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Post by southward on Sept 2, 2018 22:30:30 GMT
This was a massive win against a fine Galway side. They clung on in the first half with little possession but got the last two scores before half time. Galways subs didnt have the same effect as Kerrys. Galway couldnt handle Ruairi o'B when he came on. Kerry did much better at midfield in the second half with Sean o Shea playing a big part. Kerrys score taking was more clinical than Galways and that was the difference. This is a game worth watching in the winter darkness. Too even sides having a cut at it. I though the ref was hard on Galway a few times.No Hogan cup winning side to draw on this year so this is a really great achievement. Congrats to all and sundry. It warmed the cockles of my heart. I didn't think he favoured either side but he sure was whistle-happy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 23:06:26 GMT
Great win. Looked like the occasion got to them in the first half and they seemed nervous. Second half much better really got going.
Paul O'Shea was excellent Killian Falvey tremendous work rate. O'Beaglaoich made a huge difference when he came on. Dan Murphy put in a great effort at the back the whole game.
Conor Flannery and Owen Fitzgerald were up against two tricky forwards but stuck to them like glue.
Overall well done to everyone involved. Will win it again next year I think.
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Post by hatchetman on Sept 2, 2018 23:14:26 GMT
How many are under age next year?
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Post by Jo90 on Sept 3, 2018 0:04:48 GMT
Great win. Even at 7 points down I still had hope. Their mettle was tested and proven against Monaghan.
Some good statistical stats about the match on Twitter by @matthew41109590 The one on kick out locations was interesting especially the length of the Kerry kickouts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 2:42:42 GMT
Forwards 2019
Dylan Geaney Jack O'Connor Colin Crowley Gearoid Hassett Cian O'Connor Niall McGillicuddy Devon Burns Cathal O'Beaglaoich Dylan O'Callaghan Cian Foley Shane Bastible Jack Sheehan Emmet O'Shea Cian McMahon to name a few.
Midfielders 2019
Adam Curran Eoghan O'Sullivan Emmet Finian Joe Linehan Armin Heinrich
Backs 2019
Alan Dineen Luke Chester Ruairi Doyle Kieran O'Sullivan Enda O'Connor Cian O'Leary Dara Slattery Seamus Lyne Aidan Behan Seamus O'Loinsigh Joey Nagle Dominic Finnegan
Goalkeepers 2019
Cian Ring Shane O'Sullivan Sean Broderick William Casey.
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Post by Jigz84 on Sept 3, 2018 7:47:24 GMT
Paul O'Shea was the man of the match for me, some performance from him in the second half. Walsh is an excellent playmaker and cute enough to draw handy fouls.
Peter Keane instills a great belief in his teams. They've all been well set-up and drilled, with everyone knowing their role.
Hopefully he gets the Senior gig.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 8:30:25 GMT
Paul O'Shea was the man of the match for me, some performance from him in the second half. Walsh is an excellent playmaker and cute enough to draw handy fouls. Peter Keane instills a great belief in his teams. They've all been well set-up and drilled, with everyone knowing their role. Hopefully he gets the Senior gig. I agree, he has overseen three of the five minor titles so he would know the majority of players involved like the back of his hand. Surely he's the one to bring these guys into the senior ranks.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 3, 2018 8:56:12 GMT
Unprecedented success at minor level. Congrats to PK & is management team and to JOC and his management team before. Huge credit must also go to the people working and coaching in the background with the development squads. Five in a row at minor level is phenomenal.
To the game itself, the players really dug in and went after their win in the second half. Very impressive from such young players. The two points just before half time were critical.
This win and the sprinkle of young players coming through to the senior team this year will shorten the winter.
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Post by kerryexile on Sept 3, 2018 10:54:48 GMT
Now that the dust has settled it only right that enormity of yesterday’s win be acknowledged.
The win is a major achievement for Peter Keane. He took a bunch of players that couldn’t legally have any experience from last year and moulded them into a winning team to follow the previous 4 teams. The way they dealt with the severe tests they got in the final and semi-final showed how they were coached. They did the right thing all the time. At that young age it often required them to be unrushed for the sake of accuracy. In both games this allowed the opposition come back at them following early dominance. Again in both games the ultimate reward came when opportunities late in the game were taken like mature seniors. The more skilful the player the less effect tiredness has on accuracy.
