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Post by ciarrailar on Mar 20, 2016 17:29:45 GMT
The powers that be have Paul Hayes in charge of a Division 5 county league game today. There's a few lads in charge of Division 1 and 2 games, well the less said the better. Well, I guess they can't just have them covering Division 1&2 only, otherwise you'd have a small group of elite refs doing these and the younger refs would never get big game experience.
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Post by ciarrailar on Mar 20, 2016 17:31:16 GMT
Derry Ahern is a fine good ref very fair and consistent , seen a young ref doing a under 14 game n east Kerry last year think he was from cordal was very impressed by him don't know his name Think you mean Tadhg.... Derry would be happy that you called him fine though! Lol
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Post by madforfootball on Mar 20, 2016 18:04:28 GMT
Derry Ahern is a fine good ref very fair and consistent , seen a young ref doing a under 14 game n east Kerry last year think he was from cordal was very impressed by him don't know his name Think you mean Tadhg.... Derry would be happy that you called him fine though! Lol u Sorry ment Tadhg ,,,do u know the young ref from cordal
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Post by ciarrailar on Mar 20, 2016 19:58:06 GMT
Think you mean Tadhg.... Derry would be happy that you called him fine though! Lol u Sorry ment Tadhg ,,,do u know the young ref from cordal Just checked the Eolaire, Michael Cahill is the only registered senior referee from Cordal. Would that be him? Must say big difference between reffing U14 and senior though.... Hopefully he progresses through the ranks. We need fresh blood.
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Post by ciarrailar on Mar 22, 2016 9:10:40 GMT
Nice to see Brendan Griffin getting the big game at the weekend. He's one of the better refs around at the moment.
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Post by ciarrailar on Apr 18, 2016 18:07:32 GMT
Jaysus lads, we think some of our guys are bad.... What in the name of God was the ref at the Leicester v West Ham match on???
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Post by ciarrailar on May 24, 2016 22:41:24 GMT
After attending 4 championship games over the last two weekends, I'm convinced most referees don't know what a black card is for. The majority seem to bottle it and give a yellow rather than showing a guy the line. Is this done out of fear of making the big call? Or simply that they don't know what's a black from a yellow?
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Post by The16thMan on May 25, 2016 0:14:09 GMT
Going by consistency and application of the rules in my opinion David Gough of Meath is the best in the country. Although the games he's over tend to be pretty stop start and isn't afraid to give lads the line if they've over stepped the mark. We need more refs like him, refs that enforce the rules as they are,use a bit of common sense and always be in control of the game.
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Post by ciarrailar on May 25, 2016 10:55:09 GMT
Going by consistency and application of the rules in my opinion David Gough of Meath is the best in the country. Although the games he's over tend to be pretty stop start and isn't afraid to give lads the line if they've over stepped the mark. We need more refs like him, refs that enforce the rules as they are,use a bit of common sense and always be in control of the game. Gough and Coldrick would be my top two at present. Gough would be stricter but both good refs. Gough took a lot of slack for recent outing but I thought he got all the major decisions spot on. Deffo need more like these two.
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Post by veteran on May 25, 2016 14:21:27 GMT
It is interesting that some people rate David Gough and David McGoldrick as the two top referees. They are polar opposites when it comes to officiating a match. It is like saying my two favourite colours are black and white.
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Post by ciarrailar on May 25, 2016 22:50:45 GMT
It is interesting that some people rate David Gough and David McGoldrick as the two top referees. They are polar opposites when it comes to officiating a match. It is like saying my two favourite colours are black and white. Two quality refs. You can't argue with that. Who out there is better at the moment? Both have different styles of reffing but equally effective. Some days I have a mind for sweet foods, other days savoury. Both are equally satisfying when I have them.
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Post by Mickmack on May 26, 2016 19:22:33 GMT
Going by consistency and application of the rules in my opinion David Gough of Meath is the best in the country. Although the games he's over tend to be pretty stop start and isn't afraid to give lads the line if they've over stepped the mark. We need more refs like him, refs that enforce the rules as they are,use a bit of common sense and always be in control of the game. The best ref by some distance at the moment.
