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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 16:12:53 GMT
Give the young guys a go, all fairly hardy. If he's good enough he's old enough.
We need a ballplayer at 11 in the D O'S mould, O Shea / Savage / Clifford a natural fit.
Hard working half forwards, and more protection of the fullback line.
There is no team in the country that could handle these forwards if they get the ball in there hands. 1. S Murphy 2. B Begley 3. J Foley 4. S Enright 5. G White 6. T Morley 7. T O Sullivan 8. D Moran 9. J Barry 10. M Burns 11. S O Shea 12. P Murphy 13. P Geaney 14. D Clifford 15. J O Donoghue
Subs: Kelly, K Young, K Donaghy, J Savage, S O'Brien, M Griffin, D Moynihan, K McCarthy, C Coffey. F Fitz, K Spillane
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 16:17:28 GMT
Missed P Crowley off the subs, like him a lot as a player but he has no speed, but a great man to come in when the pace dies down a bit to cover the centre.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jan 8, 2018 16:20:07 GMT
If the rumors about Shane Ryan are true then it's a disgrace. They expect Rathmore to drop one of their chief scoring treats back to goals because Eamonn wants so? For a few club games he will get in April before the championship? Its like something Joe Schmidt would do with the centrally contacted players in the Irish rugby team.
In fairness I have no idea who is inside our outside the training panel at the moment. What I do know is that we cant pitch up with more or less the same squad of players this year and expect different results. Some players are good players but, not the athletes that are required for the modern game.
Donnachadha, Johnny B, Moran, Maher all floating around the middle third isn't going to work anymore. Having a great engine isn't good enough. You need to have the pace to go with it. We can maybe carry one of these players from 8 to 12. Having half forwards / midfielders that cant go with their man means that we are always susceptible to the overlap.
We drop back players then to counter this but, it means there is too much of a gap from our half backline to our full forward line. The players we have selected don't have the pace to carry the ball. Also by having our players strung across our 45 it only needs one player to be beaten and their is a clear chance on goal.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 8, 2018 18:22:37 GMT
I was talking to a lad from rathmore recently and he said that EF wont consider Ryan while he plays outfield for the club. He said that Ryan is their best forward by a mile and they would be nowhere with him in goal for the club.
He said Ryan would be inter county standard as a forward in most other counties.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 8, 2018 18:26:04 GMT
Give the young guys a go, all fairly hardy. If he's good enough he's old enough.
We need a ballplayer at 11 in the D O'S mould, O Shea / Savage / Clifford a natural fit.
Hard working half forwards, and more protection of the fullback line.
There is no team in the country that could handle these forwards if they get the ball in there hands. 1. S Murphy 2. B Begley 3. J Foley 4. S Enright 5. G White 6. T Morley 7. T O Sullivan 8. D Moran 9. J Barry 10. M Burns 11. S O Shea 12. P Murphy 13. P Geaney 14. D Clifford 15. J O Donoghue
Subs: Kelly, K Young, K Donaghy, J Savage, S O'Brien, M Griffin, D Moynihan, K McCarthy, C Coffey. F Fitz, K Spillane
Interesting line up. Half forward lacking in height but if they play a counterattacking running game they might be ok
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 8, 2018 19:25:16 GMT
The Ryan story doesn't add up. There must be more to it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 20:01:27 GMT
who's likely to come through from the last four minor teams to play at 8 & 9 at senior championship level for Kerry? O'Connor aside. Midfield is not the specialist position it once was. In terms of looking for the next midfield generation, we should cast a wide net not just guys who have played 8 and 9 growing up
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 20:05:18 GMT
The Ryan story doesn't add up. There must be more to it? Did Ryan not want to play in goals for the u21s initially until it was made clear to him that his only chance of being on the panel was as a goalkeeper.
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Post by kerrygold on Jan 8, 2018 20:21:42 GMT
who's likely to come through from the last four minor teams to play at 8 & 9 at senior championship level for Kerry? O'Connor aside. Midfield is not the specialist position it once was. In terms of looking for the next midfield generation, we should cast a wide net not just guys who have played 8 and 9 growing up It is still very specialised. What players coming through in Kerry will compete with the man mountains, Fenton & McCarthy/Parsons & O'Shea bros?
