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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 11:43:28 GMT
You could talk about it for hours. Kerrygold makes a good point. It's hard to know how the GAA can stop them. I think it's still a big deal for young fella in Kerry to play Kerry minor that's still a big deal to a young fella. Times have changed now though after that players leave for work they leave to travel they leave for school. Lots of reasons. The lure of playing Senior for your County for 10 or 12 years is not there anymore. It doesn't have the appeal it once had. It's hard to put a finger on one thing there are different reasons for it. I think we just have to deal with the fact that we will be losing good players every year now . We will probably lose David Clifford also. I don't think it's all doom and gloom though. Mark O'Connor David Clifford are fantastic players. I saw class in David Clifford when he was 14 years old. If he decides to go he will go and that's it. On the plus side I think if we can still get 3 or 4 players every year from every minor team then we will be ok. We just have to accept we will lose players and that's it.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 22, 2016 11:50:40 GMT
I doubt Kerry will consistently compete with or beat the Dubs under the scenario you paint. Dubs having population and financial resources unrivalled elsewhere in the county.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 22, 2016 12:30:52 GMT
I think twas Kieran Shannon that wrote after the 2016 final replay that the days of counties winning all Ireland's with half their players working long distances from their home county will be few and far between in the future.
The sound jobs in the guards, the bank and teaching are not that attractive now for lots of reasons..mainly the salary ain't good enough as the main salary in a home
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 14:37:33 GMT
Yes that's true but they won't all leave. I think we will struggle to win all irelands with regularity of past times but we just have to accept it. Dublin will always be up there but eventually the pendulum will swing again. It always does no matter what happens. It goes in phases. It wouldn't surprise me if Dublin won another one or two but they will lose eventually. Just the way it goes. I think Kerry will still be a top three or four team for the next few years at least. We have a lot of young talent coming up and some will stay around.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 22, 2016 21:10:09 GMT
Yes that's true but they won't all leave. I think we will struggle to win all irelands with regularity of past times but we just have to accept it. Dublin will always be up there but eventually the pendulum will swing again. It always does no matter what happens. It goes in phases. It wouldn't surprise me if Dublin won another one or two but they will lose eventually. Just the way it goes. I think Kerry will still be a top three or four team for the next few years at least. We have a lot of young talent coming up and some will stay around. Whatever floats your boat. Cant see myself expending the same time, financial costs and emotional connection supporting the Kerry team if the best young players coming through are not playing for Kerry. I'm not interested in being a top 3 or 4 four that consistently comes up short in Croke Park. If our game isn't fit for purpose to win the hearts and minds of our best young players coming through and we can't change that then I'll close the door behind me. I see Kennelly's poaching as a very real threat to the future of the Kerry team.
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Post by baurtregaum on Dec 22, 2016 22:57:29 GMT
I think twas Kieran Shannon that wrote after the 2016 final replay that the days of counties winning all Ireland's with half their players working long distances from their home county will be few and far between in the future. The sound jobs in the guards, the bank and teaching are not that attractive now for lots of reasons..mainly the salary ain't good enough as the main salary in a home [br It was indeed. The big point being that a lot of Mayo players were based outside Mayo and the amount of travel to get to training 3+ times per week was huge. Leave work at 4 or earlier to beat the traffic to be in Mayo on time and often don't get back to Dublin until after 11pm that night. A lot of their back team are based outside the county too. I know this is not the thread for this maybe but there are a lot of factors at play, not just Kennelly. There is very little in South Kerry,for example. Cahersiveen used to have a few factories but it is in decline. There are other threads on this and Ballythefireside has gone into it, but the bigger picture for me is that Kerry is losing a lot of its younger population to immigration and the job opportunities are not there. I hate to say it but if I was 19 and getting a course in Dublin and knowing that I would probably end up working there after I might question the commitment to a county 4 hours drive away. An offer to move to Oz and be a pro footballer would at least be worth thinking about. A lack of opportunity in some more rural counties is tipping the scale and I don't know if it will balance out again going forward.
