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Post by onlykerry on Mar 14, 2016 0:43:50 GMT
From a bad start this league campaign is turning out ok - division 1 status fairly certain and a decent shot at playoffs with two rounds to go. Some of the old timers playing well and some new blood putting their hands up. More players still to come back from injury and the panel looking stronger than in the past year.
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Post by dano on Mar 14, 2016 1:27:39 GMT
Mickmack, Where did that clip come from, sounded like Ger Canning commentary. Any chance of seeing the whole game?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 14, 2016 1:48:56 GMT
Crowley able for AO'6 and Brendan O'Sullivan scoring off both feet. Someone started a sentence on who played well for us and couldn't stop before naming about 10. Looking at that panel plus those who will come in, I think we have will have strong claims on escapee Samuel Maguire this autumn.
While many focus on the players we must also remember that our management is becoming more experienced, both individually and as a unit. I think we have an advantage here when I look at other counties and there is no silverware without top class coaching.
We will be tested physically and psychologically by Tyrone and Dublin will be there, but it is hard to see anyone else breaking us down, such is the depth and breadth of talent available. The charged atmosphere in training must be awesome and yes, a fine line between individual and team priority. KD is having some year and I just hope he can continue on that path, he shows true leadership when the going gets tough and he leads only from the front and history will be very kind to Kieran, be jazus but doesn't he empty the tank on every outing, he truly has the heart of a lion.
By the way did Buck's goal actually go right between Hennelly's legs?
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 14, 2016 8:05:46 GMT
Mickmack, Where did that clip come from, sounded like Ger Canning commentary. Any chance of seeing the whole game? Dano I dont have the whole game, just the bit shown on TV last night and that clip showed the two Kerry goals. In my opinion, Hennelly is a weak link for Mayo in goals. Remember the "tying the laces minute" v Dublin in 2015 and then the rushed kickout straight to a Dublin player and bang, Dublin have two goals in two minutes. He didnt exactly cover himself in glory for either of Kerrys goals today. Mayo had two goal chances...would have got a peno if AOS went down and Kealy saved the second chace with his face. The sooner Mayo get Bourke back the better for them. |
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 14, 2016 8:59:27 GMT
Alz P W D L Dif Pts
Dub 5 5 0 0 21 10
Ros 5 4 0 1 29 8
Don 5 3 0 2 19 6
Ker 5 3 0 2 19 6
Mon 5 2 0 3 -4 4
Cor 5 2 0 3 -16 4
May 5 1 0 4 -16 2
Dow 5 0 0 5 -52 0
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 14, 2016 9:13:47 GMT
They didn't show the first one but Donaghy's second yellow looked awfully harsh. AOS might have had a penalty; on the other hand it was arguably a free out for charging in the first place. Could have done with a long-range lens on that main camera. Great win. It has come to the point where a tall player cannot tackle a short player without getting a yellow card. Donaghy is a constant victim of this. When the championship starts I can see teams like Donegal and Tyrone having players like McHugh run straight at players like Donaghy to invite the tackle. They will have perfected the dramatic collapse in case the referee is in any doubt. |
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 14, 2016 9:26:09 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 14, 2016 9:31:05 GMT
They didn't show the first one but Donaghy's second yellow looked awfully harsh. AOS might have had a penalty; on the other hand it was arguably a free out for charging in the first place. Could have done with a long-range lens on that main camera. Great win. It has come to the point where a tall player cannot tackle a short player without getting a yellow card. Donaghy is a constant victim of this. When the championship starts I can see teams like Donegal and Tyrone having players like McHugh run straight at players like Donaghy to invite the tackle. They will have perfected the dramatic collapse in case the referee is in any doubt. With no defined tackle in the game the black/yellow card situation has become 50 shades of grey. The merest of contact between a forward and defender results in the concession of handy frees and scoring opportunities. |
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Mar 14, 2016 9:38:09 GMT
Kerry players seem to have a new level of fitness so far this year, they look leaner, more pace to put alongside the power. Obviously last year there was a recovery period from the efforts and excesses of 2014. The likes of KD & O'Mahony look to have a new lease of life. I thought the Gooch was back on form yesterday. As I said last summer, Crowley's a rock. He's now becoming a rock that is rolling faster and more directed. Brendan O'Sullivan is going to be a treat to watch. JOD to come back, that's going to be a serious, and very hungry forward unit. Massive pressure on Mayo now to produce results after the heave-ho. If not, they go into summer needing to make the semi-finals minimum to justify the change (assuming they avoid one of the top two teams in Qtr finals). I actually think Rochford needs two years to build his own template but I also feel he needed a good league to take some pressure and potential damaging disharmony out of it. Mickmack, Donaghy at midfield, it'll never happen................  |
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Post by bairyhalls on Mar 14, 2016 9:55:36 GMT
Thanks to those who provided match reports here cos God help us if you are to rely on the national papers.