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 8, 2018 20:31:14 GMT
The Ryan story doesn't add up. There must be more to it? Did Ryan not want to play in goals for the u21s initially until it was made clear to him that his only chance of being on the panel was as a goalkeeper. Now that you mention it, i remember reading that at the time
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 8, 2018 20:37:33 GMT
Maybe Rathmore should play cute, stick Ryan in goals, drop to intermediate, win the internediate all ireland, go in with east kerry and win the county title and get paul murphy or share ryan to lift Sam in 2020.
How mickivillian is that
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Post by derry4sam on Jan 8, 2018 22:11:12 GMT
I was talking to a lad from rathmore recently and he said that EF wont consider Ryan while he plays outfield for the club. He said that Ryan is their best forward by a mile and they would be nowhere with him in goal for the club. He said Ryan would be inter county standard as a forward in most other counties. Sorry Mick but this is BS... Not sure where this Ryan has to play in goal for Rathmore thing came from? From what I understand he repeatedly underwhelmed management and players alike when called into the squad last summer and it bemused many how he was making match day panels ahead of Murphy. Perhaps Fitzmaurice was waiting for him to catch fire at the time but their focus has very much turned towards Murphy for the coming season and he will battle it out with Kelly for the position. I very much doubt he's an inter county standard forward to boot. P.S. this was no personal attack Mick, apologies for any offence caused but this Ryan/Rathmore narrative bugs me.
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Post by A.N. Other on Jan 8, 2018 23:03:25 GMT
who's likely to come through from the last four minor teams to play at 8 & 9 at senior championship level for Kerry? O'Connor aside. Am I the only person in Kerry that thinks in 3-5 years Diarmuid O'Connor could be number 8/9 for Kerry. I think this young man is primed for it once the strength and conditioning comes with time.
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 8, 2018 23:06:50 GMT
who's likely to come through from the last four minor teams to play at 8 & 9 at senior championship level for Kerry? O'Connor aside. Am I the only person in Kerry that thinks in 3-5 years Diarmuid O'Connor could be number 8/9 for Kerry. I think this young man is primed for it once the strength and conditioning comes with time. Would not disagree - was good in 2016 (minors) but outstanding last year I thought - very athletic, good engine - certainly has the potential.
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Post by Mickmack on Jan 8, 2018 23:11:55 GMT
I was talking to a lad from rathmore recently and he said that EF wont consider Ryan while he plays outfield for the club. He said that Ryan is their best forward by a mile and they would be nowhere with him in goal for the club. He said Ryan would be inter county standard as a forward in most other counties. Sorry Mick but this is BS... Not sure where this Ryan has to play in goal for Rathmore thing came from? From what I understand he repeatedly underwhelmed management and players alike when called into the squad last summer and it bemused many how he was making match day panels ahead of Murphy. Perhaps Fitzmaurice was waiting for him to catch fire at the time but their focus has very much turned towards Murphy for the coming season and he will battle it out with Kelly for the position. I very much doubt he's an inter county standard forward to boot. P.S. this was no personal attack Mick, apologies for any offence caused but this Ryan/Rathmore narrative bugs me. No problem... I am merely the messenger. The lad i was talking to is totally sincere.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 23:20:35 GMT
If Moran and maher are not available for the league, what are the options. Jack Barry will get a lot of opportunity I assume. Also for Brendan o Sullivan this must be his last chance, he is not exactly a young fella.
Who else could go midfield. Buckley obviously. Would the likes of Morley and mark griffin be realistic options?
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Post by peanuts on Jan 8, 2018 23:23:22 GMT
If Moran and maher are not available for the league, what are the options. Jack Barry will get a lot of opportunity I assume. Also for Brendan o Sullivan this must be his last chance, he is not exactly a young fella. Who else could go midfield. Buckley obviously. Would the likes of Morley and mark griffin be realistic options? I'd like to see Griffin get a run there in the league.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jan 8, 2018 23:41:31 GMT
Are Murphy and Kelly the only two keepers in training?
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Post by Jigz84 on Jan 9, 2018 12:50:08 GMT
David Moran is taking an extended break. Darren O'Sullivan has a broken thumb. Brian O Beagloigh is likely to concentrate on club fixtures for now. From last years team Enright is yet to resume collective training Lyne is rumoured to have retired D Walsh is yet to resume collective training A lot of regulars seemed to be missing but talking to another bystander he told me that Anthony Maher is not returning! Yes, I also heard this was the case.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 9, 2018 13:55:27 GMT
who's likely to come through from the last four minor teams to play at 8 & 9 at senior championship level for Kerry? O'Connor aside. Am I the only person in Kerry that thinks in 3-5 years Diarmuid O'Connor could be number 8/9 for Kerry. I think this young man is primed for it once the strength and conditioning comes with time. He has a lot of potential alright- so hopefully he can come through but other than him there hasnt been another midfielder, from those still in the country, who have shown the ability to make the step up in the short term
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 9, 2018 14:29:30 GMT
Are Murphy and Kelly the only two keepers in training? They were the only keepers in training on last Friday night.
