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Post by KY50 on Jun 20, 2015 15:20:14 GMT
Probably Killarney, we would owe Cork an extra game in the Pairc when it opens again.
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Post by tommynk on Jun 21, 2015 18:43:54 GMT
I am surprised at the level of confidence here. I think there is a possibility we will ship 2/3 goals and will need to put up a big scoreline to win.
Who will mark Hurly?
I would be great to have Moran fully fit,he is an out and out leader who brings so much to the team.
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Post by stevieq on Jun 21, 2015 19:40:59 GMT
I am surprised at the level of confidence here. I think there is a possibility we will ship 2/3 goals and will need to put up a big scoreline to win. Who will mark Hurly? I would be great to have Moran fully fit,he is an out and out leader who brings so much to the team. Yes. I think anyone who was at the league game in Cork earlier in the year is not over confident about the result. This will be like an All Ireland final to these guys.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 21, 2015 19:45:24 GMT
Cork must be favourites based on NFL results in 2015.
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Post by inchperfect on Jun 21, 2015 19:55:35 GMT
2014 league: Cork win by 10 points 2014 championship: Kerry win by 12 points 2015 league: Cork win by 11 points 2015 championship:
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Post by tommynk on Jun 21, 2015 20:22:13 GMT
Cork must be favourites based on NFL results in 2015. Kerry 4/9. Cork 9/4 with Paddypower Big odds on Cork considering.
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Post by leesider on Jun 23, 2015 18:40:55 GMT
Cork must be favourites based on NFL results in 2015. I'd say your tongue was so firmly planted in your cheek writing that it nearly drew blood Everyone knows Cork league wins over Kerry count for nothing come the championship. Ye had a severely weakened team that day anyway. How many who played that day will be playing on the 5 July?
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Post by Deise Exile on Jun 23, 2015 19:57:19 GMT
Lads a bit unfair that all stand tickets are going to the clubs.?What about all the loyal fans outside the county. Do we not deserve a chance to Q and get them? Will the clubs return stand tickets not taken up for sale? What's the story with family tickets?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 23, 2015 20:36:17 GMT
Lads a bit unfair that all stand tickets are going to the clubs.?What about all the loyal fans outside the county. I suppose they would say loyal fans should get season tickets...
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Post by wayupnorth on Jun 23, 2015 21:34:01 GMT
Lads a bit unfair that all stand tickets are going to the clubs.?What about all the loyal fans outside the county. I suppose they would say loyal fans should get season tickets... Better atmosphere on the terraces if the sun is shining. Anyway the quality of seats given to Season Ticket holders in Killarney for Championship games leaves a lot to be desired.
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Post by kot on Jun 24, 2015 9:38:34 GMT
Cork must be favourites based on NFL results in 2015. Kerry 4/9. Cork 9/4 with Paddypower Big odds on Cork considering. Wouldn't touch Kerry on those odds with a bargepole! Get closer to even money might whet my appetite. Cork like you say are a very attractive price. But there is no way I could go back them could I?
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Post by hugh20 on Jun 24, 2015 11:29:04 GMT
Bookies don't get it wrong too often. One would imagine that our record in Fitzgerald Stadium in Championship is the reason behind this pricing. Cork look the better value but I would prefer to go and enjoy the game.....maybe a sneaky 20 on James O Donoghue or Paul Geaney for 1st goal
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Post by kot on Jun 24, 2015 12:53:34 GMT
Bookies don't get it wrong too often. One would imagine that our record in Fitzgerald Stadium in Championship is the reason behind this pricing. Cork look the better value but I would prefer to go and enjoy the game.....maybe a sneaky 20 on James O Donoghue or Paul Geaney for 1st goal Got it badly wrong last weekend with Laois & Rossies
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Post by skybluezone on Jun 24, 2015 12:53:46 GMT
Kerry 4/9. Cork 9/4 with Paddypower Big odds on Cork considering. Wouldn't touch Kerry on those odds with a bargepole! Get closer to even money might whet my appetite. Cork like you say are a very attractive price. But there is no way I could go back them could I? Considering what? Cork have went to Killarney with much better teams and came home with their tale between their legs. Cork should be 7/2 or 4/1. I'm not advocating at 4/9 is buying money but I cannot see any earthly reason why Kerry won't beat them by at least 5. Unless you build up a cruel injury list in the meantime. Don't know what the handicap spread is but I'd be all over -3 for Kerry.