Out of the country and scanning the papers for a match report.... pointless! You get a description of the weather, the pitch and finally a few general comments on the game. And then how about this for a headline in the Indo
"Kerry score first league win over 14-man Mayo since 2011 to edge closer to survival
Kerry 2-14 Mayo 0-14"
Score is wrong and it implies that the Mayo sending off changed the game...
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Post by homerj on Mar 14, 2016 11:06:39 GMT
very poor follow up on here to yesterday! great win, if we lost there would be 50 posts  |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 14, 2016 11:22:20 GMT
Win or lose, tis only the league.
Although the extra games of a SF are not to be sniffed at: reduce the, is it, three month break, by a couple of weeks.
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Post by mayo4sam on Mar 14, 2016 11:30:47 GMT
Congrats on your win yesterday, well deserved. I feel our 12 wides really showed up where the cracks are, plus David Moran wasnt playing for ye yesterday. I thought the gooch was very economical with the ball as was the kerry forward line. Mayo huffed and puffed when they got to the half forward line, as opposed to kerry who played chest high balls into oncoming forwards who turned and pinged them over. Thought Darren O Sullivan played well for Kerry.
However I think the persistent fouling of big tall players (Aidan O Shea, Donaghy, Murphy) needs to be looked at by the GAA. Take yesterday for example Peter Crowleys black card issued but no penalty. Donaghys pull in the square no penalty, i know o shea scored a point, but a penalty should have been the outcome. Also persistant fouling, Darren o Sullivan ran across and tripped 3 mayo attacks, again made no effort to play the ball, played the man and no card. There is no consistency with refereeing decisions and they change their mind.
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Post by animal on Mar 14, 2016 11:53:07 GMT
Thanks to all who made the trip and reported back. I was sore to miss this one. Mayo away is a trip I usually try and make. Wesport is a great spot for a night or two away and only ten minutes from Castlebar.
I think someone else mentioned it already but the coverage by RTE was very poor last night. You could hardly make out what was happening on the pitch. You'd manage better with your phone. Also they omitted several good Kerry scores and pieces of excellent play by Gooch which they only showed during the analysis. If the score / passage of play was so good why not include it in the match highlights? Mind boggles.
Anyway it would seem we are motoring well. We should take care not to get too excited at this time of year as our neighbours Lee-side know only too well. Having said that you can take lots of positives.
Darren is moving very well.
Mark Griffin was very good against Donegal and seems to have done well yesterday again. Did he stay in the full back position or was he further out like last week?
Brendan O'Sullivan is the find of the campaign so far. a real bolter. I just hope he can follow up on early promise.
You have to admire Marc and Aidan. For lads who are no spring chickens their fitness and condition are a credit to them.
I would echo a previous comment concerning the relative lack of scores from out starting forwards. Hopefully the return of James and Paul Geaney will alleviate this concern.
