kildare, in my opinion, stands up to scrutiny.
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Post by Mickmack on May 20, 2018 13:08:15 GMT
Crazy there is no more football on TV until June, a major own goal..................... I’m usually not one to get overly dramatic about this and I’ve never gone in too hard on the sky deals, etc Classic understatement🙂
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 20, 2018 13:41:09 GMT
Definitely has not delivered for Armagh. However his record with Kildare, in my opinion, stands up to scrutiny. Agree. Was very consistent with a fairly limited side. Never I think ever beat a side better than them but almost always lost to the sides they were better than.
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Post by dc84 on May 20, 2018 17:24:24 GMT
Mcgeeney got kildare super fit which let them steamroll lesser teams (he also bankrupted them) very good player but very average coach/manager need a kind draw, if they get tyrone/mayo they are in serious trouble
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Post by buck02 on May 20, 2018 17:27:01 GMT
Massive statement if intent from Monaghan beating Tyrone and scoring 1-18 in the process.
On Armagh, I see they scored two points from play in 78 minutes of football. In the month of May on a fine evening.
Why the hell would you bother training, doing gym sessions, living like a monk etc if you play in a team that can only muster two points from play.
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Post by peanuts on May 20, 2018 18:12:59 GMT
2 of (certainly last years anyway) the big 4 beaten already in the championship. One of them could be finished very early if they were to meet in the first round of qualifiers.
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Post by Kingdomson on May 20, 2018 20:37:03 GMT
I watched the deferred coverage of Tyrone versus Monaghan and it was a marvellous game. Both sides showed fully committed to the cause in greasy conditions and the standard of football was top class. Given all the hype before the turgid fare served up in Connacht between Mayo and Galway this Ulster championship match was thankfully the real deal and hugely entertaining. On a day when it was competing with Munster hurling it was game of the day and we can’t say that too often when it comes to provincial football. Monaghan had 10 different scorers and some of their point taking was exceptional in the conditions. McMansus was well marshalled and subdued but in the last 5 minutes when leadership was needed he proved himself yet again to be different class. The thought occurred to me if he was under Kerry management he’d probably have been substituted given how they can panic. Malachy O’Rourke though is one of the very best mangers in the game and all his substitutions added value and his coolness online mirrored in a team who now don’t do panic. Tyrone substitutions on the other hand seemed to backfire and they became increasingly disjointed and rattled. Ronan O’Neill who was substituted on only to be substituted off again was visibly angry and had words with Harte leaving the field. Mickey Harte’s risked three players carrying injuries including Colm Cavanagh, Tiernan McCann and Lee Brennan, and all three were taken off and not around for the up for grabs last 10 minutes. The retired Sean Cavanagh recent comments could be interpreted as criticism of Harte when he suggested their marque forwards were somewhat stifled by their tactics. Is Harte becoming a Wenger type figure and staying on too long? I just wonder.
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Post by Mickmack on May 20, 2018 20:50:54 GMT
Rory Beggan is some operator.
Monaghan continue to punch above their weight.
If they can avoid injuries they will put it up to any team.
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Post by Mickmack on May 20, 2018 20:55:15 GMT
Harte a Wenger like figure staying on too long....well....they said Sean Boylan stayed too long with Meath but Meath sank a lot when he left. They are now around the place they were in the pre-Boylan era.
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Post by kerrygold on May 21, 2018 9:17:01 GMT
It is frightening to think what Conor McManus would do to teams in the old game pre blanket defences.........
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Post by kerrygold on May 21, 2018 9:19:50 GMT
Harte a Wenger like figure staying on too long....well....they said Sean Boylan stayed too long with Meath but Meath sank a lot when he left. They are now around the place they were in the pre-Boylan era. Logan & Canavan are waiting quietly in the wings in this case unlike the ranting Eamonn Barry situation in Meath.
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Post by kerrygold on May 21, 2018 16:14:13 GMT
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