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Post by thesquareball on Feb 19, 2017 17:19:32 GMT
kerry hurling players doing their best,but they cannot win either of the competitions entered,so its a tough place to be because with limited playing resources yo u will never make the step up.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Feb 19, 2017 17:42:16 GMT
I'm not so sure. There is definite improvement in Kerry hurling and for a county with such few hurling clubs and limited resources they do well. Quite a good score again v Limerick today despite given no chance on forehand. Good win against Laois and once they can beat Offaly they should be in a good place. Two even tougher games to come v Galway and Wexford as well, but the lads are improving. Plenty of young hurlers coming up as well and in other parts of the county people seem to renew their interest in hurling as well. What irks me the most if having a new manager every year and this makes it hard for players to develop consistency. The hurlers are in more competitions now and play more games. 10, 15 years ago Kerry wouldn't even have dreamed of beating Laois and/or Offaly. Let alone being well ahead of Antrim, Westmeath and Carlow. That's a huge improvement already. In today's game Kerry again stayed with Limerick for a good while until the difference started to tell. Kerry are getting goals against the big teams which is promising and they get some excellent scores. If the hurlers could hold on to a manager for a few years and get more resources they might at some point get the scalp of one of the teams like Limerick.
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 20, 2017 9:03:47 GMT
Someone said during the week that Kerry is unique in that its county hurling side all are drawn from rural clubs Mike Milner from Crokes is still there as far as i know. But as I've said countless times we'll just stand still if players for South Kerry are at least not looked at. Stacks have a few young lads from Parnells with them now and have played with the minors so the players are there. Out of the 6 or so clubs from South Kerry at the very least they have to have 1 player each who could be looked at
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Post by thesquareball on Feb 20, 2017 15:12:19 GMT
from memory kerry have beaten clare twice in the league also dublin in the league, 7 or 8 years ago crokes and dingle were the best under 14 teams in the county but as fellows got older football took precedence and that will always happen so your player base never expands outside the north kerry clubs
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 20, 2017 19:55:49 GMT
from memory kerry have beaten clare twice in the league also dublin in the league, 7 or 8 years ago crokes and dingle were the best under 14 teams in the county but as fellows got older football took precedence and that will always happen so your player base never expands outside the north kerry clubs For a few years Crokes had 2/3 lads on the minors every year, this would have been only 3/4 years ago, but none of them seemed to push on and i dont think any of them are playing senior football. O' Keeffe who played in the 2011 Christy Ring final what happened to him? There was also an Eoin Kelly from Daugh on the panel around that time. Andrew Foley from Stacks is a player i think would be worth a look on the panel at least, played minor and U21 from what i remember.
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 5, 2017 11:01:23 GMT
Another tough game today i'd say. Hopefully they can put in a bit of a performance
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 11, 2017 11:36:01 GMT
Joe Canning starting full forward tomorrow for Galway. Great chance to see one of the modern greats of the game play in person
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Post by neilesflynn on Mar 11, 2017 14:02:47 GMT
hopefully more then 550 people show up to this game!! Any parent with any interest in the GAA should bring there kids into tralee on sunday to watch the game and to see Joe Canning in action!! I remember tumbing to killarney in the early 90s to watch kerry vs galway a game kerry almost won if i remember correctly it was a double header the same the with the footballers also playing. Best of luck to the hurlers on sunday!!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 11, 2017 14:53:34 GMT
I think Joe Canning has the highest number of points per game of any if the top 20 championship scorers of all time.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 11, 2017 16:23:11 GMT
Just had a flashback to kerry v galway in tralee round 1973 or 1974 and kerry goiong toe to toe with them. John connolly stood out. Galway were on the up though. Galway operate on another plane now though. Realistic contenders for the all ireland this year if tipp dont reach the heights of 2016.
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Post by neilesflynn on Mar 12, 2017 13:42:44 GMT
Allianz 1BP W D L Dif Pts Wexford 3 3 0 0 20 6 Limerick 4 3 0 1 52 6 Galway 3 2 0 1 50 4 Kerry 3 1 0 2 -33 2 Laois 4 1 0 3 -53 2 Offaly 3 0 0 3 -36 0 live table. the hurlers not looking too bad top 10 team in the country right now according to league tables. hopefully a good performance today and keep the score down. Wexford beat offaly and run ups big score hopefully, and we should be looking good heading into offaly game. might all come down to score difference to see who finishes in bottom 2.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 12, 2017 15:54:33 GMT
The commentary on Radio Kerry where most clauses end with a "there" is awful.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Apr 1, 2017 19:43:44 GMT
Kerry fighting back brilliantly to draw level at full time. Extra time now - I am not sure I will be able to listen to extra time with the Laois commentators on Kerry radio though. Come on Kerry you can do it!