Another striking thing was how players were played in their natural positions which gives good balance all over the pitch. Different positions require different types of players. Kerry came up trumps in most positions. Some teams put out by Jack O’Connor seem to consist of a keeper and 14 wing forwards so the mettle isn’t there when battle starts.
Paul O’Shea is a special talent and seems to have everything.
I don’t agree with the age reduction for minors. Even though it is only 1 year it makes it “schoolboy football” rather than young adult football. A lot of people with a ticket for the AIF whose county isn’t involved in the minor final would have an extra point rather than go in and watch it.
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 3, 2018 11:05:11 GMT
Great achievement as already stated by previous contributors - as well as the excellent physical preparations, the mental strength displayed over the past five years has been exceptional and this was so evident with this young team in particular. They dug out victories in tight games and in games when it looked to be going against them - something our seniors have been lacking. Not sure if this is part of the "winning habit" metality or part of the actual preparations.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 3, 2018 11:05:17 GMT
Now that the dust has settled it only right that enormity of yesterday’s win be acknowledged. The win is a major achievement for Peter Keane. He took a bunch of players that couldn’t legally have any experience from last year and moulded them into a winning team to follow the previous 4 teams. The way they dealt with the severe tests they got in the final and semi-final showed how they were coached. They did the right thing all the time. At that young age it often required them to be unrushed for the sake of accuracy. In both games this allowed the opposition come back at them following early dominance. Again in both games the ultimate reward came when opportunities late in the game were taken like mature seniors. The more skilful the player the less effect tiredness has on accuracy. Another striking thing was how players were played in their natural positions which gives good balance all over the pitch. Different positions require different types of players. Kerry came up trumps in most positions. Some teams put out by Jack O’Connor seem to consist of a keeper and 14 wing forwards so the mettle isn’t there when battle starts. Paul O’Shea is a special talent and seems to have everything. I don’t agree with the age reduction for minors. Even though it is only 1 year it makes it “schoolboy football” rather than young adult football. A lot of people with a ticket for the AIF whose county isn’t involved in the minor final would have an extra point rather than go in and watch it. Ya, I'd like to see it revert back to u18. The u20 grade looks good on the other hand.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 3, 2018 11:13:40 GMT
I have to say that i though the u17 competition was excellent and the standard was outstanding. Better than a lot of u18 football i have seen over the years.
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Post by allrounder on Sept 3, 2018 12:06:31 GMT
Very poor by Kerry. That's an average Cork side. There is players in the County that should be playing that are not and that will come back to bite them. I can only seeing them winning Munster and that's it unless there are some changes.
I'll just leave this here
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 3, 2018 12:16:05 GMT
I think in time the curtain raiser to the senior final might be another senior final.
I think for the sake of lads in Leaving Cert, the U-17 should remain as is and the U-20s moved to U-21s.
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 3, 2018 12:17:31 GMT
How many holders of AI medals do we now have from our successful drive for 5? Tyrone once had holders of 56 that werent on the senior panel, bearing mind that some may have more than one, though this year none of ours were on last years panel. 56 must be 3 years so we must have roughly 95, if say 20% come through plus fellas like paul murphy who matured late, the future is bright. The other stat is what is peak age. As i type clifford and howard are young pkayer of the year awards and sean cavanagh thinks dacid cud also get footbsller of the year, tho in fairness AI champs will get rub of the green - ah we all get this advantage in turn. Panels have tended to be 30/32 each year with up to ten of the extended panel carrying over to the following year. This would give about 130 lads with minor medals from the 5 successes - with maybe 30 having two.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 3, 2018 12:18:20 GMT
Very poor by Kerry. That's an average Cork side. There is players in the County that should be playing that are not and that will come back to bite them. I can only seeing them winning Munster and that's it unless there are some changes.
I'll just leave this here
nacrocaigh...KEEP CALM and carry on... let it go straight over your head.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 3, 2018 12:21:48 GMT
There was a score for the ages by Kerry yesterday. Paul o Shea got possession and hit a footpass into Geaney arms. Geaney spun and kicked a point from the wing. As good as i have ever seen. I understand Paul and David Clifford are first cousins.
