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Post by glengael on Sept 18, 2017 8:37:10 GMT
Details of the homecoming are on Fossa GAA's Facebook page.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 9:13:24 GMT
Does anyone know what'll be the curtain raiser in next years final now that the minor grade is gone.
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Post by himself on Sept 18, 2017 9:34:30 GMT
To answer a question asked earlier, David Clifford was U16 in 2015 and a rule introduced in 2014 made U16s ineligible for inter-county minor. Jack O'Connor, Kerry manager at the time, made no secret of the fact that David Clifford would have been a certainty for his panel if eligible.
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Post by OnTheForty on Sept 18, 2017 9:46:54 GMT
Does anyone know what'll be the curtain raiser in next years final now that the minor grade is gone. There will still be a minor grade next year, but it changes from U18 to U17.
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Post by veteran on Sept 18, 2017 9:50:32 GMT
Mickmack, will you be putting up the minor final. That one is for posterity. One to savour over the dark winter.
I know it is a huge request , but maybe you could put the four minor finals. In any case I would be hugely indebted to you could start with Sunday's match at your leisure.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Sept 18, 2017 9:58:06 GMT
Does anyone know what'll be the curtain raiser in next years final now that the minor grade is gone. Is it not the case that minor is still there but it's just u-17. And that it'll still be the curtain raiser before senior alll irelands.
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Post by buck02 on Sept 18, 2017 10:05:44 GMT
I was very confident of a comfortable victory before the game but I didnt expect Kerry to give a 10/10 performance like they did. The final last year was the only game they didnt perform to their levels but Peter Keane made sure that didnt happen this year.
The major issue now we have to deal with is how to ensure that these lads progress to the next level. We seem to have failed that with a few of the 2014 and 2015 minors. We have the systems in place to ensure our best U14/15/16 players can be handed over to the minor management as gems that just need to be polished. We need to made sure that the 19/20/21 year olds can be handed over to the senior management ready to play at that level now.
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Post by wayupnorth on Sept 18, 2017 10:09:47 GMT
Does anyone know what'll be the curtain raiser in next years final now that the minor grade is gone. There will still be a minor grade next year, but it changes from U18 to U17. Comical to listen to commentators this morning saying "there will be no drive for five". If and of course it's a big if we win next year it will be five minors in a row.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 18, 2017 10:25:17 GMT
I presume Peter Keane is staying on? He must have proven himself as a manager now and will move along the progression line accordingly in due course.
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Post by hugh20 on Sept 18, 2017 10:37:40 GMT
Well done to Peter Keane and also his management and backroom staff. To the players, you were a credit to yourselves, your families and the county. Phenomenal performance from a spectacular team, congratulations and we hope to see you all in the green and gold at Senior level.
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Post by An Bradán on Sept 18, 2017 10:50:04 GMT
Congratulations and well done to all involved. A great win. Phenomenal to get 4 in a row. Wasn't so long ago we couldn't get near a final.
Time for some of the year 1 guys to get their chance now. We are need of a major refit at senior and after watching the senior final yesterday we are a good bit back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 12:13:33 GMT
There will still be a minor grade next year, but it changes from U18 to U17. Comical to listen to commentators this morning saying "there will be no drive for five". If and of course it's a big if we win next year it will be five minors in a row. Good stuff, for such an incredible run, it'd be a shame to see it end because the structures have changed! So the drive for five is on!
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Post by kerryexile on Sept 18, 2017 12:59:44 GMT
Congratulations to the minors - great win.
There were a number of positives - the performance of David Clifford, the performance of the backs, and probably most important, the performance of Peter Keane.
If some of you younger contributors hear us talk about something missing in Kerry senior performances and how they don’t play the Kerry way, you don’t have to wonder any longer. Yesterdays minor performance was vintage Kerry. Peter Keane must be given credit for that. With up to 100 players with minor medals to pick from next season maybe he is the man to integrate them into the senior team.
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Post by hatchetman on Sept 18, 2017 14:20:01 GMT
I suppose to a certain extent his decision as to whether or not to stay on will be influenced by the quality of the u16s who will make up the u17 panel next year. Are many of this year's u17 team eligible for next year?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 14:29:48 GMT
As i said already, very hard to gauge this team and mgt given the outlandish impact that Clifford has had these past two years.
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 18, 2017 14:34:50 GMT
I still find it difficult to understand why the grade was changed from U18 to U17 - the arguements about burn out and clashing with Leaving Cert dont hold water for me, particularly as they GAA themselves obviosuly dont believe it as the changes only apply to football.
The difference between U17 and U18 football is significant and the dropping of the U21 to U20 is equally perplexing as it only serves to accentuate the gap from underage to senior.
It is also clear from attendances the the minor grade is not attractive to the majority of GAA fans as they dont bother attending until the game is over and the senior build up begins. Is it time to put the final of the u20 or more likely a B championship on the undercard for the senior final going forward.
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Post by clarinman on Sept 18, 2017 14:41:26 GMT
I still find it difficult to understand why the grade was changed from U18 to U17 - the arguements about burn out and clashing with Leaving Cert dont hold water for me, particularly as they GAA themselves obviosuly dont believe it as the changes only apply to football.
