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Post by Mickmack on Jun 19, 2017 14:46:08 GMT
Delorean....are Cork hurlers playing away with their clubs at the moment or are they confined to the county team.
The amount of hurling teams off the pace is noteworthy such as Limerick, Dublin, Tipp, Waterford. Clare would probably have lost Tipp or Watetford and definately to Cork.
Waterford players hadnt played with club or county for ten weeks.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 19, 2017 15:10:54 GMT
There is far more cynical play in hurling than in football right now. There were jerseys & shorts pulled, players hauled down, fellas clipped in the ear with hurleys, high tackles, face guards pulled in Thurles yesterday.
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Post by delorean on Jun 19, 2017 15:17:09 GMT
Delorean....are Cork hurlers playing away with their clubs at the moment or are they confined to the county team. The played a round of the County Championship alright in between the Tipp and Waterford games and are due out again this coming weekend.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 19, 2017 16:26:31 GMT
There is far more cynical play in hurling than in football right now. There were jerseys & shorts pulled, players hauled down, fellas clipped in the ear with hurleys, high tackles, face guards pulled in Thurles yesterday. Was the ref correct in giving cork a free in yesterday after the umpire had told him about an incident a minute or two earlier. The play had moved on after the incident and the ball had gone dead. First time i ever saw it happen in a gaa game
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 19, 2017 16:28:03 GMT
Delorean....are Cork hurlers playing away with their clubs at the moment or are they confined to the county team. The played a round of the County Championship alright in between the Tipp and Waterford games and are due out again this coming weekend. Waterford were well off the pace. Cork looked really sharp. Nashs puckout puts cluxton in the hapenny place
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Post by delorean on Jun 19, 2017 16:35:30 GMT
Waterford were well off the pace. Cork looked really sharp. Nashs puckout puts cluxton in the hapenny place I think the movement of the players out the field has made life a lot easier for Nash. His accuracy was never really in question, but he was hung out to dry over the last year or two with the lack of options. He was either forced to play a risky pass to a player or to go long, and invariably our static forwards were incapable of winning their own ball, with the exception of Harnedy.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 19, 2017 22:24:08 GMT
Qualifier draw
Pot 1 is made up of the beaten Leinster semi-finalists, Kilkenny and Offaly, as well as the quarter-final losers in the province, Dublin and Westmeath.
Pot 2 features the beaten Munster semi-finalists, Waterford and Limerick, along with quarter-final losers Tipperary, and the winners of next Sunday’s preliminary round fixture between Laois and Carlow, fixed for O’Moore Park in Portlaoise.
A draw for the four pairings of pot 1 v pot 2 teams will be made, with the avoidance of a repeat pairing. As things stand, however, and only if they Laois progress, there is just one potential repeat pairing across the groups, and that’s a potential Westmeath-Laois tie.
The match venues will be determined on a home and away basis but it’s understood that if Tipperary and Kilkenny are pitted together, for example, that may be decided by coin toss.
Pot 1 – Kilkenny/Offaly/Dublin/Westmeath Pot 2 – Waterford/Tipperary/Limerick/Laois or Carlow.
The four winners of the round 1 fixtures will progress to round 2 of the All-Ireland qualifiers, where two quarter-finalists will be determined, to join the beaten Leinster and Munster finalists.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 20, 2017 8:38:13 GMT
There is far more cynical play in hurling than in football right now. There were jerseys & shorts pulled, players hauled down, fellas clipped in the ear with hurleys, high tackles, face guards pulled in Thurles yesterday. Was the ref correct in giving cork a free in yesterday after the umpire had told him about an incident a minute or two earlier. The play had moved on after the incident and the ball had gone dead. First time i ever saw it happen in a gaa game I've never seen it happen before either and I can't see how it was a correct decision. Barry Kelly wouldn't be considered the best I think.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 23, 2017 9:43:51 GMT
Jackie Tyrrell: There is one game in my career I will never forget Next week’s draw revives memories of an unforgettable occasion in Nowlan Park
Jackie Tyrrell
It’s fair to say the qualifier draw on Monday morning will be the most anticipated one since 2013. So many of the pre-summer favourites are in there and we’re nearly guaranteed to see a big clash.
Those teams don’t want to be there but it’s up to them now to embrace it and go full-bore for it. When it happened to us in 2013, it resulted in one of the most memorable games I have ever been a part of.