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Post by hatchetman on Mar 14, 2016 13:17:53 GMT
I have to say very impressed with Brendan O'Sullivan playing great stuff. A great man to have to bring in although i would like to see him start a game to see how he does. Anybody know what age Brendan O'Sullivan is, I can't recall him playing minor or u21? |
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Post by lár na páirce on Mar 14, 2016 13:30:58 GMT
Great to see Griffin & Darran putting their hand up for a championship jersey also Brendan Sullivan looking like he could play a big part for Kerry in the Summer.
Brendan O'Sullivan from Valentia is 26 ,He played Sigerson with CIT & has played a few years with the juniors.He is really staking a claim to be an important player for us.I hope this puts away the ridiculous claims that we should be fast tracking the minors of the last 2 years into the senior set up.
Brendan was picked on his county championship form and the same should be for all of our players.Players develop at different rates and forcing it only destroys players
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 14, 2016 13:34:50 GMT
Croke Park want to take away the window that gave Brendan O'Sullivan the chance to play county football, the Junior All-Ireland championship.......................................
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Post by lár na páirce on Mar 14, 2016 13:49:02 GMT
Croke Park want to take away the window that gave Brendan O'Sullivan the chance to play county football, the Junior All-Ireland championship....................................... Doubt it was the Junior that put Brendan in the shop window,More so his county championship performances.I personally think the intercounty junior all Ireland is a farce of a competition 6 teams from Leinster,1 from Ulster,4 from Connacht and the Munster counties.The competition should be restricted to Div 4 counties plus the overseas teams |
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Post by patinkerry on Mar 14, 2016 14:15:42 GMT
I think Brendan O Sullivan is 26. I don't recall him in minors or U21, only Junior where he was on the winning AI team. He played very well with South Kerry and with Valentia Young Islanders (Munster JBF)
Yesterday up in Castlebar, he was doing sprint runs with some of the Kerry players (mostly the subs) for 10 minutes after the game. He can move!
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 14, 2016 15:27:58 GMT
I think someone else mentioned it already but the coverage by RTE was very poor last night. You could hardly make out what was happening on the pitch. You'd manage better with your phone. Also they omitted several good Kerry scores and pieces of excellent play by Gooch which they only showed during the analysis. If the score / passage of play was so good why not include it in the match highlights? Mind boggles. League coverage by RTE continues to be woeful. Pretty much the definition of bare minimum. If someone was videoing a game for a club and he returned that standard of footage he wouldn't get paid it was so poor. Serious competition for places come summertime - Kerry have already used 34 players in the league and that's with a fair few lads to come back from injury who will surely be in contention - if we get to a final we might yet hit the 40 mark. |
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 14, 2016 15:32:33 GMT
Croke Park want to take away the window that gave Brendan O'Sullivan the chance to play county football, the Junior All-Ireland championship....................................... Doubt it was the Junior that put Brendan in the shop window,More so his county championship performances.I personally think the intercounty junior all Ireland is a farce of a competition 6 teams from Leinster,1 from Ulster,4 from Connacht and the Munster counties.The competition should be restricted to Div 4 counties plus the overseas teams I think it should be expanded if anything, especially with U21 gone to U20 - it's also worth remembering a serious chunk of lads who have featured with Kerry have lined out with the juniors at some stage, especially when you consider all those who would be ineligible due to the status of their club. |
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Post by patinkerry on Mar 14, 2016 16:12:41 GMT
I would agree with givehimaball, it should be expanded. It's a competitive ground for bringing on new seniors too.
