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Post by givehimaball on Aug 19, 2015 21:57:27 GMT
Speaking of medal winners and history and the like, I was talking to someone with serious Kerry connections a few months back and they were telling me about some women who was getting a couple of books signed (possibly for charity) by every still living All-Ireland winning Kerry player.
Meant to ask what happened with it.
Maybe someone here knows more?
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 19, 2015 22:36:01 GMT
Great work ballynamona, appreciated. Are you doing similar for the ladies? There is a whole collection with 10 All-Ireland medals from Mary Jo Curran's era
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 19, 2015 22:41:47 GMT
Great work ballynamona, appreciated. Are you doing similar for the ladies? There is a whole collection with 10 All-Ireland medals from Mary Jo Curran's era I should do I'm sure, but may try to park my geekish tendencies for a while and get some sunlight over the next few weeks... At least with the ladies its concentrated over a few decades. I thought 9 was the most any of them had? It's funny that they were so successful during the famine, and not since.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 19, 2015 22:43:42 GMT
Great work ballynamona, appreciated. Are you doing similar for the ladies? There is a whole collection with 10 All-Ireland medals from Mary Jo Curran's era I should do I'm sure, but may try to park my geekish tendencies for a while and get some sunlight over the next few weeks... At least with the ladies its concentrated over a few decades. I thought 9 was the most any of them had? It's funny that they were so successful during the famine, and not since. Mary Jo has the 10 as far as I know. Thanks for the effort and time put into that piece of work. A real collection of data - Cheers.
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 19, 2015 22:53:20 GMT
I should do I'm sure, but may try to park my geekish tendencies for a while and get some sunlight over the next few weeks... At least with the ladies its concentrated over a few decades. I thought 9 was the most any of them had? It's funny that they were so successful during the famine, and not since. Mary Jo has the 10 as far as I know. Thanks for the effort and time put into that piece of work. A real collection of data - Cheers. You're welcome,just waiting for someone to contradict me now on some part of it!
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 19, 2015 22:59:34 GMT
Mary Jo has the 10 as far as I know. Thanks for the effort and time put into that piece of work. A real collection of data - Cheers. You're welcome,just waiting for someone to contradict me now on some part of it! They'll need a fine comb and toothpick!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 20, 2015 0:31:35 GMT
Jack Flavin( Moyvane) has a unique history; he won 2 AI senior medals with Kerry, his second in 1937 when Kerry beat Galway in the final. In 1938 he went to work in Galway and played for Galway and won another AI medal with them against his native Kerry!! A friend of mine, now deceased always maintained that the Kerry team of that era should have won 5 on a row- they won in '37, 39, 40 & 41- the loss to Galway in '38 was the one that "got away"- Joe Keohane did not play with Kerry in '38 either due to a dispute with the county board. Lieutenant Jack Kissane of Ballydonoghue also won Silver with Galway in '56, for a photo click here. In fairness Flavin's achievement must be a one off, played on both winning sides against each other.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 20, 2015 0:48:08 GMT
The late Eddie Dowling of Ballydonoghue was probably Kerry's unluckiest man regarding an All-Ireland medal. He started the SF in 1946 as captain, was dropped, but came on as sub in the drawn final. He did not play in the replay (I think through injury) and did not get a medal. Absolutely great stuff man. Eddie Dowling didn't get a medal but his fellow parishioner Gus Cremin scored the winning point in the '46 replay, and low and behold he didn't get Sam. GUBU we called it, Gus, Unbelievable, Ballydonoghue, Unprecedented. Gus then broke his leg early the year after and missed the polo grounds trip, when we had Mick Finucane and along with Dowling on the panel. Finucane is the oldest holder of a Celtic Cross and here's what he's still capable of, Mick Finucane - what they think of him in Donegal. He is also the last surviving member of both '47 Polo Grounds teams, and Gus and Eddie only departed last year and in 2012 respectively. Ah man, we make 'em hardy. Weeshie did a really great 6 minute interview with Gus and anyone who wants to know all about the era just click here, sure didn't Gus even recite a poem for Terrace Talk so a true New Liner of Ballythefireside ilk he was, poetry in motion! It also brought out Weeshie's skill as he knew exactly the questions to ask with Gus doing 95% of the talking, and reciting, with no stone left unturned between the pair of 'em.
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Post by keane on Aug 20, 2015 9:54:24 GMT
Speaking of medal winners and history and the like, I was talking to someone with serious Kerry connections a few months back and they were telling me about some women who was getting a couple of books signed (possibly for charity) by every still living All-Ireland winning Kerry player. Meant to ask what happened with it. Maybe someone here knows more? She was interviewed on Terrace Talk a few weeks ago. You should be able to get it on podcast.
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Post by glengael on Aug 20, 2015 11:37:33 GMT
I think it was on TT on Monday night the 27th of July.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 21, 2015 11:59:43 GMT
Medal List makes interesting reading and shows that the "club" of medal winners is smaller than one thinks. Also sorta puts a new light on multiple medal winners with about 1/3 of the medal winners having three or more - i.e. 2/3 have one or two. Worth trying to do a tally by club.
