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Post by beantownfan on Feb 7, 2018 5:32:35 GMT
I was just able to watch the game now, thanks to the great MickMac for posting the video.. The ref was beyond brutal. The game got out of control on several occasions. The Kerry players well earned their red cards, but the black card on O'Beaglaoi was idiotic - A O'Shea was clearly barging, there was never any question of it.. Cillian O'Connor is becoming a completely annoying piece of work.. Constantly looking to get lads sent off with his holding the face etc. The GAA admin badly need to look at the level of gauding, as it was called in my day, [sledging] and faking of injuries and try to stomp it out. It is contributing to an awful lot of unsavory behavior in games. It is clear as day when watching back some of these games what is going on, why the GAA can't bring in a few rules to harshly punish a few lads retrospectively for such incidents is beyond me. Whether it is Kerry lads, Dublin lads or Mayo lads at it, it should be stomped out.
The Mayo crowd were always hard to listen to, but the booing etc during the game was audible on the TV, seeing some of their comments on various social media around how 'dirty' Kerry were is priceless. A look in the mirror would not go astray.
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Post by wayupnorth on Feb 7, 2018 7:11:31 GMT
The report was a facial fracture. Not necessarily a broken jaw. Fracture of facial bones other than the jaw could conceivably result from a heavy fall on hard ground. Wishing him a speedy recovery nonetheless. In my opinion Shanahans arm caused the injury. Regan didnt seem to fall directly on his face and the ground was soft anyway. In all probability that was the cause but the point being that "facial fracture" is usually less serious and can be caused by a lesser force than that required to break a jaw (lower mandible). A world of difference between "Shanahan broke Regan's jaw" and "contact with Shanahan's arm caused Regan's facial fracture". I see from the report above that Mayo GAA are now adding "concussion" to the facial fracture. Was there any evidence of that seen during the incident?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 7, 2018 7:56:47 GMT
Looking at the video, Shanahan's movements & body shape- its very clear (to me anyway) that its a flimsy attempt at a challenge by a tired player. The upper half of his body barely moves, you can real stiffness in his movements (or lack of etc) and Regan ducks into it. It's extremely unfortunate for Regan and I wish him the speediest of returns but I sincerely doubt it was intentional.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 7, 2018 7:58:42 GMT
Good result against Mayo. Some of your younger guys really looked comfortable on the ball. Geaney is class act. Enjoyable game to watch. I've rewatched the tackle on Regan a few times. It wasn't malicious but definitely dangerous ,although replay seemed to show Regan was caught high on shoulder not jaw. Possibly just badly timed in the heat of the moment. I guess if C o Connor done it to one of ours we would be furious and if Philly done it to anyone their would be uproar. But at the end of the day , Mayo are well able to hit and a bit ironic coming from Keegan. Keegan has so far declined Kerry's invitation to give a workshop on sportsmanship and fair hits.
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Post by Joxer on Feb 7, 2018 8:11:16 GMT
[/quote] I see from the report above that Mayo GAA are now adding "concussion" to the facial fracture. Was there any evidence of that seen during the incident? [/quote]
Yes, I’m afraid it was very obvious that he was concussed as he was leaving the field.
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Post by kerryexile on Feb 7, 2018 8:44:01 GMT
Why all the introspection? Shanahan is a very fair and honest player. Things like this happen – unfortunately.
Are posters reacting to Keegan’s comments.? He got a straight red for kicking out at a Kerry players a few years ago in Croke Park and missed the replay in Limerick. He has been involved in a lot of other incidents – and people take him seriously?
Maybe the message needs to get out there that it’s not that easy to solo through the Kerry defence anymore.
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Post by wayupnorth on Feb 7, 2018 8:50:52 GMT
Why all the introspection? Shanahan is a very fair and honest player. Things like this happen – unfortunately. Are posters reacting to Keegan’s comments.? He got a straight red for kicking out at a Kerry players a few years ago in Croke Park and missed the replay in Limerick. He has been involved in a lot of other incidents – and people take him seriously? Maybe the message needs to get out there that it’s not that easy to solo through the Kerry defence anymore. He did get a straight red but was let off for the replay. I think the effort to reverse the red and the complaints about the venue were a significant distraction.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 7, 2018 8:51:00 GMT
Why all the introspection? Shanahan is a very fair and honest player. Things like this happen – unfortunately. Are posters reacting to Keegan’s comments.? He got a straight red for kicking out at a Kerry players a few years ago in Croke Park and missed the replay in Limerick. He has been involved in a lot of other incidents – and people take him seriously? Maybe the message needs to get out there that it’s not that easy to solo through the Kerry defence anymore.We have conceded five goals in two games, not even one of them even finger tipped by the keeper!
