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Post by kerrygold on Feb 2, 2017 9:33:49 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 2, 2017 10:22:50 GMT
Oh I dont think its arrogance or being out of touch.
They know well.
Its just that they dont care.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 2, 2017 10:27:43 GMT
Surely that is the same thing?
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 2, 2017 11:13:43 GMT
The leaders of some organisations are in Ivory Towers and out of touch.
I dont think the GAA is.
I believe that all they care about is "adding the hapenny to the pence".
I believe the GAA dont care that certain parts of its constituency are discommoded by the Sky thing
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 2, 2017 11:22:42 GMT
Concern over GAA attendances despite profit growth Crowds at All-Ireland series fell by 40,000 – mostly in qualifiers and quarter-finals about 5 hours ago Seán Moran
0 The 2016 All-Ireland final replay between Dublin and Mayo at Croke Park: Croke Park showed increased revenue, up €5 million to €41.5 million, and operating profit, up €500,000 to €10.6 million. Photograph: Inpho The 2016 All-Ireland final replay between Dublin and Mayo at Croke Park: Croke Park showed increased revenue, up €5 million to €41.5 million, and operating profit, up €500,000 to €10.6 million. Photograph: Inpho S The GAA’s top finance officers have expressed concerns about attendance figures despite the association’s finances for 2016 being described as “solid” and “steady” and showing a €3 million increase in gate receipts. Director of finance Tom Ryan said “the number of people attending matches, needs consideration” whereas Croke Park stadium director Peter McKenna commented that “match day attendances are flat”. This is reflected in both the crowds at the All-Ireland series, which fell five per cent or 40,000 – mostly in the qualifiers and quarter-finals but the second successive year that a fall has been recorded – and the Leinster football championship in which attendances were affected by Dublin’s continuing domination and the clash of the Ireland-France Euro ’16 match with the provincial semi-finals. The average championship attendance fell from 19,211 to 17,472; football was down seven per cent in total from 516,767 to 533,076 and hurling by just one per cent, 272,996 to 269,475. The concerns were however more of a caveat in the context of financial reports that showed revenues and profitability rising again after a dip last year. Central Council income came in at €60.5 million, nearly €4 million up on 2015 while Croke Park showed increased revenue, up €5 million to €41.5 million, and operating profit, up €500,000 to €10.6 million. Annual statement Central Council’s annual statement also showed an operating surplus of around €10 million, up 29 per cent on 2015 while Croke Park’s grant or dividend to the GAA was at €7.5 million the biggest such transfer, excepting the years of the rugby and soccer rents. Nonetheless GAA director general Páraic Duffy said the becalmed attendances strengthened the argument in favour of the championship reforms he had drawn up and which have since been endorsed by Central Council. These propose to introduce additional matches with a round-robin format at the All-Ireland quarter-final stage of the football. ADVERTISEMENT Click here! “I think they probably do,” he said. “As Tom said football attendances have been falling at the qualifier stage – not so much from the quarter-finals on – and I do think if the proposal is passed it will boost attendances. It’s important not just from a financial point of view but from the point of view of how the games are perceived, more people going to games – I think it will help, yeah.” The increase in gate receipts was helped by the first All-Ireland football final replay in 16 years but given that the same counties, Dublin and Mayo, also replayed a football semi-final in 2015 the benefit to attendances was negligible even if revenues improved to some extent. The Kilkenny and Waterford All-Ireland hurling semi-final replay in Thurles was worth €1 million to Central Council. As the football final replay was worth in the region of €4 million the two draws in question essentially accounted for the increase in revenue on 2015. Figures for 2016 also benefited from a full house at the football league final between Dublin and Kerry on the day of “Laochra” the 1916 commemoration, the staging of four Dublin divisional football matches in Croke Park as opposed to three this season and the fact the international rules Test against Australia at the end of 2015 came into the current accounting period. Distributions Distributions to the counties and other units were up by eight per cent at €13.5 million, its highest level. There were questions about the €1.46 million in games development grants allocated to Dublin although it has declined as a percentage from 47 per cent to around 25 per cent. “It’s a tricky one,” replied Ryan, “and it’s one that I don’t mind admitting, we’ve tried to give a fair bit of thought to over the course of the year. The short answer is no it won’t persist over the course of the next few years. There’s not going to be a revolutionary change to it. We’ll change it in evolutionary terms rather than in one fell swoop. “Under Dublin, the first thing is to say that the money is being well spent. I’d be far more uncomfortable sitting here if that level of investment wasn’t being put to good use and I do understand the dynamic when people look at on-field results, then look at the amount of funding. I’m not sure the degree to which there’s a 100 per cent correlation but it would be naive to assume that there’s not some degree of correlation. “What we’ll try to do, we’ll try to grow the other counties. If you look at last year’s one, I think you’ll see we have tried to do that. We have achieved that to a certain degree and we’ll try and do that next year.” Ryan also expressed concern about the cost of insurance claims, the most sizeable of which – 66 per cent of the total – he said were related to non-GAA-core activities. He was however reassured that the situation was more “under control” than in recent years.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 3, 2017 8:28:04 GMT