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Post by kot on Jun 24, 2015 15:10:38 GMT
Wouldn't touch Kerry on those odds with a bargepole! Get closer to even money might whet my appetite. Cork like you say are a very attractive price. But there is no way I could go back them could I? Considering what? Cork have went to Killarney with much better teams and came home with their tale between their legs. Cork should be 7/2 or 4/1. I'm not advocating at 4/9 is buying money but I cannot see any earthly reason why Kerry won't beat them by at least 5. Unless you build up a cruel injury list in the meantime. Don't know what the handicap spread is but I'd be all over -3 for Kerry. Hardly with their tail between their legs. Since they got a hosing in 2004 Cork came to Killarney in: '06 - Drew '07 - Lost by 2 '09 - drew '10 - drew '11 - lost by 2 '13 - lost by 2. So if you are disregarding the league and Kerry's opening game and just going by recent history in Killarney. Then your -3 will be gobbled up by the bookies my friend. Mind you, I really hope you win
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 24, 2015 15:17:26 GMT
The bookies are Kerry -2.
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Post by Fado on Jun 24, 2015 15:25:07 GMT
Best odds on the draw then.
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Post by hugh20 on Jun 24, 2015 15:51:28 GMT
Bookies don't get it wrong too often. One would imagine that our record in Fitzgerald Stadium in Championship is the reason behind this pricing. Cork look the better value but I would prefer to go and enjoy the game.....maybe a sneaky 20 on James O Donoghue or Paul Geaney for 1st goal Got it badly wrong last weekend with Laois & Rossies Yes they did indeed get it wrong but not too many could have seen those shocks. They also got it wrong with Kilkenny, Tipperary and Galway in the hurling in terms of the handicap betting. However, overall they are fairly accurate. I think they have got the betting pretty accurate for the Munster Final, Cork have players who could trouble us in Hurley and O'Neill but I do expect us to win by a few points and looking forward to seeing Gooch and James O' Donoghue back in action together.
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Post by skybluezone on Jun 24, 2015 16:56:12 GMT
Considering what? Cork have went to Killarney with much better teams and came home with their tale between their legs. Cork should be 7/2 or 4/1. I'm not advocating at 4/9 is buying money but I cannot see any earthly reason why Kerry won't beat them by at least 5. Unless you build up a cruel injury list in the meantime. Don't know what the handicap spread is but I'd be all over -3 for Kerry. Hardly with their tail between their legs. Since they got a hosing in 2004 Cork came to Killarney in: '06 - Drew '07 - Lost by 2 '09 - drew '10 - drew '11 - lost by 2 '13 - lost by 2. So if you are disregarding the league and Kerry's opening game and just going by recent history in Killarney. Then your -3 will be gobbled up by the bookies my friend. Mind you, I really hope you win My point is that a very good Cork team in 09-11 era still couldn't beat you in Killarney. You savaged this crew in the Pairc last year. You now have a more experienced and deeper panel than in 2014. Cork are probably worse, at least mentally. Handy win for your boys.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Jun 24, 2015 19:19:33 GMT
Hardly with their tail between their legs. Since they got a hosing in 2004 Cork came to Killarney in: '06 - Drew '07 - Lost by 2 '09 - drew '10 - drew '11 - lost by 2 '13 - lost by 2. So if you are disregarding the league and Kerry's opening game and just going by recent history in Killarney. Then your -3 will be gobbled up by the bookies my friend. Mind you, I really hope you win My point is that a very good Cork team in 09-11 era still couldn't beat you in Killarney. You savaged this crew in the Pairc last year. You now have a more experienced and deeper panel than in 2014. Cork are probably worse, at least mentally. Handy win for your boys. Talking nonsense there Skyblue. Last year apart,Cork have consistently put it up to kerry,in Killarney and in the páirc,with far worse teams than the one that will travel on Sunday week. I expect it to be a very tight game. Cork have nothing to lose and will go at it from the off. Allied to that,apart from 10 minutes against a division 3 team, I haven't seen Kerry put together much of a performance this year. Indeed, we have looked very lathargic,at times.Also, Cork have decent scoring forwards and our full back line, to my somewhat untrained eye, looks ripe for the picking. I expect kerry to win by a couple but wouldn't be at all surprised if we were beaten. Moran,Gooch,Jameso,Darran to name just some who will be going into the fray with very little game time under their belts. Not something I like to see.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 24, 2015 20:33:07 GMT
The game is set up for Cork if they can get supply into their fullforward line. You would imagine Kerry will go about closing down these supply lines. As Darragh mentioned, winning the All-Ireland will be more about stopping franchise players.