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Post by northkerry5 on Dec 25, 2016 16:51:58 GMT
Nacrocaigh backing all Killarney once again... no need to be so bias... yes the sem are a strong outfit but no where near as good as the previous year.. I wouldn't be putting money on them just yet. Chriost Ri from cork would give them a run for there money. killogran beating the the green Typical Killarney people again
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Post by purekev28 on Dec 25, 2016 16:55:55 GMT
Nacrocaigh backing all Killarney once again... no need to be so bias... yes the sem are a strong outfit but no where near as good as the previous year.. I wouldn't be putting money on them just yet. Chriost Ri from cork would give them a run for there money. killogran beating the the green Typical Killarney people again Agree with you there. The green looking very strong whenever I've seen them especially there latest performance against a county minor filled Ballincollig side.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2016 12:55:14 GMT
Nacrocaigh backing all Killarney once again... no need to be so bias... yes the sem are a strong outfit but no where near as good as the previous year.. I wouldn't be putting money on them just yet. Chriost Ri from cork would give them a run for there money. killogran beating the the green Typical Killarney people again Agree with you there. The green looking very strong whenever I've seen them especially there latest performance against a county minor filled Ballincollig side. Don't you have to milk cows or watch a hurling match somewhere
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 27, 2016 0:34:45 GMT
Do people who milk cows and watch hurling matches not have valid opinions on football. These are the people that set up Kerry co op which evolved into Kerry group and Kerry football has done well from that.
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Post by breakingbadball on Dec 28, 2016 18:19:11 GMT
Some very talented young footballers on show today in John Mitchells with the Kerry U17's & Minors in action. The Minors (excluding the Dingle lads) took on St Brendan's in an even enough game in preparation for the Sem's Corn ui Mhuiri quarter final.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 19:58:26 GMT
Who was in there could you name a few anyine stand out
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Post by breakingbadball on Dec 29, 2016 0:42:29 GMT
For the Sem - their keeper Robert Osborne (Legion) pulled off a few vital saves and his kickouts were good, it was interesting to see the 'mark' being used, personally am not convinced by it yet but we'll see! In defence Chris O'Donoghue (Glenflesk) had the unenviable task of marking David Clifford and he did a good enough job, Jack Griffen (Crokes) was full of running and did well as an attacking wingback, Sean O'Leary (Kilcummin) is one tough defender. Niall O'Donoghue (Firies) & Cian Gammell (Legion) did a very good job in the middle while David Shaw (Crokes) up front caused a lot of problems as did Dara Moynihan (Spa). The Sem in general moved the ball well. Billy Courtney (Crokes) was missing today, still out injured.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 13:14:27 GMT
Thanks. Who played well for the U17s
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Post by breakingbadball on Dec 29, 2016 19:43:29 GMT
One of the most impressive performances on the day I thought was from Donal 'Downs' O'Sullivan (Kilgarvan), although a natural under 17 he lined out for the Minors.
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Post by fg on Dec 29, 2016 21:19:44 GMT
Nacrocaigh backing all Killarney once again... no need to be so bias... yes the sem are a strong outfit but no where near as good as the previous year.. I wouldn't be putting money on them just yet. Chriost Ri from cork would give them a run for there money. killogran beating the the green Typical Killarney people again Did you have some sort of miserable Christmas to be posting that infantile diatribe on Christmas day and what do you mean typical Killarney people again, get over yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 19:10:46 GMT
fg he has no clue what he's talking about. The Sem are good this year and if they had Clifford might even be better than last year. There's a good chance 5 of them will start for the Kerry minors in the backs. Kerrys trouble spots are goalkeeper and midfield. That's my worry but they have good backs and really good forwards to pick from. The backs almost pick themselves. Cian O'Callaghan Chris O'Donoghue and Cian Gammell will be the full back line. Pa Warren Luka Brosnan and Dylan Casey will be subs. Ryan O'Neill Mike Potts and Niall O'Donoghue will be the half back line. Sean O'Leary Gearoid Fennessy Pa Carey Brian O'Connor and David Shanahan will be fighting to make the panel. Eddie Horan will be one Midfielder Sean O'Connell Dara Casey Eoin O'Sullivan Joe O'Connor will get a look in Trial Games. David Clifford Brian Friel Diarmuid O'Connor Sean Horan are certs for me. Fiachra Clifford Donal O'Sullivan Daire Cleary Dara Devine Barry O'Mahony Shay Walsh Donnacha O'Sullivan Jack Griffin Eoin Greaney Ciaran Kennedy Aaron McCarthy Deividas Usosis makes it really hard to make the panel. Nelu Doherty Robbie Murphy Brian O' Regan Robert Osborne are 4 keeper to look at. They have a great chance of going a the way again.