Laois will be back up to 15 though. .
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Post by Tadhgeen on Apr 1, 2017 20:20:56 GMT
Laois 1-30 Kerry 4-20 after extra time
Gutted for the lads. Great effort and some game I'd day for the neutral.
Surely this game should have been played at a neutral venue?
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 1, 2017 22:11:16 GMT
Laois 1-30 Kerry 4-20 (after extra-time)
The Laois hurlers maintained their Division 1B status after an incredible extra-time win over Kerry in O'Moore Park on Saturday night.
In a game that lasted nearly 100 minutes and contained 55 scores, just a single point separated the sides at the end of this relegation play-off.
This one was so close, it looked destined for and extra two five-minute periods of extra-time to decide a winner.
Under new GAA rules that demand a decisive result on the day, a free-taking competition will be used to separate teams after double extra-time. This thriller was the ideal candidate to be the first game to be decided in such a manner, though in the end it wasn’t required.
Laois played almost the entire first 70 minutes with 14 men following a straight red card to Neil Foyle in the second minute for his involvement in an off-the-ball incident.
But despite the numerical disadvantage Laois led 1-15 to 2-6 at the break, the goal coming after a long-range Cha Dwyer free went all the way to the net.
Kerry kept in touch with goals from Patrick Kelly and Jordan Conway and with wind advantage in the second half they chipped away at the lead.
The excellent Ross King kept Laois noses in front but a goal from a Padraig Boyle free reduced the gap again.
Laois looked to have done enough with points from Patrick Whelan and a free from keeper Enda Rowland but the O’Moore County net-minder fumbled a shot in the last action of normal time and a dramatic ending ensured extra-time was needed, it finishing Laois 1-23 Kerry 4-14.
Laois, restored to the full 15 for extra-time, were 1-28 to 4-16 ahead at the break in the additional periods and although Kerry drew level again Aidan Corby got Laois ahead again.
Shane Nolan score 0-04 for Kerry Kerry can feel a little hard-done-by, having already beaten Laois in their regular-season meeting back in February. Right up to last weekend they had an eye on the Division 1 quarter-finals, but a narrow defeat to Kerry plunged them into this relegation play-off.
Laois: E Rowland (0-01, f); L Cleere, L Bergin (0-01), C Healy; L O'Connell (0-01), C Dwyer (1-01, 1f), R Mullaney (0-01); R King (0-12, 7f), P Purcell (0-04); C Taylor, J Lennon, B Conroy; W Dunphy (0-03, 1sl), N Foyle, S Maher (0-03). Subs: C Collier (0-01) for O’Connell (42), A Dunphy for Conroy (57), P Whelan (0-1) for Lennon (63), S Downey for Mullaney (67), S Bergin for Maher (71), A Corby (0-01) for Cleere (72), J Lennon (extra-time), Eanna Lyons for W Dunphy (76), J Kelly for King (93).
Kerry: M Stackpoole; J O'Connor, T Murnane, S Weir; D Collins (0-01), B Murphy, D Dinneen; P O'Connor, J Goulding (0-01); M O'Leary, P Kelly (1-04), S Nolan (0-04, 3f); J Buckley (0-01), J Conway (1-00), P Boyle (1-03,1-01 f). Subs: M Boyle (1-00) for Goulding (41), C Harty (0-05) for M O'Leary (45), K Carmody (0-01) for Nolan (53), M O’Connor for Conway (56), P Lucid for O’Connor (86).
Referee: P Dwyer (Carlow)
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 1, 2017 22:18:36 GMT
Kerry v Laois today:
M Stackpoole;
J O'Connor, T Murnane, S Weir; D Collins (0-01), B Murphy, D Dinneen;
P O'Connor, J Goulding (0-01);
M O'Leary, P Kelly (1-04), S Nolan (0-04, 3f);
J Buckley (0-01), J Conway (1-00), P Boyle (1-03,1-01 f).
Subs: M Boyle (1-00) for Goulding (41), C Harty (0-05) for M O'Leary (45), K Carmody (0-01) for Nolan (53), M O’Connor for Conway (56), P Lucid for O’Connor (86).
