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Post by lár na páirce on Nov 15, 2017 10:48:12 GMT
Crazy that we are not entering the McGrath Cup this year,Amazingly Fitzmaurice doesn't see this as an opportunity to have a look at 20 young fringe players
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 15:13:58 GMT
Bryan Sheehan has retired from i/c football
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 15:30:10 GMT
Crazy that we are not entering the McGrath Cup this year,Amazingly Fitzmaurice doesn't see this as an opportunity to have a look at 20 young fringe players Pretty sensible. The league starts earlier so the focus will be on preparation for this, not just fielding a team in the McGrath cup for the sake of it
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 19, 2017 17:02:30 GMT
These January tournaments serve no purpose now. Time to bin them. Start the National Leagues in mid January.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 17:51:31 GMT
First time in a while now that Kerry will have all players available for the start of the NFL with a number of the young Crokes players to come in to the setup.
It will make the NFL more interesting. Last years league was probably one of the best NFLs played.
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Post by mossie on Nov 26, 2017 17:59:07 GMT
Hard luck Crokes, better team on the day won
time to get NFL game time into Gavin White and Shane Murphy now
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 26, 2017 20:05:28 GMT
First time in a while now that Kerry will have all players available for the start of the NFL with a number of the young Crokes players to come in to the setup. It will make the NFL more interesting. Last years league was probably one of the best NFLs played. Ruling out anyone from An Gaeltacht or Dromid being involved with Kerry are you? Intermediate and Junior All-Ireland Finals are on the 3rd of February which is the 2nd round of league next year.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 20:21:22 GMT
What are we looking at here, one panalist from An Gaeltacht? Pretty much a clear road for EF.
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Post by veteran on Nov 26, 2017 21:31:39 GMT
What are we looking at here, one panalist from An Gaeltacht? Pretty much a clear road for EF. Brian O'Beaglaoigh, Cathal O'Lung, Riobaird O'Se, Tomas O'Se, Eoghan O'Conchuir- bases on what I,saw with Kerry juniors and An Ghealtacht.
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Post by peanuts on Nov 27, 2017 13:58:24 GMT
What are we looking at here, one panalist from An Gaeltacht? Pretty much a clear road for EF. Brian O'Beaglaoigh, Cathal O'Lung, Riobaird O'Se, Tomas O'Se, Eoghan O'Conchuir- bases on what I,saw with Kerry juniors and An Ghealtacht. O'Beaglaoigh and O'Luing were on the panel/extended panel last year and Eanna is supposedly part of the current training panel, not sure about the O'Ses but they would certainly be there or thereabouts.
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Post by Jigz84 on Nov 28, 2017 15:12:50 GMT
Roibeard Ó Sé is definitely worth a look at during the League.
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Post by buck02 on Dec 7, 2017 8:44:18 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 7, 2017 10:16:03 GMT
You'd wonder has the game lost its soul with the influx of coaches from other sport that has changed the game dramatically in the last decade. The more you look at formations in other sports, soccer, basketball, rugby etc the more GAA begins to look like versions of these. Gaelic football is now a soccer formation, just with more players and the handpass, with play building from the back through the middle third into attack in a rigid moving formation. Hence the blanket defence transitioning into attack and retreating again. We see this more clearly at the top table, Dublin v Mayo over the past two seasons for example.
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Post by Jigz84 on Dec 7, 2017 15:28:20 GMT
We're starting to rival Dublin now for the size of the backroom team
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Post by Joxer on Dec 7, 2017 16:34:29 GMT
Not even close Ji :)gz. Not even close
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 7, 2017 17:03:53 GMT
It is becoming borderline ridiculous at this stage.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 7, 2017 19:00:37 GMT
We're starting to rival Dublin now for the size of the backroom team No we’re not- we have about 6, they have about 18
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 7, 2017 19:43:19 GMT
We need to get a boxer in and a footballer that played for another county!
Seriously lads when you think about it - a basketball coach in to coach Kerry footballers....................
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 7, 2017 20:09:09 GMT
A lot of dublins defensive tactics are from the basketball court....and Jayo would be influential in that. Kerry have been very poor tactically and i see this as a good thing. I think the likes of KD could offer a lot too.
