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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 21:08:14 GMT
Fairly experimental line out and the bench even more so. Feels like they are trying to give a bit of game time to lads as a thanks for the efforts to date before they cull the panel.
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Post by clarinman on Mar 23, 2018 21:09:29 GMT
Some amount of midfielders in that 26.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 23, 2018 21:16:03 GMT
Some interesting selections, Griffin at 6 and Buckley at 14 to name two. Good to see, however the ring a ring a rosie lark continues in goals.................
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 23, 2018 21:18:06 GMT
It's a glorified challenge match lads. I wouldn't pay any heed to the team picked or who's missing.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 23, 2018 21:21:48 GMT
Probably a pain in the butt seeing as it is so far away!
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Post by wayupnorth on Mar 23, 2018 21:39:23 GMT
Who's going to score in that forward 6? Every one of them fighting for a place on the Championship panel. Bags of hunger if nothing else.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 23, 2018 21:58:29 GMT
Good team buckley at 14 is interesting as is griffin at 6 i for one am happy to see a bit of experimentation glad to see morley on the bench
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Post by veteran on Mar 23, 2018 22:03:51 GMT
Youth certainly getting its fling in this game as it should be . The wishes of a lot of people coming true in the placing of Mark Griffin at CHB. If his opponent is Peter Harte and he passes that test , well anything is possible for Mark then.
I am not sure if Johnny B. has ever played at FF before. He will certainly contest the llne outs! The last time Johnny and Stephen played together in the attack against Tyrone they did a lot of damage that day in Croke Park.
Is Michael Burns the only player who has started in the same position in every game? Jason has been selected at FB in every game as far as I can think but played out in the half back line for most of the Donegal game.
I would be inclined to play Shane in goals in all the games now. Brian has had a fair crack at consolidating that position in recent years.
There is no pressure on either side but expect plenty of bite and perhaps even a little spite.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 23, 2018 22:07:59 GMT
In fairness to buckley he is a fine footballer but his lack of pace in the 1/2 forward line has been exposed a few times its worth a shot
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 23, 2018 22:28:51 GMT
The constant moaning about Kerry switching goalies is tiresome. Above all positions on the pitch the goalkeeper needs to be match sharp and fit. Game time is essential.
I welcome the fact that management have tried to keep the two lads as competitive as possible for the position. Shane Murphy certainly seems to be the favourite at this point but I for one don't want any panel member becoming complacent about getting the start.
Also it makes perfect sense to reward guys for all the hard work in training (if they're good enough).
Surely the main points of interest are the positioning of Mark Griffin at 6 and Johnny Buckley at 14. Are these hints at what the future may hold ?
Despite the criticism of past selection failures I feel management have always tried out players in positions for a reason and with an eye to the future. That should be lauded.
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Post by gamechanger10 on Mar 23, 2018 22:30:50 GMT
This is a great opportunity to give the lads a good run out and give it a rattle without the house deeds on the table. It’s a pity that we didn’t secure our top flight status for next year a little earlier as it would have been nice to see Griffin at number 6 when he had a few nailed on forwards to develop attack's he had started. We need to see what he can bring to that line and I for one am delighted he is FINALLY getting an opportunity to experiment with his attacking pace without the anchor of responsibility of the number 3 jersey.
One thing the Dubs hate is players running straight at them, I remember two years ago Brendan o Sullivan being brought on in league game and straight away Gavin had runners out instructing players to track him and it was very evident that his pace and direct running style was something they had very much noticed, good luck to all the lads on Sunday.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 23, 2018 23:06:04 GMT
I am very tempted to stay in bed on sunday morning. Its a long way up and down to Omagh for a dead rubber game. Johnny Buckley at full forward amongst other selections?..
My 100% attendance record is in doubt
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 23, 2018 23:07:39 GMT
This is a great opportunity to give the lads a good run out and give it a rattle without the house deeds on the table. It’s a pity that we didn’t secure our top flight status for next year a little earlier as it would have been nice to see Griffin at number 6 when he had a few nailed on forwards to develop attack's he had started. We need to see what he can bring to that line and I for one am delighted he is FINALLY getting an opportunity to experiment with his attacking pace without the anchor of responsibility of the number 3 jersey. One thing the Dubs hate is players running straight at them, I remember two years ago Brendan o Sullivan being brought on in league game and straight away Gavin had runners out instructing players to track him and it was very evident that his pace and direct running style was something they had very much noticed, good luck to all the lads on Sunday. Unfortunately Brendan is not the answer to our problems
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 23, 2018 23:11:12 GMT
Tyrone have Monaghan in May with the winners playing Armagh in early June.
