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Post by buck02 on Mar 19, 2018 13:53:55 GMT
Jayo and Andy Moran will be lucky to escape bans. If there is any consistency there and you look at the bans handed out to Connolly, McEntee and the Clarke defender who apparently squirted water at an umpire, Jayo and Moran will be in trouble. Was thinking the same about Moran. could easily get 3 months if it's in the referees report unless it's deemed dealt with because of the black card. Jayo's incident didn't involve an official as far as I saw so he'll probably be ok. Tony McEntee got a ban for contributing to the melee during the Mayo Galway game in Salthill. Had nothing to do with an official. Jayo ran and shouldered the Galway fella in the back. Similar Offence. On Liam Hassett the last night, he had the earpiece and I think to be fair to him the time he got the shown back to the line by Coldrick was after the wide by Kildare that was given as a point. He was probably told by Sheehy and Fitz in the stand that it was wide and to say it to the ref. Seen as the linesman on the stand side hadn’t done anything about it. Which was no surprise considering who it was!
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Mar 19, 2018 14:23:44 GMT
In fairness to Moran, it was a split-second thing and he backed off straight away. Himself and Deegan shook hands after the card. Jayo isn't exactly a hothead either. I wouldn't be too harsh on them, consistency notwithstanding. On the other hand, if only Hassett could be banned..... I think it’s time a la soccer to introduce a technical area to keep management teams in line. Hassett is nt the only one guilty of multiple incursions and it only adds to the ref s workload. Even better put them in the stand. Watching a Maori is ce running on off pitches ridiculous in my opinion. Yes I agree. If the manager isn't allowed on pitch, they shouldn't be either. Time to put them all behind the wire. Managers included. While they're at it, they should introduce a straight red for any contact with the head, face or neck area. Grabbing by the throat in particular has become a replacement for a dig on the chin, and some player is going to get seriously injured. I don't understand why it wasn't brought in years ago.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 19, 2018 15:09:18 GMT
Was thinking the same about Moran. could easily get 3 months if it's in the referees report unless it's deemed dealt with because of the black card. Jayo's incident didn't involve an official as far as I saw so he'll probably be ok. Tony McEntee got a ban for contributing to the melee during the Mayo Galway game in Salthill. Had nothing to do with an official. Jayo ran and shouldered the Galway fella in the back. Similar Offence. You're right of course. I had forgotten about that.
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 22, 2018 12:41:42 GMT
Jason Sherlock has received a proposed 8 week suspension. Cillian O'Connor and Lee Keegan not available for Sunday with Keegan a big doubt for the Galway game in May.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Mar 22, 2018 13:38:39 GMT
Was thinking the same about Moran. could easily get 3 months if it's in the referees report unless it's deemed dealt with because of the black card. Jayo's incident didn't involve an official as far as I saw so he'll probably be ok. Tony McEntee got a ban for contributing to the melee during the Mayo Galway game in Salthill. Had nothing to do with an official. Jayo ran and shouldered the Galway fella in the back. Similar Offence. On Liam Hassett the last night, he had the earpiece and I think to be fair to him the time he got the shown back to the line by Coldrick was after the wide by Kildare that was given as a point. He was probably told by Sheehy and Fitz in the stand that it was wide and to say it to the ref. Seen as the linesman on the stand side hadn’t done anything about it. Which was no surprise considering who it was! Who was the linesman
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Post by taibhse on Mar 22, 2018 16:39:20 GMT
I find myself reading the discussions on this great Forum on a regular basis and couldn’t resist the temptation to get involved. Supporting Kerry, I need a release valve from time to time. I am expecting that the next decade or so could potentially be very exciting for Kerry football. It looks like Dublin have ‘upped the anti’ again and Galway are coming along nicely with Tyrone and Donegal also lurking closely. Mayo - in decline with no back-up. Cork - not at the races at the moment and will not bother us this decade anyway. I want to assure moderator that I am not a troll and hope to be constructive, positive and fair in my postings. Go easy on me until I find my feet!
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Mar 22, 2018 19:09:40 GMT
A lot can happen in a short time.
Galway flying yes, but so were Roscommon 2 years ago. And Derry 4/5 years ago, beating Dublin and reaching NFL final. Now look where they are.
Each season can tell a very different story.
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Post by southward on Mar 22, 2018 19:19:48 GMT
Tony McEntee got a ban for contributing to the melee during the Mayo Galway game in Salthill. Had nothing to do with an official. Jayo ran and shouldered the Galway fella in the back. Similar Offence. On Liam Hassett the last night, he had the earpiece and I think to be fair to him the time he got the shown back to the line by Coldrick was after the wide by Kildare that was given as a point. He was probably told by Sheehy and Fitz in the stand that it was wide and to say it to the ref. Seen as the linesman on the stand side hadn’t done anything about it. Which was no surprise considering who it was! Who was the linesman Conor Lane.
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Post by southward on Mar 22, 2018 19:31:05 GMT
Reports today that Andy Moran won't face further sanction but Sherlock is looking at eight weeks.
