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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 26, 2015 21:18:15 GMT
Monaghan good comeback. Clare hurlers an ongoing carcrash but slow enough that Davy hangs on. Not good sledging weather............... Clare car crash in the hurling? I would say that any team who loses 5 of their best players in the space of 2 years and goes into play a rival with aspirations of the All Ireland themselves is going to find it very tough. Imagine the Dubs heading into play Mayo or something with McCauley, Cooper, B. Brogan, Paul Flynn & Diarmaid Connoly missing from their 2013 team. Fair point but regardless, I stand by what I said. I've watched Clare closely the last few years. It was always going to be a massive challenge for them dealing with that win in 2013. Everything that could go wrong since has gone wrong. It all points towards an ongoing and possible irreversible decline from a position where greatness was possible
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Post by glengael on May 27, 2015 9:39:10 GMT
It's the 2nd album syndromw. How you deal with success and build on it is what marks out the great from the good in any area of life.
As you've said Rashers, everything that can go wrong has gone wrong for them since 2013. They have unbelievable talent at underage level. Yes I know that it's not a guarantee at senior level but it sure as hell helps in hurling with the smaller pool of potential champions. You'd have to think that if it's managed properly they can be competitive again. They need to make a decent run in the qualifiers this year and get back some of those who were absent last Sunday.They were one bad late wide away from getting a draw last Sunday.
How are the Dubs shaping up for Sunday?
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Post by kerrygold on May 27, 2015 17:50:27 GMT
GAA history: Female official to referee men's inter-county Championship game Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - 03:17 PM Cavan’s Maggie Farrelly will make history on Sunday when she referees the meeting of Fermanagh and Antrim in Brewster Park.
It will be the first time a female referee has taken charge of a men's inter-county championship match.
Farrelly, who graduated from Letterkenny IT with a degree in Business in Sports Development and Coaching in 2011, started out officiating in Ladies Football.
In 2006 she was asked to help out in the men’s game in Cavan as there was a shortage of referees in the county.
In 2014 Farrelly, whose club is Laragh United, was chosen to act as a sideline official in Croke Park as then All-Ireland champions Dublin faced Kerry in the National League Division One.
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Post by kerrygold on May 27, 2015 17:51:20 GMT
Pressure on McQuillan now if Maggie becomes the top ref in Cavan.
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Post by southward on May 27, 2015 17:54:08 GMT
She couldn't be worse.
What odds Brolly comes out with something stupid about it ?
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Post by Ard Mhacha on May 27, 2015 18:34:12 GMT
Pressure on McQuillan now if Maggie becomes the top ref in Cavan. If McQuillan was the only ref in Cavan, he still wouldn't be the top ref in Cavan. To be honest though, he's no worse than any other refs out there.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 27, 2015 20:56:23 GMT
It's the 2nd album syndromw. How you deal with success and build on it is what marks out the great from the good in any area of life. As you've said Rashers, everything that can go wrong has gone wrong for them since 2013. They have unbelievable talent at underage level. Yes I know that it's not a guarantee at senior level but it sure as hell helps in hurling with the smaller pool of potential champions. You'd have to think that if it's managed properly they can be competitive again. They need to make a decent run in the qualifiers this year and get back some of those who were absent last Sunday.They were one bad late wide away from getting a draw last Sunday. How are the Dubs shaping up for Sunday? It's worse than 2nd album even. Davy has done nothing to help progress the squad really, nothing that has worked. The lost players in some of the cases are down to him too. I think DUblin are keeping a nice low profile and shaped up very well in the league overall, but I fear a massive performance from Galway, they owe us one. SHould be some game and that game should be the main event on the double bill, poor form to have it on first. Also football crowd would stay after football
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Post by kerrygold on May 28, 2015 8:30:59 GMT
Dubs under pressure to move out of Croke Park next season Martin Breheny
There has been criticism, including from Longford manager Jack Sheedy, of Dublin's privileged position as permanent residents in Croke Park but Leinster Council chairman, John Horan said that it was a matter solely for the counties. "All the counties are represented on Leinster Council and it's they who make the decisions on fixtures and venues. It's very straightforward and democratic. "If the majority vote to take Dublin out of Croke Park next year, it will happen. But, so far, they have not voted that way," he said. A crowd of around 30,000 is expected in Croke Park for Sunday's Dublin-Galway and Dublin-Longford hurling and football championship double-header. Irish Independent