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Post by Kingdomson on Dec 7, 2017 20:12:17 GMT
We need to get a boxer in and a footballer that played for another county! Seriously lads when you think about it - a basketball coach in to coach Kerry footballers.................... Ask again next September or if we fall earlier. My sideline wish for 2018! I really don't want to see selector Hassett galavanting onto the pitch or acting the maggot on the sideline - embarrassing stuff. Whatever about new faces coming in, a few old faces need to roll out or be kept well in the background in 2018.
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Post by ballynamona on Dec 7, 2017 21:48:06 GMT
It is becoming borderline ridiculous at this stage. Whatever works. I maintain that Kerry's core value is winning. Not at all costs mind, but Kerry have adapted to new trends down through the years and stayed at or near the top. I agree that soccer-type formations can really jar in Gaelic Football owing to the size of the pitch and the amount of hand-passing.
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Post by homerj on Dec 7, 2017 22:42:28 GMT
that article says we returned to training last night. any idea if any new faces are in there?
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Post by onlykerry on Dec 8, 2017 9:28:44 GMT
We need to get a boxer in and a footballer that played for another county! Seriously lads when you think about it - a basketball coach in to coach Kerry footballers.................... We * and moan when we do the same ol thing and come up short - I applaud the thinking that has management searching for solutions to our deficiencies in pursuit of excellence. Ball handling and tacking are critical aspect of the game and learning from experts in these skills from other sports must be a worthwhile experiment. As another poster says lets judge the efforts when we complete championship 2018 - I would be a lot more worried if we did nothing.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Dec 8, 2017 12:05:53 GMT
What sort of things do you hope to see from Kerry's senior football team in 2018?
I'll get the ball rolling and say
1. A free taker (non goalkeeper) with the ability to kick the ball over the bar from a 45. We have arguably the greatest dead ball specialist as a coach so use him.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 8, 2017 12:22:57 GMT
We need to get a boxer in and a footballer that played for another county! Seriously lads when you think about it - a basketball coach in to coach Kerry footballers.................... We * and moan when we do the same ol thing and come up short - I applaud the thinking that has management searching for solutions to our deficiencies in pursuit of excellence. Ball handling and tacking are critical aspect of the game and learning from experts in these skills from other sports must be a worthwhile experiment. As another poster says lets judge the efforts when we complete championship 2018 - I would be a lot more worried if we did nothing. Just playing the devils advocate. Crokes are the most savvy team in Kerry with regards to the modern defensive game. Pat O'Shea was a fabulous basketball player. I've said here before he should be brought on board with Kerry. This is a sign of where the game is gone now. I can only imagine what Dr. Eamonn, Micko, Joe Keohane, Paddy Bawn etc would make of having a basketball coach inside? However, the teams with the best attacks matted to the new blanket game that can transform easily between defence attack and defence are the most successful over the past few years. Mainly Dublin v Tyrone this year and Mayo. Quality attack is still king. I suppose Kerry's brief will be to back up Kerry attacking play matted to a defensive structure. Kerry being Kerry will want to see Dublin's aspirations for the four in row neutered next summer.
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Post by jackiel on Dec 8, 2017 12:32:29 GMT
We're starting to rival Dublin now for the size of the backroom team No we’re not- we have about 6, they have about 18 There was a photo of the Dublin back room team after the All Ireland about 2 years ago,there were 23 in it with one or two missing, we've a long way to go to catch up on them.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Dec 8, 2017 13:12:31 GMT
No problem at all with bringing in a basketball coach. Might improve our defence hopefully. Hopefully Wheldon can put some strategy in place to avoid our full back line being hung out to dry.
Basketball mostly operates on the zone defence and hopefully the implementation of this for Kerry can stop us being so porous to runners.
Can also help on the offensive side of things with creating space, shot selection and general awareness when on the ball.
Ditto a free taker. We could also do with the crokes Keeper getting a good bit of league time.