We weren’t actually drawn straight out against Tipperary that time. We had drawn with Dublin the day before the draw was made and so all our focus was on beating them in the replay and leaving Tipp to be their problem. But once we lost the replay in Portlaoise, it was only when I was sitting in the dressing room that it hit me. Tipp next Saturday in Nowlan Park. Jesus.
We had no frame of reference for this. Other than replays, we weren’t used to seven-day turnarounds for games. Usually you would have three-to-five weeks to get ready, time to analyse the opposition, get injuries rehabbed, test each other in training and prepare for the game.
But in the qualifiers you are going in blind to a certain extent. It’s sprung on you. You thought your season was headed in one direction and now it’s gone in the other. New opposition, no time to prepare. Just do it. In that respect, it helped that it was Tipperary. We knew each other so well at that stage. We had played each other in three All-Ireland finals in a row from 2009 to 2011 and then in the All-Ireland semi-final in 2012. Throw in a few epic league finals and there was nothing we didn’t know about each other.
Familiarity had definitely bred contempt by that stage. There was no problem finding motivation. Maybe we would have found it hard to rise ourselves after losing the replay if we were facing some other team but it was easy when it was Tipp. They were the old enemy for us by that stage. You couldn’t lose to them. Especially not in Nowlan Park.
The build-up that week in Kilkenny was different to any game I’ve ever been involved in. It had all the nerves of the week of an All-Ireland final but none of the joy. For an All-Ireland, people are full of chat all week about travel arrangements and tickets and ‘are you staying up?’ and everything else. A final is something to be savoured. But nobody was savouring this. The dominant mood in Kilkenny was fear. There was no joy in it. People were worried. We could be out of the championship next week. And worse, it could be Tipperary who put us out. It was like a cloud that followed us around for the week. You were anxious the whole time.
The team that had won those All-Irelands was obviously getting older and time was clearly catching up with us. You got the sense that people were generally okay with it all coming to an end, as it eventually had to. But they couldn’t live with it ending with a defeat to Tipp in Nowlan Park.
A corner None of us could. We were backed into a corner and we had to come out and face it. We didn’t train seriously all week because there was no time. We did a couple of recovery sessions, had some meetings and basically prepared our minds for war.
We had a heap of injuries. My quad was killing me. Henry had a screw in his foot. Paul Murphy and TJ Reid were doubtful all week. But that was irrelevant, really. I know in my head, I was definitely playing, come hell or high water. I presumed the rest of them were the same. All bets were off.
Everything was different, inside the squad and outside it. I had a small group of family and close friends who would always text me to wish me luck before a game. Those texts were always very straight-up – one line wishing you all the best and leaving it at that. On that Saturday though, every text that came through in the early afternoon had an extra line.
“Best of luck, Jackie. Some crowd around Kilkenny already.” “Good luck tonight. Some atmosphere building around town.”
“All the best. People are queuing and there’s still four hours to the game.”
I was sitting at home in my house counting down the hours. I was trying to stay calm and relaxed but these texts weren’t making it easy. I was already nervous because of the quad and because it was Tipp but this was just making it worse. It was only a small departure from the norm but even that can have an effect when you’re as wound up as I was.
I decided that the best way to settle myself was to head into town. We were meeting in the Newpark Hotel three hours before the game and, from where I live, I could have gone 10 minutes around the ring road or five minutes through town. I knew I probably shouldn’t but the devil inside me wanted to see what all these text messages were about.
I wanted to keep the windows up and the head down and I pulled the visor across in case anybody would spot me. But it was so hot that day that I had to let the windows down to get some air in. It meant I could hear all the slagging and the roaring and the messing as I drove through the city. The crowds were massive, spilling out of pubs onto the streets. Tipp fans, Kilkenny fans, all going at it. The place was just mobbed.
Packed house We got a bus from the Newpark to Nowlan Park. Anyone who knows Kilkenny will have some laugh at that – you’re probably talking about a drive of three minutes. But you couldn’t risk lads getting swamped by the crowds so we had a Garda escort and everything.
The heat was oppressive. We arrived and dropped our bags in the dressing room and went out onto the pitch for a few pucks. Not a warm-up, just a bit of a puck around to settle in. After a few minutes, our dietician Noreen Roche came out and hooshed us all back into the dressing-room. “It’s too hot, lads. Ye’re losing fluids. Get in, get in.” She was right. My t-shirt was stuck to me. Unfortunately, we always wore black.
