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Post by county on May 9, 2017 0:09:36 GMT
Shannon Rangers just don't have the players to compete. All clubs in the division are struggling at the bottom of division 4/5 bar Ballydonoghue who aren't much better. They're struggling in 3 and lost to Churchill in the Junior who are fairly weak themselves. However saying that they should definitely put up a better showing than they did. I saw their manager mentioned in the Kerryman that there was a 3 year plan in place or something. They didn't even meet once before the game with St. Brendan's so God only knows what his 3 year plan is. Disappointing to see Jason Foley and Brian O'Seanachain didn't even line out the last day. Maybe they had exams or something. I guess it just shows the lack of organisation when the manager (who is a Ballydonoghue man himself) couldn't even get them to play. dont have the players to compete! they were in the semi finals a season or two ago and that was before the likes of Jason Foley, Brian OSeanachain, Jack Goulding, Cormac Linnane came along They have the players but the players aren't making themselves available due to the management. SR are guilty of putting the wrong management in place.
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Post by glengael on May 9, 2017 9:45:20 GMT
Whats wrong with any club team that wishes to play on their own if they so wish ?. Fairly difficult to manage a fixture list if that was the case. Who within the Club would decide ? The Committee, the manager, the members? When would clubs have to decide if they were going to go it alone, could they change their mind if they were subsequently badly affected by serious injuries, emigration, player transfers etc? Would it be a year to year decision or would they have to commit for a certain period of time even if they got hammered every year? Fortunes vary even for urban clubs. In 1983 Dr. Crokes and Legion played together in the Co C'ship and won. A decade after that Crokes were All Ireland Club champions. I think there needed to be some attention paid to poorly performing divisions, just as the playoff system for baldy performing clubs was brought in. There are a few oddities in the District system. Currow are with St.Kierans for Co.C'ship yet play in the East Kerry O'Donoghue Cup competition also.
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Post by ruralgaa on May 9, 2017 10:08:23 GMT
dont have the players to compete! they were in the semi finals a season or two ago and that was before the likes of Jason Foley, Brian OSeanachain, Jack Goulding, Cormac Linnane came along They have the players but the players aren't making themselves available due to the management. SR are guilty of putting the wrong management in place. This is the key factor in any Divisional team making an impact in the competition, having a manager to which all the players/clubs can buy into. I know nothing of Shannon Rangers setup, but I know from my past experience in divisional teams that if the manager appointed by the divisional board is not up to scratch, or can't get the players onside then you end up with poor displays and poor teams which don't reflect the quality of football or player in that division.
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Post by onlykerry on May 9, 2017 10:22:13 GMT
Divisional sides and district boards are different animals.
I think it is at u16 level they run a championship where the sides are based on district boards - great competition.
Another great underage competition is run at u15 I think - a nine? a side that goes all the way to munster. Gives smaller clubs a chance of competing with some of the bigger ones. A nine a side senior blitz would be an interesting competition.
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Post by hugh20 on May 9, 2017 12:08:55 GMT
Hugh Kieran Mulvihill and Eddie Mangan don't even play anymore. Some of those players are not up to county championship standard. That's fair enough. I did state that some of the players may not be playing. I'm from East Kerry and while I go to quite a lot of games, the only North Kerry games I get to is the North Kerry final most years and the odd year I would go to a semi final or two. Sadly, Ballylongford are not strong enough to compete at this level these days and these are players with ability who I was not aware were playing or not. Similarly to the lads with the Kerry hurlers Goulding, Costello, Boyles and so on. Hence, why I mentioned them and hence the validity of my argument for not ridding of the divisional sides. Players need a shop window to impress and test themselves against the best sides and individuals in the county. Many players develop late and showcasing their talent in the main competition within the county may their only hope of representing the Green & gold in the future.
