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Post by Mickmack on Mar 3, 2015 22:19:04 GMT
skybluezone Lets pretend that you are Jim Gavin and you are picking the Dublin team to play Kerry in the 2015 All Ireland Final. You have a full panel and everyone is fit and on form.
What 15 would you go withGood question Mickmack. My pick would be something like this 1. Cluxton 2. McMahon (if he stops acting the maggot and is banned from crossing the halfway line 3. O'Carroll 4. Cooper 5. McCarthy 6. O'Sullivan 7. McCaffrey 8. McAuley 9. Carthy (if he continues to improve) otherwise I'd give Brady a shot at it. 10. Flynn 11. Alan B (or Kilkenny if Alan walks away) 12. Connolly 13. Kev Mc (alternate with O'Gara depending on opposition). 14. Bernard 15. Andrews. Probably won't be Jim Gavin's though as he tends to stick with the man in possession of the jersey. One or two posters suggested earlier that Dublin's much vaunted "best panel in Ireland" has been shown to be a fallacy. Fair comment. But if you take away the best, or should I say, most influential five from any team, it will be much weaker. Cluxton, MDMA, Flynn, Connolly, Alan B and Bernard B all missing (Bernard with his first half of football all year). It's the other ten that would be pretty much interchangeable, although they won it in 2013 without Alan B kicking a ball. So take the 3 O'Se's, Gooch and Declan O'Sullivan out of the best recent Kerry teams and they would have won four or five All Irelands? Seriously doubt it. Going to Cork (haven't won there in decades) and get beaten by a point with a team of max 4 realistic starters in a best 15, and going to Kerry with max 5/6 starters, with the natives seriously looking to "lay down a marker" and getting beat by two in a blizzard, is not the end of the world by any means, and shouldn't add weight to the "Dubs useless out of Croker" theory. Lazy analysis I would suggest. Said it earlier, Kerry deserved to win, if only for there point kicking into the wind in 2nd half. Our lads are not dead yet though. A good bit has changed for Kerry and Dublin since that semi final of 2013 in relation to midfield. David Moran came on as a sub un that game. He is in top form now. Maher is developing into a Paul OConnell like figure for Kerry. Johnny Buckley has cut it since then. Donaghy is always an option at midfield for 10 mins and Bryan Sheehan is another although you never know when an injury will flare up. On the other hand Dublin have McAuley, Cian oSullivan, Bastick and Flynn. Bring Flynn out removes an offensive threat. Tomas Brady is a dual player...he can hardly do both at this level. If anything happens to McAuley or he loses form Dublin midfield will be weak enough I think unless O;Connaighle the son of the man from Inis Oirr cuts the mustard. Has your man from Vincemts retired..... the guy that all the fuss was over about the transfer .... the name wont come to me now
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Post by ansúilleabhánach on Mar 4, 2015 0:20:54 GMT
Great assessment totheleftaguswide. Without wishing to sound too smug about the place, it's the likes of this impartial analysis, that the forum throws up more often than not, that keeps me coming back!