The unofficial anthem of Kerry sung here by a wonderful singer, Muhammad Al-Hussaini, from Iraq (who has several songs in the Irish language) in his repertoire
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 3, 2017 10:18:54 GMT
The unofficial anthem of Kerry sung here by a wonderful singer, Muhammad Al-Hussaini, from Iraq (who has several songs in the Irish language) in his repertoire An Irish speaker as well. Heard of him before. Wonderful voice. It has been noted many times that there are similarities between traditional music and singing from the middle east and séan nós. Other practices like keening also link to mediterranean origins as do many of the tales. It shows that Ireland wasn't the edge of the world in ancient history, but very much at the heart of everything. Personally I have always believed in Phoenician links, but there are those that believe the Irish might be the lost tribe of Israel or the refugees from Troy. These tales often point at a more distant past though of migration and often get interwoven with more well known myths. A lot of work still to be done for archaeologists. UCC has a wonderful lady from Dingle teaching about Ireland's musical heritage and I discussed the links between musical styles from around Europe and the middle east with her before. I find it fascinating. I even find it in the traditional music in Belgium where many different styles have created a blend: there is similarities sometimes with Tex Mex as many emigrants went to the southern US and the region I was born in was Spanish a long time, there is a musical link with Austria, the brass bands and jodeling as the region has been Austrian too, strong links with German music as the region only became Belgian in 1920, French music, Dutch music, a Celtic substrate and so on, and so on. In a more recent past we have had many new arrivals from Spain, Italy, Turkey and Morocco, all bringing their own music, but the biggest influence on music in my own family was Klezmer music and Romani music. It created a melting pot of musical styles and a new version of folk music. Irish trad too evolved over the years and even between the 80s and now it is obvious how Irish traditional music keeps involving. It goes back and forth across the Atlantic too and bluegrass, country music and blues are indebted to Irish music though Irish traditional music has also picked up a thing or two from them. I really love the Carolina Chocolate drops and old style bluegrass or American folk like that; it's obvious to hear how African music has mixed with Irish music, but also the Scots Irish traditions, German music and a whole host of other styles. A band from Clare, at the racket, use a Saxophone (another Belgian invention I'd like to add) in traditional music giving it elements of jazz manouche. I met a Romani gypsy in Rathkeale not too long ago who was greatly influenced by Django Reinhardt (another Belgian) and the Rosenbergs (Dutch gypsies), but played Irish traditional music a lot of the time. There too there are links between how the guitar is played in manouche and how it is played in Irish trad. Long story, but what I was trying to say is how wonderful it is that Irish traditional music is still so alive around the world and how exciting is it that it keeps getting adopted and adapted by musicians from so different musical backgrounds.
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Post by kot on Feb 8, 2017 11:02:15 GMT
www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/we-dont-look-back-on-the-past-we-cant-change-what-has-happened-35433015.htmlA frank conversation with Pat O'Shea at the start of 2016 acted as a metaphorical kick up the rear end for Daithi Casey, and Dr Crokes. SHARE GO TO "Pat came in at the start of the year and said, 'You have more in the locker and we need to get more out of you'. I took that as a challenge on myself and I've been happy with how the year has gone," Casey said. "That was coming because I hadn't performed to the level that I'd like to over the previous two years, none of us had, we hadn't won, we hadn't done the business. The players let the standards slip over the two years. "And I won't say it was just me, but I would consider myself a leader in the team and the fact that I wasn't doing it regularly and in the big games, I think that affected us not doing it and not winning." Those words had the desired effect and with Kerry's 2007 All-Ireland-winning manager back at the helm of his native club, Casey bagged a hat-trick, including a spectacular goal of the season contender, in their Munster club final rout of The Nire. That sets up another All-Ireland semi-final place for Kerry greats Colm 'Gooch' Cooper and 37-year-old Eoin Brosnan, who have suffered setbacks at that same stage four times in the past decade, and Casey feels Saturday's mouth-watering tie with Corofin will push the Killarney kingpins to the limit. Lessons have been learned from the past, they no longer take success for granted but they won't be looking back ahead of their "once-off" clash with the 2015 Andy Merrigan Cup winners with vice-captain Casey believing hurt is not a driving factor for their squad. "Going on to win the Munster club was fantastic; it was like winning the first one. When you're doing so well a few years ago you were nearly taking it for granted. Now that we're back, we're taking it one