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Post by G_S_J on Nov 3, 2014 16:59:05 GMT
Seems to be no thread for this, that or I am a blind fool. Corofin are favorites, with Stacks in fifth.
Corofin 2/1 St Vincents 5/2 St Brigids 8/1 Omagh 8/1 Austin Stacks 10/1 Cratloe 14/1
Fixture is also out for the Stacks, semi-final against Ballincollig, that will take place in Tralee on Sunday, November the 16th. I wonder will the Stacks chairman want it switched again after Sunday's result?
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 3, 2014 18:01:12 GMT
Munster Stacks v Ballincollig Cratloe v The Nire
Connacht Ballintubber v St. Bridgets Aughawillan v Corofin
Winners of Connacht have to play Tir Conall Gaels from Britain.
Leinster Rhode v O'Mahonys Rathnew v Moorefield Portlaoise v St. Vincents Garrycastle v Emmet Og Killoe
(Rhode v O'Mahonys) v (Rathnew v Moorefield) (Portlaoise v St. Vincents) v (Garrycstle v Emmet Og Killoe)
Ulster Glenswilly v Roslea Omagh v (Roslea v Glenswilly)
Cavan Gaels v Slaughtneil Clontibret v (Cavan Gaels v Slaughtneil)
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 3, 2014 18:08:27 GMT
Ulster looks wide open with a lot of new names.
Have to say I'm surprised Corofin are 2/1 favs. I think their big win in the Galway final said more about the poor standard of football in Galway than anything about how strong Corofin are overall.
Anyone know much about Ballincollig?
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Post by greengold35 on Nov 3, 2014 18:31:52 GMT
Cratloe will be dangerous given their performance last year plus the addition now of John Galvin, hurling may be their biggest obstacle. Reports from Cork are that this years championship was quite poor- Stacks should be good enough at home to progress. Ballintubber could be dangerous having ousted Castlebar , would not be backing Corofin even to win Connacht! Vincent's will be there or thereabouts again, winning is a habit.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 3, 2014 18:38:25 GMT
Stacks look good enough, based on the drawn and replayed final, to come out of Munster. Vincents and St. Brigids will be battle hardened in the other provinces. Clontibret are around a long time, while Omagh and Glenswilly should add greatly to the competitiveness of the Ulster championship.
It makes a lot of sense to try and finish this championship in the same calender year.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 3, 2014 18:55:12 GMT
A hungover Ballincollig beat Dingle in the final of the PO tournament.
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Post by rovingfullforward on Nov 3, 2014 19:27:20 GMT
Cratloe v Stacks Munster Final.
I'm very surprised to see Corofin favourites especially ahead of Bridgets.
What's the Semi-Final line-up? Munster v Ulster & Leinster v Connaught?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 19:45:02 GMT
Cratloe v Stacks Munster Final. I'm very surprised to see Corofin favourites especially ahead of Bridgets. What's the Semi-Final line-up? Munster v Ulster & Leinster v Connaught? That's correct. Id go for Stacks v Omagh and Ballintubber v St Vincents
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 3, 2014 19:58:09 GMT
St Eunans beat Glenswilly and which frees up Murphy up for Aussie rules duty. Eunans are young yet and might struggle vs the Omagh team I saw taking The Cross'. Venue will determine support, when and where will the Ulster vs Munster semi be played? The GAA site is seriously lacking in this respect and it was also strange that RTE Sports News on Sunday evening had the hurling club results but not the football. For anyone interested I can tell you that Donegal believe they have unfinished business with us and I cannot see beyond the same 4 semi finalists in '15, with Munster vs Ulster; I have booked passage and pad already. While Rory Gallagher is formidable, Gooch and Tommy should see us through, moreover with the younger talents we have and not all of who have been exposed in '14. Can you just imagine another debutante claiming MOTM? And Donaghy 2.0 only gets better; maybe the bible mixed up his return with the fell above who is also expected? Kieran was quiet emotional after the county final and it was the first time I heard him refer to his late dad's passing and which couldn't have been easy. Hopefully he got the support he needed and boy is he set to become some captain, a fitting reward for him as a reinvented player as well taking the bit as a leader, and that both on and off the field. He spoke of how as sub he was still mentoring younger fellas who may have been keeping him off the team, when he could have just sat it all out. That is what Kerry is all about, it takes serious emotional liathroidi to do things like that even under normal circumstances, many would have thrown in the towel and retired; it wasn't that history would forget him. And then look at his spectacular moments, goals and fielding vs Mayo, more goals in final. Can you just imagine him with Tommy, Gooch, JO'D and the others in the coming season? I think we, sorry they, will recover football.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 3, 2014 21:08:45 GMT
Munster Stacks v Ballincollig - Ballincollig Cratloe v The Nire - Cratloe
Ballincollig to win Munster
Connacht Ballintubber v St. Bridgets - Ballintubber Aughawillan v Corofin - Corofin
Corofin to win Connacht and beat Tir Conall
Winners of Connacht have to play Tir Conall Gaels from Britain.
