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Post by seamus on Oct 4, 2007 10:54:58 GMT
Have people any ideas on how this competition could be brought back to life?
Now that the International Rules looks like it is dead there appears to be an opportunity to resurrect it. The players have always supported it (although many see it as a beer up) and every players wants to win it once to put in on his CV.
What is the best way to get 50,000 plus people watching the final?
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Post by Jo90 on Oct 4, 2007 11:10:44 GMT
What is the best way to get 50,000 plus people watching the final? At half-time have a Mad Max style Thunderdome - 2 men enter, 1 man leaves. 1st battle: Noel O'Leary v Paul Galvin. 2nd battle: Cieran Whelan v Graham Geraghty. 3rd battle: Francie Bellew v Darragh Ó Sé. 4th battle: Ryan McManemin v a pack of Lions that haven't eaten in a week.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Oct 4, 2007 16:46:50 GMT
Hold it mid championship - I've been saying this for years.
And for those managers who are against releasing their players in case of injury, they are penalised - grants stopped from the county boards etc.
Put it this way, the All Star Baseball game is a roaring success every year, especially since home advantage in the world series was added to the winners kitty a few years back.
Look at the State of Origin in Australia, the All Star ice hockey game. All mid season games, all far more interesting.
Hold it directly after the provincial finals have been played (barring draws).
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Post by madmac999 on Oct 4, 2007 17:43:40 GMT
Allow an UnderDogs team to compete in it at least they might get a few games
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 4, 2007 20:53:22 GMT
play them mid season like stacks said and as a carrot which ever provence wins award what ever counties from that provence are still left in the championship with home all-ireland quarter finals.
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Post by sullyschoice on Oct 4, 2007 21:06:23 GMT
I would love if it got popular again. I havent been to one for years because I never know about it until it is over. It needs to be better advertised.
Hope the floodlit experiment will work this year. I will be there and will bring the family, but thats easy for me living in the smoke
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Post by falveyb2k on Oct 4, 2007 21:24:06 GMT
I don't know stacks I couldn't see Kerry and Cork players getting on with each other a week after a controversial Munster final! Plus there's enough fixtures problems at that time of the year anyway. Do it like in American football, have it a week after the All Ireland final while interest is still high for the year. The only problem as always is club games and dropouts. As always would you travel around the country to see half strength teams line out? I remember watching Munster play Leinster a few years ago in Tralee but the Gaeltacht and Nemo boys were missing which was a shame
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Post by Walter Mitty on Oct 4, 2007 21:45:31 GMT
I think the rivarly in the magners league/heineken between Munster Connaught Leinster and Ulster makes me believe that this competition can be brought back to life.
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Post by kingdomkerry on Oct 4, 2007 22:11:14 GMT
I remember the international rules was never that popular. Then the gaa did fierce advertising campaign and it was sold out.
Remember the advertising campaign that they did for dublin and tyrone in the first league game last year. Sold out croke park. Something similar could do wonders for the railway cup.
Have it the same week as the international rules was on and give incentives for each province to field their best 15
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2007 8:11:02 GMT
The issue is the clubs as county championships will be delayed because one or 2 players from a club will be unavailable. What about early in the year. There is usually a lot of interest in O'Byrne and McKenna cups at this time of year so why not the railway cup.
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Post by animal on Oct 5, 2007 8:42:42 GMT
I've posted this elsewhere. The time of year with the greatest hunger for Gaelic games is just after Xmas. Look at the inflated and unjustified figures for O'Byrne Cup games and MCKenna Cup games. Crazy stuff. Why not tap into this thirst for games at the start of the year. Have it over before the league. Much more interesting than Wicklow V Carlow on a wet cold Sunday! Hold the finals under lights like they have this year. The publicity needs to be ramped up big time. Maybe throw in a few novelties such as they had for the compromised rules games like the buzzer for time - up. Bring in schools for free and have all other tickets very cheap. Promote it as a night of celebrating our great players. When else would you get so many greats on one field. Make the players the focal point.
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Post by buck02 on Oct 5, 2007 9:10:10 GMT
I think it should be scrapped. The season is too long now with the provencial c'ship, qualifiers, club county league & championship, Provencial and all ireland club fixtures, Sigerson Cup and so on. Players just dont have the hunger for what has become a Mickey Mouse competition over the last 20 years.
Regarding Stacks notion that it should be played just after the Provencial Finals, well Stacks I hope you were after a bottle and a half of the local Ting Tang land brew when you came up with that idea cos it could never work. Never. How could you go play a Railway Cup game with an all ireland 1/4 final coming up. Also a round of the club c'ship is usually played here after the end of the Munster c'ship.
Playing it in the weeks that follow the all ireland final also wont work because of Club Championships. Also who would be bothered going up to Ulster and risk having 15 fellas knocking the sh1te out of you cos you were man of the match in the all ireland the week before?
Playing it in early January may be an option but many of the top teams head off on their team holidays in January so that would mean you would not have the pick of the top players and thats not going to entice the paying public either.
In my opinion the Club Championships have become the new Railway Cup. Times have moved on. Scrap the Railway Cup.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 5, 2007 9:30:40 GMT
harsh,but factual and a good assessment,is it a bit like holding onto a sentimental broken family heirloom just for the sake of it.
havin read bucks assesment maybe the only time it could fit in would be between the league and championship.