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Post by buck02 on May 28, 2015 9:40:07 GMT
GAA history: Female official to referee men's inter-county Championship game Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - 03:17 PM Cavan’s Maggie Farrelly will make history on Sunday when she referees the meeting of Fermanagh and Antrim in Brewster Park. It will be the first time a female referee has taken charge of a men's inter-county championship match. Farrelly, who graduated from Letterkenny IT with a degree in Business in Sports Development and Coaching in 2011, started out officiating in Ladies Football. In 2006 she was asked to help out in the men’s game in Cavan as there was a shortage of referees in the county. In 2014 Farrelly, whose club is Laragh United, was chosen to act as a sideline official in Croke Park as then All-Ireland champions Dublin faced Kerry in the National League Division One. Strange one. I found this on the Summer Talk thread: Football Championship Referees Panel 2015 Ciaran Branagan (Down) Barry Cassidy (Derry) David Coldrick (Meath) Maurice Deegan (Laois) Marty Duffy (Sligo) David Gough (Meath) Rory Hickey (Clare) Pádraig Hughes (Armagh) Seán Hurson (Tyrone) Fergal Kelly (Longford) Eddie Kinsella (Laois) Conor Lane (Cork) Patrick Neilan (Roscommon) Anthony Nolan (Wicklow) Cormac Reilly (Meath) Joe McQuillan (Cavan) Pádraig O’Sullivan (Kerry) Derek O’Mahoney (Tipperary) No sign of her on that list.
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Post by donegalman on May 28, 2015 10:21:09 GMT
GAA history: Female official to referee men's inter-county Championship game Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - 03:17 PM Cavan’s Maggie Farrelly will make history on Sunday when she referees the meeting of Fermanagh and Antrim in Brewster Park. It will be the first time a female referee has taken charge of a men's inter-county championship match. Farrelly, who graduated from Letterkenny IT with a degree in Business in Sports Development and Coaching in 2011, started out officiating in Ladies Football. In 2006 she was asked to help out in the men’s game in Cavan as there was a shortage of referees in the county. In 2014 Farrelly, whose club is Laragh United, was chosen to act as a sideline official in Croke Park as then All-Ireland champions Dublin faced Kerry in the National League Division One. I predict a lot of black cards on sunday so!
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Post by kerrygold on May 28, 2015 16:37:25 GMT
GAA history: Female official to referee men's inter-county Championship game Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - 03:17 PM Cavan’s Maggie Farrelly will make history on Sunday when she referees the meeting of Fermanagh and Antrim in Brewster Park. It will be the first time a female referee has taken charge of a men's inter-county championship match. Farrelly, who graduated from Letterkenny IT with a degree in Business in Sports Development and Coaching in 2011, started out officiating in Ladies Football. In 2006 she was asked to help out in the men’s game in Cavan as there was a shortage of referees in the county. In 2014 Farrelly, whose club is Laragh United, was chosen to act as a sideline official in Croke Park as then All-Ireland champions Dublin faced Kerry in the National League Division One. I predict a lot of black cards on sunday so! The stats and analysis will be interesting alright.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 28, 2015 16:52:41 GMT
GAA history: Female official to referee men's inter-county Championship game Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - 03:17 PM Cavan’s Maggie Farrelly will make history on Sunday when she referees the meeting of Fermanagh and Antrim in Brewster Park. It will be the first time a female referee has taken charge of a men's inter-county championship match. Farrelly, who graduated from Letterkenny IT with a degree in Business in Sports Development and Coaching in 2011, started out officiating in Ladies Football. In 2006 she was asked to help out in the men’s game in Cavan as there was a shortage of referees in the county. In 2014 Farrelly, whose club is Laragh United, was chosen to act as a sideline official in Croke Park as then All-Ireland champions Dublin faced Kerry in the National League Division One. I predict a lot of black cards on sunday so! I don't get it.
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Post by Mickmack on May 28, 2015 20:05:52 GMT
By John Fogarty GAA Correspondent
Cork footballer Jamie O’Sullivan has been cleared to play against Clare in the Munster SFC semi-final on June 14 after GAA authorities deemed he had no case to answer arising from an incident in last month’s Division 1 final.
After Padraig Hughes had taken no action, it had been expected the Bishopstown man would be served with at least a proposed retrospective one-match ban for his challenge on Diarmuid Connolly in the first half of the league decider in Croke Park. However, the Cork County Board have confirmed they received no such correspondence from the Central Competitions Control Committee.