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Post by Kingdomson on Feb 7, 2018 9:28:04 GMT
Lee Keegan is complaining today about Ronan's Shanahan's tackle on Evan Regan which resulted in the latter sustaining a facial injury. Looking at it on Eir yesterday it appeared to me that the tackle was chest high rather than to the face but not sure. Anybody at the match get a good view of the incident? I don't think Lee was too worried where he hit Dean Rock last September when he threw that missile at him! However , it is a shame that Evan sustained that injury regardless of the nature of the tackle. It’s pathetic but Keegans comments are just symptomatic that the day of what happens on the field among players staying on the field is long over. It’s all about influencing the narrative going and more to point, eliciting sympathy from and influencing referees going forward.
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Post by southward on Feb 7, 2018 10:31:15 GMT
Why all the introspection? Shanahan is a very fair and honest player. Things like this happen – unfortunately. Are posters reacting to Keegan’s comments.? He got a straight red for kicking out at a Kerry players a few years ago in Croke Park and missed the replay in Limerick. He has been involved in a lot of other incidents – and people take him seriously? Maybe the message needs to get out there that it’s not that easy to solo through the Kerry defence anymore. We have conceded five goals in two games, not even one of them even finger tipped by the keeper! Have to say the jury's out for me in relation to Shane Murphy. Kick-outs aren't bad but I haven't seen him make a save yet, and even in the modern game this still matters, especially when you cough up as many goal chances as we're doing. Can't help thinking that Brendan Kealy, for instance, would have stopped a couple of those at least. Spilled a poor one on Saturday too that ended up in a handy free in. Hope I'm not being unfair on the lad and it's early days yet, but I remain to be convinced despite the hype.
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Post by stuffoflegends on Feb 7, 2018 10:35:41 GMT
Just out of complete curiosity and given the recent outrage of burnout etc.
What team would ye put out against Monaghan if we couldn't pick the Sigerson boys. I'm struggling big time.
1. B. Kelly 2. Cormac Coffey 3. Shane Enright 4. John Payne 5. Paul Murphy 6. Andrew Barry 7. Matthew Flaherty 8. Greg Horan 9. Brendan O'Sullivan 10. Daithi Casey 11. Michael Burns 12. Stephen O'Brien 13. Barry John Keane 14. Paul Geaney 15. Jack Savage Subs we would be very bare.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 7, 2018 10:40:01 GMT
Any returning players becoming available next weekend?
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 7, 2018 11:28:09 GMT
I think a GAA keeper has a better change of saving a penalty if they stay on their feet till the ball in kicked. If the ball is put into one of the corners so be it but not kickers all are that expert.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 7, 2018 19:33:39 GMT
I was just able to watch the game now, thanks to the great MickMac for posting the video.. The ref was beyond brutal. The game got out of control on several occasions. The Kerry players well earned their red cards, but the black card on O'Beaglaoi was idiotic - A O'Shea was clearly barging, there was never any question of it.. Cillian O'Connor is becoming a completely annoying piece of work.. Constantly looking to get lads sent off with his holding the face etc. The GAA admin badly need to look at the level of gauding, as it was called in my day, [sledging] and faking of injuries and try to stomp it out. It is contributing to an awful lot of unsavory behavior in games. It is clear as day when watching back some of these games what is going on, why the GAA can't bring in a few rules to harshly punish a few lads retrospectively for such incidents is beyond me. Whether it is Kerry lads, Dublin lads or Mayo lads at it, it should be stomped out. The Mayo crowd were always hard to listen to, but the booing etc during the game was audible on the TV, seeing some of their comments on various social media around how 'dirty' Kerry were is priceless. A look in the mirror would not go astray. Refs can only see incidents from one angle and the input of other officials is totally inconsistent for many reasons - I would say the cause of 1 in 4 fouls is unclear but everyone knows that play has to be stopped. Fellas get away with tactics they have perfected but once word gets out then refs don't like being fooled in front of crowds and so don't trust these tacticians any longer, and so the smart laddos lose all the debatable decisions thereafter and which can become even more frustrating if their marker twigs what is going on, i.e. provokes the reaction and the ref duly obliges. Players who obey the ref and play within the rules get any contentious decisions - refs are human and they favour guys who don't cause hassle. Now I know some refs can be bad and at times you'd wonder if there are other agendas with some decisions, but on the other hand it is not so much that it is a hard job as it is often impossible with so much going on and instant decisions have to be made, calls that could be the difference between silver and a kick up the arse - there is only 6" between that kick and a clap in the back as wan Paidi used to remind us? 'Tis a fine line!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 7, 2018 19:45:56 GMT