Kerry v Offaly in round robin last year
1. Aidan McCabe Kilmoyley
2. Jason Diggins Causeway
3. Patrick Kelly Clarecastle
4. Bryan Murphy Causeway
5. Daniel Collins(C) Kilmoyley
6. Tom Murnane Kilmoyley
7. Keith Carmody Causeway
8. Darren Dineen St Brendans
9. John Griffin Lixnaw
10. Jack Goulding Ballyduff
11. Shane Nolan Crotta O’Neills
12. Jordan Conway Crotta O'Neills
13. John Egan St Brendans
14. Brandon Barrett Causeway
15. Philip Lucid Ballyheigue
Fir Ionaid:
16 Martin Stackpoole Lixnaw
17. Brendan Brosnan Lixnaw
18. John Buckley Lixnaw
19. Jordan Brick Kilmoyley
20. Tommy Casey Causeway
21. Paudie O’Connor Kilmoyley
22. Dougie Fitzelle Kilmoyley
23. Rory Horgan St Brendans
24. James O’Connor Abbeydorney
25. Michael O’Leary Abbeydorney
26. Brendan O’Leary Abbeydorney
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 1, 2017 22:20:00 GMT
I think Kerry are not as strong in 2017. Retirements etc taking a toal
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 2, 2017 9:57:34 GMT
Hard luck to the hurlers, sickened by the biased commentary on the radio, why could Radio Kerry not send up Mike O Halloran or anyone to a game that was so important to our county?
On another note the small panel we have to work with has been shown up a lot this year. If even 1/2 of the main players are missing there's no one to replace them.
Two years in a row now that Laois have finished bottom and they still dont go down
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 15:33:17 GMT
The whole hurling structures are farcical. Kerry a point away from a qf against tipp but end up relegated playing AWAY to a team they already beat. Year after year the hurlers seem to get sucker punched by they structures. Its a joke. No support for the weaker counties trying to make strides.
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Post by Aodhan on Apr 2, 2017 16:25:22 GMT
Hard luck to the hurlers, sickened by the biased commentary on the radio, why could Radio Kerry not send up Mike O Halloran or anyone to a game that was so important to our county?On another note the small panel we have to work with has been shown up a lot this year. If even 1/2 of the main players are missing there's no one to replace them. Two years in a row now that Laois have finished bottom and they still dont go down Mike was at Thomond Park
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 3, 2017 13:24:49 GMT
Divizion two sides wexford limerick and galway took out kk, cork and waterford yestetday. Huge gulf between top 9 and kerry, laois, offalg, antrim and westmeath. Hardly any point in having mismatches
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 5, 2017 8:12:15 GMT
Divizion two sides wexford limerick and galway took out kk, cork and waterford yestetday. Huge gulf between top 9 and kerry, laois, offalg, antrim and westmeath. Hardly any point in having mismatches True but what will Kerry learn by having the same mismatches with some of the Div 2 teams?
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Post by homerj on Apr 5, 2017 8:47:52 GMT
The whole hurling structures are farcical. Kerry a point away from a qf against tipp but end up relegated playing AWAY to a team they already beat. Year after year the hurlers seem to get sucker punched by they structures. Its a joke. No support for the weaker counties trying to make strides. this is it exactly. and its kerry suffering every year from it.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 5, 2017 16:53:09 GMT
Nothing really between laois, offaly and kerry. Thats an improvement on a few years ago. But kerry cant afford to lose anyone. Darragh oconnell is a big loss but Dublin and cualas gain..John Egan would probably have made the difference v laois but he retired. Brandon Barrett is one of kerrys best young hurlers but his involvement with u21s ruled him out too.
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 5, 2017 21:30:08 GMT
Nothing really between laois, offaly and kerry. Thats an improvement on a few years ago. But kerry cant afford to lose anyone. Darragh oconnell is a big loss but Dublin and cualas gain..John Egan would probably have made the difference v laois but he retired. Brandon Barrett is one of kerrys best young hurlers but his involvement with u21s ruled him out too. This is the problem. I'll say it again, players from outside north kerry are going to ahve to be looked at. Even if it only brings one player who can make an impact it would be worth it. From 50 mins onwards is where we're being killed
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Post by neilesflynn on Apr 7, 2017 4:20:24 GMT
Hurlingman there is know one in kerry outside north kerry that would make a impact! and thats a reality!! a sad reality for a county the size of kerry. But I do agree with you that there are hurlers, 3 in particular from North Kerry that should and would make an immediate impact if selected to play for there county, one is in Clare a forward, one is in Dublin a midfielder but playing for the dubs which rules him out, and one played full back for IT Carlow in the fitzgibbon cup final this year! And also I must agree with mickmack John Egan was a massive loss, we would probably be still in Div 1 if he was around last week. In my own view John Egans loss to the hurlers this year, has a bigger affect on the hurlers out come this year, then the effect the Gooch packing it in for the footballers will have on there outcome, come the end of the season.