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Post by fitz on Mar 4, 2015 0:38:45 GMT
Good question Mickmack. My pick would be something like this 1. Cluxton 2. McMahon (if he stops acting the maggot and is banned from crossing the halfway line 3. O'Carroll 4. Cooper 5. McCarthy 6. O'Sullivan 7. McCaffrey 8. McAuley 9. Carthy (if he continues to improve) otherwise I'd give Brady a shot at it. 10. Flynn 11. Alan B (or Kilkenny if Alan walks away) 12. Connolly 13. Kev Mc (alternate with O'Gara depending on opposition). 14. Bernard 15. Andrews. Probably won't be Jim Gavin's though as he tends to stick with the man in possession of the jersey. One or two posters suggested earlier that Dublin's much vaunted "best panel in Ireland" has been shown to be a fallacy. Fair comment. But if you take away the best, or should I say, most influential five from any team, it will be much weaker. Cluxton, MDMA, Flynn, Connolly, Alan B and Bernard B all missing (Bernard with his first half of football all year). It's the other ten that would be pretty much interchangeable, although they won it in 2013 without Alan B kicking a ball. So take the 3 O'Se's, Gooch and Declan O'Sullivan out of the best recent Kerry teams and they would have won four or five All Irelands? Seriously doubt it. Going to Cork (haven't won there in decades) and get beaten by a point with a team of max 4 realistic starters in a best 15, and going to Kerry with max 5/6 starters, with the natives seriously looking to "lay down a marker" and getting beat by two in a blizzard, is not the end of the world by any means, and shouldn't add weight to the "Dubs useless out of Croker" theory. Lazy analysis I would suggest. Said it earlier, Kerry deserved to win, if only for there point kicking into the wind in 2nd half. Our lads are not dead yet though. A good bit has changed for Kerry and Dublin since that semi final of 2013 in relation to midfield. David Moran came on as a sub un that game. He is in top form now. Maher is developing into a Paul OConnell like figure for Kerry. Johnny Buckley has cut it since then. Donaghy is always an option at midfield for 10 mins and Bryan Sheehan is another although you never know when an injury will flare up. On the other hand Dublin have McAuley, Cian oSullivan, Bastick and Flynn. Bring Flynn out removes an offensive threat. Tomas Brady is a dual player...he can hardly do both at this level. If anything happens to McAuley or he loses form Dublin midfield will be weak enough I think unless O;Connaighle the son of the man from Inis Oirr cuts the mustard. Has your man from Vincemts retired..... the guy that all the fuss was over about the transfer .... the name wont come to me now Eamonn Fennell Mick I'd be a little wary of hard coding the Dublin team's lifeblood to the marquee aces you've named. They have to likelihood to produce seriously improved players as the year progresses, like we are getting from Jack an Pa and Stephen O. I'm not saying you in any way as particular but collectively I feel a lot of us are doing our Sam Maguire sums with salivating zeal based on the volume of players in form, emerging and coming back from injury. It definitely is very positive and exciting, but with all the good vibes, Dublin and Mayo will provide momentous challenges in Championship. Personally I think the three are a bit ahead of all the rest at the moment. Just my perspective on it..
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Post by jackeensabhog on Mar 4, 2015 20:10:51 GMT
Good question Mickmack. My pick would be something like this 1. Cluxton 2. McMahon (if he stops acting the maggot and is banned from crossing the halfway line 3. O'Carroll 4. Cooper 5. McCarthy 6. O'Sullivan 7. McCaffrey 8. McAuley 9. Carthy (if he continues to improve) otherwise I'd give Brady a shot at it. 10. Flynn 11. Alan B (or Kilkenny if Alan walks away) 12. Connolly 13. Kev Mc (alternate with O'Gara depending on opposition). 14. Bernard 15. Andrews. Probably won't be Jim Gavin's though as he tends to stick with the man in possession of the jersey. One or two posters suggested earlier that Dublin's much vaunted "best panel in Ireland" has been shown to be a fallacy. Fair comment. But if you take away the best, or should I say, most influential five from any team, it will be much weaker. Cluxton, MDMA, Flynn, Connolly, Alan B and Bernard B all missing (Bernard with his first half of football all year). It's the other ten that would be pretty much interchangeable, although they won it in 2013 without Alan B kicking a ball. So take the 3 O'Se's, Gooch and Declan O'Sullivan out of the best recent Kerry teams and they would have won four or five All Irelands? Seriously doubt it. Going to Cork (haven't won there in decades) and get beaten by a point with a team of max 4 realistic starters in a best 15, and going to Kerry with max 5/6 starters, with the natives seriously looking to "lay down a marker" and getting beat by two in a blizzard, is not the end of the world by any means, and shouldn't add weight to the "Dubs useless out of Croker" theory. Lazy analysis I would suggest. Said it earlier, Kerry deserved to win, if only for there point kicking into the wind in 2nd half. Our lads are not dead yet though. As I suspected the Dubs are totally reliant on their older players with little change in their team. It will be difficult to maintain a winning formula throughout the remainder of the decade with small numbers of their underage golden generation coming through. I suspect if Brogan is held and Cluxton is frustrated Dublin will struggle. Time will tell of course.
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Post by jackeensabhog on Mar 4, 2015 20:27:50 GMT
I don't mean to point out the obvious, but how many minors and under 21 have Dublin won in the last five years. Add to that how competitive club football is in Dublin with any one of 5 teams all ireland contender and I don't think they need to worry about their stalwarts in the longterm.