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Post by county on May 9, 2017 20:40:13 GMT
Hugh Kieran Mulvihill and Eddie Mangan don't even play anymore. Some of those players are not up to county championship standard. That's fair enough. I did state that some of the players may not be playing. I'm from East Kerry and while I go to quite a lot of games, the only North Kerry games I get to is the North Kerry final most years and the odd year I would go to a semi final or two. Sadly, Ballylongford are not strong enough to compete at this level these days and these are players with ability who I was not aware were playing or not. Similarly to the lads with the Kerry hurlers Goulding, Costello, Boyles and so on. Hence, why I mentioned them and hence the validity of my argument for not ridding of the divisional sides. Players need a shop window to impress and test themselves against the best sides and individuals in the county. Many players develop late and showcasing their talent in the main competition within the county may their only hope of representing the Green & gold in the future. It's the management of the team that seems to be the problem. When they can't get a panel of 20 to tog out from the 6 clubs in SR what chance have they of not only getting past the perlimary round but winning a county championship. I hope their 3-5 year plan isn't the same as the effort they gave the last day in Austin Stacks Park.
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Post by onlykerry on May 10, 2017 8:23:46 GMT
A feast of football this coming weekend with R1 of the Co Championships - home games adds to local excitement even though double headers means you get to see more matches. Think R1 at home venues is a good idea.
13/05/2017 (Saturday) 18:30 Austin Stacks - vs - St Kieran's Castleisland 18:30 Kenmare District Board - vs - Daingean Uí Chúis 18:30 St Brendan's Board - vs - Kilcummin 14/05/2017 (Sunday) 13:30 Killarney Legion GAA - vs - kenmare senior football team 14:00 East Kerry Team - vs - Rathmore 14:30 Kerins O`Rahilly's - vs - South kerry district Board 14:30 West Kerry Board - vs - Fánaithe na Féile 15:45 Dr Crokes - vs - Mid Kerry Board
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Post by An Bradán on May 12, 2017 8:24:15 GMT
No effort by F R players either preparing for championship from what I've heard. Decent players in every part of Kerry but organisation / preparations sadly lacking in some. Lads it is hard enough for football only divisions to prepare for the county senior championship with players involved with their clubs, colleges, Kerry under 21 and seniors With St Brendans, Feale Rangers and Shannon Rangers they have the added dimension of hurling clubs and the Kerry senior hurlers in the mix It is becoming well nigh impossible for divisions to have a window to train I don't subscribe to the view of an all north Kerry team. Shannon Rangers were in county senior semi in recent years and Feale Rangers won a senior title in 2007. How many divisions have won a title since? Just one I think South Kerry Both Feale and Shannon Rangers should be capable of having competitive teams at senior. It is just a question of organisation, desire, will and most of all finding a slot in the calendar to get the team prepared. Agreed Mossie. Little or no co-ordination between the football and hurling boards not helping either. Add in the Kerry senior hurlers to add a further complication. But there is also a distinct lack of interest by the senior players. Less so by the younger lads. FR in particular seems to be a basket case in relation to its organisation. SR less so but it seems they also have major structural problems. A lot of the problems seem to stem from the recycling of the same old names and faces in charge of teams. Some guys associated with the NK teams have no coaching success in years or ever. St. Kierans are also part of the NK set up in a way with clubs playing in the division. They need to get their act together too. Divisional sides will thrive when the Kerry players in their set ups place value on it and drive things on. Unfortunately some fellas don't seem to be particularly interested in their clubs never mind the divisional teams.
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Post by kerryman90 on May 12, 2017 8:38:09 GMT
Predictions for weekend??
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Post by kerryfanatic619 on May 12, 2017 9:31:44 GMT
Predictions for weekend?? Austin Stacks - vs - St Kieran's - Austin Stacks Kenmare District Board - vs - Dingle - Dingle St Brendan's Board - vs - Kilcummin - St. Brendans Killarney Legion GAA - vs - kenmare senior football team - Legion East Kerry Team - vs - Rathmore - Rathmore Kerins O`Rahilly's - vs - South kerry district - Rahillys Dr Crokes - vs - Mid Kerry Board - Crokes
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Post by homerj on May 12, 2017 10:43:39 GMT
anybody have the shannon rangers team from the last day?
cant see it anywhere
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Post by buck02 on May 12, 2017 12:47:48 GMT
Predictions:
East Kerry v Rathmore - RATHMORE by 5 Austin Stacks v St Kierans - STACKS by 6 West Kerry v Feale Rgs - WEST KERRY by 7 Killarney Legion v Kenmare Shamrocks - KENMARE by 2(although might be difficult to beat the same team, two weekends in a row)
St Brendans v Kilcummin - BRENDANS by 6 Kerins O’Rahillys v South Kerry - SOUTH KERRY by 3(originally went for Rahillys but they seem to be going poor) Kenmare District v Dingle - DINGLE by 10+ Dr Crokes v Mid Kerry - CROKES (but closer than expected, maybe 3 or 4 points in it).