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Post by skybluezone on Jun 24, 2015 23:34:16 GMT
My point is that a very good Cork team in 09-11 era still couldn't beat you in Killarney. You savaged this crew in the Pairc last year. You now have a more experienced and deeper panel than in 2014. Cork are probably worse, at least mentally. Handy win for your boys. Talking nonsense there Skyblue. Last year apart,Cork have consistently put it up to kerry,in Killarney and in the páirc,with far worse teams than the one that will travel on Sunday week. I expect it to be a very tight game. Cork have nothing to lose and will go at it from the off. Allied to that,apart from 10 minutes against a division 3 team, I haven't seen Kerry put together much of a performance this year. Indeed, we have looked very lathargic,at times.Also, Cork have decent scoring forwards and our full back line, to my somewhat untrained eye, looks ripe for the picking. I expect kerry to win by a couple but wouldn't be at all surprised if we were beaten. Moran,Gooch,Jameso,Darran to name just some who will be going into the fray with very little game time under their belts. Not something I like to see. This is total yerra. You have been tut tutting about this Cork team for 12 months, even Tomás called them out. Now your all talking doom and gloom, heard it all before, before the Tipp game actually, when they were the best thing to happen Munster football since god was a child. Only way they will trouble you is if complacency sets in, and to be fair you always take them seriously. But you cant say they have neen rubbish for a year and in the next breadth say they will give us hell. Sure you're the Champions for god sake.
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Post by fitz on Jun 25, 2015 5:35:14 GMT
Talking nonsense there Skyblue. Last year apart,Cork have consistently put it up to kerry,in Killarney and in the páirc,with far worse teams than the one that will travel on Sunday week. I expect it to be a very tight game. Cork have nothing to lose and will go at it from the off. Allied to that,apart from 10 minutes against a division 3 team, I haven't seen Kerry put together much of a performance this year. Indeed, we have looked very lathargic,at times.Also, Cork have decent scoring forwards and our full back line, to my somewhat untrained eye, looks ripe for the picking. I expect kerry to win by a couple but wouldn't be at all surprised if we were beaten. Moran,Gooch,Jameso,Darran to name just some who will be going into the fray with very little game time under their belts. Not something I like to see. This is total yerra. You have been tut tutting about this Cork team for 12 months, even Tomás called them out. Now your all talking doom and gloom, heard it all before, before the Tipp game actually, when they were the best thing to happen Munster football since god was a child. Only way they will trouble you is if complacency sets in, and to be fair you always take them seriously. But you cant say they have neen rubbish for a year and in the next breadth say they will give us hell. Sure you're the Champions for god sake. Yes think that sums it up Sky. I'm finding it hard to believe that after 18 months, Cork will actually realise and smell what they've been shovelling and become reborn and deliver a brilliant performance. The key evidence does not support this. So then it is based on they have a good team, yes they have, and the equivalent of 'they can't keep turning in inept empty performances and someday soon'. I'd want to understand why not sooner. Yerra yada yada yada etc
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Post by donegalman on Jun 25, 2015 8:48:02 GMT
Very challenging points made by skybluezone, and a very good answer by fizwop. I dont know what to believe now.