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Post by northkerry5 on Jan 5, 2017 23:46:22 GMT
Sem beat tipp minors in a challange match. We're tipp minors poor or are sem a talented side ?
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Post by purekev28 on Jan 6, 2017 13:27:15 GMT
Eddie Horan will be one Midfielder Sean O'Connell Dara Casey Eoin O'Sullivan Joe O'Connor will get a look in Trial Games. David Clifford Brian Friel Diarmuid O'Connor Sean Horan are certs for me. Fiachra Clifford Donal O'Sullivan Daire Cleary Dara Devine Barry O'Mahony Shay Walsh Donnacha O'Sullivan Jack Griffin Eoin Greaney Ciaran Kennedy Aaron McCarthy Deividas Usosis makes it really hard to make the panel. As for midfield, I hear there looking at a combination of Barry O Mahony (who for me is a dead cert to start) and Diarmuid O Connor who can use his good fielding skills, height and stamina to great effect as a midfielder. Eoin Greaney is not in with the minors at the moment but that may change and could depend on The Green's future success or failure in the Corn Ui Mhuiri.
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 16, 2017 12:54:02 GMT
4 quarter finals down for decision this Wednesday with five Kerry sides involved. Two All Kerry fixtures guarantee two semi-finalists and Mounthawk against St Flannans could yield a third. St Brendan's vs PS Chorcha Dhuibhne CBS The Green vs ISK Killorglin St flannans vs Mercy Mounthawk Col Chriost Ri vs St Francis Rochestown
St Brendans against PSCD is a juicy one with only 1 point separating them the last time they met - St B's may be slight favourites but a PS win is a very real prospect particularly with St B's down two Kerry minors. ISK are probably fancied against Tralee and Mounthawk are probably underdogs against Flannans.
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Post by lad on Jan 17, 2017 8:58:23 GMT
I'd fancy the Green and the Sem in the 2 all Kerry ties. Mounthawk up against it but produced 2 good displays in the group so let's hope they do the same again and you'd never know. Chriost Ri should be too strong for Rochestown
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Post by lad on Jan 18, 2017 15:10:14 GMT
1/4 final results The Sem 2-18 PCD 0-9 (The Sem without David Shaw, don't know if Billy Courtney or Cian Gammell played) The Green 2-10 ISK 1-10 (The Green come from behind to record a good win) Flannan's 4-9 Mounthawk 2-12 (4 first half goals conceded by Mounthawk prove too much) CCR 0-8 Rochestown 0-6
The Green vs CCR The Sem vs Flannans (Repeat of last year's semi final)
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Post by givehimaball on Jan 18, 2017 15:30:43 GMT
Results
Col Chriost Rí 0-8 St Francis College Rochestown 0-6
Tralee CBS 2-10 IS Killorglin 1-10
St Flannan’s 4-9 Mercy Mounthawk 2-12
St Brendans 2-18 PS Chorcha Dhuibhne 0-9
The Sem Dingle game was 0-9 to 0-8 at half-time so sounds like a serious 2nd half performance there from the Sem. Looks like the Green ISK was a close enough affair. Mounthawk conceded 4 goals early on which is a huge handicap to overcome. Cork affair fairly low-scoring but Chriost Ri prevail.