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Post by Mickmack on May 12, 2017 13:44:03 GMT
When does the knockout stage start...
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Post by buck02 on May 12, 2017 14:08:06 GMT
When does the knockout stage start... Next weekend. Losers of this weekends game will be out if they lose next weekend. Rd 2A = Rd 1 winners – 8 teams – open draw (4 v 4) – extra time Rd 2B = Rd 1 losers – 8 teams – open draw (4 v 4) – extra time Rd 2A winners progress to Quarter Finals (4 teams) Rd 2A losers progress to Rd 3 (4 teams) Rd 2B winners progress to Rd 3 (4 teams) Rd 2B losers exit competition (4 teams) Rd 3 = 2A Losers v 2B Winners - 8 teams (4 v 4) - extra time (avoid repeat games) Quarter Finals – Rd 2A Winners v Rd 3 Winners (4 v 4) extra time
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Post by veteran on May 12, 2017 14:39:09 GMT
anybody have the shannon rangers team from the last day? cant see it anywhere Refer to this week's Kerryman.
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Post by homerj on May 13, 2017 13:59:39 GMT
anybody have the shannon rangers team from the last day? cant see it anywhere Refer to this week's Kerryman. Nowhere to buy the keeryman where i live!
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Post by greengold35 on May 13, 2017 14:46:17 GMT
anybody have the shannon rangers team from the last day? cant see it anywhere Team from the Kerryman:Sean Dee ( Beale) Philly Blake ( Beale) Martin Collins ( Asdee) Mike McEllistrim ( Ballylongford) Jack Gogarty ( Ballydonoghue) Shane Enright ( Tarbert) Kieran Kelly ( Asdee) Martin O'Mahony ( Ballydonoghue) Michael Foley ( Ballydonoghue) Darragh Sheehy ( Ballydonoghue) Darragh Keane ( Asdee) Jim Cremin ( Ballydonoghue) Jack Foley ( Ballydonoghue) Cormac Linnane ( Beale) Eoin Tydings ( Asdee) This embarrassing display is an insult to all senior clubs who face the threat of relegation each year; one of Kilcummin or Rahillys will drop to intermediate this year while SR will be in next years senior draw again - this is not good enough and to hear the chairman of SR say afterwards that " At least we fulfilled the fixture and we are happy with that" is an outrage and shows utter contempt for the competition - SR are no different to the vast majority of divisional sides and face the same issues of having players in Kerry squads/emigration/players working away from their clubs - looks like there was absolutely no effort made to be competitive - it seems to be the same each year!
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Post by homerj on May 13, 2017 18:18:49 GMT
In fairness, its a very poor team. Multiple lads on that, maybe even 9 are not good enough and you could name 9 lads missing with much better calibre.
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Post by Mickmack on May 13, 2017 22:32:46 GMT
Extra-time can't separate Austin Stacks and St Kieran's as Dingle and St Brendan's march on
2014 CHAMPIONS AUSTIN Stacks and St Kieran’s Castleisland must do it all again as the sides couldn’t be separated in the first round of the Kerry SFC this evening, even after extra-time.
. St Kieran’s got off to the dream start with an unanswered 1-3, before Greg Horan opened Austin Stacks’ account after 12 minutes. The original leaders pulled away and were well in control for much of the opening period, as the half-time score stood at 1-9 to 0-4.
Stacks needed a big response after the break, and David Mannix stood up to hit four important points — two from play and two free-kicks — in the opening ten minutes.
Mannix inspired his side to get on top, and it was he who leveled matters in the 63rd minute of play to send the fixture to extra-time.
Just two further scores each were tagged on by both sides in the added periods. Mannix again registed two frees for Stacks, while two black cards for St Kieran’s didn’t stop them from forcing a replay.
Meanwhile, Dingle and St Brendan’s Board progressed with wins over Kenmare District Board and Kilcummin respectively.
Kenmare District — last year’s beaten county senior finalists, but this year without the Kenmare club — were first off the mark with a goal through Killian Spillane, but Paul Geaney soon cancelled it out as he hit the net at the other end.
The Geaneys were in flying form throughout the game, with Mikey, Paul and Conor all combining to split the posts excellently on several occasions.
