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Post by kerrygold on May 22, 2018 15:01:01 GMT
That looks like three players to emerge from the first two winning minor teams? It seems like a poor representation in the first 26?
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Post by greengold35 on May 22, 2018 16:04:21 GMT
Only a few weeks out from this match. To be honest I am struggling to raise any sort of enthusiasm for the championship both hurling and football so far this year. I don't know if its the introduction of the round robin in the hurling and the super 8's in the football but or not. Maybe a big match in round 1 of the qualifiers between Tyrone and Mayo might shake it into life. I'll be honest. I haven't a clue what team we will put out or what style we will play. People will peddle the old nonsense that Eamonn is keeping his powder dry in Munster and won't want to show his hand to the dubs etc. Like we will magically unveil some tactical master class when needed. We have never really unveiled anything in the all Ireland series that we haven't already seen in Munster. Clare ran through us last year as well. Ditto Cork and Galway not to mention Mayo on both days. I have no idea who our goalkeeper will be. If we are going to play all the young / inexperienced lads in the backs I hope we have some sort of system in place where they won't be hung out to dry against stronger more seasoned opponents in 1 v 1's. Below is the team I would like to see. Some of the calls are debatable but, I would like to see us try new things / players as going back to the same old players when they haven't been good enough in the last few years is ludicrous. 1. Murphy 2 Shannahan 3 Morley 4 Foley 5 Murphy 6 Gavin Crowley 7 B O Beaglaoich 8 Moran 9 Barry 10 Burns 11 O'Shea (Jack Savage If playing U20) 12 O'Brien 13 Clifford ( Dathi Casey if playing U20) 14 Geaney 15 O'Donoghue 16 B Kelly 17 Maher (Midfield Cover) 18 Donaghy (If change of style needed) 19 Buckley (Midfield / half forward ) 20 Darran (Injection of pace) 21 BJK (Scoring forward / pace) 22 P Crowley (Half backline cover) 23 D Walsh (Half forward line cover) 24 F Fitz (Half back / full back line cover) The bench is hard to pick as due to the demands of the modern game and the six subs / black card nearly everyone one there has to be somewhat flexible. Ideally you want at least 2 options for every line for every line of the field. You could easily mess around with it as you can adjust the on field players as well. I would start Foley and Shanahan as two man markers in the full back line with Morely minding the house as the clare corner forward drifts out. He as played full back underage and for templenoe. Let foley find his feet at this lever before moving him in to full back. Gavin Crowley is a big man who can man the center. Not only that he can cause problems going forward. Let him give it his all before being replaced. Midfield picks itself. I'm not convinced about Moran but, as in I think he has been poor since 14 but, he is prob our next most mobile player. Ideally I would have him at centre forward with O'Shea coming out from full forward to give the sweepers something to do. I have probably made some glaring omissions. Picking a team at the minute is akin to doing the lotto - no two people will come up with the same 15. I have heard the following over the last few days; 1. Shane Enright injured and out of the first game 2. Tadhg Morley will play full back. 3. Gavin White will play @ 7. 4. Both Sean O’Shea & David Clifford are in the senior panel and will not play with the U-20s at any stage. 5. One of Daithi Casey or Johnny Buckley has left the panel. There are probably another 5/10 rumors abounding at the moment also!
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Post by Mickmack on May 22, 2018 16:23:47 GMT
That looks like three players to emerge from the first two winning minor teams? It seems like a poor representation in the first 26? With no college in Kerry, the way things tend to work in Kerry is that lads are 24 and finished college before they make the breakthrough. At that rate there should be a rake of lads coming on stream from 2020 on. Bit of wishful thinking maybe...
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 22, 2018 17:55:58 GMT
So how does this work exactly? My understanding is that you name a squad of 30 for the championship and a match day squad of 24.
Is that correct?
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Post by veteran on May 22, 2018 19:26:39 GMT
Delighted to see that the Kerry ladies are the curtain raiser for this game.
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Post by givehimaball on May 22, 2018 19:36:24 GMT
So how does this work exactly? My understanding is that you name a squad of 30 for the championship and a match day squad of 24. Is that correct? Last I heard the rule was a match-day squad of 26. This had to be submitted to Croke Park by 9am on the Thursday prior to a championship game. There is no rule relating to naming a championship squad of 30 that I am aware of.
