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Post by colinsworth1 on Aug 29, 2017 22:25:26 GMT
Just saw cillian o connors other act of sabotage on Balls.ie
In the Connaught final where he runs totally unsighted into the back of Thomas Flynn then flung himself to the ground all in one well
Rehearsed move As bad a faker as one is ever likely to see
You know what happened next Flynn gets a black card
Referee fell for it hook line and sinker I wonder how many more of these stunts has he pulled this year and who is coaching them that stuff??
Mr o Connor I sincerely hope mayo win the final
But your medal will have been seriously devalued
Come on now don't let your proud county down
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 29, 2017 22:47:35 GMT
Just saw cillian o connors other act of sabotage on Balls.ie In the Connaught final where he runs totally unsighted into the back of Thomas Flynn then flung himself to the ground all in one well Rehearsed move As bad a faker as one is ever likely to see You know what happened next Flynn gets a black card Referee fell for it hook line and sinker I wonder how many more of these stunts has he pulled this year and who is coaching them that stuff?? Mr o Connor I sincerely hope mayo win the final But your medal will have been seriously devalued Come on now don't let your proud county down I'm sure he is sick of the "deserves" talk. His new motto could and should be "by hook or by crook". |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 30, 2017 6:59:28 GMT
Just saw cillian o connors other act of sabotage on Balls.ie In the Connaught final where he runs totally unsighted into the back of Thomas Flynn then flung himself to the ground all in one well Rehearsed move As bad a faker as one is ever likely to see You know what happened next Flynn gets a black card Referee fell for it hook line and sinker I wonder how many more of these stunts has he pulled this year and who is coaching them that stuff?? Mr o Connor I sincerely hope mayo win the final But your medal will have been seriously devalued Come on now don't let your proud county down I saw the same thing on Balls.ie and came to the conclusion that Cillian got out of the Darren train just in time. Both Darren and Ciallian totally blameless in trying to avoid each other. |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 30, 2017 7:29:23 GMT
Just saw cillian o connors other act of sabotage on Balls.ie In the Connaught final where he runs totally unsighted into the back of Thomas Flynn then flung himself to the ground all in one well Rehearsed move As bad a faker as one is ever likely to see You know what happened next Flynn gets a black card Referee fell for it hook line and sinker I wonder how many more of these stunts has he pulled this year and who is coaching them that stuff?? Mr o Connor I sincerely hope mayo win the final But your medal will have been seriously devalued Come on now don't let your proud county down I saw the same thing on Balls.ie and came to the conclusion that Cillian got out of the Darren train just in time. Both Darren and Ciallian totally blameless in trying to avoid each other. You obviously havent been watching Cillian O Connor for the last few years. Did you attend either semi final? |
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Post by clarinman on Aug 30, 2017 9:34:07 GMT
Just saw cillian o connors other act of sabotage on Balls.ie In the Connaught final where he runs totally unsighted into the back of Thomas Flynn then flung himself to the ground all in one well Rehearsed move As bad a faker as one is ever likely to see You know what happened next Flynn gets a black card Referee fell for it hook line and sinker I wonder how many more of these stunts has he pulled this year and who is coaching them that stuff?? Mr o Connor I sincerely hope mayo win the final But your medal will have been seriously devalued Come on now don't let your proud county down I saw the same thing on Balls.ie and came to the conclusion that Cillian got out of the Darren train just in time. Both Darren and Ciallian totally blameless in trying to avoid each other. Incident happened right in front of me on the Hogan stand side. Darren was chasing his man at full speed. Cillian passed the ball to Darren's man and then took 1 step into Darren's path. Looked very deliberate to me. Should have been a Kerry free and a black card for Cillian. Don't know what the linesman was thinking. |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 30, 2017 9:40:42 GMT
I saw the same thing on Balls.ie and came to the conclusion that Cillian got out of the Darren train just in time. Both Darren and Ciallian totally blameless in trying to avoid each other. Incident happened right in front of me on the Hogan stand side. Darren was chasing his man at full speed. Cillian passed the ball to Darren's man and then took 1 step into Darren's path. Looked very deliberate to me. Should have been a Kerry free and a black card for Cillian. Don't know what the linesman was thinking. I can only go on what I saw on balls.ie. I was on the Hill End. I respect the fact that you had a better view. |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 30, 2017 9:41:51 GMT
I saw the same thing on Balls.ie and came to the conclusion that Cillian got out of the Darren train just in time. Both Darren and Ciallian totally blameless in trying to avoid each other. You obviously havent been watching Cillian O Connor for the last few years. Did you attend either semi final? Quite a good post by your standards. Only slightly irrelevant. |
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 30, 2017 9:43:15 GMT
Did Gough consult anyone for the Donaghy sending off? Just wondering as he didn't see it himself. He didn't see the Crowley incident either last year but let that one go.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 30, 2017 9:44:48 GMT
You obviously havent been watching Cillian O Connor for the last few years. Did you attend either semi final? Quite a good post by your standards. Only slightly irrelevant. Due to the inaccuracy of your analysis when discussing the Cillian O Connor body check, I'll take any negative comment on posts as a reaffirmation that they are actually both relevant and, at times, poignant. |
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 30, 2017 9:47:36 GMT
Hardly a coincidence the amount of refereeing decisions that go against Kerry in Croke Park? Is there a basis at work here? Subconscious or otherwise.....................
