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Post by ballynamona on May 27, 2017 20:15:01 GMT
Cork struggled but at this stage I would not read too much into it.
Clare should be warm favourites v Limerick.
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Post by kerrygold on May 27, 2017 22:42:26 GMT
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Post by KY50 on May 30, 2017 10:32:39 GMT
Cork in the middle of very heavy training, gambled against Waterford and got away with it, they should beat Tipp who are no bad side, then set up for a final in the new Pairc where it is their key goal to win [first game in new stadium]Kerry will have to be at their very best have a chance - remember drawn game in 2015
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Post by buck02 on May 30, 2017 11:17:15 GMT
Cork in the middle of very heavy training, gambled against Waterford and got away with it, they should beat Tipp who are no bad side, then set up for a final in the new Pairc where it is their key goal to win [first game in new stadium] Kerry will have to be at their very best have a chance - remember drawn game in 2015 Yerra.
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Post by givehimaball on May 30, 2017 22:07:28 GMT
Cork in the middle of very heavy training, gambled against Waterford and got away with it, they should beat Tipp who are no bad side, then set up for a final in the new Pairc where it is their key goal to win [first game in new stadium]Kerry will have to be at their very best have a chance - remember drawn game in 2015 Yeah we remember the drawn game in 2015 - also known as the worst championship performance of Fitzmaurice's reign, but don't tell the Cork lads that - they have convinced themselves off the back of that drawn game that they really aren't that far off, despite the fact that the only teams they have beaten in the championship since then are Limerick and Longford (who gave them an almighty scare) last year and Waterford (who scared the beejus out of them) this year. Out of the kindness of our hearts we'll refrain from looking too closely at their performances in the league - but just look at the headlines-relegated in 2016 and their 2 wins this year was against the two relegated teams.
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Post by delorean on May 31, 2017 9:14:42 GMT
they have convinced themselves off the back of that drawn game that they really aren't that far off Ah yeah, sure there's only a kick of a ball between ourselves and the top teams, that's what we're all thinking.
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Post by givehimaball on May 31, 2017 13:47:39 GMT
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Post by givehimaball on May 31, 2017 13:49:05 GMT
Dont Foul's review of the Derry v Tyrone game. Key stat for me was the fact that When you combine that with the fact that Tyrone's conversion rate overall was 52%, it's hard not to see their attack getting shut down by any sort of decent defence. dontfoul.wordpress.com/2017/05/30/derry-v-tyrone-2017-ulster/
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Post by delorean on May 31, 2017 14:52:17 GMT
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 2, 2017 10:02:29 GMT
Why are the provincial championships strung out in the manner they are - it is killing the calendar with half interesting games with generally sparse attendance.
Leinster started 21/5 with 3 games, none the next w/e, 3 more this w/e and then 1 a week for the next three w/e's of June before taking a three week break to their final. Ulster and Connaught string their games out in an even worse fashion with one game per weekend.
Munster is more efficient but with more gaps.
We talk about the calendar, over training and unavailability for clubs etc - the provincial championships should and could be run off far more efficiently. This type of scheduling is silly and adds fuel to the arguement for scrapping the provincials (which I would not support). HQ should get a grip on this and give the provinces a one month window to complete their competitions.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 2, 2017 11:21:05 GMT
Live coverage is the main reason for the strung out nature of the fixtures.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 2, 2017 11:51:33 GMT
Surely with both SKY and RTE on the go now the fixtures could be tightened up?
