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Post by keane on Jun 13, 2017 9:02:01 GMT
Donnchadh will miss the Munster final presumably.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 13, 2017 9:07:14 GMT
Does Tomas want to be manager of Cork. I got that impression listening to him on TSG I wouldn't be at all surprised. Tomas is well aware of the untapped and unfulfilled potential in Cork.
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Post by peanuts on Jun 13, 2017 9:13:12 GMT
Donnchadh will miss the Munster final presumably. Why, is there a suspension for accumulation of sending offs?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 13, 2017 9:33:02 GMT
Donnchadh will miss the Munster final presumably. Two yellows he got, no? Is there a suspension for that?
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Post by veteran on Jun 13, 2017 9:34:33 GMT
Why is this thread not titled Kerry V Cork. Kerry always first.
It is wise that some people here are urging caution re Munster final. Remember 2014 when we embarrassed Cork in Cork and went on to win the All-Ireland . They came to Killarney the following year as no hopers. Have the super confident brigade here forgotten what happened the first day.? I was impressed by Cork's second half display against Tipp, perticularly the gumption shown by some of their less experienced players. There was an admirable defiance shown by rescuing that game with a wonderful goal. They will come down riled up by all the disparaging comments , not least by our own Tomas, who as Mickmack suggested, seems to be auditioning for the Cork job. There are times when I wonder if Tomas is a mouthpiece for some Cork football supporters . He does have close connections with Nemo Rangers after all!
In any case don't put all your life savings on a Kerry victory on the 02/07/17.
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Post by keane on Jun 13, 2017 10:09:06 GMT
Why, is there a suspension for accumulation of sending offs? Two yellows he got, no? Is there a suspension for that? Sorry lads, two yellows used to be a one match suspension but it looks like they changed that a few years ago?
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 13, 2017 10:49:39 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 13, 2017 14:45:56 GMT
Title of the thread changed now as Kerry are at home
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 13, 2017 16:33:51 GMT
Why, is there a suspension for accumulation of sending offs? Two yellows he got, no? Is there a suspension for that? Sorry lads, two yellows used to be a one match suspension but it looks like they changed that a few years ago? I don't ever remember a red from two yellows leading to suspension. Are you sure you're not thinking of the premiership soccerball super Sunday?
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Post by keane on Jun 13, 2017 20:17:54 GMT
Sorry lads, two yellows used to be a one match suspension but it looks like they changed that a few years ago? I don't ever remember a red from two yellows leading to suspension. Are you sure you're not thinking of the premiership soccerball super Sunday? Maybe
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Post by seaniebo on Jun 13, 2017 22:20:27 GMT
I too am of the cautious brigade when it comes to Cork in championship . I remember listening to post match commentary circa 2012 when Ambrose O Donovan was bemoaning the fact that Kerry were scuppered by Cork saying we had a chance to put Cork away for years with a win.
It's only 3 years ago when we were absolutely smashed in Tralee in the League by Cork and travelled to Páirc Uí Chaoimh more in hope than anything come championship that year. We all know what happened that day of course. Sport is a funny mistress. I will remain cautious.
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 13, 2017 22:28:00 GMT
I don't ever remember a red from two yellows leading to suspension. Are you sure you're not thinking of the premiership soccerball super Sunday? Maybe I just remember the 2002 hullabaloo about Darragh Ó Sé getting a straight red for the Gaeltacht which should have led to an intercounty ban but didn't, while if it had been 2 yellows he'd have been fine.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 14, 2017 6:24:20 GMT
I understand lads being cautious and nobody wants to get carried away. I'd have to ask on what basis should we be cautious? 2015 was different, we where champions and we didn't look right all Summer. Cork have been abysmal in both league and championship, I really do believe Kerry should be winning this comfortably. Personally I'm looking forward to JOD lighting up the Munster Final.
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Post by Aodhan on Jun 14, 2017 10:22:49 GMT
If the Kerry team and mentors go into the Munster Final with the same attitude of some here there will be only one outcome. Have we not learned anything from the U21 debacle?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 14, 2017 10:57:02 GMT
Both have chinks in their armour based on previous game, Tipp went home at HT while Kerry didn't take Clare game by the scruff and which you'd expect if there is such competition for places.
And yeah, Tomás did say Cork may need an outside manager and I'd say he has Paidí burstin his arse laughin, "and ye thought auld Dwyer and myself let ye down by jumping ship". All the while Darragh in the IT is pontificating of the joys of a quiet life away from it all. Come on <arc - don't let the side down!
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Post by glengael on Jun 14, 2017 11:09:29 GMT
Is the red added to previous cards over the season or is that just with black cards?
I'd be wary of Cork. They have nothing to lose and a whole truckful of critics and hubris to overturn.
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Post by KY50 on Jun 14, 2017 12:01:52 GMT
Cork V Kerry generally very little between them - see 2015 etc, there is a lot of HS being said on this forum stating all we need to do is turn up [Like against Galway in the U21 semifinal - Kerry were not tuned in] As Glengael outlined Cork have nothing to lose have some serious talent which will trouble most counties.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 14, 2017 12:05:50 GMT
If the Kerry team and mentors go into the Munster Final with the same attitude of some here there will be only one outcome. Have we not learned anything from the U21 debacle? I'm fairly sure the Kerry team will approach the task in the same professional manner they have previously. I'm just wondering why Kerry fans should be cautious ? Cork are in the worst form in living memory and Kerry are coming of a division one league win. Where is the form line for Cork to make us cautious of them ? Kerry had a harder task against Clare in my opinion.