All four group winners won today.
The semi-finals are Chriost Ri v Tralee and the Sem v Flannans on the 4th of February.
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Post by northkerry5 on Jan 18, 2017 17:36:31 GMT
Cbs the green very lucky to get over the line today against a strong kilorgan side. However saying that the green showed real character to come back when it looked dead and buried. Would fancy them against Chriost Roi in the semi final. Questions were going to be asked of the sem today as they were missing big stars like David shaw etc.. They must have put on some performance to prevail against a good dingle side and the sem look to be strong strong favourites to win the corn ui mhuiri again this year. It will take something very special to beat them
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Post by himself on Jan 18, 2017 18:27:53 GMT
Billy and Cian played midfield for the Sem but Peadar Pol Sauerland and Ruadhan Mac Carthaigh dominated that sector. Cian Callaghan, Dara Moynihan, and Donnchadh O Sullivan were excellent. I was a bit disappointed in some of Dingles better known players, and I definitely felt that their heads dropped early in the second half. Good team, and great to watch, by they were capable of a much better display. Outscore by 2-10 to 0-3, 2f in the second half. They had grest support. Big numbers and great atmosphere at the game.
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Post by thechosenone on Jan 18, 2017 18:42:57 GMT
David Shaw had AFL trials in Florida apparently hence he was missing for the game. I wonder is there many more lined up by Tadgh.
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Post by purekev28 on Jan 19, 2017 10:14:28 GMT
Predictions for semi finals: Sem to beat flannans convincingly. Green and Chriost Ri will be a tight affair and almost too tight to call but I'm going to go for a green win due to there strong recent run of form. There confidence will be high after coming from behind to beat a solid ISK outfit and I think they will have too much for the Cork side.
Looking forward to an all kerry final !
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Post by fossaabu on Jan 25, 2017 13:01:13 GMT
I was at the game in Milltown , the sem were never going to lose this game however they are well behind last years team if you think about who they have lost D O Brien, Lee Donoughue, D Naughton ,E Cronin and of course D Clifford, all county players, i was very impressed by cian o callaghan in the backs but would worry about the forwards only donncha o sullivan and dara moynihan could take a score, in particular the full forward line was poor only scoring 2 points, young Devlin from legion got a nice goal when he came on and Mark Hartnett looked sharp scoring the equivalent of the whole full forward line in the few minutes he was on, i believe Hartnett was carrying a knock and should start if fully fit, I think they will win Munster with ease but would worry about them after that.
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Post by givehimaball on Jan 25, 2017 16:33:11 GMT
There were some games in the Frewen today so I said I'd throw the results so far up here and the situation for the rest of the competition.
The current state of play is the following
Quarterfinal - Mercy Mounthawk v Tralee CBS
Quarterfinal - P.S Chorcha Dhuibhne v John The Baptist Community School - Hospital, Limerick
Semi Final - Mercy Mounthawk/Tralee CBS v P.S Chorcha Dhuibhne/John The Baptist Community School - Hospital, Limerick
Semi-Final - St. Flannans College Ennis v St Brendans Killarney
The schedule is a bit behind due to games being cancelled due to bad weather but the semi-finals were originally fixed for next week – I presume the Sem v Flannans game will go ahead then but the other semi-final will likely be delayed. The final is scheduled for the 1st of March so there is time in the schedule.
Overall some big wins by the Kerry sides and 4 of the last 6 left in the competition are Kerry sides. The Tralee derby should be a fun affair.
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Post by backofthenet on Jan 30, 2017 12:22:47 GMT
Bit of a joke that Munster PPS GAA still hasn't named venues for the semis considering they are on Saturday. I'm well aware that certain pitches around the region aren't in the best condition but, it is very hard on players and management alike to still be wondering where their semis will be played at this stage!
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