The difference between U17 and U18 football is significant and the dropping of the U21 to U20 is equally perplexing as it only serves to accentuate the gap from underage to senior. It is also clear from attendances the the minor grade is not attractive to the majority of GAA fans as they dont bother attending until the game is over and the senior build up begins. Is it time to put the final of the u20 or more likely a B championship on the undercard for the senior final going forward. The change to U17 in 2018 applies to both football and hurling. The new U20 grade applies to football only. The hurling U21 championship remains as is.
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 18, 2017 14:47:19 GMT
As i said already, very hard to gauge this team and mgt given the outlandish impact that Clifford has had these past two years. The minors scored an incredible 15-115 in their six games this year. That is an average of over 26 points per game. His 11 points average (think his tally was 8-42) was a great contribution but it was far from a one man team so credit should go to the squad including management - management also did a great job keeping them motivated and focussed despite some big scorelines over the long and drawn out season. Together as a squad for over ten months with only six games and all the distractions of being 17/18 years of age.
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Post by youngblood on Sept 18, 2017 16:07:24 GMT
I suppose to a certain extent his decision as to whether or not to stay on will be influenced by the quality of the u16s who will make up the u17 panel next year. Are many of this year's u17 team eligible for next year? No, the whole under 17 panel from his Year was made up of players at the age. The U16s from past year look strong
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 18, 2017 16:34:45 GMT
Spare a thought for the Derry minors. Awful filletting to have to endure on their big day.
Veteran....I saw your post ....leave it with me.
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 18, 2017 16:40:27 GMT
Congratulations to the minors - great win. There were a number of positives - the performance of David Clifford, the performance of the backs, and probably most important, the performance of Peter Keane. If some of you younger contributors hear us talk about something missing in Kerry senior performances and how they don’t play the Kerry way, you don’t have to wonder any longer. Yesterdays minor performance was vintage Kerry. Peter Keane must be given credit for that. With up to 100 players with minor medals to pick from next season maybe he is the man to integrate them into the senior team. I would certainly go along with that - Peter Keane has shown himself to be a shrewd operator, knows his team/players and has had them at concert pitch when it mattered - did a good job previously with St Marys and Legion too. Strange to see Jack having been appointed to the U-20s prior to the end of this years minor championship - the U-20s would have been the natural progression for Peter, doubtful if the county board have something else in mind for him; would be surprised if he stayed with the U-17s so maybe a move to club management is on the cards. If he was willing to serve with the seniors under EF and take on the job in 2019 think it would be a worthwhile move. Time will tell.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Sept 18, 2017 17:24:06 GMT
Heartiest congrats to the kerry panel and management. Football, brilliant in it's simplicity and execution. A fantastic achievement.
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Post by Kingdomson on Sept 18, 2017 17:48:50 GMT
Congratulations to our Kerry minors on their tremendous performance and victory. 4-in-row is a magnificent achievement and we only hope our senior team reap the dividends in the not too distant future.
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Post by homerj on Sept 18, 2017 19:49:26 GMT
So any1 care to name the players out of the 4 in a row teams that can be senior players over the next 3 years?
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Post by ballhopper34 on Sept 18, 2017 19:56:47 GMT
Congrats to all involved in a very special day for Kerry football.
Great work at development squad and overall coaching well before minor age should also be recognized as being first class. Now to get a few to fill out in the physical department by age 21 or so is the challenge.
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Post by hatchetman on Sept 18, 2017 20:19:50 GMT
So any1 care to name the players out of the 4 in a row teams that can be senior players over the next 3 years? I might be going out on a limb here but I think Clifford has a chance.
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Post by augustafield on Sept 18, 2017 20:23:50 GMT
Congrats to all . Beautiful football to watch . Direct snappy and focused . Kick passing at its best . A credit to the green and gold one and all and played in the best traditions of Kerry football . No rush with those minors or those of the last few years . Give them time . They are our future and what prospects . It would have been a few lonely Septembers without them !
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 18, 2017 20:30:52 GMT
Maurice had more skills, better kicker of the ball.
Foley 3, Begley 5, Barry 6, Tom Sullivan 7
Mark O'Connor 8, Sean O'Shea 11, Clifford 14, Conor Geaney.
Very good centre back from Beaufort on last years team, can't think of his name.
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 18, 2017 20:55:02 GMT
Maurice had more skills, better kicker of the ball. Foley 3, Begley 5, Barry 6, Tom Sullivan 7 Mark O'Connor 8, Sean O'Shea 11, Clifford 14, Conor Geaney. Very good centre back from Beaufort on last years team, can't think of his name. Mike Breen
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Post by kerryexile on Sept 18, 2017 21:03:27 GMT
So any1 care to name the players out of the 4 in a row teams that can be senior players over the next 3 years? I might be going out on a limb here but I think Clifford has a chance. I would agree with you. His physical development should be managed over the winter. He could be introduced as a sub in league games. Depending on how he responds and considering what O'Callaghan has done for Dublin and the Cork hurlers he may be ready to play the final quarter and pick off vital scores in the championship next year not to mention kicking 45s. The biggest obstacle is Eamonn's hesitance to play young players.
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