Months ago, I thought that if Cork played Kerry in a league game in Croke park, they may have won it. Now they must be dreading the run in to a ghoulish time of the year for them. Facing kerry, back door and elimination, or facing kerry, quarters, facing kerry and then elimination. Checkmate as far as I would call it for them. You never know though.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Jun 25, 2015 8:49:55 GMT
Talking nonsense there Skyblue. Last year apart,Cork have consistently put it up to kerry,in Killarney and in the páirc,with far worse teams than the one that will travel on Sunday week. I expect it to be a very tight game. Cork have nothing to lose and will go at it from the off. Allied to that,apart from 10 minutes against a division 3 team, I haven't seen Kerry put together much of a performance this year. Indeed, we have looked very lathargic,at times.Also, Cork have decent scoring forwards and our full back line, to my somewhat untrained eye, looks ripe for the picking. I expect kerry to win by a couple but wouldn't be at all surprised if we were beaten. Moran,Gooch,Jameso,Darran to name just some who will be going into the fray with very little game time under their belts. Not something I like to see. This is total yerra. You have been tut tutting about this Cork team for 12 months, even Tomás called them out. Now your all talking doom and gloom, heard it all before, before the Tipp game actually, when they were the best thing to happen Munster football since god was a child. Only way they will trouble you is if complacency sets in, and to be fair you always take them seriously. But you cant say they have neen rubbish for a year and in the next breadth say they will give us hell. Sure you're the Champions for god sake. See the above info provided by KOT. It speaks for itself. Cork v Kerry games,as a rule, are close run things.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 25, 2015 11:07:32 GMT
Games in Killarney between the two have seen Kerry start quickly and then fade. 2011 and 2013 come to mind and a few more prior to that.
Surely Cork will realise they can't allow it to happen again.
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Post by kerryman22 on Jun 25, 2015 11:21:37 GMT
Lads a bit unfair that all stand tickets are going to the clubs.?What about all the loyal fans outside the county. I suppose they would say loyal fans should get season tickets... What is the story with getting tickets as a season ticket holder? I've read the T&C but it's not clear
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 25, 2015 11:27:17 GMT
I suppose they would say loyal fans should get season tickets... What is the story with getting tickets as a season ticket holder? I've read the T&C but it's not clear So you get your Season Ticket around Nov/Dec. Covers entry to all League games, not just Kerry games. Free entry to first Championship game, fiver off every game after unless it's the Munster Final or All-Ireland Final. Attend 60% or more of Kerry's games up to and including the Semi and you qualify for an All-Ireland ticket. Tickets are usually emailed to you in advance of Championship games.
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Post by glengael on Jun 25, 2015 11:40:15 GMT
Games in Killarney between the two have seen Kerry start quickly and then fade. 2011 and 2013 come to mind and a few more prior to that. Surely Cork will realise they can't allow it to happen again. 2007 was tight enough as well if I remember correctly. Cork's goals v Donegal in the League were well executed. You wouldn't need to be a tactical genius to know that such attempts might bear fruit on July 5th. Have "franchise" players replaced "marquee" players Kerrygold? Difficult to keep up with these new fangled phrases.....
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 25, 2015 12:02:26 GMT
Games in Killarney between the two have seen Kerry start quickly and then fade. 2011 and 2013 come to mind and a few more prior to that. Surely Cork will realise they can't allow it to happen again. 2007 was tight enough as well if I remember correctly. Cork's goals v Donegal in the League were well executed. You wouldn't need to be a tactical genius to know that such attempts might bear fruit on July 5th. Have "franchise" players replaced "marquee" players Kerrygold? Difficult to keep up with these new fangled phrases..... I'm just keeping up with the Jones glengael, or should I say the O Ses!
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