The place was packed to the rafters – this was over an hour before the game. I’ve warmed up in that stadium for matches since I was a teenager. I’ve never warmed up to a packed house before. There was no game on before ours and still everybody was sitting there ready to go. You could feel the hum and the buzz growing as the game came closer. The only time they went quiet was when the teams were being announced. All week there was a rumour that Henry might be ready to play some part. You could see the whole stadium was hanging on every word to see would his name be called. In the end, I’d say hardly anybody heard his name. All the announcer had to say was, “There is one addition to the Kilkenny subs...” The place erupted.
The game started at a frantic pace. I had sweat constantly dripping into my eyes. I was marking Bubbles O’Dwyer. My quad was okay but I felt it tighten every time I tried to turn sharply. I forgot it very quickly each time because the action just kept going and going. The first half passed in a matter of minutes. Every score was cheered as if it won an All-Ireland.
You forget yourself in games like that. I went over to take a sideline cut at one stage and as it happened, it was exactly at the moment Henry was coming into the game. The place went nuts for him. He came on for Mattie Ruth – we slagged Mattie afterwards that he got some send-off leaving the pitch.
Henry was standing right beside me, about to go on. And for some reason, I gave him a slap on the back as he was crossing the sideline. I have no idea what made me do that. I had never done that in my life. What was I thinking? This wasn’t some young lad going out for his first game. This was Henry Shefflin. Did he really need a comforting slap on the back from me? What was I expecting? Him to turn around and go, ‘Ah Jesus, thanks Jackie – I was waiting on that all day, it means a lot’? That’s what I mean – you forget yourself.
We got ahead and we always had a small cushion. The crucial moment came when Eoin Kelly got a goal chance in the second half and JJ Delaney just threw himself at it. Somehow he got a bit of his hand in the way and the ball deflected out for a 65. Eoin actually missed the 65 as well.
Amazing game A game of inches. Only for JJ, I could be sitting here writing about a day filled with regret and hurt. Instead, all I think of now is an amazing game and occasion that I can look back on with huge fondness. The nerves of the crowd filtered onto the pitch. I was out on my feet with 15 minutes to go. the heat was cruel. But we defended our goal with our lives and cleared every ball that came into us. You couldn’t feel more alive than that.
At the final whistle, we went bananas. We reacted like we had just won an All-Ireland. But this was, in an odd way, something more than that. It was a unique occasion, a game that would live forever just by itself. It was two teams facing off in a battle in a desert heat, testing themselves to the last drop and finding out what they had when it came right down to it. My quad was like a rock after it and I had lost half a stone in fluids but I didn’t care. I knew I had been part of a magical experience.
Afterwards, I did something I never did after any other game. I went down into Kilkenny city to meet my family and soak it all up. We were playing Waterford the following week so I didn’t have a pint or anything. I just wanted to live that couple of hours, to get a feel for an atmosphere I knew even then could never be repeated.
The walk down to Langton’s for the grub after the match was like a homecoming. Everywhere was rammed and people were coming out of pubs to applaud us down the street. After the food, I went on to Harkins, our local, to meet my mam and dad. They were all still buzzing from it. They were giving out that because they’d all worn shorts with the heat, their legs were stuck to the plastic seats. The things you remember.
After a couple of hours, I went home and went to bed. Call it adrenaline or whatever but the game was still pulsing through me well into the early hours. I was still sweating buckets a good four hours after the game finished. I lay there staring at the ceiling, replaying the whole experience in my head.
I’d say it was close to three o’clock in the morning before I finally drifted off to sleep.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 23, 2017 12:19:07 GMT
There is far more cynical play in hurling than in football right now. There were jerseys & shorts pulled, players hauled down, fellas clipped in the ear with hurleys, high tackles, face guards pulled in Thurles yesterday. The CCCC has suspended Stephen Bennett for pulling Cahalane's faceguard.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 26, 2017 8:22:41 GMT
A nothing draw this morning for next weekend's qualifiers:
Dublin v Laois Kilkenny v Limerick Offaly v Waterford Tipperary v Westmeath
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Post by glengael on Jun 26, 2017 11:08:24 GMT
Tipp will be pleased I'd say to have avoided other Munster teams at this stage.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 3, 2017 11:15:25 GMT
Tipp were bad v Westmeath but get the easier draw again in Dublin. KK v Waterford will be a big one and Waterford have a great opportunity here.
Wexford brought colour, great heart and a sweeper system. Galway simply hurled diagonally and rendered the sweeper irrelevent.