Ok, Jayo was offside and there's precedent but what harm did he do really, it was only an aul shove. Put that beside that Padraig McNulty's Schumacher-esque assault on Keegan, for which the Tyrone man will just miss one dead rubber game, and you'd really have to wonder about the disciplinary code. Leeroy looks like he'll be out for a good while.
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Post by buck02 on Mar 22, 2018 20:19:40 GMT
Reports today that Andy Moran won't face further sanction but Sherlock is looking at eight weeks. Ok, Jayo was offside and there's precedent but what harm did he do really, it was only an aul shove. Put that beside that Padraig McNulty's Schumacher-esque assault on Keegan, for which the Tyrone man will just miss one dead rubber game, and you'd really have to wonder about the disciplinary code. Leeroy looks like he'll be out for a good while. Fully agree. The authorities should also have re-looked Colm Boyle's challenge for which he only got a yellow card. It was almost as bad as McNulty's.
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Post by mafi97 on Mar 22, 2018 20:28:58 GMT
It won't happen, but there should be a category of offence where the length of the suspension should be whatever the amount of time it takes the injured player to return to the game.
To avoid any manipulation of chicanery, an independent medical body should certify when the injured player is ready to return.
It would make the thuggish element (and management) think twice about taking a player out of the game.
I am not that fond of Lee Keegan - but, I detest that type of foul.
Like I said, it won't happen.
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Post by southward on Mar 22, 2018 21:46:02 GMT
Reports today that Andy Moran won't face further sanction but Sherlock is looking at eight weeks. Ok, Jayo was offside and there's precedent but what harm did he do really, it was only an aul shove. Put that beside that Padraig McNulty's Schumacher-esque assault on Keegan, for which the Tyrone man will just miss one dead rubber game, and you'd really have to wonder about the disciplinary code. Leeroy looks like he'll be out for a good while. Fully agree. The authorities should also have re-looked Colm Boyle's challenge for which he only got a yellow card. It was almost as bad as McNulty's. Here's the two of them...
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 22, 2018 22:49:18 GMT
Reports today that Andy Moran won't face further sanction but Sherlock is looking at eight weeks. Ok, Jayo was offside and there's precedent but what harm did he do really, it was only an aul shove. Put that beside that Padraig McNulty's Schumacher-esque assault on Keegan, for which the Tyrone man will just miss one dead rubber game, and you'd really have to wonder about the disciplinary code. Leeroy looks like he'll be out for a good while. Of late the authorities seem to have much more of an appetite for punishing any misbehaviour by non-players. I can't help but wonder if this is because they are a softer target.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 22, 2018 22:50:35 GMT
Keegan got off lightly enough with a dislocated shoulder. Really shocking. Keegan was totally blind to it.
The other was bad too but at least the Tyrone player saw it coming.
I agree about Jayo. Past history should count for something and Jayo has never been in trouble as a player in my memory serves me correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 14:34:35 GMT
The clampdown on non players in these type of incidents is the current area of focus for the gaa. A nothing incident really but not surprising they are going down this route.
The keegan one was a shocker
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Post by dc84 on Mar 23, 2018 15:01:38 GMT
Horrible "challenge" i thought the sherlock one was funny id say the galway lad hardly noticed not quite on the galvin incident v armagh in 2006 level!
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 23, 2018 23:43:38 GMT
I think it’s time a la soccer to introduce a technical area to keep management teams in line. Hassett is nt the only one guilty of multiple incursions and it only adds to the ref s workload. Even better put them in the stand. Watching a Maori is ce running on off pitches ridiculous in my opinion. Yes I agree. If the manager isn't allowed on pitch, they shouldn't be either. Time to put them all behind the wire. Managers included. While they're at it, they should introduce a straight red for any contact with the head, face or neck area. Grabbing by the throat in particular has become a replacement for a dig on the chin, and some player is going to get seriously injured. I don't understand why it wasn't brought in years ago. A certain past Kerry midfielder patented the "grab the jersey at the throat and punch or give a dig" move. Was never pulled on it despite it being technically striking a player. It looked innocent enough but did enough damage.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 25, 2018 13:50:41 GMT
The first really "knockout" game of the season takes place between Donegal and Mayo.
I don't think Mayo are as bad as they appeared in some games and expect them to come through.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 25, 2018 15:56:29 GMT
Mayo got the three last points to draw the game so Donegal are relegated by a one point score difference
It was the young Mayo players that caught the eye towards the end, Boland, Coen, O'Donoghue at corner back and Loftus. The final two points were brilliant long range efforts from O'Donoghue and Kevin McLaughlin.
The equalizer went over on 73 mins and 30 seconds. Mayo started a row then. The ref wasted a minute to book two players. He then drew the final whistle on the kickout. Donegal were livid. Streetwise Mayo stay up.