Leinster Rhode v O'Mahonys - Rhode Rathnew v Moorefield - Moorefield
Portlaoise v St. Vincents - Vincents Garrycastle v Emmet Og Killoe - Garrycastle
(Rhode v O'Mahonys) v (Rathnew v Moorefield) - Moorefield (Portlaoise v St. Vincents) v (Garrycstle v Emmet Og Killoe) - Vincents
Vincents to win Leinster
Ulster Glenswilly v Roslea - Glenswilly Omagh v (Roslea v Glenswilly) - Omagh
Cavan Gaels v Slaughtneil - Slaughtneil Clontibret v (Cavan Gaels v Slaughtneil) - Clontibret
Clontibret to win Ulster
Ballincollig v Clontibret Corofin v Vincents
Vincents v Clontibret with Vincents to win
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Post by wideball on Nov 3, 2014 22:51:08 GMT
Portlaoise have flown Zach touhy home from Australia where he plays for carlton fc for the Vincent's game Cratloe have a great chance of winning club senior double
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 4, 2014 13:31:41 GMT
Hey givehimaball, St Eunan's beat Glenswilly.
And John Galvin's transfer makes him eligible to play for Cratloe.
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Post by lad on Nov 4, 2014 15:32:04 GMT
Cratloe have a hurling Munster semi-final this weekend so I give The Nire a chance against them especially as they are at home and they have a game behind them and I remember not so long ago that The Nire pushed Crokes all the way in a Munster Final. Stacks being at home is also a major advantage, it will be Ballincollig's first ever Munster Championship game and with so many young players, Stacks may hold the advantage in my opinion.
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Nov 4, 2014 15:54:26 GMT
Ulster is wide open. Difficult to know how good Omagh are, as Cross fell apart.
Clontibret look very defensive, tiredness could catch up on Eunan's, and don't know much about Cavan Gaels. I have a feeling Slaughtneil mightn't be far away.
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Post by buck02 on Nov 4, 2014 16:36:46 GMT
Ulster is wide open. Difficult to know how good Omagh are, as Cross fell apart. Clontibret look very defensive, tiredness could catch up on Eunan's, and don't know much about Cavan Gaels. I have a feeling Slaughtneil mightn't be far away. Is the Kildare hurler back with Cavan Gaels?
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Nov 4, 2014 19:01:00 GMT
Ulster is wide open. Difficult to know how good Omagh are, as Cross fell apart. Clontibret look very defensive, tiredness could catch up on Eunan's, and don't know much about Cavan Gaels. I have a feeling Slaughtneil mightn't be far away. Is the Kildare hurler back with Cavan Gaels? Yeah. Playing very well too from what I've heard.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 4, 2014 19:30:59 GMT
Despite having Colm Cooper etc, Crokes never had the defined game plan to go all the way. They conceded goals too easily and basically they didn't have the solid foundation of a good defensive system. Stacks are way better defensively in my opinion and this could carry them a long way. Not that their offensive game is lacking either.