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 3, 2018 12:23:07 GMT
Now that the dust has settled it only right that enormity of yesterday’s win be acknowledged. The win is a major achievement for Peter Keane. He took a bunch of players that couldn’t legally have any experience from last year and moulded them into a winning team to follow the previous 4 teams. The way they dealt with the severe tests they got in the final and semi-final showed how they were coached. They did the right thing all the time. At that young age it often required them to be unrushed for the sake of accuracy. In both games this allowed the opposition come back at them following early dominance. Again in both games the ultimate reward came when opportunities late in the game were taken like mature seniors. The more skilful the player the less effect tiredness has on accuracy. Another striking thing was how players were played in their natural positions which gives good balance all over the pitch. Different positions require different types of players. Kerry came up trumps in most positions. Some teams put out by Jack O’Connor seem to consist of a keeper and 14 wing forwards so the mettle isn’t there when battle starts. Paul O’Shea is a special talent and seems to have everything. I don’t agree with the age reduction for minors. Even though it is only 1 year it makes it “schoolboy football” rather than young adult football. A lot of people with a ticket for the AIF whose county isn’t involved in the minor final would have an extra point rather than go in and watch it. Ya, I'd like to see it revert back to u18. The u20 grade looks good on the other hand. Not a fan of the U17 age and would prefer it to be u18 or 19 - think the u20 leaves too much of a gap between Underage and senior for the majority of players, this applies both for clubs keeping lads interested and county for progression of the better players. The big BUT for me here is the GAA need to take the U20/21/22 grade seriously and stop paying lip service to it. Its a grade that is squashed into the calendar both at club and intercounty level with the emphasis being on getting it run off expeditiously. For me its a crucial competition/age that needs more attention and thought.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 12:56:25 GMT
I'll just leave this here
nacrocaigh...KEEP CALM and carry on... let it go straight over your head. It’s ok the same tool said Laune Rangers would win Division 3 so there you go.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 3, 2018 14:51:32 GMT
Calling up people's predictions- especially when you have made none yourself- is prob the most tedious aspect of sports discussions.
Kerry werent great against Cork in the munster final but have developed throughout the year and improved- that can happen with young players (they can also regress) as they are immature and still growing.
Lets just agree on the fact that the management improved them throughout the season and this is a good sign for the furure
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 3, 2018 15:27:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 15:27:10 GMT
There was a score for the ages by Kerry yesterday. Paul o Shea got possession and hit a footpass into Geaney arms. Geaney spun and kicked a point from the wing. As good as i have ever seen. I understand Paul and David Clifford are first cousins. Not sure about that
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 15:27:55 GMT
nacrocaigh...KEEP CALM and carry on... let it go straight over your head. It’s ok the same tool said Laune Rangers would win Division 3 so there you go. You nearly let it go!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 3, 2018 15:56:20 GMT
It has been my opinion for quite a while that predictions are nothing more than a bit of craic.
Far more interesting to talk about games after they have taken place rather than before.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 3, 2018 15:59:13 GMT
There was a score for the ages by Kerry yesterday. Paul o Shea got possession and hit a footpass into Geaney arms. Geaney spun and kicked a point from the wing. As good as i have ever seen. I understand Paul and David Clifford are first cousins. Not sure about that not sure about what?
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Post by veteran on Sept 3, 2018 16:25:55 GMT
At half time in the senior match , as far as I can recall, Joe Brolly claimed one of the Dublin points was the best he had seen at Croke Park. I am not sure which point he was referencing but saying anybody or anything is the greatest is an extravagant claim. The most one could say, usually, is that somebody or something is the greatest. In that context, Mickmack correctly commented on a score in the minor match.
Paul O'Shea won possession at midfield in the second half, in a flash he kicked it with long with a low trajectory. Dylan Geaney came out, grasped it and shot instantaneously over the bar. It was a truly great score for any age group but especially these young colts.
