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Post by An Bradán on Mar 19, 2017 21:09:11 GMT
It's been a bugbear of mine for years now. This incessant booing of all freetakers by Dublin supporters. The Hill boos in unison against opposition freetakers regardless of the misdemeanor. It it is completely unsporting and makes my blood boil. It is simply never even mentioned by commentators and the media which I feel it should be.
Even up in the upper Hogan in 2011 I had to turn around and kindly request a boo brigade directly behind me to give it a break from braying into my and my kids ears. Without any success needless to say.
Now we have our own shower of liodars carrying on in a similar fashion. The game last night was tense and tight but that's not an excuse for this stupid carry on. Kerry fans should not ape this unsporting behaviour and the ordinary decent fan should tell people so inclined to plug it.
Comparisons are odious they say but contrast this with the respect shown to kickers at Thomond Park. Supporters are occasionally reminded of their manners over the P.A.if someone breaches protocol (very rarely happens).
Can fellow supporters and the County Board instigate measures to end this plague of moronic booing at least at our homes games and among Kerry supporters.
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Post by falveyb2k on Mar 19, 2017 21:32:18 GMT
What can you realistically do? It's animal mentality, when you're in a group of numbers you can do what you like because there's no ramifications. Naturally enough they would never be brave enough to say anything to your face. It's going the same way as the premiership unfortunately, harass the opposition and pick a boo boy(it looks like Paul Geaney is the latest target) and behave like imbeciles.
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 19, 2017 22:00:56 GMT
Difficult for sure but the county board could take a lead on this. Public statements on a strictly no booing policy might help. Equally announcements over the P.A. before home games and at half time might start to get the idea across.
The mob mentality is very prevalent but has to be challenged. I remember being at a county hurling championship game featuring Lixnaw and one ogf their neighbours when some genius started roaring at Paul Galvin to stick to the big ball. The crowd around him turned on him (his own clubmates) and he wasn't long shutting up. Mob mentality unchallenged allows for personal abuse, racism and other evils to thrive.
Do we want to head down that path. I don't think so but we're heading there fast.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 19, 2017 22:02:06 GMT
Why would they be booing Paul Geaney?
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Post by falveyb2k on Mar 19, 2017 22:08:14 GMT
Cluxton grabbed Geaney, Geaney grabbed Cluxton and a shemozzle started. Therefore due to the sound reasoning of the fans behind the goal Paul was fair game for abuse for the rest of the match. As for heading down the path towards mob mentality leading to personal abuse, if you've been on the hill in the last few decades it's always been like that.
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Post by southward on Mar 19, 2017 22:31:50 GMT
I didn't notice any systematic booing by Kerry fans last night. Only time there was booing was for the Lowndes/Spillane incident and aftermath, and against the odd refereeing decision. Wasn't aware of Rock being targeted while taking frees or anything like that.
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Post by southward on Mar 19, 2017 22:38:53 GMT
Actually, the worst I've ever heard was Mayo fans in Limerick, 2014. Booing incessantly for the entire game. It was pathetic. Any traditional sympathy I had for them evaporated that evening.
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Post by wayupnorth on Mar 20, 2017 1:10:17 GMT
I checked into my Tralee hotel before the match yesterday and an angelic five year old Dublin girl who spotted my Kerry gear instinctively came out with the word "boo". If they are started that young what hope is there for the future?
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 20, 2017 6:53:44 GMT
It's been a bugbear of mine for years now. This incessant booing of all freetakers by Dublin supporters. The Hill boos in unison against opposition freetakers regardless of the misdemeanor. It it is completely unsporting and makes my blood boil. It is simply never even mentioned by commentators and the media which I feel it should be. Even up in the upper Hogan in 2011 I had to turn around and kindly request a boo brigade directly behind me to give it a break from braying into my and my kids ears. Without any success needless to say. Now we have our own shower of liodars carrying on in a similar fashion. The game last night was tense and tight but that's not an excuse for this stupid carry on. Kerry fans should not ape this unsporting behaviour and the ordinary decent fan should tell people so inclined to plug it. Comparisons are odious they say but contrast this with the respect shown to kickers at Thomond Park. Supporters are occasionally reminded of their manners over the P.A.if someone breaches protocol (very rarely happens). Can fellow supporters and the County Board instigate measures to end this plague of moronic booing at least at our homes games and among Kerry supporters. Booooooo!