Donaghy is a fine footballer, but it's his constant mouthing, instigating rows and feigning/diving that makes him so unlikeable. Everyone in Dublin knows mcmahon can be a bit of a toe rag, but kerry folk seem blind to donaghy's behaviour
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Post by baurtregaum on Mar 4, 2015 22:39:57 GMT
I don't mean to point out the obvious, but how many minors and under 21 have Dublin won in the last five years. Add to that how competitive club football is in Dublin with any one of 5 teams all ireland contender and I don't think they need to worry about their stalwarts in the longterm. Donaghy is a fine footballer, but it's his constant mouthing, instigating rows and feigning/diving that makes him so unlikeable. Everyone in Dublin knows mcmahon can be a bit of a toe rag, but kerry folk seem blind to donaghy's behaviour Agreed re Dublin. At the start of last year how many of us here could have predicted Paul Murphy's progress, for example. Or Crowley, Moran, etc and what they would do by September?. . Point is that Dublin have the talent and will be a force after Brogan, Cluxton, et al have retired. Leaders will emerge. They always do in Kerry so why not Dublin. Gavin will be happy with the performance given the talent missing, as others have pointed out. A game like sundays will bring on young players on both sides. I thought Kerry carried the ball into the tackle a lot in the first half but this seemed to be remedied after half time.
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Post by fitz on Mar 5, 2015 10:44:28 GMT
I don't mean to point out the obvious, but how many minors and under 21 have Dublin won in the last five years. Add to that how competitive club football is in Dublin with any one of 5 teams all ireland contender and I don't think they need to worry about their stalwarts in the longterm. Donaghy is a fine footballer, but it's his constant mouthing, instigating rows and feigning/diving that makes him so unlikeable. Everyone in Dublin knows mcmahon can be a bit of a toe rag, but kerry folk seem blind to donaghy's behaviour I don't believe we are jackeen, a number of called the thrash talk at O'Gara as out of order and especially unbecoming of a captain. I think there isn't a complete realization of just how much personal fouling he ships in a game especially with the high ball. Admittedly Gooch and JOD also ship heavy attention and have more composure in dealing with it. If he cleaned up the nothing what other areas of his behavior are in question given the man has the right to stand his ground and battle
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 5, 2015 11:47:19 GMT
Admittedly Gooch and JOD also ship heavy attention and have more composure in dealing with it... Add Moran to that --- he is unflappable.
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Post by jackeensabhog on Mar 5, 2015 14:47:33 GMT
It's a bit more than thrash talking. Plenty of forwards come in a for a bit of attention, witness Diarmuid Connolly or O'Gara for that matter, but Donaghy makes the most of it. What I find so distasteful, is Donaghy's diving or feigning injury to get lads booked. He dived last Sunday looking for penalty and I don't how many times over the years he's feigned injury looking for a booking. In 2006 munster final he got Anthony Lynch sent off when there was absolutely no contact. He rolled around on the ground like a bus had hit him. Frankly, its disgusting and should have no place in the game. I want to admire great sportsmen, but there's nothing sporting about that. Diarmuid Connolly got up after Michael Murphy punched him in last years semi final because he's an honest footballer, the same is not true of Donaghy.