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Post by Chinatown on Mar 14, 2016 17:18:20 GMT
From reports it sounds like it was a really good game. Please tell me there were cameras. Sunday game is at 7.30 tonight. 2 pts from Crowley today to add to his goal last week. He's getting fond of going forward. Another Tomás in the making? I'd go along with that comparison, no pressure  |
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Post by kerryeye on Mar 14, 2016 17:40:15 GMT
Croke Park want to take away the window that gave Brendan O'Sullivan the chance to play county football, the Junior All-Ireland championship....................................... Doubt it was the Junior that put Brendan in the shop window,More so his county championship performances.I personally think the intercounty junior all Ireland is a farce of a competition 6 teams from Leinster,1 from Ulster,4 from Connacht and the Munster counties.The competition should be restricted to Div 4 counties plus the overseas teams Im guessing you think the All Ireland hurling series is a farce aswell so given that there is no Connaught or Ulster Championship? The Junior championship is well worth keeping on,especially given the route Kerry have gone the last couple of years generally playing u23s.. |
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Post by lár na páirce on Mar 14, 2016 17:56:59 GMT
Out of the top 16 counties in the country only 6 compete at Junior level,I think it's a poor competition and clubs are under enough pressure now they should have access to their players as much as possible.
With the avenue of going to Croke Park with your club and with the divisional sides in the championship,I don't think there is any player who is "slipping through the net" in terms of getting exposure to the senior football management.
Also with the new U-20 grade moving to the summer months,I don't see where the future lies for the junior grade
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 14, 2016 18:03:24 GMT
Congrats on your win yesterday, well deserved. I feel our 12 wides really showed up where the cracks are, plus David Moran wasnt playing for ye yesterday. I thought the gooch was very economical with the ball as was the kerry forward line. Mayo huffed and puffed when they got to the half forward line, as opposed to kerry who played chest high balls into oncoming forwards who turned and pinged them over. Thought Darren O Sullivan played well for Kerry. However I think the persistent fouling of big tall players (Aidan O Shea, Donaghy, Murphy) needs to be looked at by the GAA. Take yesterday for example Peter Crowleys black card issued but no penalty. Donaghys pull in the square no penalty, i know o shea scored a point, but a penalty should have been the outcome. Also persistant fouling, Darren o Sullivan ran across and tripped 3 mayo attacks, again made no effort to play the ball, played the man and no card. There is no consistency with refereeing decisions and they change their mind. whats the mood now in Mayo.... are the supporters bemoaning the fact that McStay and co may have been let slip away. I know its early days yet but when you look at how well the Rossies are playing (allied to club All Ireland winners that McStay managed a few years ago)it would be entirely understandable feeling. Mayo are missing the Castlebar lads and a few very good U21s so we shouldbt be writing them off. |
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 14, 2016 18:08:20 GMT
Donaghy is way too careless with the big looping arm. Its inevitable that he will catch lads around the head and neck and the refs only decision is whether i is a yellow or a red for a clothesline job
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Post by lár na páirce on Mar 14, 2016 18:14:54 GMT
Donaghy is way too careless with the big looping arm. Its inevitable that he will catch lads around the head and neck and the refs only decision is whether i is a yellow or a red for a clothesline job I think its a problem for all "Big" players in the game,The difference in size is always going to cause problems but the large players just need to tackle a different way |
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Post by veteran on Mar 14, 2016 19:55:43 GMT
A question for people who were at the game. How did Paul Murphy do on the forty? I have serious misgivings about this move , not least because we have plenty of forwards whereas we are not as generously endowed with competent backs. Paul is a top of the range defender and that is where he we need him. This,experiment reminds me of the farcical move made by Jack when he played Darran as a wing back on one or two occasions.
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Post by fitz on Mar 14, 2016 20:09:14 GMT
Great to see Griffin & Darran putting their hand up for a championship jersey also Brendan Sullivan looking like he could play a big part for Kerry in the Summer. Brendan O'Sullivan from Valentia is 26 ,He played Sigerson with CIT & has played a few years with the juniors.He is really staking a claim to be an important player for us.I hope this puts away the ridiculous claims that we should be fast tracking the minors of the last 2 years into the senior set up. Brendan was picked on his county championship form and the same should be for all of our players.Players develop at different rates and forcing it only destroys players Darran will be first forward on the Championship starting line up on his league form. The most consistent Kerry player over the 5 games. Hopefully he can stay free of injury now. It's his injury free body that is the mainstay of his return to good form, allied with plenty game time. |
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