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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Mar 18, 2017 20:43:54 GMT
Don't anyone give nonsense about Kerry playing well. Third man tackles, sneaky digs, and that's the half of it. Is that what we are reduced to?
When we had the wind in the second half why not bring Sheehan on an out him in full forward? He would have kicked anything from 60 yards. Terrible mistake by Murphy at end. Why wasn't our best foot passer like Moran taking it?
We didn't deserve the win. How many kickouts did we lose in the second half?
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Post by fenit67 on Mar 18, 2017 20:50:42 GMT
What was going through Paul Murphy's mind with that kick with time almost up? Brainless. Brendan Kealy's kickouts regularly fall into the same brainless category. Yet again Kerry managed to squander a 4 point lead and when they managed to reestablish a 2 point lead they found a way of making a mess of it. This sort of thoughtless football means that we will not win the All-Ireland this year as there is now a mind-set that says they cannot beat Dublin. Just not good enough and all the "it's only the league" or "shur it's only March" does not work any longer as that becomes the mindset. There is no serious football until May then June and then August; how can you not take the league seriously with that sort of cock-eyed organisation? Sam will not be coming here in September so we may as well get used to the idea.
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Post by stevieq on Mar 18, 2017 21:08:19 GMT
Disappointed. The draw felt like a loss. However, a loss would have been in thinkable and very nearly happened. Having the best free taker in the country on the bench. Jesus. Stand out performances from Morley, Moran, Geaney, Darren when he came on. Kealy doesn't hit the target on a couple of occasions and he has to go. Cluxton missed more and he's the best in the country!
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Post by kerryfanatic on Mar 18, 2017 21:09:15 GMT
I think we need to be positive, we drew, we didn't lose, and a lot of potential to kick on from here. A lot better result than what people in this forum expected from reading the posts prior to this. Well done kerry, onwards and upwards....
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Post by kerryboy83 on Mar 18, 2017 21:14:29 GMT
People on here were giving Kerry no chance . At least we didn't lose but Paul murphy what were you thinking 😕😕😕
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 21:21:06 GMT
Certainly feels like we left two points behind us. It was a niggly nasty game and both teams have to take the blame for that.
Moran, Morley and Geaney were the standout players for me.
Overall I would not be too depressed. We competed well with Dublin and could have won quite easily.
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Post by stevieq on Mar 18, 2017 21:25:37 GMT
I think we need to be positive, we drew, we didn't lose, and a lot of potential to kick on from here. A lot better result than what people in this forum expected from reading the posts prior to this. Well done kerry, onwards and upwards.... Agree. Plenty to be positive about. Kerry looked the better team for 75% of that game. Paul Murphy's mistake was the only thing from having Mick Mac eating his Paddy's Day hat. However last touch let them down on numerous occasions in the first half and Kerry were at least 4-5 points the better team in the first half. I think Dublin are there for the taking come summer.
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Post by farneysarmy on Mar 18, 2017 21:38:27 GMT
Certainly feels like we left two points behind us. It was a niggly nasty game and both teams have to take the blame for that. Moran, Morley and Geaney were the standout players for me. Overall I would not be too depressed. We competed well with Dublin and could have won quite easily. The only reason you competed well with them was because Kerry fouled systematically to slow the flow of play & Break up the Dublin runners. I've never seen a Kerry team having to resort to the behaviour more commonly associated with us Nordies. Quite depressing really given Kerry's tradition. #gaa
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 18, 2017 21:38:43 GMT
You have the wrong man there as regards eating his hat!
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Post by taggert on Mar 18, 2017 22:05:04 GMT
Entertaining fare with an absolutely brilliant atmosphere. Certainly niggly but none of the top teams are shrinking violets when it comes to the physical and cynical stuff.
Some good performances but some poor ones also. Free taking still a big issue as contrasted by Rock for Dublin. Ponderous kick and risky kick outs also a big issue.
Dublin didnt start Brogan, Connolly, Flynn, McManamon, CianOSul,James McCarthy, Jack McCaffrey, Johnny Cooper which gives an indication of the depth of their current squad - they aren't going away anytime soon.