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Post by mossie on Apr 17, 2017 22:03:11 GMT
relegation is a massive blow after all the good work of recent seasons
Tough on the players as they went down in a classic encounter
injuries, lack of strength in depth caught them in the end. John Egan retirement also a huge loss
Kerry need to strengthen their panel for the championship campaign.
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Post by mossie on Apr 17, 2017 22:06:24 GMT
Hurlingman there is know one in kerry outside north kerry that would make a impact! and thats a reality!! a sad reality for a county the size of kerry. But I do agree with you that there are hurlers, 3 in particular from North Kerry that should and would make an immediate impact if selected to play for there county, one is in Clare a forward, one is in Dublin a midfielder but playing for the dubs which rules him out, and one played full back for IT Carlow in the fitzgibbon cup final this year! And also I must agree with mickmack John Egan was a massive loss, we would probably be still in Div 1 if he was around last week. In my own view John Egans loss to the hurlers this year, has a bigger affect on the hurlers out come this year, then the effect the Gooch packing it in for the footballers will have on there outcome, come the end of the season. I agree with all of that except the bit about South Kerry. There is hurling talent down in Kenmare and Kilgarvan that should be in and around the panel. I don't know if they have been asked. Perhaps they were and couldn't commit. Football is at its strongest in a long time in the distict with the district team and club teams doing well, doesn't leave much time for hurling.
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Post by hurlingman on Apr 18, 2017 7:32:50 GMT
Hurlingman there is know one in kerry outside north kerry that would make a impact! and thats a reality!! a sad reality for a county the size of kerry. But I do agree with you that there are hurlers, 3 in particular from North Kerry that should and would make an immediate impact if selected to play for there county, one is in Clare a forward, one is in Dublin a midfielder but playing for the dubs which rules him out, and one played full back for IT Carlow in the fitzgibbon cup final this year! And also I must agree with mickmack John Egan was a massive loss, we would probably be still in Div 1 if he was around last week. In my own view John Egans loss to the hurlers this year, has a bigger affect on the hurlers out come this year, then the effect the Gooch packing it in for the footballers will have on there outcome, come the end of the season. I agree with all of that except the bit about South Kerry. There is hurling talent down in Kenmare and Kilgarvan that should be in and around the panel. I don't know if they have been asked. Perhaps they were and couldn't commit. Football is at its strongest in a long time in the distict with the district team and club teams doing well, doesn't leave much time for hurling. I might be wrong but i find it hard to believe fellas from South Kerry were even asked. Would any of the mangers from the last few years even know there was hurlers in SOuth Kerry? This year there are 4 clubs from South Kerry playing Intermediate so could be time to have a look at them. Much like in football people will say they are good enough etc but how do we know they aren't if they dont actually get a chance? With Kenmare gone from the district team this year they wont be anywhere near as good as they were in 2016, meaning hurling might get a better look in this season.
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Post by hupskip on Apr 18, 2017 9:38:29 GMT
Hurlingman there is know one in kerry outside north kerry that would make a impact! and thats a reality!! a sad reality for a county the size of kerry. But I do agree with you that there are hurlers, 3 in particular from North Kerry that should and would make an immediate impact if selected to play for there county, one is in Clare a forward, one is in Dublin a midfielder but playing for the dubs which rules him out, and one played full back for IT Carlow in the fitzgibbon cup final this year! And also I must agree with mickmack John Egan was a massive loss, we would probably be still in Div 1 if he was around last week. In my own view John Egans loss to the hurlers this year, has a bigger affect on the hurlers out come this year, then the effect the Gooch packing it in for the footballers will have on there outcome, come the end of the season. I agree with all of that except the bit about South Kerry. There is hurling talent down in Kenmare and Kilgarvan that should be in and around the panel. I don't know if they have been asked. Perhaps they were and couldn't commit. Football is at its strongest in a long time in the distict with the district team and club teams doing well, doesn't leave much time for hurling. What players in particular from South Kerry should be on the hurling panel?
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