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Post by givehimaball on Mar 20, 2017 15:23:35 GMT
Heard that Shane Enright and Killian Young will most likley both be missing for this game with the knocks they picked up on Saturday night. James O won't be back either. Hardly likely any of the Crokes lads will involved - I do wonder if there might be any chance Shane Murphy could be brought in.
Watched the Cavan Mayo game yesterday and I though Cavan looked a side a bit bereft of confidence until they got the goal on the stroke of half-time. Seemed to realise at the break that they were only a point behind Mayo and had the wind in the second half. Mayo looked very clueless tactically especially in the 2nd half, where they played right into Cavan's hands, allowing Cavan loads of time to get their defence back and set and then constantly trying to slowly meander through the Cavan blanket. Then when Cavan hit them on the counter their tracking back was very poor and they left the Cavan players loads of space in which to operate and take their scores. Overall though the big thing for me was that Cavan didn't really have to be all that great to get the win. Mayo's overall performance reminded me a bit of Kerry's performance versus Monaghan with Cavan taking the Monaghan role of the side who looked like their a strategy/plan, whereas Mayo/Kerry didn't have any sort of structured approach as to what they were doing.
Of particular note was how disciplined Cavan were when defending in terms of not giving away frees. Mayo got no score from any deadball in the game, which given the winning margin was only 2 points was vital. I'm not sure what the final figure was in terms of frees conceded but even that was very low and those that were conceded were pretty much all outside the scoring zone. Cillian O'Connor finished the game scoreless - I do remember he missed at least 2 in the 2nd half but one of those was a good distance out and the other was a fair distance out by the sideline and in both cases the smarter play would have been to recycle possession.
Gearóid McKiernan was immense for Cavan notching 1-5 from midfield but I felt he was helped by the fact that neither of Mayo's midfield of Parsons and Kirby seemed to have very much interest in the defensive side of things. McVeety was the other Cavan player who looked lively going forward ; Seanie Johnston was well-marshalled I thought. Overall though I felt this win was built on the very solid basis of the Cavan defence - Mayo didn't even have a sniff of a goal chance. Also the Mayo result means that Cavan have a chance of avoiding relegation (and Kerry aren't safe yet)
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 20, 2017 15:35:50 GMT
A lot will depend on which Kerry team turns up. The one that wanted to beat Dublin or the one that didn't seem too bothered against Monaghan. The one constant with Kerry over the past five years in the league is inconsistency and what often appears to be indifference at times to the league.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 15:54:53 GMT
I would like to see Gavin Crowley Cathal O'Luing or Denis Daly get a game. For me this League was about finding talent and staying up. Ronan Shanahan Jack Barry and Jack Savage have taken their chance well. Adrian Spillane has given a good account of himself. Tadhg Morley has gotten better with games. Mark Griffin also. Jason Foley and Tom Sullivan have shown they're ready. Kerry surprised me against Dublin. They got stuck in they played with great heart and hunger. Thats the only way to play the Dubs. You give them room and time and you will pay the price. Hopefully they can keep that going against Cavan. With Enright and Young out surely Crowley or O'Luing would come into consideration. Murphy has to be moved back now. A very good player but he can't score. I think you have to bring him back wing back now and keep him there. I would like to see Daithi Casey get a look now if not this game then maybe the Tyrone game.
1 Kealy 2 G.Crowley 3 Griffin 4 Shanahan 5 Crowley 6 Morley 7 Murphy 8 Moran 9 Barry 10 Spillane 11 Darren 12 O'Brien 13 McCarthy 14 Geaney 15 Savage .
