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Post by Mickmack on Jun 8, 2017 19:59:19 GMT
Sean Kelly has always displayed sound judgement. The intermediate and junior club championships, the christy ring and nicky rackard cups as well as opening up croke park to other sports can all be claimed by him as significant achievements.
He makes a valid point that if the gaa want to be professional as regards drug testing let central council fund the cost. A lot of county boards could do with that financial assistance. Use some of the sky money....
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 8, 2017 22:17:43 GMT
I'd have sympathy for Brendan o Sullivan and I'm sure a nice guy , but the question has to be asked why he went on a solo run with this and didn't check with Team doctor. Anyone I've talked to in sporting circles around Dublin , just smile and say "off course he didnt" when it's put to them that he didn't hope to get some sort of advantage from taking them. Most likely because he was a new panel member, in from last years junior team, with no real education on this aspect of the game.
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Post by glengael on Jun 9, 2017 12:22:48 GMT
I wonder has any real medical research been done on the health effects of taking these legitmate, non-contaminated, legal supplements, vitamins, caffeines etc that seem to be par for the course for GAA players now?
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Post by wayupnorth on Jun 9, 2017 13:32:50 GMT
I wonder has any real medical research been done on the health effects of taking these legitmate, non-contaminated, legal supplements, vitamins, caffeines etc that seem to be par for the course for GAA players now? There will be plenty of real research on specific substances and how they can confer an advantage in competitive sport. That is the basis of banning them. These substances can be found in legal products too and in these they may or may not confer an advantage. That is why finding any amount of a banned substance is going to cause problems and it's no excuse to say you got them in "legal" products. The health effects (short and long term) are important also but the performance enhancing effect is more relevant to anti doping bodies. There will be research on this aspect also but not as much as the other. Even if pop there are no health consequences from such substances the fact that they can give an unfair advantage should be enough to ban them.
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Post by thebluepanther on Jun 9, 2017 22:58:16 GMT
I'd have sympathy for Brendan o Sullivan and I'm sure a nice guy , but the question has to be asked why he went on a solo run with this and didn't check with Team doctor. Anyone I've talked to in sporting circles around Dublin , just smile and say "off course he didnt" when it's put to them that he didn't hope to get some sort of advantage from taking them. Most likely because he was a new panel member, in from last years junior team, with no real education on this aspect of the game. I guess it's easy on the outside to sit and judge , hope the guy gets back playing for Kerry and is allowed the chance to put it behind him.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 10, 2017 10:06:15 GMT
Most likely because he was a new panel member, in from last years junior team, with no real education on this aspect of the game. I guess it's easy on the outside to sit and judge , hope the guy gets back playing for Kerry and is allowed the chance to put it behind him. That is the problem with this, it is too easy to judge.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 13, 2017 21:46:07 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 15, 2017 19:49:55 GMT
Players deserve to be paid for their efforts' - Larkin
Michael Verney June 15 2017 2:30 AM
After going through a 12-year Kilkenny hurling career without having to undergo a drugs test, former Cats star Eoin Larkin brands the current measures as a "joke" and is adamant that GAA players shouldn't be subjected to such measures unless they are being financially rewarded for their on-field efforts.
Much furore surrounded the recent leaking of Kerry footballer Brendan O'Sullivan's positive test for the banned stimulant methylhexaneamine (MHA), with many calling for more frequent testing and stricter implementation of procedures, but Larkin disagrees.
The eight-time All-Ireland winner doesn't feel drugs are an issue in the GAA, and the 2008 Hurler of the Year believes that amateur athletes shouldn't be subjected to the same demands as professionals, without some form of pay for play.
"I don't think it's a problem - I think it's an absolute joke. In the 12 years I was in there I never got drug tested, never. So you're talking about a lad (tester) coming out once a year, testing two or three lads out of 35," Larkin told the Irish Independent.
"Then he tests two or three lads out of 35 after a game. If you're going to do it, do it properly, do it across the board. When I was in there, if you had a sniffle you'd have to ring the doctor and ask could you take a Lemsip.
"'No you can't, don't take that.' That's hardly going to boost your performance now is it? Or a Solpadeine. It's ridiculous, a joke really. I don't think an amateur player should have to do it - and if you're going to make them do it, pay them and let it go semi-pro."
Larkin, who recently left the Army to pursue a career as a technician with biopharmaceutical giant Pfizer, has no regrets about putting his professional career on hold for hurling but feels that modern players may be less likely to make that sacrifice. In order for the GAA to continue thriving, his solution is to make the organisation semi-professional and reward their greatest natural resource financially, although he can't envisage it happening any time in the near future due to greed.
"They should be paid because of the amount of time inter-county players give up on their career, they have to give up so much," the 32-year-old said.
"If a lad is in a job he's saying 'I can't go for that promotion because there'll be more time wanted to the job'."
"That's your opportunity gone, so give him a few pound. I don't see it happening, though - the GAA are too mean, they're whinging about giving a bit of expenses. Everyone in Croke Park on All-Ireland final day gets paid, bar the players. "From the referee to the lads selling hot dogs, lads selling drinks, lads behind bars. And if the players aren't there, what do they have in Croke Park? Nothing. The GAA will come back and say they're getting grants, but the grant wouldn't cover what you have to buy for your nutrition for the year and that's a fact.
"Do you know what's going to happen? If players can't get a job or a promotion, they're going to think 'well I can get a promotion here if I step away'. "You could make them semi-professional and let them do their bit of work as well as playing or give them some form of tax break.
"I have no regrets career wise but playing inter-county certainly stopped me doing a lot of things in the Army. It was always 'If I go and do this I'll be playing in the Championship there' because everything is planned around it.
"You're trying to book tickets for things six months in advance and then you end up training, and you're a boll***s for not being able to go.
"The GAA are more than happy for all the talk about players being paid to have died down completely in recent years."
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 27, 2017 9:36:24 GMT
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