The pace and stamina required to stand up to Dublins relentless running support game for 70 mind plus means we need to think about meeting fire with fire going forward - when C Kilkenny moved to midfield in the second half he was at the heart of all Dublins moves. Instead of allowing Morley follow him out the field and continue his stranglehold on him, we effectively let him off the leash....
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 18, 2017 22:05:57 GMT
No point berating Murphy.
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 18, 2017 22:13:37 GMT
Great pace in tonight's game with strong running by both sides. Dublin relied on frees for most of their early scores and some calls (both ways) were on the soft side. Couldn't help but wonder if the ref is as whistle happy when on duty in his native Tyrone.
Dublin have now four draws in the last 12 months coming from behind in most of those to salvage a draw - great mental strength and self belief but gives me hope as I think one crack and the order may change. Kerry need to discover some self belief - we had the winning of tonight's game if we used our heads. Some rash long range attempts and a few stray balls - overall I think this game will benefit Kerry more than Dublin in the long run.
Enjoyable game but frustrating result.
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Post by stevieq on Mar 18, 2017 22:13:47 GMT
You have the wrong man there as regards eating his hat! Sorry Mickmac. It was Kerrygold that was just about to tuck into his hat. It's all those black stars that has me confused. Just about calming down after a fairly heated match and the Dublin team bus pulls up outside the hotel. Might go out and give Philly a big kiss the little teddy bear that he is.
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Post by southward on Mar 18, 2017 22:16:45 GMT
No point berating Murphy. In fairness to Murphy, there didn't seem to be anyone showing for it.
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 18, 2017 22:17:02 GMT
You have the wrong man there as regards eating his hat! Sorry Mickmac. It was Kerrygold that was just about to tuck into his hat. It's all those black stars that has me confused. Just about calming down after a fairly heated match and the Dublin team bus pulls up outside the hotel. Might go out and give Philly a big kiss the little teddy bear that he is. Give that thug O Gara a rasper - he came on tonight and spent the entire time throwing his weight around with little interest in playing football.
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Post by southward on Mar 18, 2017 22:21:26 GMT
As in the Mayo game, frees were the undoing of us. Kept the Dubs to 4 points from play. And people say Mayo are ahead of us?
I thought we were superb on Cluxton's kickouts tonight.
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Post by Leathama on Mar 18, 2017 22:22:32 GMT
Murphy's misplaced pass was not the 'losing' of this game. We should have been out the gate aside from missed frees & 45's and headless, ponderous shooting towards the end.
We're crying out for a 40m+ freetaker and strategy/consistent taker for 45s that hits the same percentages or close to Rock/O Connor.
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Post by stevieq on Mar 18, 2017 22:26:02 GMT
Did anyone see the match on telly. Surely there was some clear punches thrown maybe on both sides but definetlly thought I saw my old buddy Cluxton swinging.
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Post by southward on Mar 18, 2017 22:29:20 GMT
Any news on Shane's injury? Or Killian's ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 22:31:14 GMT
Should have won it. Played with great heart and fire. Tackled hard in the first half. That's the way you have to play Dublin. Moran was very good. Geaney always looked dangerous. Darren played well. Morley. O'Brien had his moments. A lot of positives to take. They blew a 4 point lead. That's a problem I would have. Dublin proved again they're a hard side to beat. Some good things to take for the Cavan game. Some of the refs calls were terrible.
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Post by southward on Mar 18, 2017 22:35:08 GMT
Questionable decision to take Barry off, I thought. Subs all did well though.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 18, 2017 22:35:35 GMT
Did Paul Geaney score nine points from play and frees?
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Post by southward on Mar 18, 2017 22:37:06 GMT
Did Paul Geaney score nine points from play and frees? Seven (4 frees).
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Post by kerryfanatic on Mar 18, 2017 22:45:37 GMT
Can we still make league final
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Post by seaniebo on Mar 18, 2017 22:51:12 GMT
That performance was light years ahead of the Monaghan game. It wouldn't surprise me if we revert to a flat showing against Cavan although I'd expect us to claim the two points in any case.