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 30, 2017 9:54:37 GMT
Did Gough consult anyone for the Donaghy sending off? Just wondering as he didn't see it himself. He didn't see the Crowley incident either last year but let that one go. Surprised you ask the question - Lord Gough is infallible and would have no need to consult with anyone on any decision he makes! |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 30, 2017 10:01:53 GMT
Did Gough consult anyone for the Donaghy sending off? Just wondering as he didn't see it himself. He didn't see the Crowley incident either last year but let that one go. Surprised you ask the question - Lord Gough is infallible and would have no need to consult with anyone on any decision he makes! Gough was standing about five yards away. I am sure he heard the punch and also I assume he is mic'd up to the linesmen. Complaining about that decision is pitiful. |
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 30, 2017 10:08:15 GMT
Did Gough consult anyone for the Donaghy sending off? Just wondering as he didn't see it himself. He didn't see the Crowley incident either last year but let that one go. Surprised you ask the question - Lord Gough is infallible and would have no need to consult with anyone on any decision he makes! Just watched Darran's black carding, a shocking adjudication of the black card rule. |
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 30, 2017 10:09:08 GMT
Surprised you ask the question - Lord Gough is infallible and would have no need to consult with anyone on any decision he makes! Gough was standing about five yards away. I am sure he heard the punch and also I assume he is mic'd up to the linesmen. Complaining about that decision is pitiful. Who the f.uck is complaining? just asking a question........................ |
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Post by jackiel on Aug 30, 2017 10:20:58 GMT
While I have no issue with Kieran's card what really annoys me is Darran's black card. Gough was called back by that eejit Anthony Nolan from Wicklow who was doing linesman. Nolan should not be let within a mile of any match at that level again.
We probably would have ended up with the same final result but at least Darran could have had a shot at keeping us in the game.
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Post by boherbee on Aug 30, 2017 10:54:28 GMT
While I have no issue with Kieran's card what really annoys me is Darran's black card. Gough was called back by that eejit Anthony Nolan from Wicklow who was doing linesman. Nolan should not be let within a mile of any match at that level again. We probably would have ended up with the same final result but at least Darran could have had a shot at keeping us in the game. Darran's black card was clearly wrong , at the same time time I think that the constant complaining about it is belittling to the player that replaced him. |
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Post by dring on Aug 30, 2017 11:07:39 GMT
Looks like the Darran black was linesman's call, Very poor decision. Wouldn't blame the ref for high number of cards-it was a very messy match. Black card has failed to cut out the cynical fouling by the team ahead coming up to the end of a match(in this case Mayo). A penalty kick is the only answer to this.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 30, 2017 11:13:30 GMT
Looks like the Darran black was linesman's call, Very poor decision. Wouldn't blame the ref for high number of cards-it was a very messy match. Black card has failed to cut out the cynical fouling by the team ahead coming up to the end of a match(in this case Mayo). A penalty kick is the only answer to this. There was no need for all the stop-start and cards. Colm Parkinson absolutely reddened Gough on his podcast, saying he destroys any match he is involved with and shouldn't be let near big games. Just in case anyone is looking in: I am of the opinion that a ref who let the play develop would have seen Mayo win by more. |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 30, 2017 11:51:32 GMT
Game over, no way back....a guy stands on your metatarsais....in all the circumstances.....Donaghy did the right thing.