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Post by buck02 on Dec 8, 2017 13:12:54 GMT
We need to get a boxer in and a footballer that played for another county! Seriously lads when you think about it - a basketball coach in to coach Kerry footballers.................... We * and moan when we do the same ol thing and come up short - I applaud the thinking that has management searching for solutions to our deficiencies in pursuit of excellence. Ball handling and tacking are critical aspect of the game and learning from experts in these skills from other sports must be a worthwhile experiment. As another poster says lets judge the efforts when we complete championship 2018 - I would be a lot more worried if we did nothing. I agree but are we just copying what Dublin have done I wonder? The winter after Donegal beat Dublin, they brought in that basketball coach. Its not just defensive work he has taught them - look at how good Dublin are at getting out of the corners in say a 2v2 or even a 2v3 situation. Also their ability to unlock a defence by making space and having somebody running through onto a handpass that is just popped over the cover is something else they seem to have learned from this fella. And Jayo. And thats before you talk about their defence. On tackling - I thought we had improved in this regard last Spring but it was poor again in the summer. I wonder did the focus switch off this aspect of the game in training during the championship? We have Donie Buckley who has turned Mayo into the best tackling team out there making the trip from Ennis to Castlebar instead of Killarney because of an unwillingness, IMO, on Kerrys side to do whatever it takes to get him back in. Its something that rankles with me, albeit I have only heard bits and pieces about the falling-out. Its good to see the new S&C structures being put in place and I can only see benefits in these new appointments. The perception I have of a couple of the management team last year wouldnt be great and these new voices should freshen things up and maybe shake a certain level of group-think out of the management team. Its just a pity that Tommy Griffin didnt make the step up to try get our backs up to speed.
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Post by onlykerry on Dec 8, 2017 14:23:13 GMT
We * and moan when we do the same ol thing and come up short - I applaud the thinking that has management searching for solutions to our deficiencies in pursuit of excellence. Ball handling and tacking are critical aspect of the game and learning from experts in these skills from other sports must be a worthwhile experiment. As another poster says lets judge the efforts when we complete championship 2018 - I would be a lot more worried if we did nothing. Just playing the devils advocate. Crokes are the most savvy team in Kerry with regards to the modern defensive game. Pat O'Shea was a fabulous basketball player. I've said here before he should be brought on board with Kerry. This is a sign of where the game is gone now. I can only imagine what Dr. Eamonn, Micko, Joe Keohane, Paddy Bawn etc would make of having a basketball coach inside? However, the teams with the best attacks matted to the new blanket game that can transform easily between defence attack and defence are the most successful over the past few years. Mainly Dublin v Tyrone this year and Mayo. Quality attack is still king. I suppose Kerry's brief will be to back up Kerry attacking play matted to a defensive structure. Kerry being Kerry will want to see Dublin's aspirations for the four in row neutered next summer. Not necessarily - at least two of the best juvenile coaches of yesteryear (John Dowling and James Hobbert) both played/coached basketball in the off season. I think cross code skills development has always been a feature to some degree accross all sports. Nowadays with the proliferation of media outlets competing for "news" much of what happened quietly now makes headlines.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 8, 2017 14:35:39 GMT
Just playing the devils advocate. Crokes are the most savvy team in Kerry with regards to the modern defensive game. Pat O'Shea was a fabulous basketball player. I've said here before he should be brought on board with Kerry. This is a sign of where the game is gone now. I can only imagine what Dr. Eamonn, Micko, Joe Keohane, Paddy Bawn etc would make of having a basketball coach inside? However, the teams with the best attacks matted to the new blanket game that can transform easily between defence attack and defence are the most successful over the past few years. Mainly Dublin v Tyrone this year and Mayo. Quality attack is still king. I suppose Kerry's brief will be to back up Kerry attacking play matted to a defensive structure. Kerry being Kerry will want to see Dublin's aspirations for the four in row neutered next summer. Not necessarily - at least two of the best juvenile coaches of yesteryear (John Dowling and James Hobbert) both played/coached basketball in the off season. I think cross code skills development has always been a feature to some degree accross all sports. Nowadays with the proliferation of media outlets competing for "news" much of what happened quietly now makes headlines. With the closed door policy now inside I'm surprised we are getting so much info about additions to the setup. Anyone know what the policy with Currans will be? Will it be a members club only or can the riffraff drop in for a look? I suppose dye in the wool clubies wouldn't like to see mercenary's like season ticket holders inside with their 60% attendance slip wafting out of their shirt pockets!
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