step at a time," the AIB Munster Player of the Year said. "We don't look back, I don't think back to past losses. We haven't changed our preparations too much. I think the biggest thing is hopefully we've gained experience over the last number of years to get us over the line this time. We didn't take any break over the Christmas and we've trained hard all the time." Casey, who famously won SFC titles in two different counties in 2011 (with UCC and Dr Crokes), is in scintillating form and after his previous stint with the Kingdom came to a premature end, "it would be great to get back in" if the call came from Eamonn Fitzmaurice. Surplus The primary school teacher tore a tendon in his knee three years ago but collected an All-Ireland medal with Kerry from the stands before being deemed surplus to requirements the following spring. Rather than define him it has helped shape his future. "When I was first coming up at 19 or 20 with Kerry, I was probably lazy, a more skilful fella. The game has changed so I've had to become more of an athlete and more into the defensive side of it," the 26-year-old said. "I was so young I didn't appreciate what I had to do to make it with Kerry and the professionalism that fellas have these days is through the roof. I just expected that I could go at it and, unfortunately, I wasn't cutting it and I've looked at myself and I wasn't doing the business and in Kerry I'm not exactly going for the easiest place - the forwards is where all the competition is. "I honestly just wasn't doing it. I wasn't living up to the standards. I think at the time he (Fitzmaurice) made the right call. I've re-evaluated and it made me come back a better player. I think I'm more confident now. I wasn't getting that much time. You want to be playing games all the time. "I want to be playing as much as I can and enjoying as much as I can. I think that's come back to me this year. Maybe my time with Kerry could be finished. Is that the end of the world? No, not if we can keep winning with Crokes. That suits me okay. "I definitely wouldn't say no if Kerry did come calling but at the moment I'm happy with Crokes and if we can keep being successful with Crokes, that'll be plenty for me."
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Post by glengael on Feb 8, 2017 17:06:56 GMT
Sad news today that Seo Spoirt is to be axed as part of a 'revamp' of TG4. This will be its last series til April apparently.
The New broom controller of programmes is set on making his mark one supposes. Tis a pity they didn't send him to Montrose....
I will really miss this programme though for its coverage of all sports not just GAA.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 8, 2017 17:35:36 GMT
Eir sports, which is the new name for setanta sports,is only available to sky customers. Anyone with virgin media can't get eir sports.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 8, 2017 17:41:19 GMT
Eir sports, which is the new name for setanta sports,is only available to sky customers. Anyone with virgin media can't get eir sports. Alos can't get it without sky sports. So I'd have to pay for Sky, Sky sports and for Eir. Since neither Eir or Sky provide broadband around here it means paying 4 different bills coming up to €150 a month.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 9, 2017 16:11:20 GMT
It seems that if your broadband is provided by eircom, you will be able to get eir sports for free
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 9, 2017 16:30:23 GMT
Our only options here are Vodafone or Imagine broadband and Vodafone gave us 3-7 Mbps. Too slow for anything. So our only option is Imagine. Eir have no available slots for broadband around here and don't offer it to anymore houses. They do offer eir sports, but only in combination with Sky and Sky sports. Rural west Limerick by the way, but I expect the same is true for rural Kerry.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 11, 2017 21:09:52 GMT
I was talking to Martin O'Doherty's brother.
He said Billy called that ball in '74 and it wasn't poor Martin's fault.
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Post by smokey on Feb 12, 2017 15:55:33 GMT
Waterford scraped past Kilkenny in the hurling by a point, you have to commend Kilkennys never say die attitude. Whilst the talent of previous years doesn't seem to be there they still fight like warriors until the end. Righie Hogan was uncharacteristically inaccurate today (missed two good chances towards the end).
I felt the ref was very lenient to him when he shouldered a fella in the chest, he got a yellow but I thought it should have been red. It set the standard as to what was acceptable and shortly afterwards a Waterford man did a similar but worse challenge and all he got was a yellow. The Kilkenny man had to be stretchered off and he was holding multiple places of his body in agony (it was like a car crash). It really bugs me when refs let them types of challenges slide as the players just know thry can do ehat they want from then on.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Feb 17, 2017 11:23:56 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 24, 2017 8:25:23 GMT
'It's cut after cut' - Tyrone player unimpressed after being asked to make contribution to cost of sport equipment February 23 2017 8:33 PM
Morale within the Tyrone football squad is being eroded by cost-cutting measures being deployed by the County Board, according to one disgruntled player.
An email sent to Newstalk's Off the Ball programme, that has been verified by a member of the team set-up, states that each player has been asked by Tyrone chairwoman Roisin Jordan to make a £15 contribution to sports equipment. The email, sent under the subject line 'Disgusted Tyrone Senior Footballer', outlines the player's frustration at the request.
