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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 5, 2018 17:19:27 GMT
No Offence Ballythefireside but I had you down for older than 35 Doesn't "In all my 35 adult years" mean that he's 53??? If I'm sensible enough I'm old enough, remember the longest tooth be in the toothless head! And thanks for the compliment Dano, that I was born an adult, us Capricorns are supposedly auld heads on young shoulders so you are spot on there!
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 5, 2018 17:37:15 GMT
Great match report as usual Veteran. Thanks. 🙂
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 5, 2018 18:03:07 GMT
Today the anglicised Sive would probably be spelled Sadhbh.
Also, Pavee Point are hoping to bring back the term minceir for travellers. I do not know is there any link between this term and tinker.
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Post by buck02 on Feb 5, 2018 19:10:31 GMT
Great comment by Marc O Se on terrace talk.
Tim asked him about the new jersey, Marc said he liked it. Tim said a lot of people were giving out they couldnt figure out who the players were. Marc said maybe they should go to more games.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 19:12:18 GMT
I don't understand, why can't people figure out who the players are?
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Post by Deise Exile on Feb 5, 2018 19:23:18 GMT
Great comment by Marc O Se on terrace talk. Tim asked him about the new jersey, Marc said he liked it. Tim said a lot of people were giving out they couldnt figure out who the players were. Marc said maybe they should go to more games. Class
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Post by southward on Feb 5, 2018 19:33:21 GMT
Wouldn't normally get exercised about such things but I'm really not a fan of those jerseys.
It's not that there's anything intrinsically wrong with the design or anything, but those colours have nothing to do with Kerry. Team colours are part of identity; they matter. At least the blue has the Munster connection and some tradition behind it.
Mind you, I'll get over it if we win Sam wearing that gear but it just feels wrong somehow.
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Post by taggert on Feb 5, 2018 19:48:08 GMT
Marc following the recent trend started by Gooch in his book, Sheehy in his new year sentiments interview, calling out the animals who arent going to games.... Seems its a sore point within the setup.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 5, 2018 20:19:38 GMT
I think it's mostly directed at the social media keyboard warriors. People that never go to a game and still think it is necessary to comment horrible things about players after something they observed in the 10 minute section on the Sunday Game. I never met Marc, but I met Darragh and Tomás, and also the Gooch and they are genuinely interested in what supporters have to say. Even a blow-in like me. I would say they have no problem with constructive criticism, but it is impossible nowadays to stay away from social media and the things you read there, and sometimes even on this forum, is despicable. Some people don't seem to realise that these players are the brothers, fathers, sons, friends and such of many here and on social media and they don't want to read the shoite that is written about the players. I would agree it is a sore point indeed as it can get very personal and very unwarranted. Gone are the days when you would approach a player with the utmost respect to thank them for all the joy they have given us. Nowadays people go home and decide to utterly humiliate and denigrate a player if they have a bad day.
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Post by gamechanger10 on Feb 5, 2018 20:22:14 GMT
Midwest radio have released a report confirming that Evan Regan has a facial fracture fracture as a result of the tackle on Saturday night, this poor kid has received two very serious injuries while playing Kerry in the early rounds of the national league in recent years. I wish him a speedy recovery and full recovery.