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Post by inforthebreaks on Mar 20, 2017 9:04:05 GMT
It was cringeworthy to hear Kerry fans booing kevin mcmenamon whne he came on
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 20, 2017 9:26:12 GMT
Our own crowd were at it the minute Dublin came out on to the field, mostly kids and a few older clowns.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 9:32:02 GMT
It was cringeworthy to hear Kerry fans booing kevin mcmenamon whne he came on Agree, seemed a bit half hearted. Also thought it was partially aimed at mdma coming off.
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 20, 2017 9:39:26 GMT
Allowing them to congregate like a mob is the core problem - a mob takes a life of its own and this is nigh impossible to stop. The boo brigade were primarily behind the Mitchels end and just like the Hill they get their "strength" from their collective presence. GAA normally has supporters intermingling and this tends to keep manners on people (not always). They organised themselves on Saturday but my bug bear is the way they are handed the Hill year after year and their team invariably is left warm up in front of them for every big game.
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 20, 2017 9:39:32 GMT
Why would they be booing Paul Geaney? Any and every free taker is targetted by the supporters in blue. Our own were at it at least once on Sat eve. I go back to my original suggestion that the County Board should take a really strong lead on this and empower supporters to eliminate this moronic behaviour.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 20, 2017 9:54:56 GMT
Thankfully we weren't singing Ole Ole when Paul Murphy got the blood rush to the head when walking across the RSJ at the end of the game towards the gap!!!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 20, 2017 10:59:55 GMT
Why would they be booing Paul Geaney? Any and every free taker is targetted by the supporters in blue. Our own were at it at least once on Sat eve. I go back to my original suggestion that the County Board should take a really strong lead on this and empower supporters to eliminate this moronic behaviour. I would say look after your own house. County Board can't be expected to control people booing in my opinion.
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 20, 2017 11:48:37 GMT
Any and every free taker is targetted by the supporters in blue. Our own were at it at least once on Sat eve. I go back to my original suggestion that the County Board should take a really strong lead on this and empower supporters to eliminate this moronic behaviour. I would say look after your own house. County Board can't be expected to control people booing in my opinion. Not looking for them to police it....just set the tone. A crowd has to be self regulating but needs a lead and strong encouragement. I have no doubt that the vast majority have no time for that carry on and would respond positively.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 20, 2017 11:59:20 GMT
I would say look after your own house. County Board can't be expected to control people booing in my opinion. Not looking for them to police it....just set the tone. A crowd has to be self regulating but needs a lead and strong encouragement. I have no doubt that the vast majority have no time for that carry on and would respond positively. Personally, I'd rather not be spoken down to like a child through a tannoy. I know booing is wrong so I don't do it. If you ask me this is making a mountain out of a nuisance.
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Post by buck02 on Mar 20, 2017 12:19:10 GMT
Asking the County Board to announce over the tannoy for people to stop booing is a bit like Bishop Len Brennan asking Ted and Dougal to protest outside the cinema showing the Passion of Saint Tibulus.
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Post by inchperfect on Mar 20, 2017 12:35:23 GMT
You must understand most Dublin fans are soccer fans first and foremost, and they bring the mentality across with their soccer chants and booing etc. I heard that when they won an All Ireland in the 70's, Kevin Heffernan was asked "Are we in Europe now?"
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 20, 2017 12:44:53 GMT
And when the don the irish soccer jersey they change behaviour to be the best fans in the world, helping grannies across the street, picking up their litter etc...and singing to the cops.