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Post by tpo on Aug 30, 2017 12:53:51 GMT
Will Star be suspended for 1/2/3 matches ? Will they be Championship matches? On another note will AOS be called to account by CCC for standing on Star toes ?
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Post by seaniebo on Aug 30, 2017 13:35:18 GMT
Anyone got a link to Darran's black card?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 15:26:36 GMT
Think Donaghy will just miss some league games which I say he wouldn't plan to be playing in anyway
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Post by piggott on Aug 30, 2017 15:31:23 GMT
Are Straight reds not competition related. For instance if a player gets one in North Kerry Championship he misses next game in that competition. If that's the case Star would miss first round of Munster Championship.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 30, 2017 15:47:52 GMT
Are Straight reds not competition related. For instance if a player gets one in North Kerry Championship he misses next game in that competition. If that's the case Star would miss first round of Munster Championship. Philly McMahon's suspension for eye gouging in the 2015 final was served in the 2016 league and his suspension for abusive language towards the referee in this year's league final was served in this year's championship. |
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Post by buck02 on Aug 30, 2017 15:47:55 GMT
Are Straight reds not competition related. For instance if a player gets one in North Kerry Championship he misses next game in that competition. If that's the case Star would miss first round of Munster Championship. Yes this sounds right, didnt Philly McMahon get a retrospective one match ban for the, ahem, incident with Donaghy in the 2015 final? And Cillian O Connor missed the first round of the championship in 2015 after getting a straight red in the replay in 2014. On that note, I had a good laugh when Coldrick gave a penalty for a pull down by Philly inside the box last Sunday. I wonder would he have given it if the game was in the melting pot? |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 30, 2017 16:29:42 GMT
Pity Coldrick missed a more blatant one at the end of the 2015 final.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 30, 2017 16:32:31 GMT
Will Star be suspended for 1/2/3 matches ? Will they be Championship matches? On another note will AOS be called to account by CCC for standing on Star toes ? What's worse....standing on someone foot or flicking a helmet that's not strapped on properly. I am glad James Owens had the ballls to let Austin Gleeson play in the final. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 16:44:27 GMT
My thoughts exactly
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Post by southward on Aug 30, 2017 18:09:20 GMT
Are Straight reds not competition related. For instance if a player gets one in North Kerry Championship he misses next game in that competition. If that's the case Star would miss first round of Munster Championship. Yes this sounds right, didnt Philly McMahon get a retrospective one match ban for the, ahem, incident with Donaghy in the 2015 final? And Cillian O Connor missed the first round of the championship in 2015 after getting a straight red in the replay in 2014. On that note, I had a good laugh when Coldrick gave a penalty for a pull down by Philly inside the box last Sunday. I wonder would he have given it if the game was in the melting pot?I think you know the answer to that. Coldrick was only amusing himself with that decision, the game being well over at that stage. Contact was minimal as far as I could see. Geaney had a much stronger case for a penalty on Saturday. |
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Post by colinsworth1 on Aug 30, 2017 18:33:23 GMT
I'm seeing here on the forum where many of us are still pouring over the. What if s of the game on Saturday and. More posters are all ready picking the team and management for next year
I'm in the former category I haven't moved on yet and won't for a while. It's easy to say we were beaten by a better team but
Many posters here have pointed out so many incidents and decisions that could easy have put us back in the game and even in the win column. So we're not that far away.
Another point that occurred to me is the apparent lack of leadership on the team late in both games. Think back to
BOD and Paul O Connell and how leaders can calm things and direct thing s. Like in the first game the rushed free kick ,the low percentage shot by Sheehan ,the rush for goals in the second game when points would have put mayo on the back foot and got us back in the game ,our lack of a relationship with the referee like rugby captains enjoy. You saw where AOS ran a good bit out of his way to shake hands with the Ref before the game. Call it Plamas but it paid off for him. All these are duties of leaders and Captains and I think we need to discuss again as most managers I'm sure would strongly agree Select captains not to reward the county champions but to fortify and improve the kerry senior football team ! Which needs all the help it can get now.
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