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Post by peanuts on May 22, 2018 20:37:03 GMT
I Would Love to see a full forward line of 10 Michael Burns 11 Sean O Shea 12 Jack Savage To Start the first game.Sean o shea is a great kicker for the post michael burns for getting good ball into full forward line and to work and jack to mind to ball spread it Will they be able to follow their men when they go forward? Not sure they will.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 22, 2018 20:44:49 GMT
So how does this work exactly? My understanding is that you name a squad of 30 for the championship and a match day squad of 24. Is that correct? Last I heard the rule was a match-day squad of 26. This had to be submitted to Croke Park by 9am on the Thursday prior to a championship game. There is no rule relating to naming a championship squad of 30 that I am aware of. Ah ok- Fitz has cut the squad down to 30 as far as I’m aware
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Post by taibhse on May 23, 2018 7:58:02 GMT
Last I heard the rule was a match-day squad of 26. This had to be submitted to Croke Park by 9am on the Thursday prior to a championship game. There is no rule relating to naming a championship squad of 30 that I am aware of. Ah ok- Fitz has cut the squad down to 30 as far as I’m aware Squad has not been cut yet. They are back training in Killarney since last weekend. Shane Enright is out for a few weeks with an ankle injury.
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Post by kerrygold on May 23, 2018 8:11:45 GMT
'Balancing act' of new breed can help Kerry, insists Moran
Michael Verney
May 23 2018 2:30 AM
Having won the last four All-Ireland minor football titles, the temptation is for Kerry senior boss Eamonn Fitzmaurice to give youth its fling but David Moran insists "a balancing act" is needed.
Former All-Star midfielder Moran has watched the likes of David Clifford, Seán O'Shea and Gavin Crowley break through after unprecedented underage success but he knows there's no guarantees in their chase for Sam Maguire.
Moran also feels that it would be foolish to cast aside players which helped the Kingdom to league and Munster success last year based on the absence of an All-Ireland SFC title.
"The transition is always difficult, I don't think we're going to put in these fellas because they're 21, guys are going to have to be playing better than 27- and 28-year-olds to be in," the Benetti Menswear GAA Ambassador said.
"You can't just discard the whole team, it isn't like a team that lost the first round of Munster by ten points, we weren't that far away last year so it would be wrong to discard everyone.
"People just need to be patient, it's grand saying, 'Bring in a minor', but you're talking about five or six 20-year-olds trying to win an All-Ireland, it's not that easy. Some of the guys are exceptionally talented, we just need to be patient."
The Kerins O'Rahillys powerhouse understands the pressure inside his own county for All-Ireland success - their last was four years ago - but outlines how many of the new breed don't entertain such conversation.
"We were up at training camp and I was rooming with Jason Foley and Kieran Donaghy and a thing about Princess Diana came on. He'd (Jason) never even heard of her like," Moran explained.
"It's not a case of, 'Oh, we haven't won it in x amount of years,' or 'We've only won it once.' These guys are coming in with just a completely different attitude and a completely different psyche."
Clare await for Kerry in the Munster SFC semi-final on June 3 but much has been made of Tipperary playing back-to-back weeks ahead of their Cork clash, something Moran feels may work to the Premier's advantage.
"It's very difficult, it's tough on them but I suppose if they beat Cork they're saying they had momentum coming in, they were match-sharp, sometimes you cut your cloth the way it is. There's pros and cons," Moran added.
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Post by taibhse on May 23, 2018 8:40:19 GMT
Can't go from 'Kick & Rush' to 'Pick & Rush'!!!
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Post by Sons of Pitches on May 23, 2018 8:56:05 GMT
Elsewhere, Johnny Buckley has had to step away from the Kerry football squad due to increased work commitments. he Dr Crokes forward is not expected to be involved in the forthcoming championship as he devotes more time to the family bus company which is based in Killarney. Buckley was last year's Kerry captain, courtesy of Crokes' All-Ireland club success in 2017. He was half-forward on the team that defeated Donegal in the 2014 All-Ireland final and featured again in the final against Dublin a year later. Buckley has had ongoing knee problems that kept him out of action for all of the 2016 Championship. It is not clear if Buckley, who made his Kerry championship debut in 2012 as a substitute against Cork, will return in 2019. Kerry - who face Clare in their championship opener on the weekend after next - are likely to be without defender Shane Enright who is nursing an ankle injury. www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/marty-clarke-believes-gaa-should-not-back-down-from-firm-stance-over-clash-with-champions-league-final-36936640.html
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on May 23, 2018 9:17:51 GMT
Johnny is a good skillful player but, just doesn't have the pace now to play around the middle third.
Kicked a massive point against Donegal in 14 into the hill. Probably the best tackler on the Kerry team as well.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 23, 2018 11:05:15 GMT
I believe he has also gotten married recently so best wishes with that too. Always came across as a gentleman and we might see him in a green and gold jersey again soon.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 23, 2018 11:08:30 GMT
I know this is off-point but I thought it best to post it on the most popular thread of the day.
"Dublin is on course to account for 45pc of the Republic's population - and will increase by the size of Cork in the next decade."
So as opposed to dividing Dublin into two maybe we need to look at dividing the country into two? There will have to be some dividing and despite the North Side/South Side cultural distinctions, I can't see them volunteering.