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Post by glengael on Mar 5, 2015 19:42:20 GMT
Admittedly Gooch and JOD also ship heavy attention and have more composure in dealing with it... Add Moran to that --- he is unflappable. Well he might be unflappable. In his younger days, David honed his skills in what was a fairly competitive mid-field territory.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 5, 2015 20:20:29 GMT
A good bit has changed for Kerry and Dublin since that semi final of 2013 in relation to midfield. David Moran came on as a sub un that game. He is in top form now. Maher is developing into a Paul OConnell like figure for Kerry. Johnny Buckley has cut it since then. Donaghy is always an option at midfield for 10 mins and Bryan Sheehan is another although you never know when an injury will flare up. On the other hand Dublin have McAuley, Cian oSullivan, Bastick and Flynn. Bring Flynn out removes an offensive threat. Tomas Brady is a dual player...he can hardly do both at this level. If anything happens to McAuley or he loses form Dublin midfield will be weak enough I think unless O;Connaighle the son of the man from Inis Oirr cuts the mustard. Has your man from Vincemts retired..... the guy that all the fuss was over about the transfer .... the name wont come to me now Eamonn Fennell Mick I'd be a little wary of hard coding the Dublin team's lifeblood to the marquee aces you've named. They have to likelihood to produce seriously improved players as the year progresses, like we are getting from Jack an Pa and Stephen O. I'm not saying you in any way as particular but collectively I feel a lot of us are doing our Sam Maguire sums with salivating zeal based on the volume of players in form, emerging and coming back from injury. It definitely is very positive and exciting, but with all the good vibes, Dublin and Mayo will provide momentous challenges in Championship. Personally I think the three are a bit ahead of all the rest at the moment. Just my perspective on it.. I am not doing any salivating about Kerry winning Sam Maguire. I was having a discussion with skybluezone who seems to have left the premises (and where the hell is rashers) about what Dublins best 15 is and how things have changed since 2013 as regards midfield. My point is very focused on the engine room in the middle and that's where the 2011 final and the 2013 semi final were won and lost. When Sheehan and Maher ran out of legs, we didn't have Scanlon or Moran to come on in 2011. It should be possible to shoot the breeze on these specific points surely. For all of Dublin's flood of talent coming through, they are dependent on a relatively small few to win the midfield battle zone. Jack McCaffrey aint going to do that no matter how good he is and neither will Paul Mannion or players like that. In fact, Dublin may find the Mayo midfield too much for them if they meet in the semi final albeit there is no guarantee that Mayo can convert enough scores from play to make up for a dodgy fullback. However, if Mayo do solve their fullback dilemma, they could go all the way in 2015.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 21:09:01 GMT
It's a bit more than thrash talking. Plenty of forwards come in a for a bit of attention, witness Diarmuid Connolly or O'Gara for that matter, but Donaghy makes the most of it. What I find so distasteful, is Donaghy's diving or feigning injury to get lads booked. He dived last Sunday looking for penalty and I don't how many times over the years he's feigned injury looking for a booking. In 2006 munster final he got Anthony Lynch sent off when there was absolutely no contact. He rolled around on the ground like a bus had hit him. Frankly, its disgusting and should have no place in the game. I want to admire great sportsmen, but there's nothing sporting about that. Diarmuid Connolly got up after Michael Murphy punched him in last years semi final because he's an honest footballer, the same is not true of Donaghy. You are right, Connolly did not react to Murphy. Classy guy. Connolly prefers to get his retaliation in first especially off the pitch.
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Post by Jigz84 on Mar 5, 2015 21:18:07 GMT
Off with you jackeensabhog. Donaghy might be many things, but a dishonest footballer is not one of them. He caught a ball in the second half, fell to the ground, never looked for anything, ball broke to Barry John Keane and he popped it over.
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Post by hurlingman on Mar 5, 2015 21:24:19 GMT
I don't mean to point out the obvious, but how many minors and under 21 have Dublin won in the last five years. Add to that how competitive club football is in Dublin with any one of 5 teams all ireland contender and I don't think they need to worry about their stalwarts in the longterm. Donaghy is a fine footballer, but it's his constant mouthing, instigating rows and feigning/diving that makes him so unlikeable. Everyone in Dublin knows mcmahon can be a bit of a toe rag, but kerry folk seem blind to donaghy's behaviour Anyoneof 5 Dublin clubs All Ireland contenders? Funny how none of them are even in the All Ireland final... Thats the kinda BS id expect on HS or boards.ie.
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Post by jackeensabhog on Mar 5, 2015 21:40:02 GMT
I don't mean to point out the obvious, but how many minors and under 21 have Dublin won in the last five years. Add to that how competitive club football is in Dublin with any one of 5 teams all ireland contender and I don't think they need to worry about their stalwarts in the longterm. Donaghy is a fine footballer, but it's his constant mouthing, instigating rows and feigning/diving that makes him so unlikeable. Everyone in Dublin knows mcmahon can be a bit of a toe rag, but kerry folk seem blind to donaghy's behaviour Anyoneof 5 Dublin clubs All Ireland contenders? Funny how none of them are even in the All Ireland final... Thats the kinda BS id expect on HS or boards.ie.
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Post by jackeensabhog on Mar 5, 2015 21:40:52 GMT
Anyoneof 5 Dublin clubs All Ireland contenders? Funny how none of them are even in the All Ireland final... Thats the kinda BS id expect on HS or boards.ie.