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 21, 2015 12:19:47 GMT
Medal List makes interesting reading and shows that the "club" of medal winners is smaller than one thinks. Also sorta puts a new light on multiple medal winners with about 1/3 of the medal winners having three or more - i.e. 2/3 have one or two. Worth trying to do a tally by club. At the moment Stacks are in the lead, but Crokes are very close behind... The Tralee Players on Kerry's first all-Ireland teams were with Tralee Mitchels. The three main Tralee clubs have equal claim to the Tralee Mitchels legacy, though most of the All-Ireland winners on that team were Boherbee men. The Killarney men back then played for Dr. Crokes. Some of these men were from outlying areas such as Fossa, Firies, Listry, Beaufort, but this was before there were clubs in those areas. One thing that makes it a bit tricky is that players used to move club quite a bit. South Kerry men in particular tended to play with Killarney clubs. Club of origin is probably the fairest way to tally it up.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 21, 2015 20:10:28 GMT
I think Margaret Slattery of Ardfert (maiden name Lawlor) is the only lady with ten All Irelands
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Post by mafi97 on Aug 21, 2015 20:34:51 GMT
Jack Flavin( Moyvane) has a unique history; he won 2 AI senior medals with Kerry, his second in 1937 when Kerry beat Galway in the final. In 1938 he went to work in Galway and played for Galway and won another AI medal with them against his native Kerry!! A friend of mine, now deceased always maintained that the Kerry team of that era should have won 5 on a row- they won in '37, 39, 40 & 41- the loss to Galway in '38 was the one that "got away"- Joe Keohane did not play with Kerry in '38 either due to a dispute with the county board. Lieutenant Jack Kissane of Ballydonoghue also won Silver with Galway in '56, for a photo click here. In fairness Flavin's achievement must be a one off, played on both winning sides against each other. Not doubting your accuracy - but, are you absolutely certain about Jack Kissane being from N.Kerry. I always thought that he was - but, very recently, in a discussion about the 1956 Galway team, I was told very clearly that the Jack Kissane that played that day was from Tipperary. My interlocutor is usually very accurate in his statemnents - and I don't want to "re-claim" Jack Kissane, unless I am on very solid ground. One's reputation rests on such fine margins!!!!!!
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 21, 2015 21:28:50 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 21, 2015 21:31:07 GMT
Mary Jo Curran won 10 All-Ireland medals and 10 All-Star awards.
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Post by mafi97 on Aug 21, 2015 21:55:49 GMT
Ah that is brilliant!!!. Many thanks. I got a slagging from the group (which included two AI medal winners of similar vintage) for trying to claim another medal for the Kingdom. I will have to pick my moment to retrieve my reputation (not to mention, my honour). Thanks again.
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Post by watchdebreakswillye on Aug 21, 2015 22:47:49 GMT
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 22, 2015 9:07:24 GMT
I had a go at grouping medallists by club, and will have to break this into a few posts... In general, I have listed players under the clubs they played with, and if they had a different club of origin, I have noted that.
Many of the Dr. Crokes players who won All-Irelands were from outlying areas, and clubs were not always formally in existence in those areas at that time. I have included them under Crokes.
The three ‘old’ Tralee clubs (i.e. not including Na Gaeil) have equal claim to Tralee Mitchels. John Mitchels use the name and the colours, but are not the same entity. It is interesting to note that the majority of the Tralee Mitchels medallists were Boherbee men. I have noted which current club the players would belong to. Thady O’Gorman’s sons played for Stacks, while James O’Gormans sons played for John Mitchels.
All won medals in the final/decisive replay unless stated otherwise. I have added in some code next to the relevant year when a player won a medal despite not playing in the final/decisive replay.
DF: Last appearance in the AI series that year was in the drawn AI Final SF: Last appearance in the AI series that year was in the Semi-Final QF: Last appearance in the AI series that year was in the Quarter-Final NP: Did not appear in the AI series