I think a GAA keeper has a better change of saving a penalty if they stay on their feet till the ball in kicked. If the ball is put into one of the corners so be it but not kickers all are that expert. Diarmuid O'Connor took a perfect peno, moved up keeping his eye on where Murphy was going and made his split second decision. Geaney needs to look at the video and it is surprising that we haven't mastered that set-piece. Goalies can block 20% of the area but the twist is which 20%? Once the striker has his set-piece off y heart then the goalie should have little or no chance. Still Clarke is big and he will have a higher save rate than most, moreover as he is experienced and very confident these days haven proven that he should have been there all along - Mayo could/would have bagged a Sam if he was? The other emerging trend is a flick on a high ball coming in giving the goalie no chance at all, and the higher the better - now where did I see that over the weekend?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 7, 2018 19:57:18 GMT
Its funny how via separate media outlets- Anthony Moyles, Oisin McConville & Colm Parkinson all said that Mayo set out to bully Kerry on Sunday and Kerry stood up to them. Parkinson and the others on his show also had a go at Cillian O Conoor for his constant and blatant diving in every match- this is all from 3 neutrals. People need to see that this howling of derision follows every Mayo loss and is just being fed by goons in the media who need to fill column inches. Watch back the last few mins of the game- the free at the very end that Savage gives away- Colm Boyle grabs him by the neck after and pulls him to the ground- so if this Mayo blogger wants to talk about assault! Also the very last kick of the game was from a free given away by Aidan O Shea for punching Eanna O Connor in the back of the head- Eanna was still holding his head after the game. This Mayo poor mouth, always downtrodden sh*te has gone on too long
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Post by Chinatown on Feb 7, 2018 20:02:57 GMT
Its funny how via separate social media outlets- Anthony Moyles, Oisin McConville & Colm Parkinson all said that Mayo set out to bully Kerry on Sunday and Kerry stood up to them. Parkinson and the others on his show also had a go at Cillian O Conoor for his constant and blatant diving in every match- this is all from 3 neutrals. People need to this howling of derision follows every Mayo loss and is just being fed by goons in the media who need to fill column inches. Watch back the last few mins of the game- the free at the very end that Savage gives away- Colm Boyle grabs him by the neck after and pulls him to the ground- so if this Mayo blogger wants to talk about assault! Also the very last kick of the game was from a free given away by Aidan O Shea for punching Eanna O Connor in the back of the head- Eanna was still holding his head after the game. This Mayo poor mouth, always downtrodden sh*te has gone on too long Just read that Mayo blog. Reads like a Waterford whispers article and one should react to it in same manner.
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Post by southward on Feb 7, 2018 20:09:51 GMT
Peoples Republic of Mayo.
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Post by kerryscoob on Feb 7, 2018 20:22:29 GMT
It's frightening what tripe is on the Mayo site. Shanahan a thug, my God so blinded by love or ignorance. As many have said, in real time it is very hard to see how such an awful injury occurred, feel very sorry for Mayo man, no way would any self respecting GAA supporter get enjoyment out of the incident.
Let's be honest, officials have allowed the game to develop In a way that is turning it into UFC, and I for one was delighted to see the young guns stand up to hardened seasoned players last weekend.
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Post by wayupnorth on Feb 7, 2018 21:16:56 GMT
One thing we have in common with Mayo supporters is that when they beat us we blame ourselves and when we beat them .... they blame us as well.
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Post by decondd2 on Feb 7, 2018 21:34:20 GMT
imgur.com/UqDaKFAPretty clear that any contact with Regan's head is absolutely accidental. Blood boiling stuff reading the Mayo view on it. Even managed to blame Johnny Buckley for Regan doing his collar bone the last time as well!
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Post by trevor73 on Feb 7, 2018 21:38:26 GMT
The guy who runs the site Willie Joe runs it like Nazi Germany too They let themselves down badly in that he deletes any negative comments. Dublin fans are very annoyed with it as it’s constantly whining any time Dublin beat them fair and square. I was enjoying the kerry win on twitter and got told Paidi was right. You’re all f*** animals
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Post by trevor73 on Feb 7, 2018 21:55:41 GMT
2h BohemianDub: There’s talk of boycotting the GAA, petitions being signed, criminal convictions for assault. It’s like one flew over the cuckoo’s nest over there.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 7, 2018 23:27:29 GMT
Come on lads. If Sean OShea or Paul Murphy got that belt there would be a similar reaction from Kerry.
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