The news is likely to anger Dublin who felt O’Sullivan should have been sent off after his elbow seemingly made contact with Connolly’s face. Last week, former Dublin footballer Ciarán Whelan lashed out at the silence following the incident: “I wonder what has come of the Jamie O’Sullivan incident in the league final when he took out Diarmuid Connolly with a dangerous challenge?
“I wonder would the incident have gone away if Connolly was the perpetrator? For some reason I doubt it very much.”
However, Wexford hurling boss Liam Dunne told The Irish Examiner last week the video evidence wasn’t proof enough to hand down O’Sullivan a proposed ban: “You saw Jamie O’Sullivan highlighted for elbowing Diarmuid Connolly. I can’t actually see him hitting him in the jaw. If it was me, I would be going to my barrister to show that I didn’t actually hit him.”
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Post by Mickmack on May 28, 2015 20:07:23 GMT
I have to say that I find it amazing that Jamie OSullivan got away with this. What king of message is it sending out. Connolly saw the elbow coming and limited the damage.
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Post by skybluezone on May 28, 2015 20:18:29 GMT
So if Liam Dunne thinks video evidence is not a high enough standard of proof, what exactly would suffice to prove an offence has been committed. Witness statements and a cautioned interview perhaps!
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Post by Mickmack on May 28, 2015 20:24:46 GMT
There is no distinction in the rules between striking and attempting to strike, It quite possible that Liam Dunne doesn't know the rules.
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Post by kerrygold on May 28, 2015 20:30:23 GMT
Frank Murphy must be alive and well?
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Post by sullyschoice on May 28, 2015 20:33:11 GMT
Another joke from HQ.
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Post by kerrygold on May 28, 2015 20:35:37 GMT
Tomas O'Se has often been done for a lot less.
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Post by fitz on May 28, 2015 22:30:11 GMT
By John Fogarty GAA Correspondent Cork footballer Jamie O’Sullivan has been cleared to play against Clare in the Munster SFC semi-final on June 14 after GAA authorities deemed he had no case to answer arising from an incident in last month’s Division 1 final. After Padraig Hughes had taken no action, it had been expected the Bishopstown man would be served with at least a proposed retrospective one-match ban for his challenge on Diarmuid Connolly in the first half of the league decider in Croke Park. However, the Cork County Board have confirmed they received no such correspondence from the Central Competitions Control Committee. The news is likely to anger Dublin who felt O’Sullivan should have been sent off after his elbow seemingly made contact with Connolly’s face. Last week, former Dublin footballer Ciarán Whelan lashed out at the silence following the incident: “I wonder what has come of the Jamie O’Sullivan incident in the league final when he took out Diarmuid Connolly with a dangerous challenge? “I wonder would the incident have gone away if Connolly was the perpetrator? For some reason I doubt it very much.” However, Wexford hurling boss Liam Dunne told The Irish Examiner last week the video evidence wasn’t proof enough to hand down O’Sullivan a proposed ban: “You saw Jamie O’Sullivan highlighted for elbowing Diarmuid Connolly. I can’t actually see him hitting him in the jaw. If it was me, I would be going to my barrister to show that I didn’t actually hit him.” Did the Examiner deliberately go find someone/anyone with an intercounty profile to simply deflect from the fact that O'Sullivan should be given his due medicine? I find myself thinking wtf relevance does his opinion have that would be worth more than even mine. Quotes like that don't help his consistent plea that he didn't deliberately injure Limerick's Kirby in 96 final
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Post by kerryexile on May 29, 2015 7:29:26 GMT
GAA history: Female official to referee men's inter-county Championship game Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - 03:17 PM Cavan’s Maggie Farrelly will make history on Sunday when she referees the meeting of Fermanagh and Antrim in Brewster Park.
It will be the first time a female referee has taken charge of a men's inter-county championship match.
Farrelly, who graduated from Letterkenny IT with a degree in Business in Sports Development and Coaching in 2011, started out officiating in Ladies Football.
In 2006 she was asked to help out in the men’s game in Cavan as there was a shortage of referees in the county.