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Post by wayupnorth on Feb 5, 2018 20:23:24 GMT
Marc following the recent trend started by Gooch in his book, Sheehy in his new year sentiments interview, calling out the animals who arent going to games.... Seems its a sore point within the setup. Fair enough. But the people who don't go to games aren't likely to complain about the jersey because they won't be looking at it at close quarters. Marc also seemed to suggest that the jersey would be a commercial success. Interesting to see how many are sold.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 20:26:59 GMT
I think it's mostly directed at the social media keyboard warriors. People that never go to a game and still think it is necessary to comment horrible things about players after something they observed in the 10 minute section on the Sunday Game. I never met Marc, but I met Darragh and Tomás, and also the Gooch and they are genuinely interested in what supporters have to say. Even a blow-in like me. I would say they have no problem with constructive criticism, but it is impossible nowadays to stay away from social media and the things you read there, and sometimes even on this forum, is despicable. Some people don't seem to realise that these players are the brothers, fathers, sons, friends and such of many here and on social media and they don't want to read the shoite that is written about the players. I would agree it is a sore point indeed as it can get very personal and very unwarranted. Gone are the days when you would approach a player with the utmost respect to thank them for all the joy they have given us. Nowadays people go home and decide to utterly humiliate and denigrate a player if they have a bad day. By social media keyboard warriors, I assume you are referring to posters on this forum.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 5, 2018 20:34:01 GMT
I think it's mostly directed at the social media keyboard warriors. People that never go to a game and still think it is necessary to comment horrible things about players after something they observed in the 10 minute section on the Sunday Game. I never met Marc, but I met Darragh and Tomás, and also the Gooch and they are genuinely interested in what supporters have to say. Even a blow-in like me. I would say they have no problem with constructive criticism, but it is impossible nowadays to stay away from social media and the things you read there, and sometimes even on this forum, is despicable. Some people don't seem to realise that these players are the brothers, fathers, sons, friends and such of many here and on social media and they don't want to read the shoite that is written about the players. I would agree it is a sore point indeed as it can get very personal and very unwarranted. Gone are the days when you would approach a player with the utmost respect to thank them for all the joy they have given us. Nowadays people go home and decide to utterly humiliate and denigrate a player if they have a bad day. By social media keyboard warriors, I assume you are referring to posters on this forum. Not always. I mostly mean facebook, instagram and twitter comments. Not all Kerry players check this forum regularly, but almost all of them have facebook, twitter and instagram accounts
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Post by mandad on Feb 5, 2018 20:46:27 GMT
Great comment by Marc O Se on terrace talk. Tim asked him about the new jersey, Marc said he liked it. Tim said a lot of people were giving out they couldnt figure out who the players were. Marc said maybe they should go to more games. Mark O’Sé is spot on. I thought I was listening to the wrong Radio station during the Donegal game when I heard an esteemed analyst on Radio Kerry inform listeners that he hadn’t seen Cormack Coffey play before. No wonder they need high visibility numbers.
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Post by Chinatown on Feb 5, 2018 21:23:30 GMT
Marc following the recent trend started by Gooch in his book, Sheehy in his new year sentiments interview, calling out the animals who arent going to games.... Seems its a sore point within the setup. Fair enough. But the people who don't go to games aren't likely to complain about the jersey because they won't be looking at it at close quarters. Marc also seemed to suggest that the jersey would be a commercial success. Interesting to see how many are sold. Have a ‘99 jersey which has served me well and has a few more seasons in it yet. Am looking at purchasing the latest offering. Interesting to know what the sub 30 age group on here think of it?
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 5, 2018 21:51:46 GMT
Great comment by Marc O Se on terrace talk. Tim asked him about the new jersey, Marc said he liked it. Tim said a lot of people were giving out they couldnt figure out who the players were. Marc said maybe they should go to more games. Mark O’Sé is spot on. I thought I was listening to the wrong Radio station during the Donegal game when I heard an esteemed analyst on Radio Kerry inform listeners that he hadn’t seen Cormack Coffey play before. No wonder they need high visibility numbers. Brilliant from Marc - think he was referring to physiognomy rather than attendance!