Two games to go for Galway. KK are in transition. Tipp dont look up for it. Cork unlikely to match Galways strength and conditining. Looks like Galways to lose
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 3, 2017 13:02:36 GMT
The Kilkenny v Waterford derby game will be a belter. It would be great to see two teams in the final such as Waterford v Galway, Wexford look a little bit off the required standard just yet.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 3, 2017 16:24:39 GMT
Double header in Thurles. I don't see why Tipperary are getting a home game here.
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Post by glengael on Jul 4, 2017 9:59:45 GMT
I expect it's more about trying to get the maximum crowd for the double header, it's convenient for KK & Waterford and Semple Stadium has floodlights so they can time them for later in the afternoon.
If they had fixed Dub v Tipp for say Portlaoise or Tullamore and KK and Waterford for Thurles the same evening, you can imagine the commentary.............
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Post by fitz on Jul 4, 2017 14:59:47 GMT
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Post by southward on Jul 4, 2017 18:12:03 GMT
This is truly hilarious. If any other county came out with this, they might get some sympathy. But Dublin.... Jesus, it's like a Waterford Whispers spoof. Between this and Gavin v Spillane, it looks like the Dubs PR department has been infiltrated by enemy agents.
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Post by fitz on Jul 4, 2017 19:09:59 GMT
This is truly hilarious. If any other county came out with this, they might get some sympathy. But Dublin.... Jesus, it's like a Waterford Whispers spoof. Between this and Gavin v Spillane, it looks like the Dubs PR department has been infiltrated by enemy agents. The Russians aren't content to stop with Trump, they're for feeding on bigger fish, the Dublin County Board is indeed the zenith 😃
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 8, 2017 12:52:18 GMT
KK and Waterford fans will roar Dublin on. Tipp are not a united bunch it seems. It could be very tight.
Waterford will probably play a sweeper again and hand KK the initiative in the process.
Clare were poor v Limerick with Tony Kelly off form. A huge improvement needed to beat Cork.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 9, 2017 9:33:47 GMT
Great comeback by Kilkenny in normal time but Cody should step down now. Hard to see Waterford winning the All-Ireland.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 9, 2017 21:53:00 GMT
Only grit is left now in KK from their great team and grit forced Waterford to extra time. Waterford will fancy their chances against Wexford or Clare. Tipp look to be putting their problems behind then and on last nights form should beat Wexford or Clare. Nash must have had the guts of 40 puckouts today and Clare pretty much allowed Cork get possession from all of them. Surely this is a defeatist approach and deserves to fail. Hurling is an instinctive game that is being overthought in my view. The two quarterfinals will be in Pairc Ui Frank. Should be a great occasion. Michael Duignan nails it here for me. "The GAA have enough money" www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/emotional-michael-duignan-delivers-verdict-gaas-deal-sky-129735
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Post by glengael on Jul 10, 2017 8:25:16 GMT
It's Waterford v Wexford and Tipp v Clare.
2 interesting local derbies to say the least of it!
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 11, 2017 18:37:02 GMT
It's Waterford v Wexford and Tipp v Clare. 2 interesting local derbies to say the least of it! not a double header....... All Ireland SHC Quarter-Finals: Clare vs Tipperary, Saturday July 22nd, 3 p.m. – Páirc Uí Chaoimh. Wexford vs Waterford, Sunday July 23rd, 4 p.m. – Páirc Uí Chaoimh.
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Post by glengael on Jul 13, 2017 11:46:01 GMT
I don't think they could accomodate a double header with those 4 counties unless a whole pile of people left after the 1st match. 3pm on a Saturday isn't great timewise for trying to get to Pairc Ui Chaoimh.
Big win for Limerick over Clare in the u21's last night. Clare had a quite a few seniors but were outclassed. Interesting to see how Cork shape up in Waterford tonight.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 13, 2017 20:20:18 GMT
Limerick were far too good for Clare last night in the u21.
Tonights other semi final between Cork and Waterford was a brilliant contest with Cork winning it by a point thanks to a penalty with the last puck of the game by Declan Dalton. Dalton was MOTM scoring from line balls, frees and was the main man.
Awful tough on Watetford.