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Post by Fado on Jan 9, 2018 14:29:50 GMT
A lot of regulars seemed to be missing but talking to another bystander he told me that Anthony Maher is not returning! Yes, I also heard this was the case. Seems Anthony has been advised to retire from county football on medical grounds.
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Post by ballybunion on Jan 9, 2018 15:11:11 GMT
Whereas Anthony Maher has had a very serious injury over the last few years he has not made any decision on retirement from Kerry panel.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 9, 2018 19:33:29 GMT
www.hoganstand.com/Donegal/Article/Index/279736Promising Donegal youngster Michael Langan could be ruled out of his county's Allianz League opener against Kerry. According to the Donegal Democrat, the St Michael's clubman, who scored 1-6 in a man-of-the-match display for Declan Bonner's team in their McKenna Cup opening round victory over Queen's last week, has suffered a hernia injury. Langan will definitely miss the remainder of the McKenna Cup campaign and potentially the league clash with the reigning champions in Killarney on Sunday, 28 January. He joins fellow 2017 Ulster U21 winner Cian Mulligan (quad) on the Donegal injury list.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jan 9, 2018 19:36:12 GMT
Odhrán Mac Niallais available for the Kerry clash though. Michael Murphy not available though which will be a huge loss to them. Long line of retirements and injuries in Donegal
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Post by Jigz84 on Jan 10, 2018 9:01:42 GMT
www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kerry-set-to-ring-changes-for-league-campaign-36474252.html?utm_campaign=Contact+Quiboat+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=quiboat&utm_content=&utm_term=Kerry set to ring changes for league campaignKerry football manager Eamonn Fitzmaurice is planning the early part of their league campaign without a number of their most experienced players. And Jonathan Lyne, who played in the 2015 All-Ireland final defeat to Dublin, and Michael Geaney, who featured in the drawn All-Ireland semi-final against Mayo last August before injury ruled him out of the replay, are understood to be no longer part of the panel. David Moran is among those who are not expected to see much league action as he allows for recurring injuries to subside. Donnchadh Walsh is another who will have a delayed return due to his involvement with his club Cromane in the Munster B final on February 3. Fitzmaurice will outline his plans for the season at a Kerry media event next week. Kieran Donaghy has already committed to a 14th inter-county season. ForefrontFitzmaurice is expected to introduce a number of young players during the early stages of the league campaign with Sean O'Shea and David Clifford, members of the more recent All-Ireland minor teams, among those at the forefront. But there has also been a recall for the talented Dr Crokes player Daithi Casey, who was in top form during the county final win over South Kerry last October. Casey had been a member of the 2014 All-Ireland-winning squad but was let go after the 2015 league. Casey will join club colleagues, goalkeeper Shane Murphy and defenders John Payne and Gavin White who have also been called up to the senior squad. Murphy is expected to feature prominently during the league after his performances for Crokes last year, but potentially one of his chief rivals for the No 1 position, Shane Ryan, has declined an invitation to join the squad.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jan 10, 2018 9:03:38 GMT
So looks like Mikey Geaney and Jonathan Lyne are officially no longer part of the panel and that Daithí Casey, John Payne and Gavin White have been called in.
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Post by buck02 on Jan 10, 2018 9:09:20 GMT
Colm Keys using this forum for source material again.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jan 10, 2018 10:55:06 GMT
I just don't get how a player can go from starting 15 to being off the panel entirely as is the case with the two boys.
I know many will disagree but I have great time for Mikey Geaney. Was very good in the NFL final last year. Think he just needs a good run of games
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jan 10, 2018 13:17:28 GMT
I just don't get how a player can go from starting 15 to being off the panel entirely as is the case with the two boys. I know many will disagree but I have great time for Mikey Geaney. Was very good in the NFL final last year. Think he just needs a good run of games Agree regarding league final but too much inconsistency for me and crucially lacks a scoring threat. If anything the lack of scores from HF line is something to be addressed.
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