In 2014 Farrelly, whose club is Laragh United, was chosen to act as a sideline official in Croke Park as then All-Ireland champions Dublin faced Kerry in the National League Division One. Strange one. I found this on the Summer Talk thread: Football Championship Referees Panel 2015 Ciaran Branagan (Down) Barry Cassidy (Derry) David Coldrick (Meath) Maurice Deegan (Laois) Marty Duffy (Sligo) David Gough (Meath) Rory Hickey (Clare) Pádraig Hughes (Armagh) Seán Hurson (Tyrone) Fergal Kelly (Longford) Eddie Kinsella (Laois) Conor Lane (Cork) Patrick Neilan (Roscommon) Anthony Nolan (Wicklow) Cormac Reilly (Meath) Joe McQuillan (Cavan) Pádraig O’Sullivan (Kerry) Derek O’Mahoney (Tipperary) No sign of her on that list. Maggie Farrell is refereeing the minor match. These are senior referees.
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Post by buck02 on May 29, 2015 11:31:00 GMT
Strange one. I found this on the Summer Talk thread: Football Championship Referees Panel 2015 Ciaran Branagan (Down) Barry Cassidy (Derry) David Coldrick (Meath) Maurice Deegan (Laois) Marty Duffy (Sligo) David Gough (Meath) Rory Hickey (Clare) Pádraig Hughes (Armagh) Seán Hurson (Tyrone) Fergal Kelly (Longford) Eddie Kinsella (Laois) Conor Lane (Cork) Patrick Neilan (Roscommon) Anthony Nolan (Wicklow) Cormac Reilly (Meath) Joe McQuillan (Cavan) Pádraig O’Sullivan (Kerry) Derek O’Mahoney (Tipperary) No sign of her on that list. Maggie Farrell is refereeing the minor match. These are senior referees. Thanks - no mention in the report that it was the minor game she was taking charge of.
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Post by Jigz84 on May 29, 2015 11:40:00 GMT
Deegan is over the Senior game.
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Post by kerrygold on May 30, 2015 8:29:48 GMT
Dara Ó Cinnéide: Jack Sheedy will be a popular man as minnows enter battle Saturday, May 30, 2015By Dara Ó Cinnéide Longford manager Jack Sheedy is unlikely to opt for an ultra defensive formation when his charges attempt a giant-killing act against Leinster champions Dublin in Croke Park tomorrow.
We’re trying hard/To make something of what we have/We’ll never amount/ To anything [from ‘Before We Forgot How to Dream, Soak’s debut album released this weekend]
While trying to make the best of what they’ve got as they take on Tipperary and Dublin respectively, Waterford and Longford must surely know their place in the food chain this weekend.
We can bellyache all we want about the inherent inequities in the provincial championship at this time of year but there are worse things going on.
Given all the revelations and allegations of corruption in FIFA, it’s been a bad few days for sport so it’s not entirely days of wine and roses at the top end of food chain either.
The Uruguayan writer, Eduardo Galeano, who died last month, loved football for its ability to survive corruption and maladministration.
Long before Sepp Blatter became the behemoth he is today and light years before Raheem Sterling began wrangling over his 100k a week contract, Galeano was pouring scorn on such people and such behaviours.
“Professional football,” Galeano said, “does everything to castrate that energy of happiness, but it survives. And maybe that’s why football never stops being astonishing. As a friend says, that’s the best thing about it – its stubborn capacity for surprise.
"The more the technocrats programme it down to the smallest detail, the more the powerful manipulate it, football continues to be the art of the unforeseeable.
"When you least expect it, the impossible occurs: the dwarf teaches the giant a lesson, and a scraggy, bow-legged black man makes an athlete sculpted in Greece look ridiculous.”
It would have been interesting to hear Galeano’s views on the Munster and Leinster football championships. Where is the capacity for surprise and the art of the unforeseeable in Semple Stadium and Croke Park this weekend?
It is quite obvious from speaking with football folk in Waterford this week, that they see themselves as the longest of long-shots as they head up to Thurles (6/1 is what the bookies say) and even the language being used by their manager, Tom McGlinchey, is that of a man scrambling for the highest rock away from the rising tide.
You know you’re in trouble when a manager starts reflecting on the league. But so it was with McGlinchey: “We could have very easily won those three games. There was only a kick of the ball in all of them.
"The positive thing to take out of it is that we didn’t give up in any of the games. The attitude and application was excellent. Even in the games where we knew we were mathematically out of it, we tried new players and gave us food for thought for the championship.”
These are the things that all managers must convince their players of at this time of yearwhatever the reality.
The reality for Waterford is that unless Tipperary have taken a backward step, the Déise, smarting from a flurry of punches in the league, are about to walk into a haymaker this weekend. Tipperary are a good few steps ahead of most lower tier sides in terms of hunger and ambition.