Pat Spillane hit Kenmare District’s second goal of the day before half-time which meant the score stood at 2-1 to 1-5.
Conor Geaney scored Dingle’s second goal, while Paul completed his brace in the second half to ensure a win for his side.
In the third game of the evening, St Brendan’s had a three-point win over Kilcummin. It was tit-for-tat in the opening minutes, but St Brendan’s registered the first goal as they lead by a single point at half-time.
Kevin McCarthy starred for Kilcummin and kept the scoreboard ticking over, before Brendan’s hit the net again and raced into an extensive lead with several unanswered points.
Matt Keane bagged Kilcummin a goal of their own before Daniel Moynihan slotted home another with the last kick of the game but it was too little too late.
Kerry SFC results: Austin Stacks 0-16 St Kieran’s Castleisland 1-13 (AET) Kenmare District Board 2-4 Daingean Uí Chúis 3-16 St Brendan’s Board 2-17 Kilcummin 2-14
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Post by sidelined on May 13, 2017 23:23:27 GMT
kenmare were forced to line out without Adrian spillane, tadhg morley and john mark foley. they started great against the gale, bagged 1 goal but missed 2 more before dingle scored.kenmare lost 2 more players to injury before halftime. dingle upped their performance bigtime in the second half with conor geaney on fire to win easily. dingle have probably the best attack but their defence is very porous, could and probably will cost them later in the championship. Adrian spillane non playing was strange to say the least.
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Post by deckyk on May 14, 2017 8:42:58 GMT
Looking forward to today. Il be off to see south kerry versus the Rahillys. I think south kerry will do well to get a result here in the narries back yard. South kerry are down a few regulars by all accounts.
Tough enough games to predict. What makes it hard is the unpredictability of the divisional side.
East kerry haven't got the ball rolling at all and I fancy Rathmore to beat them.
Dr Crokes to overcome mid kerry. I fancy Crokes to win it out again this year. However if mid kerry (obtaining Milltown and laune rangers) got it together they have the players to win a county championship
West Kerry to beat feale rangers.
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Post by yellowbelly on May 14, 2017 9:38:26 GMT
Extra-time can't separate Austin Stacks and St Kieran's as Dingle and St Brendan's march on 2014 CHAMPIONS AUSTIN Stacks and St Kieran’s Castleisland must do it all again as the sides couldn’t be separated in the first round of the Kerry SFC this evening, even after extra-time. . St Kieran’s got off to the dream start with an unanswered 1-3, before Greg Horan opened Austin Stacks’ account after 12 minutes. The original leaders pulled away and were well in control for much of the opening period, as the half-time score stood at 1-9 to 0-4. Stacks needed a big response after the break, and David Mannix stood up to hit four important points — two from play and two free-kicks — in the opening ten minutes. Mannix inspired his side to get on top, and it was he who leveled matters in the 63rd minute of play to send the fixture to extra-time. Just two further scores each were tagged on by both sides in the added periods. Mannix again registed two frees for Stacks, while two black cards for St Kieran’s didn’t stop them from forcing a replay. I really wouldn't bother posting reports from the42.ie The Stacks v Kierans report is so obviously done by "a reporter" sitting at home following the game on Twitter. No mention of the three other goal chances Kierans had in the first half, the pivotal introduction of Kieran Donaghy, Mannix hitting the post when it was easier to score, the four black cards. Such is modern journalism. Exciting game rather than a good game. Replay will a bit of a headache for the County Board now
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Post by ruralgaa on May 14, 2017 13:43:52 GMT
kenmare were forced to line out without Adrian spillane, tadhg morley and john mark foley. they started great against the gale, bagged 1 goal but missed 2 more before dingle scored.kenmare lost 2 more players to injury before halftime. dingle upped their performance bigtime in the second half with conor geaney on fire to win easily. dingle have probably the best attack but their defence is very porous, could and probably will cost them later in the championship. Adrian spillane non playing was strange to say the least. Did his hamstring in the Templenoe v Glenbeigh/Glencar game in the Intermediate championship. Had to come off in that
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 14, 2017 15:27:24 GMT
Great win for strand road- came back really strong and go to see a few lads outside the big names really standing up
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Post by ballynamona on May 14, 2017 16:35:52 GMT
I definitely don't agree with relegating or getting rid of Divisional teams. I do think there are ways of employing greater sanctions against uncompetitive teams, such as putting them on hiatus for a year or two. Let players from the junior/intermediate clubs in that district be eligible for selection by the next nearest division to their club. If Shannon Rangers can't get their act together then they should join up with Feale Rangers.