I imagine Tyrone will be further down the road than Kerry due to this so i expect Tyrone to shade it.
That puke football jibe by Spillane will always fire up Tyrone when they play Kerry.
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Post by buck02 on Mar 23, 2018 23:12:25 GMT
Just because Griffin hasn't had the number 6 on his back doesn't mean he hasn't played in the half back line for Kerry before.
Glad Geaney and Clifford are getting a rest.
Sully, if you are going will you put up a bit of detail on the game for us please. Although I wouldn't blame you for staying at home.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 23, 2018 23:40:56 GMT
Just because Griffin hasn't had the number 6 on his back doesn't mean he hasn't played in the half back line for Kerry before. Glad Geaney and Clifford are getting a rest. Sully, if you are going will you put up a bit of detail on the game for us please. Although I wouldn't blame you for staying at home. If I do I will.
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Post by ataboy on Mar 23, 2018 23:50:04 GMT
25th March 2018 in Omagh 1 Brian Kelly Killarney Legion 2 Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht 3 Jason Foley Ballydonoghue 4 Tom O’Sullivan Dingle 5 Cormac Coffey Kerins O’Rahillys 6 Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore 7 Fionn Fitzgerald (Captain) Dr. Crokes 8 Jack Barry Na Gaeil 9 David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys 10 Micheál Burns Dr. Crokes 11Dáithí Casey Dr. Crokes 12 Kevin McCarthy Kilcummin 13 Killian Spillane Templenoe 14 Johnny Buckley Dr. Crokes 15 Stephen O’Brien Kenmare Fir Ionaid: 16 Shane Murphy Dr. Crokes 17 David Clifford Fossa 18 Barry O’Sullivan Dingle 19 Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks 20 Matthew Flaherty Dingle 21 Jack Savage Kerins O’Rahillys 22 Éanna Ó Conchúir An Ghaeltacht 23 Tadhg Morley Templenoe 24 Greg Horan Austin Stacks 25 Brendan O’SullivanValentia 26 Brian Ó Seanacháin Ballydonoghue Bainistíocht Bainisteoir: Éamonn Fitzmaurice (Finuge) Roghnóirí: Mikey Sheehy (Austin Stacks), Pádraig Corcoran (Dingle), Liam Hassett (Laune Rangers), Maurice Fitzgerald (St Marys). Good to see Paul Murphy, Crowley Geaney and BJK left at home and Clifford rested. They've played a lot of football and it's forward thinking. I would like to have seen Foley given a rest also, has possibly played the most football including colleges this year and factor in travelling too. Good to see Coffey, Spillane getting opportunities. And has Eanna O Conchuir deserved a start by now? What is the update on Gavin Crowley and his injury?
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 24, 2018 5:44:56 GMT
Last chance saloon for some of the peripheral panel players and a welcome back to a few old timers - interesting blend and continues the pattern of EF having a look at what is at his disposal. Forward division need to perform as I don’t see too many scorers on the bench if we are struggling for scores with the starters. After this game it begins to get serious .....
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Post by Kingdomson on Mar 24, 2018 8:07:55 GMT
When I hear my fellow hard-nosed Kerry supporters telling us this game is a dead rubber, a challenge game and meaningless, then I know what they’re really saying is we’re probably going to get trounced here and their comforting themselves in advance.
Trying to pretend losing badly to a Mickey Harte managed Tyrone in advance doesn’t really matter is just an exercise in bull*. Tyrone don't want to just beat us tomorrow but give us a hiding to boost their squad and supporters growing confidence and send ours home with doubts. At the elite level no one wants to give ground, especially with the prospects of more important meetings down the line in the offing. Tyrone and Mickey Harte for sure will want to reverse recent trends against the Kingdom.
No more than Tyrone, Kerry will want to exit this league campaign and prepare for the championship on an optimistic note and will be determined not to be bullied again in this league and stand up to a team determined to blow them out of the water. There are squad and playing places up for grabs and markers to be laid down for both sides and I expect a hard hitting battle to test our mettle. In this day and age and at the elite level, it doesn’t matter – give me a break!
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 24, 2018 9:13:15 GMT
Tyrone came to Killarney last year and frankly looked like a team that had trained for about two hours on the morning of the game! They did not seem to give a fiddlers about the points on offer, looked listless throughout and simply went through the motions - 1-12 to 0-06 at half time tells its own story, 1-02 from play in 70+ minutes. At this time of the year, Mickey Harte will be more concerned about NOT showing his hand to his Ulster opponents which I think is proven by the 8 changes he has made to the side from the Mayo game.