Bold indicates AI winning captain that year
Austin Stacks: 84
8: Ger Power 1975 1978 1979 (SF) 1980 1981 1984 1985 1986 8: Mikey Sheehy 1975 1978 1979 1980 1981 1984 (SF) 1985 1986 7: John O’Keeffe 1969 (NP) 1970 1975 1978 1979 1980 1981 6: Jackie Ryan 1924 1926 1929 1930 1931 1932 7: Joe Barrett 1924 1926 1929 1930 1931 1932 5: Miko Doyle 1929 1930 1931 1932 1937 5: John Joe ‘Purty’ Landers 1929 1930 1931 1932 1937 5: Tim ‘Roundy’ Landers 1931 1932 1937 1939 1941 4: Ger O’Keeffe 1975 1979 (SF) 1980 1981 4: Kieran Donaghy 2006 2007 2009 2014 3: Ned ‘Pedlar’ Sweeney 1929 1930 1931 (NP) 3: Jimmy ‘Gawksie’ O’Gorman 1939 1940 1941 2: Jerry ‘Pluggy’ Moriarty 1924 1926 2: Bill ‘Lang’ Landers 1924 1932 2: John ‘Gal’ Slattery 1924 (NP) 1926 2: Denis ‘Rory’ O’Connell 1926 1930 (NP) 2: Dan Ryan 1929 (NP) 1932 (NP) 2: William Kirby 1997 2004 2: Daniel Bohan 2007 (NP) 2009 (NP) 1: Bill O’Gorman 1926 1: Tommy Barrett 1930 (NP) 1: Martin ‘Bracker’ O’Regan 1931 1: JJ Barrett 1962 1: John L. McElligott 1979 (NP) 1: Pa Laide 1997
Dr. Crokes: 65
6: Paul Russell 1924 1926 1929 1930 1931 1932 5: Dick Fitzgerald 1903 1904 1909 1913 1914 4: Con Murphy (Listry) 1904 1909 1913 1914 4: Bill Myers 1937 1939 1940 1941 4: Colm Cooper 2004 2006 2007 2009 3: Paddy Dillon 1903 1904 1909 3: Johnny Skinner 1909 1913 1914 3: Tadghie Lyne 1953 1955 1959 3: Eoin Brosnan 2004 2006 2007 3: Kieran Cremin 2004 (NP) 2006 (NP) 2007 (NP) 3: Kieran O’Leary 2006 (NP) 2007 (NP) 2014 2: Dan McCarthy (Firies) 1903 1904 2: Jack Myers (Firies) 1903 1904 2: Florrie O’Sullivan (Listry) 1903 1904 2: Ned Spillane (Glenflesk) 1909 1913 (NP) 2: Paddy Healy (Glenflesk) 1913 1914 2: Denis Doyle 1913 1914 2: John O’Mahony 1913 1914 2: John Collins 1913 (NP) 1914 (NP) 2: Jimmy O’Connell 1913 (NP) 1914 (SF) 1: Tom O’Sullivan 1904 1: Denny Kissane (Fossa) 1903 1: Willie Lynch 1903 1: Paddy Breen (Beaufort) 1914 1: Teddy O’Connor (Laune Rangers) 1946 1: Dan Kavanagh (An Ghaeltacht) 1946 1: Brian Clarke 1997 1: Fionn Fitzgerald 2014 1: Johnny Buckley 2014
Kerins O’Rahillys: 48
7: Dan O’Keeffe 1931 1932 1937 1939 1940 1941 1946 7: Sean Walsh 1978 1979 1980 1981 1984 1985 1986 3: James Quill 1930 (NP) 1931 (NP) 1932 (NP) 3: Dan Spring 1931 (NP) 1939 1940 3: Micheál Quirke 2004 (NP) 2007 (NP) 2009 2: Dan Joe Conway 1926 (NP) 1929 (NP) 2: Mick Raymond 1937 (NP) 1939 (SF) 2: Jim ‘Bawn’ Fitzgerald 1939 (NP) 1940 (NP) 2: John Dowling 1955 1959 2: Declan Quill 2004 (SF) 2007 (NP) 2: Tommy Walsh 2007 (NP) 2009 2: David Moran 2009 2014 1: Sammy Locke 1929 (NP) 1: Paddy O’Brien 1937 (NP) 1: Jackie Falvey 1946 1: Johnny Foley 1953 1: Jas. Murphy 1953 1: Mick Murphy (Camp) 1955 1: Dinny O’Shea (Camp)1955 1: Barry O’Shea 1997 1: Morgan O’Shea 1997 (SF) 1: Barry John Walsh 2009 (NP) 1: Barry John Keane 2014
Dingle: 42
5: Tom ‘Gega’ O’Connor 1937 1939 1940 1941 1946 5: Tommy Griffin 2000 2004 (SF) 2006 2007 2009 4: Joe O’Sullivan 1929 1930 1931 1932 4: Bill Dillon 1937 1939 1940 1941 1946 4: Diarmuid Murphy 2004 2006 2007 2009 3: Sean Brosnan 1937 1940 1941 3: Paddy ‘Bawn’ Brosnan 1940 1941 1946 2: Jim Brosnan 1953 1955 2: Vincent O’Connor 1979 1984 (SF) 1: Batt O’Connor 1909 1: Jack Sheehy 1924 1: Johnny Moriarty 1939 (SF) 1: Batt Garvey 1946 1: Tom Long (NP) 1: Tom Ashe 1953 1: Paddy Hussey (SF) 1: Bernard O’Sullivan 1981 (NP) 1: Michael Geaney 2014 1: Paul Geaney 2014
John Mitchels: 42
5: Joe Keohane 1937 1939 1940 1941 1946 4: John Joe Sheehy 1924 1926 1929 1930 4: Tadhg Healy 1937 1939 1940 1941 4: Paudie Sheehy 1953 (SF) 1955 1959 1962 3: Johnny Riordan 1926 1929 1930 3: Paddy Whitty 1926 (NP) 1931 1932 3: Timmy O’Dowd 1984 1985 1986 3: John Higgins 1984 (NP) 1985 (SF) 1986 (NP) 2: Bill Kinnerk 1932 (NP) 1937 2: Niall Sheehy 1959 1962 1: Micheál Ó Ruairc 1929 (SF) 1: John Mitchel McCarthy (NP) 1: Frank O’Keeffe 1946 1: William ‘Bruddy’ O’Donnell 1946 1: Garry O’Mahony 1955 1: Sean Og Sheehy 1962 1: Seamus Roche 1962 (SF) 1: Mick Morris 1969 1: Dom O’Donnell 1969 (NP)
Tralee Mitchels: 42
5: Maurice McCarthy (from Castleisland, later involved with John Mitchels) 1903 1904 1909 1913 1914 4: Tom Costello (John Mitchels) 1904 (NP) 1909 1913 1914 3: Con Healy (John Mitchels) 1903 1904 1909 3: Con Clifford (don’t know) 1909 (NP) 1913 1914 3: Tom Rice (Abbeydorney) 1909 1913 1914 2: Austin Stack (Austin Stacks) 1903 1904 2: John Buckley (John Mitchels) 1903 1904 2: Denny Curran (John Mitchels) 1903 1904 2: Jamesie O’Gorman (John Mitchels) 1903 1904 2: John Thomas Fitzgerald (John Mitchels) 1903 1904 2: Patrick J. Cahill (Kerins O’Rahillys) 1903 1904 2: John O’Sullivan (John Mitchels) 1904 1909 2: Danny Mullins (John Mitchels)1913 1914 2: Jack Rice (Abbeydorney) 1913 1914 2: Jack Lawlor (Ballyheigue) 1913 1914 1: Thady O’Gorman (Austin Stacks) 1903 1: Michael J. Quinlan (don’t know) 1909 1: Frank J. Cronin (John Mitchels) 1909 1: Mossie Galvin (John Mitchels) 1924 (SF)