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 2, 2017 20:04:11 GMT
Live coverage is the main reason for the strung out nature of the fixtures. I would say the provincial councils are responsible for a lot of it, especially the Ulster council. The quarter-finals of the Ulster final this year are spread out over 4 weekends 21st May Donegal v Antrim 28th May Derry v Tyrone 4th June Down v Armagh 11th June Cavan v Monaghan Leinster by comparison had their preliminary round (3 games) over one weekend and have their quarter-finals over 2 weekends. Munster and Connacht both know they can take their time because of how long Ulster take. It's no surprised that the length of the championship is a shambles when you have five different bodies being in charge of scheduling matches.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 3, 2017 8:44:22 GMT
Live coverage is the main reason for the strung out nature of the fixtures. I would say the provincial councils are responsible for a lot of it, especially the Ulster council. The quarter-finals of the Ulster final this year are spread out over 4 weekends 21st May Donegal v Antrim 28th May Derry v Tyrone 4th June Down v Armagh 11th June Cavan v Monaghan Leinster by comparison had their preliminary round (3 games) over one weekend and have their quarter-finals over 2 weekends. Munster and Connacht both know they can take their time because of how long Ulster take. It's no surprised that the length of the championship is a shambles when you have five different bodies being in charge of scheduling matches. It is actually farcical at this stage not to mention the costs involved in maintaining county teams during the year. A month for provincial championships with the extra month going to the clubs makes a lot more sense.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 3, 2017 8:46:12 GMT
Dont Foul's review of the Derry v Tyrone game. Key stat for me was the fact that When you combine that with the fact that Tyrone's conversion rate overall was 52%, it's hard not to see their attack getting shut down by any sort of decent defence. dontfoul.wordpress.com/2017/05/30/derry-v-tyrone-2017-ulster/Hard to see Tyrone cutting it in Croke Park when Cavanagh is still their talisman in attack.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 19:46:46 GMT
Routine win for Dublin.
Main talking point will be does Connolly get a suspension for pushing the linesman.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 3, 2017 20:54:24 GMT
I wouldnt hold your breath.
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Post by southward on Jun 3, 2017 23:24:51 GMT
Looked innocuous enough in fairness. Anyway, Dermo seems to have some sort of diplomatic immunity when it comes to disciplinary matters so he should be fine.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 4, 2017 7:59:40 GMT
This will be interesting to see what happens, a 12 week ban would put him out until the All-Ireland final.
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Post by mandad on Jun 4, 2017 9:17:45 GMT
Even though it may seem innocuous enough, you just cannot touch an official. Regardless of whether the linesman reports him or not, if he is cited then he is will be in big trouble. The problem for him is that there are no mitigating circumstances in the application of the rule – minimum 12-week suspension. However, he has already managed to get 2 suspensions overturned in the last few years, so I wouldn’t hold my breath.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 4, 2017 9:29:08 GMT
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 4, 2017 9:33:55 GMT
He pushed the linesman - no doubt. The rule leaves little doubt or wiggle room either. The only issue is will the GAA TAKE ACTION OR NOT.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 9:49:38 GMT
This will be interesting to see what happens, a 12 week ban would put him out until the All-Ireland final. Saw somewhere that he would be out till the eve of the semi final assuming Dublin go through front door. This seems black & white to me. He puts hands on the linesman and then bawls him out of it.
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Post by glengael on Jun 4, 2017 10:23:23 GMT
Routine win for Dublin. Main talking point will be does Connolly get a suspension for pushing the linesman. Was no action taken about the incident during the game? That alone is extraordinary and would make one question how serious the GAA is about discipline. Who was the referee?
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jun 4, 2017 10:42:37 GMT
Is it the same linesman as got him the black on the league final as well? I think he's from down. Should be 12 weeks no its or buts. Especially when the tipp keeper comerford got 12 weeks last week.
Can't see how he can get out of it and the GAA not being screwed over just handing out the same ban for the same offence last week.
He really is a liability for Dublin at this stage. At some stage he has to be cut loose. You cant rely on him.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 4, 2017 11:28:55 GMT
It should be clear cut but this is Connolly after-all !!! He is loose cannon at this stage.
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Post by southward on Jun 4, 2017 12:05:30 GMT
When the time-ban was removed for red cards, it should have been removed for other offences too. Big difference between 12 weeks in January and missing the whole summer.
There's nothing Connolly did on this occasion that should cause any player to miss the championship. Maybe one game if you really want to lay down a marker. Lets face it, far nastier stuff than this goes on without the same level of sanction. He barely touched him ffs.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 4, 2017 12:11:03 GMT
I hear through the grapevine that connollys defense is that, with the blonde hair and all on the linesman, connolly mistook him for lee keegan and his instinct was to push him away.
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 4, 2017 12:37:50 GMT
Unfortunately the issue is consistency and not the extent of the incident itself - do the rules apply for all players and counties to the same extent or not. The issue of whether the rules are fair and appropriate is a separate and valid issue in itself. Underlying this is the respect or lack of respect towards match officials.
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Post by ddtinexile on Jun 4, 2017 13:00:14 GMT
Someone pulled he's tail and he hissed........again.
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