Anyone berating Paul Murphy would want to step back before doing so. He was magnificent for most of the game. It's the missed opportunities we had is the galling thing, a gilt edged chance by Murphy included. We had more than enough opportunities to win this one which is why I'm more than happy with the overall performance. One stray pass shouldn't define Paul's performance.
The Dubs emptied their bench in that second half and had us on the ropes only for us to dig deep and respond with serious resolve. We showed plenty of grit when they had the run on us. We were the better team overall.
Someone mentioned Kilkenny and his switch to midfield.. That turned out to be an inspired move. Special mention to Tadgh Morley.. Exceptional throughout.
My own view is that the Dubs had a free dart tonight. They remain the team to beat and continue to prove hard to beat. The onus was on Kerry to turn them over. They will be delighted heading back to the capital after another good cut was had off them. Are they coming back to the pack a little is the question?
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 18, 2017 22:51:47 GMT
The way the game went didn't suprise me. It was always going to be a dogfight.Especially with Kerry at home. But for me Kerry needed to win this dogfight. Fitzmaurice sent out a team to disrupt Dublin by any means necessary and then capitalise on our reactions . It nearly worked. But I was happy leaving Austin stack park. A few lads here obviously will disagree but I don't think the tactics tonight will work in Croker if the two teams meet will full squads. O Gara is a liability for us and nearly cost us the game , although Murphy gifted us the equaliser. When Kerry were 4 up ye missed a 45 i think to go further ahead, which I think had it went over could of won the game . Then when we were 2 points up and on the attack Lowndes gave a poor pass that resulted in ye going up the field and getting a point,again had we scored and went 3 up I think we would of won those are the margins. I don't think either team done enough to deserve the win.
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Post by southward on Mar 18, 2017 22:53:41 GMT
Can we still make league final If we win our last 2, yes we can, maybe depending on other results. This is very do-able. Amazingly, Donegal are joint-top at the moment
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 18, 2017 23:15:13 GMT
The way the game went didn't suprise me. It was always going to be a dogfight.Especially with Kerry at home. But for me Kerry needed to win this dogfight. Fitzmaurice sent out a team to disrupt Dublin by any means necessary and then capitalise on our reactions . It nearly worked. But I was happy leaving Austin stack park. A few lads here obviously will disagree but I don't think the tactics tonight will work in Croker if the two teams meet will full squads. O Gara is a liability for us and nearly cost us the game , although Murphy gifted us the equaliser. When Kerry were 4 up ye missed a 45 i think to go further ahead, which I think had it went over could of won the game . Then when we were 2 points up and on the attack Lowndes gave a poor pass that resulted in ye going up the field and getting a point,again had we scored and went 3 up I think we would of won those are the margins. I don't think either team done enough to deserve the win. Yes it is fair to say ye are not playing with a full deck.
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Post by thebluepanther on Mar 18, 2017 23:30:53 GMT
The way the game went didn't suprise me. It was always going to be a dogfight.Especially with Kerry at home. But for me Kerry needed to win this dogfight. Fitzmaurice sent out a team to disrupt Dublin by any means necessary and then capitalise on our reactions . It nearly worked. But I was happy leaving Austin stack park. A few lads here obviously will disagree but I don't think the tactics tonight will work in Croker if the two teams meet will full squads. O Gara is a liability for us and nearly cost us the game , although Murphy gifted us the equaliser. When Kerry were 4 up ye missed a 45 i think to go further ahead, which I think had it went over could of won the game . Then when we were 2 points up and on the attack Lowndes gave a poor pass that resulted in ye going up the field and getting a point,again had we scored and went 3 up I think we would of won those are the margins. I don't think either team done enough to deserve the win. Yes it is fair to say ye are not playing with a full deck. I suppose for Kerry tonight was getting a bit of pride back after a couple of poor performances recently, They done that in spades . I've always said it mc Geaney is class. Moran done well at times tonight . Murphy is a great little player. But the reality is Kerry are now aping Tyrone and Donegal in trying to nullify the Dubs . It's quite possible ye might beat us doing it, but being honest at times tonight it was hard to watch . I don't think I've ever seen a game with the amount of off the ball tackles to stop runners.
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Post by playitfair on Mar 18, 2017 23:39:58 GMT
In fairness, there was more than just kerry at it.
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