An Ghaeltacht: 38
8: Paidí Ó Sé 1975 1978 1979 1980 1981 1984 1985 1986 6: Darragh Ó Sé 1997 2000 2004 (SF) 2006 2007 2009 5: Tomas Ó Sé 2000 2004 2006 2007 2009 5: Marc Ó Sé 2004 2006 2007 2009 2014 3: Dara Ó Cinneide 1997 2000 2004 2: Tom Long 1959 1962 2: Seamus MacGearailt 1969 1970 2: Micheál Ó Sé 1969 1970 2: Aodhan MacGearailt 2000 2006 (NP) 2: Ronan O Flatharta 2004 (NP) 2007 (NP) 1: John Long 1975 (NP) Castleisland/Castleisland Desmonds: 26
7: Charlie Nelligan 1978 1979 1980 1981 1984 1985 1986 3: Mossie Lyons 2000 (NP) 2006 (NP) 2007 2: Rody Kirwan 1903 1904 2: Denny Breen 1903 1909 2: Dave Geaney 1959 1962 (SF) 2: Tim ‘Tiger’ Lyons 1959 1962 2: Dermot Hanafin Jnr 1985 (SF) 1986 1: Jack McElligott 1913 (SF) 1: Mundy Prendeville 1924 1: Dermot Hanfin Snr 1953 1: Tim O’Sullivan 1962 1: Kenneth Dillon 2000 (NP) 1: Ger Reidy 2009 (NP)
Killarney Legion: 25
5: Johnny Culloty 1955 1959 1962 1969 1970 2: Jackie Lyne 1946 1953 2: James ‘Mixie’ Palmer (Sneem) 1953 1955 2: JJ Sheehan 1953 1955 2: Gerald O’Sullivan 1953 1955 (NP) 2: Diarmuid O’Donoghue 1980 (NP) 1984 (NP) 1: Mike Coffey (Beaufort) 1926 (NP) 1: Tim O’Leary 1937 1: Mikey Lyne 1941 1: Denny Lyne 1946 1: Donie Murphy 1953 1: Peter O’Leary 2000 (NP) 1: John Cronin 2004 (NP) 1: Brian Kelly 2014 1: James O’Donoghue 2014 1: Jonathan Lyne 2014 (SF)
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 22, 2015 9:08:07 GMT
Beale: 23
8: Denis ‘Ogie’ Moran 1975 1978 1979 1980 1981 1984 1985 1986 7: Eoin Liston 1978 1979 1980 (SF) 1981 1984 1985 1986 6: Bob Stack 1924 1926 1929 1930 1931 1932 1: Gerard Griffin 1978 (NP) 1: Sean Liston 1985 (NP)
St. Mary’s Cahirciveen: 21
7: Jack O’Shea 1978 1979 1980 1981 1984 1985 1986 5: Bryan Sheehan 2004 (NP) 2006 2007 2009 (SF) 2014 3: Jerome O’Shea 1953 (NP) 1955 1959 2: William Keating 1913 (NP) 1914 2: Maurice Fitzgerald 1997 2000 1: Jack Murphy 1924 1: Patrick J O’Sullivan 1931 (NP)
Ballylongford: 18
5: Johnny Walsh 1932 1937 1939 1940 1941 3: John Kennedy 1984 1985 1986 (SF) 2: Colm Kennelly 1953 1955 (NP) 2: Jackie Walsh 1975 (NP) 1980 (NP) 2: Paud O’Donoghue 1969 1970 2: Eamon O’Donoghue 1969 1970 1: Barry Walsh 1979 (NP) 1: Paddy Kelly 2004
Templenoe: 19
8: Pat Spillane 1975 1978 1979 1980 1981 1984 1985 1986 7: Mick Spillane 1978 1979 1980 (SF) 1981 1984 1985 1986 4: Tom Spillane 1981 (NP) 1984 1985 1986
Listowel/Listowel Emmets: 18
5: Tim Kennelly 1975 1978 1979 1980 1981 2: Tony McAuliffe 1939 (SF) 1940 (NP) 2: Garry McMahon 1959 1962 2: Stephen Stack 1986 (NP) 1997 2: Noel Kennelly 2000 2004 (NP) 2: Brendan Guiney 2004 2006 1: Paddy Mullane 1909 1: Jack Kennelly (Clounmacon) 1909 1: Tadhg Kennelly 2009
Finuge: 17
5: Jimmy Deenihan 1975 1978 1979 1980 1981 4: Paul Galvin 2004 2006 2007 2009 3: Eamonn Fitzmaurice 2000 2004 2006 2: Paud O’Sullivan 1926 (NP) 1929 (NP) 1: Eamon Breen 1997 1: Enda Galvin 2000 (SF) 1: Maurice Corridon 2009 (NP)
Rathmore: 15
5: Tom O’Sullivan; 2000 2004 2006 2007 2009 5: Aidan O’Mahony 2004 2006 2007 2009 2014 2: D.J. Crowley 1969 1970 2: Declan O’Keeffe 1997 2000 1: Paul Murphy 2014
Beaufort: 14
5: Paudie Lynch 1975 1978 1979 1980 1981 3: Murt Kelly 1939 1940 1941 3: Brendan Lynch 1969 1970 1975 2: Kevin Coffey 1959 1962 1: Donie Hartnett 1984 (NP)
Camp: 14
4: Charlie O’Sullivan 1937 1939 1940 1941 4: Seamus Murphy 1959 1962 1969 1970 3: Tim O’Donnell 1929 1930 1937 3: Sean Murphy 1953 1955 1959
Annascaul: 13
7: Tommy Doyle 1978 (SF) 1979 1980 1981 1984 1985 1986 5: Paddy Kennedy 1937 (DF) 1939 1940 1941 1946 1: Jimmy Pierce 1941 (NP)
Laune Rangers: 13
5: Mike Frank Russell 1997 2000 2004 2006 2007 3: Liam Hassett 1997 2000 2004 1: Paddy Kennelly 1913 1: Billy O’Shea 1997 1: Mike Hassett 1997 1: John Sheehan 2004 (QF) 1: Peter Crowley 2014
Moyvane: 12
6: Con Brosnan 1924 1926 1929 1930 1931 1932 2: Jack Flavin 1932 (NP) 1937 2: Johnny Mulvihil 1978 (NP) 1985 (NP) 1: Tom O’Mahony 1926 1: Mick Brosnan 1953 (SF)
Sneem: 12
6: John Egan 1975 1978 1979 1980 1981 1984 2: Killian Burns 1997 2000 (SF) 2: Ronan Hussey 2006 (NP) 2007 (NP) 1: Gearoid Fitzgerald 1937 1: PJ Burns 1970 (SF)
Glenbeigh/Glencar: 12 4: Darran O’Sullivan 2006 2007 2009 2014 (QF) 2: Pat Griffin 1969 1970 1: Jimmy Lucey 1962 1: Jerry O’Riordan 1962 1: Noel Lucey 1962 1: Pat Sheahan 1981 (NP) 1: Aidan O’Shea 2009 (NP) 1: Pa Kilkenny 2014 (SF)