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Post by kerrygold on May 27, 2016 8:18:32 GMT
A defined tackle and release mechanism would make the game a lot easier for referees. The orgy of soft frees for mild contact is a blight on the game at the moment in the absence of a defined tackle.
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Post by ciarrailar on May 27, 2016 12:35:08 GMT
A defined tackle and release mechanism would make the game a lot easier for referees. The orgy of soft frees for mild contact is a blight on the game at the moment in the absence of a defined tackle. I agree to a point Kerrygold. The tackle is defined in the rule book. Open handed tackle aimed at the ball. Incidental contact is permitted in the act of tackling for the ball. The thing I see though when watching matches (and I go to a lot of them) is that players are aiming for the man more than the ball and this is where all the frees come from. I suppose it's up to the referee to determine whether the tackle was aimed at man or ball.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 27, 2016 12:45:56 GMT
Football really needs the players to play fair.
Think of sports that involve the carrying of the ball - it's either full contact or non contact.
I once thought that the tackle could be redefined but I fear that is more or less impossible...this is a line too difficult to thread and leaves the sport in a precarious position.
Something that could be done is to make a two man tackle illegal.
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Post by onlykerry on May 27, 2016 13:10:58 GMT
There are two aspects to fouls - fouls when two or more players are vying for possession (fouls generally are where one player uses his hands against the other player by pulling, pushing, holding or grapling) fouls committed by or against a player in possession of the ball.The tackle only attempts to define the latter group whereas a lot of inconsistency is about the former - just look at the treatment dished out to Star, Tommy Walsh and other big Full Forwards, the same contact in the middle third is invariably a free but rarely inside the 21.
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Post by ciarrailar on May 27, 2016 15:14:24 GMT
There are two aspects to fouls - fouls when two or more players are vying for possession (fouls generally are where one player uses his hands against the other player by pulling, pushing, holding or grapling) fouls committed by or against a player in possession of the ball.The tackle only attempts to define the latter group whereas a lot of inconsistency is about the former - just look at the treatment dished out to Star, Tommy Walsh and other big Full Forwards, the same contact in the middle third is invariably a free but rarely inside the 21. Agree completely about the attention Star, Tommy Walsh etc. get. Star's shoulder sockets get a good work out in every match. He always has a man hanging off him when high balls are delivered. Surely umpires need to pick up on this and inform referees of what's going on. I think if our umpires and linesmen played a more active part in the game then it would be the better for it. At club level it can be difficult as I know refs can often struggle to get volunteers to come along to matches as umpires because of the abuse.
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Post by kerrygold on May 27, 2016 15:29:41 GMT
A defined tackle and release mechanism would make the game a lot easier for referees. The orgy of soft frees for mild contact is a blight on the game at the moment in the absence of a defined tackle. I agree to a point Kerrygold. The tackle is defined in the rule book. Open handed tackle aimed at the ball. Incidental contact is permitted in the act of tackling for the ball. The thing I see though when watching matches (and I go to a lot of them) is that players are aiming for the man more than the ball and this is where all the frees come from. I suppose it's up to the referee to determine whether the tackle was aimed at man or ball. I find all these soft frees for soft contact to the body to be utterly frustrating to watch. It is becoming a non contact tag sport at the moment.
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Post by kerryforliam on Oct 4, 2016 14:22:54 GMT
u Sorry ment Tadhg ,,,do u know the young ref from cordal Just checked the Eolaire, Michael Cahill is the only registered senior referee from Cordal. Would that be him? Must say big difference between reffing U14 and senior though.... Hopefully he progresses through the ranks. We need fresh blood. New to this forum, enjoying reading through past threads. I believe the referee from Cordal is Mike Flynn, always very solid in any underage game i've seen him reffing.
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Post by ciarrailar on Oct 11, 2016 15:50:32 GMT
Brendan Griffin Clounmacon to ref Senior Championship final. Big step up for him but a good decision to give it to him. He is one of the best refs around and did an excellent job on the semifinal.
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