Young Fitsgibbon the Cork lad got a red card near the end.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 13, 2017 21:13:57 GMT
I was talking to a lad from Wexford town today about Lee Chin. Lee's mother is a proud Wexford town woman who married a man from Malasia who had set up a restaurant/take away in the town called CHIN CAN COOK. www.yelp.ie/biz/chin-can-cook-wexford He is a brilliant hurler and a natural leader. His sister plays gaelic football for Wexford.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 13, 2017 22:30:56 GMT
Waterford 1-19 Cork 2-17
Declan Dalton struck a match-winning penalty in the fifth minute of additional time to keep the Cork hurling wave rolling, thus ending Waterford’s reign as Munster and All-Ireland Under-21 champions at Walsh Park.
In front of a crowd of 4,127, John Meyler’s side edged out the Deisemen in a pulsating encounter, which, on balance, the visitors edged in terms of general play.
A gripping conclusion, which included a straight red card for Cork midfielder Darragh Fitzgibbon saw the clinical Dalton punish the indiscretion of Waterford’s Darragh Lyons, who pulled the jersey of the advancing Cork substitute Jack O’Connor.
At the break, and playing with a significant wind advantage, the visitors led by 0-10 to 0-8.
Waterford opened the scoring after just 18 seconds through centre-forward Cormac Curran, with the Rebels drawing level less than 50 seconds later thanks to a Declan Dalton free.
Dalton latched onto Darragh Fitzgibbon’s sideline to send Cork ahead in the fifth minute, before Patrick Curran’s free restored parity two minutes later.
The impressive Dalton landed the first of two converted sidelines after eight minutes, only for Colm Roche to reply immediately from the hosts’ next attack. Dalton sent over another free in the 10th minute before Cork corner-forward Michael O’Halloran increased their lead.
Shane Bennett, who roamed deep to gain possession on several occasions, pointed well for Waterford in the 12th minute, with Cork midfielder Paul Leopold next to point after 16.
The energetic Sean O’Donoghue, somewhat fortunate to escape with a yellow card late in the first half following a heavy challenge on Shane Bennett, assisted Dalton who converted Cork’s seventh.
But Waterford remained well in the contest thanks to a fine Colm Roche point in the 20th minute. Patrick Curran converted frees in the 23rd and 25th minutes to bring the sides level, before Dalton converted another superb sideline after 26.
Darragh Fitzgibbon landed a fine point from halfway before Roche struck his third from play as half-time approached. Dalton’s injury-time free, moments after O’Donoghue’s carding, completed the opening half’s scoring.
Waterford had inched their way back into the contest having trailed by four points after 37 minutes following Robbie O'Flynn’s well-constructed goal for Cork, created by substitute Tom O’Mahony.
Roche’s heroics from midfield hauled Waterford back into contention, and Andrew Casey sent Shane Bennett through to bat home a 51st minute goal to send the hosts a point clear.
The end to end battle sustained itself all the way through this semi-final’s dramatic conclusion, as Curran and Dalton continued to pepper the board.
But at the end, to the agony of the Deisemen, Cork remain standing and advance to a Munster Final against Limerick at the Gaelic Grounds on Wednesday, July 26.
Waterford: B Nolan; D Prendergast, C Gleeson, D Lyons; J Henley, C Prunty, C Lyons; A Molumby, C Roche (0-05); J Prendergast (0-01), C Curran (0-02), S Ryan; Patrick Curran (0-07f, 0-06 65), S Bennett (1-01), P Hogan.
Subs used: E O’Halloran for Molumby and D Lynch for C Lyons (both 42), A Casey for C Curran (49), JP Lucey for Ryan (58).
Cork: P Collins; S O’Donoghue, E Murphy, D Griffin; B Hennessy, D Browne, M Coleman; P Leopold (0-01), D Fitzgibbon (0-03); C O’Leary, D Dalton (1-12; 0-08f, 0-02Sl), A Myers; R O’Flynn (1-0), S Kingston, M O’Halloran (0-01).
Subs used: T O’Mahony for Myers (30), E Healy for O’Donoghue (32), J O’Connor for Kingston (50), D Lowney for O’Leary (55).
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 13, 2017 23:05:47 GMT
Lee Chin can also play football and soccer at a very high level.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 14, 2017 7:28:15 GMT
He is a great footballer indeed. I didn't know he played soccer.
It would be great if Galway or Wexford or Waterford or Clare could win the 2017 All Ireland before Cork take over for the next five years. A clean sweep in Munster is on the cards for Cork. Not that I have anything against Cork hurling. They have always been a credit but in the interests of propagating the game it would be nice to see it go beyond the big 3 this year.
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