Valentia: 11
4: Mick O’Connell 1959 1962 1969 1970 3: Ger Lynch 1984 1985 1986 2: Ger O’Driscoll 1975 1980 1: Jack McCarthy 1909 1: John Casey 1909 (NP)
Kilcummin: 11
4: Dee O’Connor 1929 1930 1931 1932 4: Mike McCarthy 2000 2004 2006 2009 1: Eugene Moriarty 1924 (NP) 1: Sean Kelly 1953 1: Brendan Kealy 2014 (NP)
Spa: 11
5: Paudie O’Mahony 1975 1978 1979 (NP) 1980 (NP) 1981 (NP) 4: Donie O’Sullivan 1962 (SF) 1969 (SF) 1970 1975 (NP) 2: Mick Gleeson 1969 1970
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 22, 2015 9:08:56 GMT
Glenflesk: 9
4: Seamus Moynihan 1997 2000 2004 2006 3: John Crowley 1997 2000 2004 2: Derry Crowley 1969 (NP) 1970 (NP)
Knocknagoshel: 8
5: Eddie Walsh 1937 (NP) 1939 1940 1941 1946 2: Ned Roche 1953 1955 1: Sean McCarthy 1937 (DF)
Cromane: 7
4: Sean O’Sullivan 2004 (QF) 2006 2007 2009 (QF) 3: Donnchadh Walsh 2007 (NP) 2009 2014
Waterville: 6
4: Mick O’Dwyer 1959 1962 1969 1970 2: Denis O’Dwyer 1997 2000 (DF)
Asdee: 6
6: Jack Walsh 1924 1926 1929 1930 1931 1932
Lispole: 6
4: Bill Casey 1939 1940 1941 1946 2: Liam Higgins 1969 1970
Ballydonoghue: 3
1: Gus Cremin 1946 1: John Bunyan 1975 (SF) 1: Liam Flaherty 1997
Duagh: 6
3: Dan McAuliffe 1955 (SF) 1959 1962 2: Anthony Maher 2009 (NP) 2014 1: Tom Costello 1955
Keel: 6
3: Gerald Teahan 1940 (NP) 1941(NP) 1946 (SF) 2: Tom Prendergast 1969 1970 1: Brendan Kelliher 1946 (DF)
Kenmare: 6
3: Paul O’Connor 2006 (NP) 2007 (NP) 2009 (QF) 1: Paudie Finnegan 1970 (SF) 1: Mickey Ned O’Sullivan 1975 1: Stephen O’Brien 2014
Ballymacelligott: 6
3: James Baily 1924 1926 1929 2: John Baily 1924 1926 (NP) 1: Pat Clifford 1926
Ardfert: 5
1: Tom Lawlor 1941 (NP) 1: Brendan O’Shea 1953 (SF) 1: Bobby Buckley 1955 (SF) 1: Moss O’Connell 1959 1: Tom Collins 1959 (NP)
Currow: 5
2: Seamus Scanlon 2007 2009 1: Humphrey Murphy 1914 1: Mick Fleming 1969 (SF) 1: Mick Galwey 1986 (SF)
Dromid Pearses: 5
5: Declan O’Sullivan 2004 2006 2007 2009 2014
Renard: 5
4: Killian Young 2006 (NP) 2007 2009 2014 1: Ned O’Neill 1903
St. Michaels/Foilmore: 5
2: Ronan O’Connor 2004 2006 (NP) 1: Jerry O’Sullivan 1985 (NP) 1: Adrian O’Connell 2006 (NP) 1: Mark Griffin 2014 (SF)
Firies: 4
2: Con Geaney 1931 (NP) 1932 2: Donal Daly 1997 2000
Castlegregory: 4
2: Pat ‘Aeroplane’ O’Shea 1913 1914 1: Tom Moriarty 1955 1: Jack Dowling 1959
Churchill: 3
2: Pat McCarthy 1975 1978 (SF) 1: Batt O’Shea 1975 (NP)
Caherdaniel: 3
3: Eamon Fitzgerald 1924 (NP) 1930 1931
Gneeveguilla: 3
3: Ambrose O’Donovan 1984 1985 1986
Scartaglin: 3
3: Padraig Reidy 2006 (NP) 2007 2009 (NP)
Skellig Rangers: 2
1: Pat O’Mahony 1978 (SF) 1: Stephen O’Sullivan 2000 (NP)
Tarbert: 2 1: Tom O’Donnell 1970 (NP) 1: Shane Enright 2014
Tuosist: 1
1: Phil O’Sullivan 1924
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 22, 2015 10:00:45 GMT
Jack Flavin( Moyvane) has a unique history; he won 2 AI senior medals with Kerry, his second in 1937 when Kerry beat Galway in the final. In 1938 he went to work in Galway and played for Galway and won another AI medal with them against his native Kerry!! A friend of mine, now deceased always maintained that the Kerry team of that era should have won 5 on a row- they won in '37, 39, 40 & 41- the loss to Galway in '38 was the one that "got away"- Joe Keohane did not play with Kerry in '38 either due to a dispute with the county board. Meant to reply on this earlier. 1938 was indeed one that got away, and the end of the replay sounds like it was pure chaos. Galway were called "the League of Nations". Bobby Beggs, of Skerries, was eligible for Galway. He later won an AI with Dublin in 1942. Jack Flavin as you mention was from Moyvane, they also had players from Mayo, Clare and Leitrim. Kerry were unfortunate not to win the drawn game, as John Joe Landers had put the ball over the bar as the ref blew the final whistle. Joe Keohane and JJ 'Purty' Landers played the drawn game, and as you mention, declared had a dispute with the Co. Board and so withdrew for the replay. With three minutes to go in the replay, Galway were up 2-4 to 0-6. The ref blew a long blast to signal a Kerry free. This was misinterpreted by the crowd as the final whistle, and hundreds of people invaded the pitch. An announcement was made over the PA system for the pitch to be cleared, and the game concluded. Many of the Kerry players had left Croke Park at this stage. The reserves got ready, and Joe Keohane, Murt Kelly and some others joined up to make a team. Kerry did finish out the match, and scored one further point.