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Post by clarinman on Mar 25, 2018 16:08:30 GMT
Mayo got the three last points to draw the game so Donegal are relegated by a one point score difference It was the young Mayo players that caught the eye towards the end, Boland, Coen, O'Donoghue at corner back and Loftus. The final two points were brilliant long range efforts from O'Donoghue and Kevin McLaughlin. The equalizer went over on 73 mins and 30 seconds. Mayo started a row then. The ref wasted a minute to book two players. He then drew the final whistle on the kickout. Donegal were livid. Streetwise Mayo stay up. Donegal were not relegated on score difference. Donegal finished on 3 points, mayo on 5.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 25, 2018 16:37:21 GMT
God that is two horrendous games on tg4 today awful hard to watch
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 25, 2018 17:48:34 GMT
Mayo got the three last points to draw the game so Donegal are relegated by a one point score difference It was the young Mayo players that caught the eye towards the end, Boland, Coen, O'Donoghue at corner back and Loftus. The final two points were brilliant long range efforts from O'Donoghue and Kevin McLaughlin. The equalizer went over on 73 mins and 30 seconds. Mayo started a row then. The ref wasted a minute to book two players. He then drew the final whistle on the kickout. Donegal were livid. Streetwise Mayo stay up. Donegal were not relegated on score difference. Donegal finished on 3 points, mayo on 5. Sorry..you are correct. A lot turned on that last minute point by Casey v Donegal
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 25, 2018 20:28:36 GMT
Donegal were not relegated on score difference. Donegal finished on 3 points, mayo on 5. Sorry..you are correct. A lot turned on that last minute point by Casey v Donegal Before today I was telling my Donegal boozing buddies that Div 2 may turn out better for them and they probably thought I was going soft in the ceann, until I detailed a bita logic - so next year they could have a run of victories taking them into the Ulster Championship, and with 'a winning team being a winning team' that extra forward propulsion/momentum will have them a better bonded unit, better than slogging through Div 1 and which is a prep exercise anyway?, hardly compares to an Ulster and definitely not a Sam. The white heat of Clones on Ulster Final Day won't be anything new and as they are working to a 3/4 year new era plan, Div 2 might turn out to be a big plus. I suppose the devil is in the detail and that they are in the most/only competitive province is a big part of the 'logic' - Div 2 wouldn't be so fortunate for teams in the other provinces, and probably least of all Mayo, although they did have a few nice rookies on display today, and despite the League my Connaught snout always expected them to account for Galway in May. I have now seen today's TG4 games and they were both entertaining, albeit 'tis the first day of new time and all the joys of Spring it brings. Conditions also helped and I wonder what some of us are expecting, moreover what was/wasn't at stake. Ah jazus sure 'twas exciting if nothing else and it was a good League - compliments to those who threaded the boards, a lot of sweat for us to feast our porter eyes and exercise our jaws. Ballythefireside Quote of The Day - Thank God the points scored from the high stool aren't televised - they're hard enough to listen to.
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Post by southward on Mar 25, 2018 20:45:53 GMT
Two games without a win now - Dubs in decline
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 25, 2018 22:51:29 GMT
Dublin played with no discernable plan. The repetitive horseshoe pattern around the attack and the player on the loop to create a score wasn't used at all. They are probably working on something different for Galway on Sunday.
The most striking thing was that in the absence of a plan they were very ordinary. You would expect players that have played so much together to automatically knit together and appear to be some way cohesive. They weren't.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 26, 2018 6:47:34 GMT
Dublin played with no discernable plan. The repetitive horseshoe pattern around the attack and the player on the loop to create a score wasn't used at all. They are probably working on something different for Galway on Sunday. The most striking thing was that in the absence of a plan they were very ordinary. You would expect players that have played so much together to automatically knit together and appear to be some way cohesive. They weren't. Not sure about the lack of a game plan id say they are much like anyteam take out a fair chunk of their special players like cluxton,cooper,connolly,kilkenny, o callaghan, brogan o sullivan and they are the same as most other teams. Life after cluxton wont be that rosy looking at the alternative.
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Post by glengael on Mar 26, 2018 8:12:55 GMT
Fair play to Monaghan. A noteworthy win for them.
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 26, 2018 8:25:15 GMT
Rory Beggan's distribution is phenomenal, maybe even better than Cluxton's?
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Post by peanuts on Mar 26, 2018 8:57:15 GMT
Howard kicked 2 fantastic points (he may have scored more than 2 in total) for Dublin yesterday especially their last point to equalise. Looks like a real player.
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 26, 2018 9:04:47 GMT
Mayo got the three last points to draw the game so Donegal are relegated by a one point score difference It was the young Mayo players that caught the eye towards the end, Boland, Coen, O'Donoghue at corner back and Loftus. The final two points were brilliant long range efforts from O'Donoghue and Kevin McLaughlin. The equalizer went over on 73 mins and 30 seconds. Mayo started a row then. The ref wasted a minute to book two players. He then drew the final whistle on the kickout. Donegal were livid. Streetwise Mayo stay up. McBrearty's two kicks that dropped short were criminal, especially the last one when Mayo went down the field and levelled. He's a good player but terribly selfish at times. I think it's obvious the referee should've added on more time.
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