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Post by onlykerry on May 14, 2017 16:49:40 GMT
I definitely don't agree with relegating or getting rid of Divisional teams. I do think there are ways of employing greater sanctions against uncompetitive teams, such as putting them on hiatus for a year or two. Let players from the junior/intermediate clubs in that district be eligible for selection by the next nearest division to their club. If Shannon Rangers can't get their act together then they should join up with Feale Rangers. Needs to be balance in the divisional set up and the creation of super divisions is as undesirable as having under performing divisions. Perhaps a limit to the number of teams playing higher league divisions would achieve this. For example give 5 points for a div 1 side, 4 for div 2 etc and no divisional side can have more than 10 points (Div 6 and lower = 0 and no limit)
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Post by greengold35 on May 14, 2017 17:36:48 GMT
Great win for strand road- came back really strong and go to see a few lads outside the big names really standing up Yea, a big win coming off the back of the disappointment of the club championship displays - really took the game to SK in the second half, outscoring them 2-06 to nil in the first 19 minutes - still a very young team with 3 U-21s in the team plus Jack Savage, Tommy Begley & Cian Sayers from the county U-21 winners in 2015 - they have great potential, Dingle next week end will pose different problems!
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Post by tman59 on May 14, 2017 19:41:09 GMT
Good win for Rathmore heard they were up against it and could of easily went to Ek. East Kerry v Mid Kerry be an interesting game.
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Post by onlykerry on May 14, 2017 20:44:13 GMT
Senior Football Championship Round 1 – Replays
Sat May 20 @ 6.30pm – Extra Time
St Kierans v Austin Stacks in Scartaglin
Sun May 21 @ 2.30pm – Extra Time
Kenmare Shamrocks v Killarney Legion in Kenmare
Senior Football Championship - Round 2A
Sat May 20 @ 6.30pm – Extra Time
Dr Crokes v St Brendans in Lewis Rd
Rathmore v Feale Rgs in Rathmore
Sun May 21 @ 2.30pm – Extra Time
Dingle v Kerins O Rahillys in Dingle
Date & Venue TBC
Austin Stacks or St Kierans v Killarney Legion or Kenmare Shamrocks
Senior Football Championship - Round 2B
Sun May 21 @ 2pm – Extra Time
Kilcummin v South Kerry in Lewis Rd
Sun May 21 @ 3.45pm – Extra Time
East Kerry v Mid Kerry in Lewis Rd
Date & Venue TBC
Kenmare District v Killarney Legion or Kenmare Shamrocks
West Kerry v Austin Stacks or St Kierans
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Post by madforfootball on May 14, 2017 22:55:36 GMT
Senior Football Championship Round 1 – Replays Sat May 20 @ 6.30pm – Extra Time St Kierans v Austin Stacks in Scartaglin Sun May 21 @ 2.30pm – Extra Time Kenmare Shamrocks v Killarney Legion in Kenmare Senior Football Championship - Round 2A Sat May 20 @ 6.30pm – Extra Time Dr Crokes v St Brendans in Lewis Rd Rathmore v Feale Rgs in Rathmore Sun May 21 @ 2.30pm – Extra Time Dingle v Kerins O Rahillys in Dingle Date & Venue TBC Austin Stacks or St Kierans v Killarney Legion or Kenmare Shamrocks Senior Football Championship - Round 2B Sun May 21 @ 2pm – Extra Time Kilcummin v South Kerry in Lewis Rd Sun May 21 @ 3.45pm – Extra Time East Kerry v Mid Kerry in Lewis Rd Date & Venue TBC Kenmare District v Killarney Legion or Kenmare Shamrocks West Kerry v Austin Stacks or St Kierans Was at the crokes game today , I reckon they will win it again this year,they just seem to have more gears if needed, seen the rathmore game before hand east kerry could of taken them but didn't. I had great hope for East kerry this year with all clubs involved doing reasonable well, we got a though draw in losses Rd against mid kerry who will have learnt a lot from there defeat to Crokes. Who were South kerry missing today ??
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