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Post by glengael on Aug 22, 2015 11:17:48 GMT
Glenflesk has a few more medals. Paddy Healy had 2, 1913 and 1914 and I'll have to check for Ned Spillane.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 22, 2015 11:33:05 GMT
I had it in my head that Mary Lawlor -Slattery had a medal more that Mary Jo but its 10 each.
Margaret was a bit older and was there when they won the first one in 1976. She has retired when they won it in 1993. Mary Jo's was as a sub in 1982.
Both amazing athletes. I used to go to the finals in Croker and it was nice to see the green and gold on the ould sod in a senior final during the long famine years.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 22, 2015 11:33:33 GMT
1976 Kerry seniors continue their preparation for the All Ireland final against Offaly. The game was played at Littleton, Co Tipperary on Sunday the 10th October 1976. Offaly very sportingly agreed to change jerseys when they learned that Kerry got new socks, shorts, jerseys and track suits sponsored. Just a handful of supporters travelled from Kerry for the game. In the early stagers of the game Offaly were dominating play in most positions and put a lot of pressure on the Kerry defence. Noreen Thompson at right full back for Kerry gave a wonderful exhibition of fielding and must have broken the hearts of Offaly with her performance. Once more the leading scorer for Kerry was centre half forward Mary Geaney who scored 3-2. The other scorers for Kerry were Nora Donoghue 1-1, Kathleen Brosnan 0-2 and Eileen Donoghue 0-1. Kerry went on to win their first All Ireland by beating Offaly 4-6 to 1-5. Kerry team: Sue Curtin Noreen Thompson Bernie Donoghue Sue Moloney Margaret Lawlor Marie Murphy Annette O’Connor Dell McLoughlin Noa Donoghue Kathleen Brosnan Mary Geaney (capt) Mai Lombard Eileen Donohgue Margaret Doherty Helen Slattery Subs: Jackie Moriarty for Margaret Lawlor (injured) Other subs: Ann O’Connell, Amelia Collins, Mary Ferris, Eileen O’Connor, Matilda McDonagh .
1982 The All Ireland final was played at Nenagh on the 3rd October in what was one of the worse days of the year. There was a continuous downpour during the game with strong winds. Kerry defeated Offaly by 1-8 to 1-2. This was Kerry’s second senior title and the first of their nine in a row. The Kerry team was: Hilda ‘Leary Tess Horgan Eileen O’Connor Nora Foley Marion Doherty Lil Horgan Margaret Lawlor Mary Twomey Annette Walsh Marina Barry Eileen Lawlor Sheila Twomey Margaret Flaherty Dell Whyte Kathleen McElligott Subs: Mary Jo Curran for K McElligott Kay Carr for Sheila Twomey Other subs: Bridget Leen Phil Curran Siobhan Leen
1983 . Kerry had already won the 1983 All Ireland at this time by defeating Wexford in the final at Kilsheelan, Co Tipperary on the score Kerry 4-6 Wexford 1-7. This was a great game of football. Wexford had led at half time but four points and with seven minutes left the teams were level. The following was the Kerry team: Kathleen McElligott Bridget Leen Nora Foley Tess Horgan Marion Doherty Eileen O’Connor Siobhan Leen Annette Walsh Lil Horgan Marina Barry Mary Jo Curran Margaret Lawlor Margaret Flaherty Mary Twomey Eileen Lawlor Sub: Phil Curran, Margaret Sheehan, Sheila Twomey, Noreen Daly, Teresa Murphy, Pat Joyce. All-Stars Five Kerry players were selected on the All Star team, Nora Foley, Annette Walsh, Mary Jo Curran, Mary Twomey and Eileen Lawlor. The Kerry v All Stars game was played at Castleisland on the 9th October with Kerry winning by 5-9 to 0-3.
1984 The All Ireland final was played at Timahoe, Co Laois on the 9th September between Kerry and Leitrim and in the lowest scoring final in the history of ladies football, Kerry won by five points to three. All Stars Kerry had five players on the All Star team, namely Bridget Leen, Marion Doherty, Mary Jo Curran, Eileen Lawlor, Margaret Lawlor.
1985 . Kerry and Laois played in the All Ireland final which was played at Pairc Ui Caoimh on the 8th September before approximately 5000 people. It was played before the Cork senior hurling championship semi final. The spectators were very impressed with the high standard of football displayed by both counties. Mary Jo Curran gave a brilliant exhibition of high fielding at centre field. Final score Kerry 2-9 Laois 0-5. Kerry team: Kathleen Curran Bridget Leen Nora Foley Tess Horgan Marion Doherty Phil Curran Siobhan Leen (capt) Mary Jo Curran Lil O’Sullivan Marina Barry Annette Walsh Eileen Lawlor Mary Buckley Del Whyte Margaret Flaherty Margaret Lawlor was unable to play due to injury Subs: Mary Lane for Marion Doherty Brid Lawlor, Mary Stack, Margaret Sheehan, Ann Costello, Barbara Whyte All Stars Six Kerry players were selected on the All Starts, namely Kathleen Curran, Marion Doherty, Lil O’Sullivan, Mary Jo Curran, Margaret Lawlor, Dell Whyte.