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Post by whitefire on Mar 20, 2017 23:14:23 GMT
Heard that Shane Enright and Killian Young will most likley both be missing for this game with the knocks they picked up on Saturday night. James O won't be back either. Hardly likely any of the Crokes lads will involved - I do wonder if there might be any chance Shane Murphy could be brought in.Watched the Cavan Mayo game yesterday and I though Cavan looked a side a bit bereft of confidence until they got the goal on the stroke of half-time. Seemed to realise at the break that they were only a point behind Mayo and had the wind in the second half. Mayo looked very clueless tactically especially in the 2nd half, where they played right into Cavan's hands, allowing Cavan loads of time to get their defence back and set and then constantly trying to slowly meander through the Cavan blanket. Then when Cavan hit them on the counter their tracking back was very poor and they left the Cavan players loads of space in which to operate and take their scores. Overall though the big thing for me was that Cavan didn't really have to be all that great to get the win. Mayo's overall performance reminded me a bit of Kerry's performance versus Monaghan with Cavan taking the Monaghan role of the side who looked like their a strategy/plan, whereas Mayo/Kerry didn't have any sort of structured approach as to what they were doing. Of particular note was how disciplined Cavan were when defending in terms of not giving away frees. Mayo got no score from any deadball in the game, which given the winning margin was only 2 points was vital. I'm not sure what the final figure was in terms of frees conceded but even that was very low and those that were conceded were pretty much all outside the scoring zone. Cillian O'Connor finished the game scoreless - I do remember he missed at least 2 in the 2nd half but one of those was a good distance out and the other was a fair distance out by the sideline and in both cases the smarter play would have been to recycle possession. Gearóid McKiernan was immense for Cavan notching 1-5 from midfield but I felt he was helped by the fact that neither of Mayo's midfield of Parsons and Kirby seemed to have very much interest in the defensive side of things. McVeety was the other Cavan player who looked lively going forward ; Seanie Johnston was well-marshalled I thought. Overall though I felt this win was built on the very solid basis of the Cavan defence - Mayo didn't even have a sniff of a goal chance. Also the Mayo result means that Cavan have a chance of avoiding relegation (and Kerry aren't safe yet) Is Shane Murphy training with the Kerry team at the moment?
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 20, 2017 23:28:41 GMT
I have a suggestion to make Brendan O Sullivan should be getting game time for Kerry he always proves his worth for South Kerry all the time he plays, he is as good as David Moran if not better! What is going on that he's not even on panel anymore he is better than most players on the bench , when ever he started or came on last year he proved a point? Does anyone agree with me? The second half v Dublin was tailor made for Brendan
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Post by colinsworth1 on Mar 22, 2017 11:56:44 GMT
I have a suggestion to make Brendan O Sullivan should be getting game time for Kerry he always proves his worth for South Kerry all the time he plays, he is as good as David Moran if not better! What is going on that he's not even on panel anymore he is better than most players on the bench , when ever he started or came on last year he proved a point? Does anyone agree with me? The second half v Dublin was tailor made for Brendan I agree 100%. The one area we should be winning is midfield. Against Dublin Fintan is good but the others are good workhorses but nothing special .in Kerry we always prided ourselves in a good midfield pairing. Let's take a lot a the big man from Valentina sure he may look a bit free the first few games but I think we need the power and the pace and two or three more like him , only then can we talk about beating Dublin
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 22, 2017 12:04:11 GMT
A lot will depend on which Kerry team turns up. The one that wanted to beat Dublin or the one that didn't seem too bothered against Monaghan. The one constant with Kerry over the past five years in the league is inconsistency and what often appears to be indifference at times to the league. Well they better have the right attitude on Sunday because a loss puts Kerry in serious relegation trouble.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 22, 2017 12:21:08 GMT
The second half v Dublin was tailor made for Brendan I agree 100%. The one area we should be winning is midfield. Against Dublin Fintan is good but the others are good workhorses but nothing special .in Kerry we always prided ourselves in a good midfield pairing. Let's take a lot a the big man from Valentina sure he may look a bit free the first few games but I think we need the power and the pace and two or three more like him , only then can we talk about beating Dublin Everyone wants BO'S to make it but he needs to sharpen for inter-county, leaks ball but so too does Moran on his day.
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 22, 2017 14:58:05 GMT
He wasn't listed on the subs for Dublin game. What's the story
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Post by veteran on Mar 22, 2017 22:20:20 GMT
Mikey Sheehy was quoted in the Kerryman today that Brendan O'Sullivan is out with an ongoing injury. I am glad that he has not,been discarded although it is not good news if it is the back that is still bothering him.