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Post by baurtregaum on Feb 5, 2018 21:56:40 GMT
Wouldn't normally get exercised about such things but I'm really not a fan of those jerseys. It's not that there's anything intrinsically wrong with the design or anything, but those colours have nothing to do with Kerry. Team colours are part of identity; they matter. At least the blue has the Munster connection and some tradition behind it. Mind you, I'll get over it if we win Sam wearing that gear but it just feels wrong somehow. I can understand the sentiment. It is a departure alright. What I would say about it is that for years guys on here were complaining about Kerry wearing the Munster blue while others counties had moved on from wearing their provincial colours. I have always liked the Munster blue but to each his own. To me this new Jersey is a variation of the gold colour and that is grand as far as I'm concerned. I would have liked if the togs and trim was a dark green myself as it would be more traditional. I think it will sell well to certain supporters who want something different. Meath have a white alternative strip now. It goes without saying that it is fantastic to have Galvin design these as opposed to some fella in O' Neill's painting by the numbers. Paul gave us many great memories and I'm glad the county board trusted him with this.
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Post by A.N. Other on Feb 5, 2018 22:37:17 GMT
Kerry Gaa have uploaded both these photos. Am I the only one that thinks they are different? With the one on the right being a much better shade of gold.
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Post by southward on Feb 5, 2018 22:46:04 GMT
View AttachmentView AttachmentKerry Gaa have uploaded both these photos. Am I the only one that thinks they are different? With the one on the right being a much better shade of gold. The one on the right is fine and makes sense as regards being a Kerry Jersey. It's the other one that appeared in McHale Park though. Looks like the first one after being thrown into the wash along with somebody's pink underpants. Me suspects there's been a f*ckup in the production.
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Post by wayupnorth on Feb 5, 2018 22:53:55 GMT
Maybe it's an optical illusion like the black and blue/ white and gold dress. The one on the right is much better.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 5, 2018 23:21:15 GMT
View AttachmentView AttachmentKerry Gaa have uploaded both these photos. Am I the only one that thinks they are different? With the one on the right being a much better shade of gold. The jersey on the bottom is lovely, apparently using the actual gold from the main jersey.
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Post by A.N. Other on Feb 5, 2018 23:44:41 GMT
I agree, the promo photo is much nicer than the actual jersey. I hope they rectify it.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 5, 2018 23:55:50 GMT
View AttachmentView AttachmentKerry Gaa have uploaded both these photos. Am I the only one that thinks they are different? With the one on the right being a much better shade of gold. The jersey on the bottom is lovely, apparently using the actual gold from the main jersey. It would look ok with green shorts
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Post by Fado on Feb 6, 2018 0:00:00 GMT
Kerrygold it is then.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 6, 2018 8:30:33 GMT
Is this "away" jersey going to be worn at all away games or only when colours clash. The traditional Kerry jersey will not clash with Monaghan next Sunday or against Dublin or away to Throne.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 6, 2018 8:51:48 GMT
I couldn't see that idea getting any traction. The nicest alternative kit Kerry have worn was in the 1981 All-Ireland final. The gold needs to be turned up on the new alternative jersey and lose the black. They are not Kerry colours.
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Post by Jigz84 on Feb 6, 2018 9:42:54 GMT
Very modern and stylish, I like it, will be buying one.
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Post by glengael on Feb 6, 2018 9:48:05 GMT
Is this "away" jersey going to be worn at all away games or only when colours clash. The traditional Kerry jersey will not clash with Monaghan next Sunday or against Dublin or away to Throne. Away jersey is, I hope, a misnomer. As far as I understand it, this 'gold' jersey is only for colour clashes such as Mayo Meath, Offaly and anyone else who we are deemed to clash with, should our paths cross. In all other cases the green and gold is to be worn, regardless of venue. It occurred to me that the gold element of the 1981 jersey would be more appropriate. Certainly the photos show a more gold colour than what has appeared in reality. Thanks for the review Veteran. i have my tickets booked for Sive now! The Abbey did a version about 4 years ago which I enjoyed so I look forward to seeing Druid's interpretation and note your comments. John B was some man.