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 20, 2017 12:54:24 GMT
Not looking for anyone to be talked down to Annascaul. Far from it. Not a great fan myself of public announcements but have ye other ideas lads ?
I mentioned Thomond Pk which is a good example of crowd self regulation strongly encouraged and backed by the club.
"Mountain out of a nuisance"....Perhaps but in my estimation the levels of abuse and disrespect from supporters are slowly rising year by year.
I'm going to games a fair few years. I can remember attending games back in the late 70's. I might be an ould fool but all I am looking for is a some sense of mutual respect amongst rival supporters and for the players on the pitch. There have always been idiots on all sides...some wearing green/gold colours too but they were a distinct minority and thankfully still are. We should try all in our power to keep it that way.
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Post by keane on Mar 20, 2017 12:57:11 GMT
The booing doesn't bother me all that much but I think the idea of the CB making a big public effort to encourage fans to rise above it is a nice idea.
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 20, 2017 14:15:31 GMT
The public address system in Tralee on Saturday night was brutal - faint mutterings and every second word was all I could hear on the terrace. Strange that this was not addressed (from a Health and Safety perspective at a minimum) when the upgrade was done.
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 20, 2017 14:23:04 GMT
The public address system in Tralee on Saturday night was brutal - faint mutterings and every second word was all I could hear on the terrace. Strange that this was not addressed (from a Health and Safety perspective at a minimum) when the upgrade was done. It was cat. I haven't been impressed with the new floodlights either.
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 20, 2017 14:45:40 GMT
The public address system in Tralee on Saturday night was brutal - faint mutterings and every second word was all I could hear on the terrace. Strange that this was not addressed (from a Health and Safety perspective at a minimum) when the upgrade was done. It was cat. I haven't been impressed with the new floodlights either. Snap.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Mar 20, 2017 14:57:31 GMT
How can you ban booing? Ludicrous suggestion - you're always going to have idiots in a crowd
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 20, 2017 15:30:02 GMT
The public address system in Tralee on Saturday night was brutal - faint mutterings and every second word was all I could hear on the terrace. Strange that this was not addressed (from a Health and Safety perspective at a minimum) when the upgrade was done. It was cat. I haven't been impressed with the new floodlights either. They might be new floodlights but it seems that they are still using the same 20 watt bulbs. They need to do a better job with the ones planned for Fitzgerald stadium. Once is bad enough, twice is taking the mickey but a third time someone would have to be put forward to face the firing squad. Hard enough to see the numbers on the jerseys on occasion in day-light but when the team is playing in the evening under something that doesn't seem much better than a street light it's gone beyond a joke.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 20, 2017 15:38:24 GMT
I wonder had the lights any role in Paul Murphys mistake at the end. I saw an u21 player double looking against Clare in the recent u21 game at ASP.
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Post by An Bradán on Mar 20, 2017 16:44:08 GMT
How can you ban booing? Ludicrous suggestion - you're always going to have idiots in a crowd Pity you didn't actually read the post. Banning booing and idiotic behaviour at games is impossible unless we move to North Korea but I would argue that peer pressure by supporters with the strong lead of the GAA would go a long way to eliminating some of the yobbish behaviour. The Give Respect / Get Respect initiative aimed at underage football is an example of a decent initiative rolled out nationwide in 2010 which most clubs adhere to. There are elements of it which should be rolled out across all ages. www.gaa.ie/mm/Document/TheGAA/ChildProtectionandWelfare/12/20/75/GIVERESPECT-GETRESPECT_English.pdfSo how difficult would it be for H.Q. to address the boorish behaviour of a minority of fans at inter county and club games?Not so difficult at all. I've seen a guy turfed out of Croke Park for messy behaviour on A.I. Final day. Sadly it was a Kerry youth being ejected from the Hill area. In all areas of life behaviours are and become the norm until challenged and a new normality is accepted. Maybe not so ludicrous after all.
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