Shouldn't this thread be Kerry V Cavan?
I read somewhere today that Philip Jordan claimed Colm Cooper was the greatest he has seen. An extraordinary evaluation when one considers he was a colleague of Peter Canavan.
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Post by wayupnorth on Mar 23, 2017 8:59:01 GMT
Mikey Sheehy was quoted in the Kerryman today that Brendan O'Sullivan is out with an ongoing injury. I am glad that he has not,been discarded although it is not good news if it is the back that is still bothering him. Shouldn't this thread be Kerry V Cavan? I read somewhere today that Philip Jordan claimed Colm Cooper was the greatest he has seen. An extraordinary evaluation when one considers he was a colleague of Peter Canavan. Technically the home team goes first but as this is a Kerry forum... Very pleased to see Philip Jordan's generous comments. I once advised a (Derry) colleague to leave my office for saying that Colm wasn't fit to lace Peter's boots. It can be very hard being a Kerry supporter up here sometimes
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 23, 2017 9:39:43 GMT
Mikey Sheehy was quoted in the Kerryman today that Brendan O'Sullivan is out with an ongoing injury. I am glad that he has not,been discarded although it is not good news if it is the back that is still bothering him. Shouldn't this thread be Kerry V Cavan? I read somewhere today that Philip Jordan claimed Colm Cooper was the greatest he has seen. An extraordinary evaluation when one considers he was a colleague of Peter Canavan. Technically the home team goes first but as this is a Kerry forum... Very pleased to see Philip Jordan's generous comments. I once advised a (Derry) colleague to leave my office for saying that Colm wasn't fit to lace Peter's boots. It can be very hard being a Kerry supporter up here sometimes Why did that comment upset you - all you needed to point out was that the Great Lord himself washed a lesser mans feet (John the Baptist I recollect) so lacing a lesser mans boots is simply a reflection of his humble magnificence.....
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Post by wayupnorth on Mar 23, 2017 11:06:14 GMT
Technically the home team goes first but as this is a Kerry forum... Very pleased to see Philip Jordan's generous comments. I once advised a (Derry) colleague to leave my office for saying that Colm wasn't fit to lace Peter's boots. It can be very hard being a Kerry supporter up here sometimes Why did that comment upset you - all you needed to point out was that the Great Lord himself washed a lesser mans feet (John the Baptist I recollect) so lacing a lesser mans boots is simply a reflection of his humble magnificence..... I wish I thought of that at the time!
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 23, 2017 22:16:33 GMT
Team for Cavan ? What ye reckon.
Good to hear Brendan O'Sullivan hasn't fallen off the panel. Has had a boit of bother with injuries the past two years. Could be an important player for Kerry yet in 2017.
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 24, 2017 14:55:57 GMT
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Post by Leathama on Mar 24, 2017 20:44:43 GMT
Team named:
1. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin 2. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes 3. Mark Griffin St Michaels-Foilmore 4. Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks 5. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers 6. Tadhg Morley Templenoe 7. Paul Murphy Rathmore 8. David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys 9. Jack Barry Na Gaeil 10. Adrian Spillane Templenoe 11. Kevin McCarthy Kilcummin 12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane 13. Jack Savage Kerins O’Rahillys 14. Paul Geaney Dingle 15. Stephen O’Brien Kenmare
Fir Ionaid:
16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion 17. Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys 18. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion 19. Darran O’Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar 20. Anthony Maher Duagh 21. Michael Geaney Dingle 22. Bryan Sheehan St Marys 23. Cathal Ó Lúing An Ghaeltacht 24. Denis Daly St Marys 25. Gavin Crowley Templenoe 26. Conor Keane Killarney Legion
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Post by ddtinexile on Mar 24, 2017 21:05:51 GMT
Where the F is he going with Fionn. Hanging about for years......going no where. Sorry and I hate criticising any one who pulls on the jersey but Fionn's day is past as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Mar 24, 2017 21:10:31 GMT
Strange one with fionn back there again. Think he offers nothing at this stage. Was shocking in last years league final
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Post by tpo on Mar 24, 2017 21:36:38 GMT
Could do a job on Seanie Johnson?