I have seen all Kerry's minor games this year and there is no doubt , in what is essentially a well balanced unit, Paul O'Shea has been the most consistently outstanding performer. He seems to possess all the ingredients- hands, feet, stamina and temperament. Strong too. He is so relaxed that he appears to be bordering on the casual at times. Paul has this, almost unique, facility for fielding a ball in a clutch of players and then knifing his free with the ball controlled in one hand before dispatching it in a most controlled fashion. It is likely that a lot of people on here did not see him against Cork in Tralee where defeat would have finished Kerry's year. He was just extraordinary that night ranging, indefatigably, from one end line to the other. It was a remarkable performance and there is no question that without him Kerry would not have triumphed , even though it is invidious to single out one player. Most of his other performances did not fall too far below that level.
I have been wondering who he reminds me of. The player that comes to mind is Willie Bryan of Offaly, similar nonchalant, laconic style. The eternal question of course is will he develop into the senior he threatens to be ?
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Post by Kingdomson on Sept 3, 2018 18:20:21 GMT
At half time in the senior match , as far as I can recall, Joe Brolly claimed one of the Dublin points was the best he had seen at Croke Park. I am not sure which point he was referencing but saying anybody or anything is the greatest is an extravagant claim. The most one could say, usually, is that somebody or something is the greatest. In that context, Mickmack correctly commented on a score in the minor match. Paul O'Shea won possession at midfield in the second half, in a flash he kicked it with long with a low trajectory. Dylan Geaney came out, grasped it and shot instantaneously over the bar. It was a truly great score for any age group but especially these young colts. I have seen all Kerry's minor games this year and there is no doubt , in what is essentially a well balanced unit, Paul O'Shea has been the most consistently outstanding performer. He seems to possess all the ingredients- hands, feet, stamina and temperament. Strong too. He is so relaxed that he appears to be bordering on the casual at times. Paul has this, almost unique, facility for fielding a ball in a clutch of players and then knifing his free with the ball controlled in one hand before dispatching it in a most controlled fashion. It is likely that a lot of people on here did not see him against Cork in Tralee where defeat would have finished Kerry's year. He was just extraordinary that night ranging, indefatigably, from one end line to the other. It was a remarkable performance and there is no question that without him Kerry would not have triumphed , even though it is invidious to single out one player. Most of his other performances did not fall too far below that level. I have been wondering who he reminds me of. The player that comes to mind is Willie Bryan of Offaly, similar nonchalant, laconic style. The eternal question of course is will he develop into the senior he threatens to be ? The other external question that should concern all of us who care for the future of Kerry football is, will the see only profit vultures swoop from Australia promising fields of gold?
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Post by mandad on Sept 3, 2018 19:34:24 GMT
It’s always of interest to me when I see a familiar name pop up on underage teams. The one that jumps out of this minor team is that gem of a wing forward - Killian Falvey of Annascaul.
I would not be surprised if he was in some way connected to the Falveys that played with Kerry teams of the 50’s. My recollection of them was that they originally came from the Strand Road area and played with The Blues. I have vague memories of seeing Dinny Falvey play at full forward with Kerins O’Rahilly’s and later with West Kerry. He was a bustling type of player who gave his all for the side and would lift the crowd when he contested for the ball. Full of heart as they used to say. Just curious.
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Post by veteran on Sept 3, 2018 19:59:20 GMT
Regarding relationship between David Clifford and Paul O’Shea - read someplace today that Paul’s dad and David’s mum are siblings.
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Post by clarinman on Sept 3, 2018 19:59:52 GMT
It’s always of interest to me when I see a familiar name pop up on underage teams. The one that jumps out of this minor team is that gem of a wing forward - Killian Falvey of Annascaul. I would not be surprised if he was in some way connected to the Falveys that played with Kerry teams of the 50’s. My recollection of them was that they originally came from the Strand Road area and played with The Blues. I have vague memories of seeing Dinny Falvey play at full forward with Kerins O’Rahilly’s and later with West Kerry. He was a bustling type of player who gave his all for the side and would lift the crowd when he contested for the ball. Full of heart as they used to say. Just curious. Darragh Lyne midfield is one of the Lynes of Cleeney as far as I know. There's some pedigree there.
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