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Post by hatchetman on Oct 5, 2007 9:54:33 GMT
I think the rivarly in the magners league/heineken between Munster Connaught Leinster and Ulster makes me believe that this competition can be brought back to life. I'm not sure there is much rivalry in the Magners league with the provinces often putting out B teams, the heineken cup is a different story as this competition is the pinnacle of rugbys club competition. Scrap it I say.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Oct 5, 2007 14:15:59 GMT
No local brew had Buck.....but if it works for other sports, why can't it work for the GAA. To say that lads would start knocking seven shades of s**te out of each other just because they played the previous week IS seven shades of s**te. Players aren't thugs or animals. They'd enjoy the craic of playing with the best in the business in the middle of summer in front of a full Semple Stadium or wherever it would be played.
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Post by buck02 on Oct 5, 2007 14:28:24 GMT
No local brew had Buck.....but if it works for other sports, why can't it work for the GAA. To say that lads would start knocking seven shades of s**te out of each other just because they played the previous week IS seven shades of s**te. Players aren't thugs or animals. They'd enjoy the craic of playing with the best in the business in the middle of summer in front of a full Semple Stadium or wherever it would be played. Do you honestly think that Pat O Shea would let his best 10 or so players play in a Railway Cup game between the Munster Final and 1/4 final. What would you make of it if Gooch got badly injured and Mahony got a straight red and it effectively ended Kerry's season. Kerry players do enjoy the craic of playing with the best of the business in front of big crowds every summer. But they do that with Kerry. Saying it'll work cos it works in other sports doesnt cut it with me. I dont know much about other sports, but what I do know it that this WOULD NOT EVER work in the GAA.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Oct 5, 2007 14:32:37 GMT
Disciplinary measures are carried into their next club game?
Again, you force the situation with the managers, rather than nicely ask them.
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Post by kingdomkerry on Oct 5, 2007 16:43:26 GMT
January or October. Mid season would never work!
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Post by black on Oct 9, 2007 10:39:03 GMT
The hurling is uder lights in Croke Park at the end of this month have heard nothing about the football yet
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Post by islandexile on Oct 9, 2007 14:38:40 GMT
M DONNELLY INTERPROVINCIAL FINALS PAIRC AN CHROCAIGH, SAT 27-OCT-2007
FOOTBALL FINAL 5:15PM HURLING FINAL 7PM
The finals are being played as a double-header under lights at Croke Park. The tickets are only €10 which is good value. Playing under lights on a saturday night will hopefully add to the attendence.
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Post by Jo90 on Oct 9, 2007 15:35:45 GMT
Railway Cup Semi-Final this Saturday in Fermoy:
Football Munster v Leinster 1:30pm
Hurling Munster v Leinster 3:00pm
Games are on the same weekend as the Cork Senior Football semi-finals and the Cork Senior Hurling final, never mind all the games in Limerick, Cork, Clare, Waterford and Kerry.
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Post by 1479 on Oct 9, 2007 17:56:15 GMT
Anyone know the Kerry players that are on the Munster football panel for the Railway Cup
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Post by TheCritic on Oct 9, 2007 19:35:37 GMT
Got a question: Does anyone know who the top scorer in any ONE match in the railway cup is and what did he score? I heard it was a massive score for one game.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Oct 9, 2007 19:52:59 GMT
Christy Ring, 4-5 in one of his 18 Railway Cup final wins, sometime in the '50s. Or did somebody overcome that monster of a total?
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Post by milko on Oct 11, 2007 10:20:28 GMT
Limerick players are refusing to join the munster panel for this years cup, due to what they say is unfair treatment to them by the munster council seedin the championship.
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Post by wayupnorth on Oct 11, 2007 19:01:14 GMT
Limerick players are refusing to join the munster panel for this years cup, due to what they say is unfair treatment to them by the munster council seedin the championship. I can understand their point and Mickey Ned appears to be backing them. But are they not cutting off their noses to spite their faces?
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Post by juniorsub on Oct 12, 2007 9:15:39 GMT
Munster have a B team out. As expected i guess
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Post by ruralgaa on Oct 12, 2007 9:16:32 GMT
I hear Dave Moran is on the panel. that must b a 1st! a guy playing for munster before he played 4 kerry!
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Post by bob567 on Oct 12, 2007 9:23:48 GMT
what is the munster panel???
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Post by Jo90 on Oct 12, 2007 10:10:31 GMT
2 players on the Munster team that couldn't get on the Kerry team - Tommy Walsh and MFR.
MUNSTER (Interpro SF v Leinster): A. Quirke (Cork); T. O’Gorman (Waterford), G. Canty (Cork), T. O’Sullivan (Kerry); K. O’Connor (Cork), G. Spillane (Cork), A. O’Mahony (Kerry); S. Scanlon (do.), M. Aherne (Waterford); F. Gould (Cork), P. O’Neill (do.), J. Miskella (Do.); L. Ó Lionáin (Waterford), T. Walsh (Kerry), MF Russell (Kerry).
Leinster: Damien Sheridan David Henry, Conor Evans, Declan Reilly Paul Casey, Collin Moran, Caoimhin King Shane Ryan, Gary Dolan Bernard Brogan, Paul Bardon, Graham Geraghty Conal Keaney, Dessie Dolan, John Doyle
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