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 24, 2017 22:05:41 GMT
Daithi casey deserved a chance. No sign of him. Fionn is young enough to get a second wind and kick start his career. Mccarthy at 11 is interesting. Kerry will have to start getting five or six points from play from the half forward line.
Kealy ....does this mean that the rotation policy is at an end.
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Post by southward on Mar 24, 2017 22:16:56 GMT
No James again. It's worrying at this stage.
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Post by timmy on Mar 24, 2017 22:33:53 GMT
Daithi casey deserved a chance. No sign of him. Fionn is young enough to get a second wind and kick start his career. Mccarthy at 11 is interesting. Kerry will have to start getting five or six points from play from the half forward line. Kealy ....does this mean that the rotation policy is at an end. Exactly. Daithi Casey is surely better than Mike Geaney. He's hanging on there for years doing sweet FA. Eamonn definitely has his favourites and Mike is one of them.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 24, 2017 22:36:57 GMT
No James again. It's worrying at this stage. Don't think it's that serious - management are more interested in getting him fit for summer than taking any risks with him. I'd say with Fionn it's a case of needs must - Enright, Young, Foley, Beaglaoich and Tom O'Sullivan who would all be options for the full-back line are out for one reason or another. I'd say the lack of experience is a part of the reason Fionn is starting - if you took jim out of the starting 15 and started one of the other lads on the bench it would look a very inexperienced full-back line - Shanahan in the other corner in particular is very short of intercounty experience; makes more sense to go with the somewhat experienced player.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 24, 2017 23:12:41 GMT
A strange one to see Kevin McCarthy at CHF and Fionn corner back, but I think Fionn will be asked to do a man marking job on Johnston. The team looks defensive minded again with a strong half back line and midfield. Spillane and McCarthy should get plenty of game time and I think they showed enough to get more of it. Both are improving a lot. I'm surprised to not see Darran there, but he surely will come on later on and drive the nail. The bench looks very good considering our injury worries and much stronger than any Cavan can come up with. Not a fan of Fionn, but we have few other options. The game is made for OÓ Beaglaoich, but he isn't available. This should be two points. If not we should be really worried.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 24, 2017 23:42:28 GMT
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Post by badknee on Mar 25, 2017 0:17:36 GMT
If ye took any notice last Saturday night, Kevin Mccarthy was basically our Centre Forward anyway as our half forward line pulled back the field. He was picking up the ball and supplying the 2 boys inside, which he done very well may i add. Makes sense to play him there when they had to bring Paul Murphy back
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 25, 2017 9:19:03 GMT
Where the F is he going with Fionn. Hanging about for years......going no where. Sorry and I hate criticising any one who pulls on the jersey but Fionn's day is past as far as I'm concerned. I hate questioning genuine fellow forum members but why are fellas still on the panel if we can't play them? Are there better fellas not on the panel for some reason? Fionn lacks physique but that was also the reason PM didn't make it as a minor.
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Post by inchperfect on Mar 25, 2017 9:26:18 GMT
I don't mind Fionn Fitzgerald at wing back but not corner back. All Ireland Final 2015 should've been the nail in the coffin for him at corner back.
I would prefer Savage at centre forward and Darren O'Sullivan at corner forward but I suppose he wants to give McCarthy and Spillane more of a run.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 13:43:30 GMT
Fionn deserves his call up. Played well for Crokes . It's a joke Daithi Casey is not there. Way ahead of Mikey Geaney and Jonathan Lyne. They need to pick Murphy at wing back and keep him there . This switching him around is a joke. He's not a forward. Same with Kealy. If you pick then stick with him. Should be beating Cavan. That will make us safe and probably put them down with Roscommon.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 25, 2017 15:34:59 GMT
If anyone travellng from Dublin wants a free ticket I have an adult and juvenile sason ticket that I cant use tomorrow. PM for info. (dont tell the season ticket people)
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