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Post by glengael on Feb 6, 2018 11:08:15 GMT
I don't understand, why can't people figure out who the players are? yes, what was the basis of Tim Moynihan's question? Was it the ongoing problem with reading the numbers on the jerseys or what was the context? Was there some kind of poll done on Kerry radio about it or was it just one or two texters who commented on it and suddenly became representative of all Kerry supporters? The usual reason I can't figure who players are is that my eyesight isn't great and on occasion match programmes are sold out. Neither of which has anything to do with jerseys or lack of familiarity with the players.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 6, 2018 11:29:24 GMT
I didn't anticipate this win. I got the result during the interval at the Gaeity Theatre . I was enjoying Sive up to that but but my enjoyment was heightened no end when I got that news. Tommy Tiernan played the part of Thomasheen Sean Rua, the matchmaker, and was brilliant. Of course it is a great part with tons of great lines and he is a central figure in the play. A lesser performer could have undone the entire play but Tommy embraced it head on and used all his stage craft to soar. An interesting feature of Sive is that it features two tinkers , that is what they were know as when the play was staged first in the late fifties. Those two characters are a father some known as Pats Bocock and Carhthalawn. Pats has a speaking role and Cartlhalawn sings and plays the bodhran. Interestingly, in this production these roles are played by two women, Marie Mullen and Radie Peat. Marie Mullen is very experienced actress and played the part of Pats Bocock as good as I have seen it interpreted . I had not heard of Radie Peat until Mickmack mentioned her here last week . He said he was a friend of hers asked me them to comment on her performance. Now, these two characters have an important role in the play.. Pats Bocock acts as a kind of local news dispenser /social commentator consequent on his /her calling as a traveller. Whereas Carhalawn function is to sing bitterly about about the unsavoury shenanigans and the untimely ending of the innocent Sive to the accompaniment of the bodhran. How did Radie fare? There is no doubt she has a sweet voice but I do not think she carried off the role to my satisfaction. I feel the berating of the matchmaker and Mena requires a more vigorous , a more abrasive , dare I say it , a more masculine voice to render those compositions of John B to strike home more bitingly. I also felt her playing of the bodhran was too refined. The bodhran is a great weapon to evoke a mood. When the corpse of poor Sive was lying on the slab I felt her singing and playing failed to capture the pathos of the grim , heartbreaking ending of the play. It must be said that the ending was not helped by the inept acting of Liam Scuab(Sean Doyle) Sive's lover. He has a. key part at the end of the play but failed in that role. Indeed he was the weakest actor in the play. All in all , a wonderful night's entertainment. Well worth the trip to Dublin. The ending was a little unsatisfactory for the reasons outlined. Mickmack , I hope you are not offended by my comments on Radie Peat. Remember, it is the opinion of just one person. I have no doubt other people will rave about her contribution. Some auld docksy in the Sindo condemned this Druid production, I saw it in The Tricylce Theatre on Kilburn High Road and where the cast included John Cowley i.e. Tom Riordan, he was also the publican/auctioneer in The Field so like Mick Lally he could carry off John B s plays and there is a pattern here. I often wonder if a lot of criticism is down to individual interpretation of historic events and of which so little is known of the facts in the first place. I just relax and soak these things up and which reminds of my stumbling upon 'The Year of the Hiker', didn't I have to go back again the following night as I was a bit soaked myself the first night, not being prepared for the monstrosity that it is and how much there was to take in, soak up! Anyone who likes John Bs stuff should read 'The Contractors', yes, about our emigrants in the 50's/60s, so true to life is it that some fellas even thought it was written about them and yes, all the characters were in it - the forty something year old concrete king who still hadn't done the dirty deed, a laddo who didn't see out Maynooth, the holier than thou who was hard to please, a range of alcos, the first ever black Co Mayo babby .. yip, the list goes on. I recall John B chatting to one Patrick Bergin of an evening about adapting it for TV and while it would present a challenge, the story is right and that's not a bad start. I have often recommended it for non-book readers and it will carry you with it, so powerful is the connection with the real life characters we'd all be familiar with, loads of scandal and plenty of incidents and accidents we all love to hate, it is as typical John B as one can imagine.
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