There is nothing at stake in this game, its a run out for both sides and a chance for some of the squad players and those returning from injury to get some game time.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 24, 2018 9:32:53 GMT
Suggestions Harte might go with 15 on 15 for this game to take a look at something outside of his usual defensive setup. This is nothing more than a pinch of salt game from Harte & Fitzmaurice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 9:43:42 GMT
Tomorrow's game will be no different to lots of league games in terms of relevance.
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Post by taibhse on Mar 24, 2018 9:48:30 GMT
Johnny Buckley in the full forward line is an interesting experiment. He is the type of tidy skillful player, with an eye for a score that could perform in that confined space. The only thing he is lacking is that yard of pace.
Mark Griffin in the half-back line? I scratch my head when I hear people talking about his speed. What evidence is there that he has anything of the sort? To my eye anyway, Mark’s greatest weakness is his lack of pace and if he has to turn and track runners he will be exposed. He runs out of steam very quickly too and that would be especially alarming as a half-back. Come Championship, I would be amazed if he is a halfback option. Hope I’m wrong though.
With regard to the goalie rotation, why do some find that so unusual in the League? I fully agree with An Bradán Feasa’s common sense reasoning. I too would like to see Shane Murphy get the No 1 shirt when it gets serious.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 24, 2018 10:16:28 GMT
If there was something discernible happening with the goalkeeping thing then it may be valid to rotate both keepers in the league, at a push. But there isn't. It is Hail Mary stuff. Come championship will they flip a coin to see who starts? On top of all that the best young keeper in the county is alienated, for whatever reason. It all adds up to a potential calamity come championship.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 24, 2018 10:47:57 GMT
If there was something discernible happening with the goalkeeping thing then it may be valid to rotate both keepers in the league, at a push. But there isn't. It is Hail Mary stuff. Come championship will they flip a coin to see who starts? On top of all that the best young keeper in the county is alienated, for whatever reason. It all adds up to a potential calamity come championship. If he is the best keeper in Kerry why won't be play in goals for his club enabling him to represent Kerry? You can hardly blame management for that.
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Post by lár na páirce on Mar 24, 2018 10:54:21 GMT
If there was something discernible happening with the goalkeeping thing then it may be valid to rotate both keepers in the league, at a push. But there isn't. It is Hail Mary stuff. Come championship will they flip a coin to see who starts? On top of all that the best young keeper in the county is alienated, for whatever reason. It all adds up to a potential calamity come championship. If he is the best keeper in Kerry why won't be play in goals for his club enabling him to represent Kerry? You can hardly blame management for that. Not his choice,Down to his club manager..Anyway the minuscule amount of club games intercounty players play in shouldnt impact. Was there the same issue when Marc O Sé played in the full forward line for his club?
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 24, 2018 10:55:55 GMT
If there was something discernible happening with the goalkeeping thing then it may be valid to rotate both keepers in the league, at a push. But there isn't. It is Hail Mary stuff. Come championship will they flip a coin to see who starts? On top of all that the best young keeper in the county is alienated, for whatever reason. It all adds up to a potential calamity come championship. If he is the best keeper in Kerry why won't be play in goals for his club enabling him to represent Kerry? You can hardly blame management for that. Really, 3-4 games outfield for his club each year are going to undermine his ability to keep goals for Kerry?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 11:03:40 GMT
If he is the best keeper in Kerry why won't be play in goals for his club enabling him to represent Kerry? You can hardly blame management for that. Really, 3-4 games outfield for his club each year are going to undermine his ability to keep goals for Kerry? If this is really the issue why not play in goals then, what is Ryan trying to prove here?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 24, 2018 11:16:13 GMT
If he is the best keeper in Kerry why won't be play in goals for his club enabling him to represent Kerry? You can hardly blame management for that. Really, 3-4 games outfield for his club each year are going to undermine his ability to keep goals for Kerry? How can EF assess him if he is not playing club football in goals? The lad needs to take ownership of this and speak with his club manager if he wants to play for Kerry. In my eyes the best club keeper is playing for us and the problems are out the field particularly the FB line and the protection it's getting. It wouldn't matter if the greatest keeper in world was in goals if he has no movement in front of him.
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Post by clarinman on Mar 24, 2018 11:45:58 GMT
Really, 3-4 games outfield for his club each year are going to undermine his ability to keep goals for Kerry? If this is really the issue why not play in goals then, what is Ryan trying to prove here? I would argue that Shane Ryan is a better forward than some in the Kerry panel.
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