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Post by jackeensabhog on Mar 5, 2015 21:58:50 GMT
Off with you jackeensabhog. Donaghy might be many things, but a dishonest footballer is not one of them. He caught a ball in the second half, fell to the ground, never looked for anything, ball broke to Barry John Keane and he popped it over. “I’ve seen him, everybody has. Against Dublin in the All-Ireland final three years ago, I had a good view of it. If I was a Dublin player that day, I’d have boxed him. ... ‘Ah, well he’s one of our own’, so you’d put up with it. But I’d say if you were from outside the bubble, you’d think different". Dara O'Cinneide writing for the Irish Times
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Post by fg on Mar 6, 2015 11:52:46 GMT
Anyoneof 5 Dublin clubs All Ireland contenders? Funny how none of them are even in the All Ireland final... Thats the kinda BS id expect on HS or boards.ie. Sure you should know hurlingman that posters like jackeen are interlopers from Boards.ie the same crowd that would have posted on the former forum site that was Reservoir of dogs, sorry Freudian slip there I ment dubs, a site for the ignorant and uneducated variety of Dublin supporter and now we have this gombeen coming on here making spurious allegations against star. If you peruse Boards.ie you will see a general hysteria and hatred towards star, nothing about members of their own team who eagerly engage in the dark arts and we all know who they are, the Dublin manager has some neck to be spouting the rubbish he came out with after the match, disingenuous to a fault, personally I don't think they expected the physicality of this Kerry team and as a result started to throw their toys out of the pram, very classy, so jackeen as the saying goes nothing to see here now move along like a good chap.
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Post by playitfair on Mar 6, 2015 11:59:20 GMT
lets move on from slagging players no matter what county they are from. It does not add anything to the forum IMO.
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Post by sinkthelead on Mar 6, 2015 12:42:38 GMT
lets move on from slagging players no matter what county they are from. It does not add anything to the forum IMO. Agreed, sometimes supporters of a county, especially younger supporters and some older ones tend not to put a moral slant on one of their own. It's hard to malign a hero on any day. Yet it's a whole lot easier to point the finger elsewhere, human nature I suppose! On Kerry- yiz are ticking along nicely for another go at Sam The makings of a good solid defence Probably the best MF on the country and a serious set of forwards on paper! All this from being written off in 12/13 On Dublin-after last years semi I wandered round town that night wondering have we seen the last of this current crop of dubs lifting silverware in sept? Boils down to 3 things for me Sort out the FB line ! Get tactics right ! Is the real hunger their ? If so roll on a titanic battle between us and yourselves should we both progress to meet and a little league final beforehand as a little teaser!
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 6, 2015 13:06:34 GMT
lets move on from slagging players no matter what county they are from. It does not add anything to the forum IMO. Agreed, sometimes supporters of a county, especially younger supporters and some older ones tend not to put a moral slant on one of their own. It's hard to malign a hero on any day. Yet it's a whole lot easier to point the finger elsewhere, human nature I suppose! On Kerry- yiz are ticking along nicely for another go at Sam The makings of a good solid defence Probably the best MF on the country and a serious set of forwards on paper! All this from being written off in 12/13 On Dublin-after last years semi I wandered round town that night wondering have we seen the last of this current crop of dubs lifting silverware in sept? Boils down to 3 things for me Sort out the FB line ! Get tactics right ! Is the real hunger their ? If so roll on a titanic battle between us and yourselves should we both progress to meet and a little league final beforehand as a little teaser! When I walk around Croke Park and see the sorry conditions some people are forced to live in and see how much it means for them to see Dublin do well...it is vital to the community, as it is to many rural communities, that Dublin do well. Many of the Dublin stars come from those same communities as opposed to the rugby stars who often went to the posh schools on the southside. Dublin needs the Dubs to do well and it lifts the county and the city. I hope we see Dublin in the final v Kerry and in Gavin Dublin have a very smooth operator. I hate it when people slag players or open personal attacks on players, supporters or other posters on fora. Especially when done online it is often a senseless anonymous attack and I fail to see the point in that. That said though players belong to the public and their performances are subject to positive and negative criticism. Brolly's attack on Cavanagh, for example, was very high profile and very public and also very personal. Brolly did not choose anonymity though and defended his statements very publicly as well. People on fora sometimes seem to think it is okay to launch personal attacks as well and are often driven by a personal vendetta. I find that very cowardly and unnecessary.