“It's becoming impossible to prepare ourselves to win an All-Ireland in a climate of cut, cut cut... When we look at the money spent on the preparation of the county teams we are nowhere near the top spenders.” The Irish Independent revealed the vast chasm between the amount of money Tyrone was spending on their inter-county sides compared to their rivals in 2016.
Tyrone spent €484,127 compared to the €1,632,448 spent by Mayo, the team that knocked them out of the All-Ireland at the quarter-final stage. Only seven counties spent less than Tyrone last year.
Earlier this month, Tyrone stalwart Sean Cavanagh voiced his jealousy at some of the perks enjoyed by others. "Like anything you'd like that wee bit more to get the best nutrition or best whatever. But the guys are equally willing that if the county's not spending it on us, the guys will spend on themselves. They don't really cause that much of a fuss about it," Cavanagh said.
"There is times that you're slightly jealous of the likes of the Dublins. We get the basics right. I suppose as a player group, we don't see probably ourselves as that high maintenance. It's like anything, I think everyone looks at Dublin and raises an eyebrow when you see them with their cars and whatever else. At times you do feel that. "But look it we're amateurs, we're football players, I think the best thing about our group is we're lads that are in it for the right reasons to try and win games. The expenses, the commercial bit, we don't get too carried away, whether it comes or not.
"We're all focused on that common goal to try and get silverware back in the county. Whatever happens outside of that is beyond our control." Tyrone were unavailable for comment this evening when contacted by Independent.ie
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Post by glengael on Feb 25, 2017 10:27:40 GMT
The Dublin dominance continues ensuring that at least one Metropolitan will have a hand on Sam Maguire until 2020. What can be done to halt the Blue Tide?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 25, 2017 17:39:01 GMT
The Dublin dominance continues ensuring that at least one Metropolitan will have a hand on Sam Maguire until 2020. What can be done to halt the Blue Tide? Tides come in; tides go out.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 25, 2017 21:20:34 GMT
The Dublin dominance continues ensuring that at least one Metropolitan will have a hand on Sam Maguire until 2020. What can be done to halt the Blue Tide? He says he is very concerned about Rural decline which is good anyway.
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Post by skybluezone on Feb 25, 2017 22:09:10 GMT
Last Dublin president was in 1958. On a personal level was happy for him as he taught me in school. Which wasn't today or yesterday! Is Cluxtons boss as well i believe. Would be nice to see him hand Sam to Stephen this year! Has already done so with the Bob O'Keeffe cup...
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Post by glengael on Feb 26, 2017 11:03:32 GMT
Marty M advised us that the last Dublin president in the 50's was in fact from East Clare. Is this man a bona fide Dub or a blow in!!!!! His intetest in rural decline might indicate some knowledge if life beyond the Bo Dearg.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 26, 2017 11:22:57 GMT
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Post by glengael on Mar 2, 2017 18:50:44 GMT
Interesting to see that 'alternative facts' aren't just confined to the US. Our 2 main local newspapers each reported a different result to the Mens' Senior Final at Comortas Paidi O'Se. One has Gaeltacht winning it, the other Newbridge Sarsfields.......
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 6, 2017 17:52:05 GMT
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 9, 2017 15:48:34 GMT
Interesting comments this week by German soccer player Thomas Müller for the German GQ magazine on modern soccer. Basically he is not so impressed with the professionalism in soccer and the demands on player. Salaries have risen to astronomical proportions, no player is ever worth a salary of €50.000 a week, and soccer is now all about power and money. Soccer players are the assets of companies now and can be traded as such. There is no club feeling anymore and no loyalty. Meanwhile more and more is demanded from soccer players and every aspect of their life is being controlled. There is even talk of cameras in the dressing rooms and he says he will retire if that happens. Given the amateur status of the GAA, but professionalism creeping into the sport, is now not the time to assess how far we take professionalism in GAA? Sean Cavanagh eludes to it in his latest interview and an earlier article. The main problem with these demands being player burn out and the widening gap between the counties. No way can Leitrim or even Limerick ever afford the huge budgets other counties have.
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Post by glengael on Mar 12, 2017 12:29:55 GMT
Can't find a Nat Hurling League thread so I'll put this here. KK v Tipp seems to have been some game last night. What chanel was it on?
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 12, 2017 13:44:02 GMT
Can't find a Nat Hurling League thread so I'll put this here. KK v Tipp seems to have been some game last night. What chanel was it on?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 13, 2017 7:28:01 GMT
Can't find a Nat Hurling League thread so I'll put this here. KK v Tipp seems to have been some game last night. What chanel was it on? That youtube has been removed, it's on Eir Sport 1 tonight I think.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 13, 2017 11:45:42 GMT
That youtube has been removed, it's on Eir Sport 1 tonight I think.
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