Their selection - with Ciarán McDonald back in the fold and the likes of Colin O’ Riordan, Steven O’Brien and Michael Quinlivan emerging as some of the best young footballers in the country these past 24 months - is as strong as it has been at any time in recent years.
Were it not for two away defeats to the sides who got promoted from Division 3, Armagh and Fermanagh, Tipperary would be playing their league football in Division 2 next season.
Their last competitive game against relegated Wexford can be discounted because they would have known at that stage that there was no promotion on the cards and thus an experimental side featured none of O’ Brien, O’ Riordan, Comerford, McDonald, Austin, Quinlivan and Fox, all of whom will have key roles tomorrow.
Tipperary were always a different championship proposition and remember that this was the side who blew Laois out of the water when going ten points up in the first half of last year’s 3rd round qualifier game, and who put 17 points on Longford the previous week.
All they are missing is a small bit of consistency and that sprinkling of belief which a good run at U21 level is bound to have given them.
Longford appear to have recovered well from that mauling in July and face into Croke Park with only that league final defeat against Offaly as the one blip on their chart since.
They did manage to avenge that defeat where and when it mattered, in championship football a fortnight ago, but, like the Christians facing the lions, they will be under no illusions heading into their very own damnatio ad bestias in the colosseum tomorrow.
The ancient Romans considered this practice a spectacle but the lopsided Leinster Championship hasn’t been much fun since Meath put five goals past Dublin five years ago.
It is highly unlikely that Jack Sheedy will set up his team to play a game that they have never played or practised at high intensity so, while we can expect Longford to have some sense of defensive responsibility, they have neither the will nor the wherewithal to engage in a tactical game that might frustrate Dublin.
At all times in his writing, Eduardo Galeano was “trying to reveal or help to reveal the hidden greatness of the small, of the little, of the unknown - and the pettiness of the big.”
Before they forgot how to dream, footballers in counties like Longford and Waterford knew an awful lot about the hidden greatness of the small, the little and the unknown.
There was a time when they could face into a championship game full of hope that they might expose the fallibility and the pettiness of the big.
Now their cause seems impossible and almost hopeless.
There could be an awful lot of prayers said to Saint Jude in Waterford and Longford this weekend.
KEYWORDS: Longford manager, Jack Sheedy, Longford v Dublin, Saint Jude
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Post by kerrygold on May 31, 2015 16:26:05 GMT
Today's game renders the whole Dubs Park thing farcical in front of 20,000 people or so.
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Post by donegalman on May 31, 2015 18:01:37 GMT
I could only watch that game today for 20 minutes. I dont think it makes any difference where the dubs play so long as their opposition is the longfords and the wicklows of this world. Some class scoring in the first 20 though, the dubs are looking very slick.
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Post by kerrygold on May 31, 2015 19:03:25 GMT
I could only watch that game today for 20 minutes. I dont think it makes any difference where the dubs play so long as their opposition is the longfords and the wicklows of this world. Some class scoring in the first 20 though, the dubs are looking very slick. Thats not the point, this game was a non event for everyone in Croker today. The Dubs would beat a combined rest of Leinster team by a comfortable 10 points plus. Agree, the Dubs look slick, Brian Fenton looks very comfortable at midfield on the ball. You still have the suspicion, with the injury to O'Gara, that Dublin don't have a blue chip ball winner on the fullforward line. Their defence won't be tested in Leinster. They will arrive soft for a quarter final in August.
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Post by Mickmack on May 31, 2015 19:27:43 GMT
Sooner or later they will have to combine counties to give a population of 120k or 130k to pick from. Longford have 40k. Cavan and Monaghan last week have populations of 70k and 60k. In other words, Cavan and Monaghan have the same population as Kerry.
And eventually, they will have to split up Dublin.
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Post by Mickmack on May 31, 2015 19:30:19 GMT
Podge Collins sustained a cruciate knee injury while playing hurling with his club on Saturday.
The Cratloe clubman suffered the injury in the reigning champions' Clare SHC first round defeat to Ballyea.
Collins is expected to be out of action for the rest of the inter-county season as a result.
He will miss the Banner County's Munster SFC semi-final clash with Cork on June 14.
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Post by donegalman on May 31, 2015 22:02:02 GMT
Aye Kerrygold, I know it is probably going to happen out of principle, the inevitable move of dublin from croke park for a single game. I do get the point, but the result will be the same. I am for dublin moving out of croke park for a game, but there could be bigger changes in the post than that especially if leinster continues the way it is. It is no good for the game nor for any team in it including dublin. Joyless.
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