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Post by sinkthelead on Mar 6, 2015 13:20:00 GMT
Agreed, sometimes supporters of a county, especially younger supporters and some older ones tend not to put a moral slant on one of their own. It's hard to malign a hero on any day. Yet it's a whole lot easier to point the finger elsewhere, human nature I suppose! On Kerry- yiz are ticking along nicely for another go at Sam The makings of a good solid defence Probably the best MF on the country and a serious set of forwards on paper! All this from being written off in 12/13 On Dublin-after last years semi I wandered round town that night wondering have we seen the last of this current crop of dubs lifting silverware in sept? Boils down to 3 things for me Sort out the FB line ! Get tactics right ! Is the real hunger their ? If so roll on a titanic battle between us and yourselves should we both progress to meet and a little league final beforehand as a little teaser! When I walk around Croke Park and see the sorry conditions some people are forced to live in and see how much it means for them to see Dublin do well...it is vital to the community, as it is to many rural communities, that Dublin do well. Many of the Dublin stars come from those same communities as opposed to the rugby stars who often went to the posh schools on the southside. Dublin needs the Dubs to do well and it lifts the county and the city. I hope we see Dublin in the final v Kerry and in Gavin Dublin have a very smooth operator. I hate it when people slag players or open personal attacks on players, supporters or other posters on fora. Especially when done online it is often a senseless anonymous attack and I fail to see the point in that. That said though players belong to the public and their performances are subject to positive and negative criticism. Brolly's attack on Cavanagh, for example, was very high profile and very public and also very personal. Brolly did not choose anonymity though and defended his statements very publicly as well. People on fora sometimes seem to think it is okay to launch personal attacks as well and are often driven by a personal vendetta. I find that very cowardly and unnecessary. Brolly did that for no other reason than to further himself! But at least he put his name behind it unlike some keyboard warriors who like you say do it in a cowardly fashion And your right about the dubs We love our city We love our people We love our sport And we love the dubs And most of all we live playing Kerry And sometimes we get a chance to express it with rare wins over Kerry 11 was a huge lift for the city If we get our attitude and tactics right IMO no one can touch us Big if though
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 6, 2015 13:41:53 GMT
If Kerry don't make the final, but Dublin do I wouldn't mind seeing them win, it would be good for the city and the country and a strong GAA is good for Ireland in my opinion. The GAA creates self believe in you f people and generates money in this country. English soccer creates money abroad and given that few Irishmen play with the biggest clubs in the world gives a sense of superhuman ability to the top players. In my opinion there can't be many boys in Ireland believing they can be the new Messi or Ronaldo, but they can be the new Gooch or the new Connolly. Just like the current successes of the eggchasers lifts moral in the country a strong GAA does the same. Man U winning a title does little for Ireland. I can't see Mayo winning Sam, but I imagine the county will explode if they do. Just look at how much it did for Donegal; businesses are still building on it and it lifted the whole county. The self belief is back and young boys in the northwest now dream of being the next Murphy instead of doing well in soccer and maybe make the Celtic squad. I have nothing against "foreign games", and as a foreigner that would be ridiculous, but I do think that Irish heroes need to be promoted more. What kind if signal does it give to youngsters if all their heroes come from far away places and don't even speak the same language? It certainly leads to a sense of inferiority and in my opinion there is no shortage of that in Ireland as it is. Even the rugby players seem to have that wee voice in the back of their heads that they can win a few games, but are still not the best in the world. To win a World Cup they must fully believe that they are and that they are impossible to beat. It would give Ireland a huge boost if the rugbyers can get a Grand Slam just like it gives any county a lift if their footballers lift Sam.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 6, 2015 13:56:03 GMT
When I walk around Croke Park and see the sorry conditions some people are forced to live in and see how much it means for them to see Dublin do well...it is vital to the community, as it is to many rural communities, that Dublin do well. Many of the Dublin stars come from those same communities as opposed to the rugby stars who often went to the posh schools on the southside. Dublin needs the Dubs to do well and it lifts the county and the city. I hope we see Dublin in the final v Kerry and in Gavin Dublin have a very smooth operator.
