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Post by trevor73 on Jan 26, 2018 14:11:06 GMT
I watched Micko for the second time the other day. As a kid I worshipped the team he managed. At the age of 9 I was at that 1982 All Ireland final. Despite living in Mayo my dad had me indoctrinated and I’m so glad he conferred a love of Kerry football to me. That Darby goal was gut wrenching. We all know the Kerry team retreated into an uncharacteristically defensive mindset as the game neared closure and the Sheehy penalty miss was the turning point not forgetting the nudge  I know it’s very early days and this Dublin team is without a doubt a brilliant side but maybe it’s my bias but I don’t think they touch the Kerry side who won four and three in a row. The Dublin media bias is almost ready to hand them the crown as the greatest team of all time. I know they have amazing resilience and character but to me Kerry had far more skilful players. Or is that just my bias. They have not really turned it on finals day like we did or is that because we met lesser sides. I don’t think so. And don’t give me The we hadn’t to peak till later. Dublin have a cakewalk through Leinster. I’m genuinely fearful they will coast to four in a row this year and then we know what happens after that. I’d hate Kerry’s achievements to be usurped. They’ve played incredible and won in a canter albeit against weak Leinster sides and a horrifically defensive Tyrone. I’m not in any way denigrating their achievements but to me this will always be football par excellence Trev |
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Post by trevor73 on Jan 26, 2018 14:21:08 GMT
That moment was WAY too low at number 8. And I don’t believe the Galway goal should have won it. Maurice’s kick V Dublin was my choice but again I’m biased  |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 26, 2018 15:41:06 GMT
I think the only way for this debate to be anyway conclusive is to for Dublin to do something that has never been done before.
That is to do the five-in-a-row.
If they do four, they have every claim. If they do five, only the blinkered could deny them.
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 26, 2018 16:16:39 GMT
That is a prospect that should not be countenanced or even discussed in the dark corners of the remotest outposts of humanity.
If such a notion cannot rouse Kerry nothing will.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 18:02:57 GMT
This Dublin team has changed in personnel a lot more than that Kerry team.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 18:22:55 GMT
The answer is Yes this is the greatest team ever. The standard is higher now than it was in the past. You play more games. Fitness level is at the highest level. Most of those players from the past wouldn't make it now. It takes much more dedication and commitment now than before. Dublin have brought Gaelic Football to a new level that we have never seen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 18:32:47 GMT
based on that criteria, mayo are the 2nd best team of all time.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 26, 2018 20:35:08 GMT
The answer is Yes this is the greatest team ever. The standard is higher now than it was in the past. You play more games. Fitness level is at the highest level. Most of those players from the past wouldn't make it now. It takes much more dedication and commitment now than before. Dublin have brought Gaelic Football to a new level that we have never seen. How good would the Golden Years team have been with modern strength and conditioning though? |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 26, 2018 20:52:56 GMT
The answer is Yes this is the greatest team ever. The standard is higher now than it was in the past. You play more games. Fitness level is at the highest level. Most of those players from the past wouldn't make it now. It takes much more dedication and commitment now than before. Dublin have brought Gaelic Football to a new level that we have never seen. How good with the Golden Years team have been with modern strength and conditioning though? I always think its ridiculous when people say that so and so from the past would not have made it- a lot of what it takes to make it is inner drive, determination and discipline. Those qualities are timeless! We all know of lads with oodles of talent who never made it because they lacked the above |
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Post by gamechanger10 on Jan 26, 2018 21:47:41 GMT
That '70-'80s team blew opposition away with unmerciful ruthlessness and I believe they were extremely unfortunate to lose that day against Offaly. I was in the Canal End that day and I felt the ref kept them in touch with a couple of dubious ones but to be fair if I was from anywhere else I wouldn't have criticised him. Our '06-'08 team was an incredible team as well in my opinion, they had incredible players in every line, our backs were like junk yard dogs, our midfielders like salmon with sharks teeth and our forwards like silk, smoke and daggers. A joy to behold to be fair to them.
The dubs have crawled over the line in all of the last three finals, to me they should have given us a far better beating in '15 as they gave us the runaround outfield that day, in saying that if Donaghy had been given that blatant penalty in the death who knows. Indeed had the Captain been given the opportunity to lead his team that day we could very well have been looking for three in a row ourselves in 2016, they are the margins I guess. Mayo could have taken either of the last two finals if they had even one extra decent forward but in saying all that the dubs to me are the standard bearers, they have the spirit and mentality of champions and will be bloody hard to stop this year. If any team will stop them I think it will be Kerry as we have the forwards to punish them (once we work on any kind of a defensive strategy ) but I still think it's t will be hard to look past Dublin as they have the wind at their backs big time.
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Post by stevieq on Jan 27, 2018 7:28:53 GMT
Will Dublin take our mantle of the greatest of all time ?
NO
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 27, 2018 11:58:00 GMT
Kerry won a four in a row and three in a row in 12 seasons.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 27, 2018 12:59:18 GMT
Not really relevant. Totally different time and different situation.
215 is the number of GAA clubs in Dublin, a bit less than Cork with 260.
Look at the population differences between Kerry and Dublin and the number of GAA club players compared to Dublin.
Dublin has a huge population compared to Kerry and a huge financial and infrastructural advantage over Kerry.
Dublin also has many other sports of course, but the amount of GAA players in the county is staggering.
Add to that the facilities and the financial means of clubs in Dublin and the gap widens further.
Kerry is unique in Ireland in that players from clubs like Dromid, Fossa, na Gaeil, Valentia, and so on can become stars, whereas in other counties they would probably switch to bigger clubs. The divisional system is Kerry's best weapon and has served us well.
Kerry currently have a huge chip on their shoulder when it comes to Dublin and every GAA conversation in Kerry seems to mention Dublin. We seem to be obsessed with Dublin.
But...so are Dublin with us. They can be all blasé about Kerry, but you could feel it in the air in Tralee last year that they were afraid that Kerry of all teams would stop their remarkable unbeaten run of league and championship wins. They don't seem to fear mayo as much, despite Mayo being the second best team in Ireland at the moment.
Everytime Dublin break a record they mention Kerry. They are as obsessed with us as we are with them.
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Post by trevor73 on Jan 28, 2018 21:50:25 GMT
True story this but the Mayo ref as good as admitted to my Dad when he worked as a chef in Mayo that he’d given lenient frees near the end because in his words and I quote ‘ye lot had won enough’ Dad said it wasn’t said in jest cause Dad was lecturing him not in a banter kinda way and words were exchanged |
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