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Post by tonydorigo on May 23, 2018 11:47:16 GMT
Surprising that Johnny Buckley has left the panel. Must be something more than work commitments involved.
Gavin White would be an interesting inclusion given that he didn't get a run in the league due to injury.
Full forward line will be interesting and hopefully James O'Donoghue gets a run of games this summer. Need him back to 2014 form to have a chance of winning the AI this year.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 23, 2018 13:17:17 GMT
Ah ok- Fitz has cut the squad down to 30 as far as I’m aware Squad has not been cut yet. They are back training in Killarney since last weekend. Shane Enright is out for a few weeks with an ankle injury. You sure? I have it on good authority that players were informed via text whether they were in the 30 or not
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on May 23, 2018 14:50:34 GMT
Surprising that Johnny Buckley has left the panel. Must be something more than work commitments involved. Gavin White would be an interesting inclusion given that he didn't get a run in the league due to injury. Full forward line will be interesting and hopefully James O'Donoghue gets a run of games this summer. Need him back to 2014 form to have a chance of winning the AI this year. I suppose the 'work commitments' is a nicer way then saying dropped. I presume Sean O'Shea, Burns and O'Brien are ahead of him. Darran, D Walsh as well tipping around. Not to mention others
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Post by givehimaball on May 23, 2018 15:46:25 GMT
Surprising that Johnny Buckley has left the panel. Must be something more than work commitments involved. I heard last year that he might not be involved last season due to work commitments, especially given championship season is the busiest time of year. Someone told me recently enough that they had 70+ vehicles and around 100 employees, and Johnny is pretty much the main man in charge of things now. Definitely not that surprising.
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Post by taibhse on May 23, 2018 17:03:30 GMT
Squad has not been cut yet. They are back training in Killarney since last weekend. Shane Enright is out for a few weeks with an ankle injury. You sure? I have it on good authority that players were informed via text whether they were in the 30 or not. There were well in excess of 40 players training on Saturday and that did not include Development players. How in the name of God could you go through the Super 8's with a panel of 30? (assuming that Kerry make the Super 8's). As well as that, how could you have 'in house' challenge games with just 30 players and a situation where you will always have lads injured and absent through illness or such like?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 23, 2018 17:16:50 GMT
You sure? I have it on good authority that players were informed via text whether they were in the 30 or not. There were well in excess of 40 players training on Saturday and that did not include Development players. How in the name of God could you go through the Super 8's with a panel of 30? (assuming that Kerry make the Super 8's). As well as that, how could you have 'in house' challenge games with just 30 players and a situation where you will always have lads injured and absent through illness or such like? I can only go by what I was told
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Post by greengold35 on May 23, 2018 20:53:30 GMT
Kerry have a championship squad of 36 players with an additional panel of 10 players who train once a week in Currans under the supervision of Diarmuid Murphy.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on May 23, 2018 22:46:08 GMT
Kerry have a championship squad of 36 players with an additional panel of 10 players who train once a week in Currans under the supervision of Diarmuid Murphy. Murphy? I thought he left the management team a few years ago?
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Post by greengold35 on May 24, 2018 6:46:28 GMT
Kerry have a championship squad of 36 players with an additional panel of 10 players who train once a week in Currans under the supervision of Diarmuid Murphy. Murphy? I thought he left the management team a few years ago? Back in the fold again this year!
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Post by playitfair on May 24, 2018 7:12:29 GMT
Murphy? I thought he left the management team a few years ago? Back in the fold again this year! Good news.
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Post by Jigz84 on May 24, 2018 7:45:45 GMT
Back in the fold again this year! Good news. And strange
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Post by dc84 on May 24, 2018 8:10:37 GMT
Excellent news! An estute brain by all accounts cant hurt to have a ex goalie involved
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on May 24, 2018 9:29:36 GMT
Back in the fold again this year! Good news. Don't think I saw it listed anywhere. Certainly wasn't announced as part of the management team when Fitz was given the 3 year deal last year. Like others have said. He seems to be a clever guy.
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Post by greengold35 on May 24, 2018 9:56:31 GMT
Don't think I saw it listed anywhere. Certainly wasn't announced as part of the management team when Fitz was given the 3 year deal last year. Like others have said. He seems to be a clever guy. I think Fitzy has been adding to the management team as the season has progressed - last I heard was that we have 17 in our back room team when you add in physios, medical, strength & conditioning etc - wonder is that what Weeshie Lynch was alluding to in the Indo this week when talking about the size of backroom teams &the associated costs?
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Post by Jigz84 on May 24, 2018 10:37:55 GMT
Excellent news! An estute brain by all accounts cant hurt to have a ex goalie involved Pity he wasn't listened to in 2015.
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