I hate it when people slag players or open personal attacks on players, supporters or other posters on fora. Especially when done online it is often a senseless anonymous attack and I fail to see the point in that. That said though players belong to the public and their performances are subject to positive and negative criticism. Brolly's attack on Cavanagh, for example, was very high profile and very public and also very personal. Brolly did not choose anonymity though and defended his statements very publicly as well. People on fora sometimes seem to think it is okay to launch personal attacks as well and are often driven by a personal vendetta. I find that very cowardly and unnecessary. ?
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Post by Derek on Mar 6, 2015 14:03:00 GMT
It's a bit more than thrash talking. Plenty of forwards come in a for a bit of attention, witness Diarmuid Connolly or O'Gara for that matter, but Donaghy makes the most of it. What I find so distasteful, is Donaghy's diving or feigning injury to get lads booked. He dived last Sunday looking for penalty and I don't how many times over the years he's feigned injury looking for a booking. In 2006 munster final he got Anthony Lynch sent off when there was absolutely no contact. He rolled around on the ground like a bus had hit him. Frankly, its disgusting and should have no place in the game. I want to admire great sportsmen, but there's nothing sporting about that. Diarmuid Connolly got up after Michael Murphy punched him in last years semi final because he's an honest footballer, the same is not true of Donaghy. You are right, Connolly did not react to Murphy. Classy guy. Connolly prefers to get his retaliation in first especially off the pitch. jackeensabhog this is definatly the type of guy we should be holding up as an example of how people carry themselves. www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/dubs-all-star-diarmuid-connolly-spared-jail-and-criminal-record-for-pub-attack-30699415.html
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Post by sinkthelead on Mar 6, 2015 15:28:16 GMT
Sure you should know hurlingman that posters like jackeen are interlopers from Boards.ie the same crowd that would have posted on the former forum site that was Reservoir of dogs, sorry Freudian slip there I ment dubs, a site for the ignorant and uneducated variety of Dublin supporter and now we have this gombeen coming on here making spurious allegations against star. If you peruse Boards.ie you will see a general hysteria and hatred towards star, nothing about members of their own team who eagerly engage in the dark arts and we all know who they are, the Dublin manager has some neck to be spouting the rubbish he came out with after the match, disingenuous to a fault, personally I don't think they expected the physicality of this Kerry team and as a result started to throw their toys out of the pram, very classy, so jackeen as the saying goes nothing to see here now move along like a good chap. ' when people tell you who they are that's who they are'A very I'll informed, biased, unintelligent post that goes against the ethos of the GAA family. There have been very few trolls and interlopers on this site just an occasional difference of opinion from people of other counties. Resorting to slagging off posters because their opinions differ to yours says more about you than the person you point at!
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Post by keane on Mar 6, 2015 15:45:37 GMT
boards.ie GAA forum is pretty grand.
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Post by fg on Mar 6, 2015 15:59:01 GMT
Sure you should know hurlingman that posters like jackeen are interlopers from Boards.ie the same crowd that would have posted on the former forum site that was Reservoir of dogs, sorry Freudian slip there I ment dubs, a site for the ignorant and uneducated variety of Dublin supporter and now we have this gombeen coming on here making spurious allegations against star. If you peruse Boards.ie you will see a general hysteria and hatred towards star, nothing about members of their own team who eagerly engage in the dark arts and we all know who they are, the Dublin manager has some neck to be spouting the rubbish he came out with after the match, disingenuous to a fault, personally I don't think they expected the physicality of this Kerry team and as a result started to throw their toys out of the pram, very classy, so jackeen as the saying goes nothing to see here now move along like a good chap. ' when people tell you who they are that's who they are'A very I'll informed, biased, unintelligent post that goes against the ethos of the GAA family. There have been very few trolls and interlopers on this site just an occasional difference of opinion from people of other counties. Resorting to slagging off posters because their opinions differ to yours says more about you than the person you point at! To uphold the integrity of this forum I wont engage in a riposte with you that will mirror forums previously mentioned by me but I will defend my right of opinion and do take exception to your amateur psychological assessment but engaging in counter transference is not a defence and does not mitigate against the substantive basis of my post, whilst I don't wish to sublimate, I do find it interesting that none of the posters who took umbrage at my ranting still do not acknowledge spurious allegations re: star. I will say no more on the matter.
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