1986 Kerry made the first of their five visits to Croke Park for the All Ireland final against Wexford on the 12th October. It was a wonderful occasion and fitting that both teams played wonderful football. There is no doubt that the skills displayed helped in a very big way to influence the GAA in allowing the ladies All Irelands to be played there for the future. Final score Kerry 1-11 Wexford 0-8. Kerry team: Kathleen Curran Marion Doherty Nora Hallissey Tess Horgan Margaret Flaherty Phil Curran Lil O’Sullivan Mary Jo Curran Mary Lane Marina Barry Eileen Lawlor Margaret Lawlor Mary Buckley Dell Whyte Annette Walsh (capt) Bridget Leen was unable to play due to injury. Subs: Ann Costello, Jackie McGillicuddy, Helena O’Connor, Rose Moriarty, Patricia Murphy Five Kerry players received All Star awards. They were Nora Hallissey, Kathleen Curran, Mary Jo Curran, Marina Barry, Dell White.
1987 All Ireland Senior final Kerry made their second visit to Croke Park a successful one when they defeated Leinster champions, Westmeath in the All Ireland final by 2-10 to 2-2. The Kerry team: Kathleen Curran Bridget Leen Dell Whyte Tess O’Carroll Marion Doherty Mary Lane Phil Curran Annette Walsh Ann Costello Marina Barry Mary Jo Curran Eileen Lawlor Margaret Lawlor Jackie McGillicuddy Margaret Flaherty Subs: Mary Buckley for Ann Costello Ann Callaghan for Eileen Lawlor Mary Ellen Cronin for Marina Barry Siobhan, Sullivan, Patricia Meade, Helena O’Connor, Patricia Murphy, Barbara Whyte, Alice McCarthy
1988 The Munster final was once more between great rivals Kerry and Waterford. The game was played at Ballymacarbry, Co Waterford on the 17th September. At one stage in this game, Kerry were behind by 1-4 to 0-1 but made a great fight back to clinch victory on the score Kerry 3-5 Waterford 1-8. This was Kerry’s eighth Munster final victory in a row. Kerry had a bye into the All Ireland final. The final between Kerry and Laois was played at Croke Park on the 16th October. The game started at a blistering pace with Laois taking the lead with a great goal from Sue Ramsbotton but eventually Kerry settled down to give what was probably one of their greatest displays ever and won in the end by 2-12 to 3-3. The Kerry team: Kathleen Curran Bridget Leen Nora Hallissey Tess Carroll Marion Doherty Mary Lane (capt) Phil Curran Mary Jo Curran Annette Walsh Marina Barry Lil O’Sullivan Margaret Flaherty Eileen Lawlor Margaret Slattery Jackie McGillicuddy Subs: Patricia Murphy, Sheila Looney, Michelle Walsh for Phil Curran, Margaret Slattery and Eileen Lawlor in the last three minutes. Ann Callaghan, Ann Costello, Mary Ellen Cronin, Mary Buckley. A feature of this game was a 45 sent over the bar by Kerry captain Mary Lane. All Stars Kerry had six players on the All Star team, namely Kathleen Curran, Phil Curran Mary Jo Curran, Annette Walsh, Eileen Lawlor, Margaret Slattery.
1989 All Ireland senior final: On the 8th October Kerry and Wexford met in the All-Ireland final at Croke Park and after a great game of football, Kerry won on the score Kerry 1-14, Wexford 1-5. All Stars v Kerry: This game took place at Tralee on the 26th November with the All Stars winning on the score All Stars 2-6, Kerry 0-7. Kerry’s All Ireland winning team was: Kathleen Curran Bridget Leen Phil Curran Tess O’Carroll Marion Doherty Mary Lane Margaret Flaherty Annette Walsh Mary Jo Curran Marina Barry Kate Liston Eileen Lawlor Margaret Slattery Dell Whyte Ann Costello Subs: Jackie McGillicuddy, Elaine McGillicuddy, Siobhan Sullivan, Michelle Walsh, Ann O’Callaghan, Patricia Murphy, Mary Ellen Cronin, Fionnuala Ruane
1990 All Ireland final: The All Ireland final was played at Croke Park on the 11th November between Kerry and Laois. The final score was Kerry 1-9 Laois 0-6. This was Kerry’s 9th All Ireland win in a row and Margaret Lawlor Slattery’s 10th All Ireland senior medal. Kerry team: Kathleen Curran Bridget Leen Dell Whyte (capt) Patricia Murphy Marion Doherty Phil Curran Margaret Flaherty Katie Liston Mary Jo Curran Marina Barry Ann Costello Sheila Looney Margaret Slattery Eileen Dardis Helena McElligott Subs: Siobhan Sullivan for Helena McElligott Ann Callaghan, Eileen Mulivihill, Fionuala Ruane, Kay Fitzgerald, Aileen McLoughlin, Elaine McGillicuddy, Lily Maloney, Michelle Walsh All Stars Six Kerry players were selected on the All Star team, namely Bridget Leen, Marion Doherty, Mary Jo Curran, Katie Liston, Margaret Slattery, Eileen Dardis.
1991 On the 11th August 1991, Kerry suffered their first defeat in the championship since they were defeated by Offaly in the All Ireland final of 1981 when losing to Waterford at Listowel on the score Waterford 2-11 Kerry 2-6. This was another great game of football and while it was heart breaking from a Kerry point of view as it was the end of such an outstanding run by a great bunch of young ladies, nobody in Kerry begrudged Waterford their success as they had stuck in there when other teams would have given up.
1992 After the defeat by Waterford in the 1991 Munster final in Listowel, it was envisaged that many of the 9 in a row team would retire but when the National League started in 1992 most of them made themselves available for selection again. Margaret Lawlor Slattery had decided to call it a day and Mary Jo Curran was concentrating in basketball for the earlier part of the year at least. Kerry seniors prepared well for the Munster Championship and on the 16th August gave an outstanding display in beating Clare by 2-17 to 2-2 in the semi final at Newmarket-on-Fergus. Two weeks later Kerry travelled to Dungarvan to take on Waterford in the Munster final with high hopes of regaining the Munster title. The game was played in a continuous downpour with a strong wind blowing across the pitch. It was probably one of the poorest games played involving these two great teams. Waterford won by 0-8 to 1-1 and certainly deserved the victory on the day. A day on which the once star Kerry forward line flopped.