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Post by KY50 on Jun 14, 2017 14:48:22 GMT
Going to play Cork with the wrong attitude wont be good and will lead to an ambush. Looking at their team I disagree with some of the pundits in terms of leadership, - Paul Kerrigan, Donnacha O Connor, Colm O Neill etc all have leadership ability.
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 14, 2017 17:16:50 GMT
Going to play Cork with the wrong attitude wont be good and will lead to an ambush. Looking at their team I disagree with some of the pundits in terms of leadership, - Paul Kerrigan, Donnacha O Connor, Colm O Neill etc all have leadership ability. Yes for the first two but Colm O'Neill is a shadow of his former self. Has scored 0-2 so far in the c'ship both from frees.
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Post by fitz on Jun 14, 2017 17:52:56 GMT
I too am of the cautious brigade when it comes to Cork in championship . I remember listening to post match commentary circa 2012 when Ambrose O Donovan was bemoaning the fact that Kerry were scuppered by Cork saying we had a chance to put Cork away for years with a win. It's only 3 years ago when we were absolutely smashed in Tralee in the League by Cork and travelled to Páirc Uí Chaoimh more in hope than anything come championship that year. We all know what happened that day of course. Sport is a funny mistress. I will remain cautious. Kerry have a far superior set of personnel compared to 2012. Cork have regressed since then.
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Post by fitz on Jun 14, 2017 17:54:40 GMT
Going to play Cork with the wrong attitude wont be good and will lead to an ambush. Looking at their team I disagree with some of the pundits in terms of leadership, - Paul Kerrigan, Donnacha O Connor, Colm O Neill etc all have leadership ability. Yes for the first two but Colm O'Neill is a shadow of his former self. Has scored 0-2 so far in the c'ship both from frees. They're years on the go and have plenty of hardship mileage. Of course we need to respect and plan ruthlessly but we should win comfortably.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 14, 2017 18:50:10 GMT
The very recent debacle in ennis in the u21 v Galway should serve to dispel any feelings of hubris
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Post by kerryman72 on Jun 14, 2017 19:55:05 GMT
I must say I was very disappointed with the decisions made on the line the last day took off Kevin McCarthy when he was the only player getting us out of trouble brining in Johnathan Lyne don't no what he sees in him only 2 backs on the subs list nd should have took too long to take off Barry john the line cost us 2015 all Ireland we need to make better decisions
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 14, 2017 21:02:58 GMT
I understand lads being cautious and nobody wants to get carried away. I'd have to ask on what basis should we be cautious? 2015 was different, we where champions and we didn't look right all Summer. Cork have been abysmal in both league and championship, I really do believe Kerry should be winning this comfortably. Personally I'm looking forward to JOD lighting up the Munster Final. Personally, I think best way to support our Kerry players is to take a cautious and humble approach. As Kerry supporters we should all have the welfare of our players at heart as they try and prepare as professionally as they can for what they will rightly expect to be a testing fixture. Trust me, the last thing any Kerry player will want to hear is their own fans telling them this game is in the bag. More generally, why hype up the opposition with disrespect and pile unnecessary pressure on our players?
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Post by kerryman72 on Jun 14, 2017 21:05:40 GMT
Any 1 have link for tipp cork full game
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 15, 2017 6:22:20 GMT
I understand lads being cautious and nobody wants to get carried away. I'd have to ask on what basis should we be cautious? 2015 was different, we where champions and we didn't look right all Summer. Cork have been abysmal in both league and championship, I really do believe Kerry should be winning this comfortably. Personally I'm looking forward to JOD lighting up the Munster Final. Personally, I think best way to support our Kerry players is to take a cautious and humble approach. As Kerry supporters we should all have the welfare of our players at heart as they try and prepare as professionally as they can for what they will rightly expect to be a testing fixture. Trust me, the last thing any Kerry player will want to hear is their own fans telling them this game is in the bag. More generally, why hype up the opposition with disrespect and pile unnecessary pressure on our players? My original point was addressing a post that said Kerry would have to be at their very best to beat this Cork side. I was questioning the logic and the evidence to back this up? It's not about humility or caution it's about calling it as you see it. I don't buy into cute / play it down / talk up opposition etc. This Cork side are not playing well at all and yes they might turn it on in 3 weeks but for 2 years there has been no form to support that.
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 15, 2017 8:40:23 GMT
At the top level in any sport mental attitude is critical - going into any game thinking it will be easy is the first step in failure. Changing mental attitude during a game is close to impossible. What people are cautioning about is that Cork are a side who typically play their best football against Kerry, therefore Kerry need to be wary and take the game seriously. Kerry playing to their potential will beat the current Cork team, but anything less than proper attitude and preparation leaves the door open for Cork to charge through if they pull it together on the day - and that would be a sickening feeling for any Kerry person.
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Post by KY50 on Jun 15, 2017 9:05:32 GMT
Agree totally with Kingdomson and onlykerry,points well made
Kingdomson said- Trust me, the last thing any Kerry player will want to hear is their own fans telling them this game is in the bag.- agree - leads to failure, plenty of examples to illustrate this
Onlykerry said - Going into any game thinking it will be easy is the first step in failure. Changing mental attitude during a game is close to impossible. agree 100%, again plenty of examples
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Post by glengael on Jun 15, 2017 9:40:07 GMT
Agree totally with Kingdomson and onlykerry,points well made Kingdomson said- Trust me, the last thing any Kerry player will want to hear is their own fans telling them this game is in the bag.- agree - leads to failure, plenty of examples to illustrate this Onlykerry said - Going into any game thinking it will be easy is the first step in failure. Changing mental attitude during a game is close to impossible. agree 100%, again plenty of examples Also logic and sport do not go hand in hand automatically.
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