1993 On the 1st August at Fitzgerald Stadium, Killarney, Kerry and Waterford, as they have done in the past, provided a great hours football before Kerry emerged victorious on the score of Kerry 3-9 Waterford 2-11. Kerry went on to easily defeat a very young Monaghan side in the All Ireland semi final by 8-11 to 0-7, and accounted for Laois in the final by 4-8 to 2-6 to win their 11th title.
1994 In the Munster Senior Championship semi final, Kerry defeated Clare 3-13 to 1-3 to qualify for another Munster final against Waterford. The final was played at Dungarvan on the 31st August. Waterford proved too good for a very young Kerry team and ran out easy winners on a score, Waterford 1-16 Kerry 2-2.
1995 In the senior Munster final, Kerry and Waterford clashed again at Fitzgerald Stadium Killarney on the 30th July. Most people expected Waterford to have an easy victory. Once more, we were treated to an exhibition of all that is good in football with Waterford holding on to win after a titanic struggle. Final score Waterford 2-12 Kerry 3-7.
1996 1996 was a bad year all round for Kerry. The Chairman of the County Board, Jerry O’Mahony resigned. The trainer of the senior team, Ann Egar also resigned. Kerry also fulfilled all their fixtures in national league but only won a couple of games and failed to reach the knock out stage. The Under 14, Under 16 and Minor teams all lost out in Munster. However, there was some good news for under age football as Beaufort won Feile competition in Mayo and Intermediate School, Killorglin won the All Ireland post-primary schools junior title.
1997 The senior team failed to win a game in the National League and were relegated to Division 2 for the first time. The senior team were allowed to enter the Intermediate Championship. They defeated Cork in the quarter final. They defeated Clare (second team) in the semi final. They defeated Dublin in Ballinasloe in the final on the 27th September.
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 22, 2015 11:51:10 GMT
Glenflesk has a few more medals. Paddy Healy had 2, 1913 and 1914 and I'll have to check for Ned Spillane. I have them down under Crokes.They each have 2. Ned Spillane has 2 - 1909 (played); 1913 - sub. I might have been better off by listing them under which present day club the players would belong to.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 22, 2015 11:56:33 GMT
Jack Flavin( Moyvane) has a unique history; he won 2 AI senior medals with Kerry, his second in 1937 when Kerry beat Galway in the final. In 1938 he went to work in Galway and played for Galway and won another AI medal with them against his native Kerry!! A friend of mine, now deceased always maintained that the Kerry team of that era should have won 5 on a row- they won in '37, 39, 40 & 41- the loss to Galway in '38 was the one that "got away"- Joe Keohane did not play with Kerry in '38 either due to a dispute with the county board. Meant to reply on this earlier. 1938 was indeed one that got away, and the end of the replay sounds like it was pure chaos. Galway were called "the League of Nations". Bobby Beggs, of Skerries, was eligible for Galway. He later won an AI with Dublin in 1942. Jack Flavin as you mention was from Moyvane, they also had players from Mayo, Clare and Leitrim. Kerry were unfortunate not to win the drawn game, as John Joe Landers had put the ball over the bar as the ref blew the final whistle. Joe Keohane and JJ 'Purty' Landers played the drawn game, and as you mention, declared had a dispute with the Co. Board and so withdrew for the replay. With three minutes to go in the replay, Galway were up 2-4 to 0-6. The ref blew a long blast to signal a Kerry free. This was misinterpreted by the crowd as the final whistle, and hundreds of people invaded the pitch. An announcement was made over the PA system for the pitch to be cleared, and the game concluded. Many of the Kerry players had left Croke Park at this stage. The reserves got ready, and Joe Keohane, Murt Kelly and some others joined up to make a team. Kerry did finish out the match, and scored one further point. Is that the same Murt Kelly that was on the Dublin team that beat Kerry in a semi final in Tralee in the 30s. I think it is.
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 22, 2015 12:09:20 GMT
Great work with the medals. It should be pinned as it's something we will come back to often and hopefully update. The club breakdown is only for Kerry players and famously Stacks have another with Dinny Long (Cork). Have any other Kerry clubs similar players?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Aug 22, 2015 12:17:36 GMT
Hey ballynamona, Eamon and Paud O'Donoghue played with Ballylongford while Liam Flaherty is a Ballydonoghue man. I hope this is not a reflection of the data source.
Do you have figures for the number of medals Kerry have won at each level?
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Post by ballynamona on Aug 22, 2015 13:01:06 GMT
Meant to reply on this earlier. 1938 was indeed one that got away, and the end of the replay sounds like it was pure chaos. Galway were called "the League of Nations". Bobby Beggs, of Skerries, was eligible for Galway. He later won an AI with Dublin in 1942. Jack Flavin as you mention was from Moyvane, they also had players from Mayo, Clare and Leitrim. Kerry were unfortunate not to win the drawn game, as John Joe Landers had put the ball over the bar as the ref blew the final whistle. Joe Keohane and JJ 'Purty' Landers played the drawn game, and as you mention, declared had a dispute with the Co. Board and so withdrew for the replay. With three minutes to go in the replay, Galway were up 2-4 to 0-6. The ref blew a long blast to signal a Kerry free. This was misinterpreted by the crowd as the final whistle, and hundreds of people invaded the pitch. An announcement was made over the PA system for the pitch to be cleared, and the game concluded. Many of the Kerry players had left Croke Park at this stage. The reserves got ready, and Joe Keohane, Murt Kelly and some others joined up to make a team. Kerry did finish out the match, and scored one further point. Is that the same Murt Kelly that was on the Dublin team that beat Kerry in a semi final in Tralee in the 30s. I think it is. It is.
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