Cratloe have about 1000 people in the parish and have won the double in Clare. Their win over the Waterford champs in hurling was high calibre stuff and its unlikely that they can win Munster in both. Ballincollig have just won their first ever Cork title (or their first in decades) so they may be happy with that deep down.
I wont be surprised if Stacks win out in Munster.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 4, 2014 19:31:51 GMT
Is the Kildare hurler back with Cavan Gaels? Yeah. Playing very well too from what I've heard. Kildare won the Christy Ring Cup... he lost out on a medal.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 5, 2014 6:15:31 GMT
Hey givehimaball, St Eunan's beat Glenswilly. And John Galvin's transfer makes him eligible to play for Cratloe. Swap Eunan's for Glenswilly in my mad predictions so. Overall there seems to be a lot less in the way of experienced teams at this stage compared to the last few years I did hear that the Cavan county championship wasnt up to much and Cavan Gaels have Canavan over them, who I wouldn't have much faith in as a manager, be very surprised if they were anyway involved in the serious business in Ulster.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 5, 2014 21:26:04 GMT
Lixnaw take on Bruff at 2pm in Austin Stacks Park next Sunday in the Munster Intermediate Championship.
Best wishes to them.
Two Patrickswell men at the helm. Ciaran Carey with Lixnaw and Gary Kirby with Bruff.
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Post by Jigz84 on Nov 6, 2014 12:26:32 GMT
Vincents still the team to beat unless Portlaoise catch them which I doubt. I don't see anything in Munster going all the way.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 9, 2014 16:25:32 GMT
15 teams left after today. Munster Stacks v Ballincollig Cratloe v The Nire Connacht Ballintubber v Corofin Winners of Connacht have to play Tir Conall Gaels from Britain. Leinster Rhode v Moorefield St. Vincents v Garrycastle Ulster Omagh v St Eunans Clontibret v Slaughtneil 8 from 8 on my predictions today
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Post by wideball on Nov 9, 2014 17:15:06 GMT
Corafin had a big win today scoring 7-20 who exactly have they does anyone know?
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Post by greengold35 on Nov 9, 2014 18:04:44 GMT
Corafin had a big win today scoring 7-20 who exactly have they does anyone know? Corofin only had 2 starters against Kerry in the 1/4 final- goalie Tomas Healy & wing forward Micheal Lundy- Gary Sice is also from Corofin.
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Post by wideball on Nov 9, 2014 19:22:52 GMT
Corafin had a big win today scoring 7-20 who exactly have they does anyone know? Corofin only had 2 starters against Kerry in the 1/4 final- goalie Tomas Healy & wing forward Micheal Lundy- Gary Sice is also from Corofin. Great team effort so or poor opposition
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 9, 2014 20:00:36 GMT
Cratloe won in the hurling today. Beat the Tipp champs.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 9, 2014 23:11:20 GMT
Cratloe won in the hurling today. Beat the Tipp champs. The Cratloe story is fantastic.
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Post by fitz on Nov 10, 2014 0:32:35 GMT
Cratloe won in the hurling today. Beat the Tipp champs. The Cratloe story is fantastic. Thurles had 14 for most of game, 15th man is popular tonight. Christ Leitrim football really is at a low ebb, county champs beaten by 21 more scores for a total of 35 points. Dreadful stat, even allowing the sparse population in the county
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 10, 2014 8:05:28 GMT
By Eoghan Cormican
Cratloe (Clare) 1-18 Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 0-14 The Thurles Sarfields substitutes had barely taken their seats when Denis Maher, head firmly rooted towards the floor, joined his colleagues in the main stand.
This Munster semi-final was seconds old when Maher swung wildly from the throw-in and caught the helmet of Liam Markham.
Referee Cathal McAllister didn’t hesitate, reaching for the back pocket to flash red.
Off went Maher and whatever chance Thurles Sarsfields had 15-on-15, their task was considerably stiffened minus the services of their in-form forward.
Maher had delivered an outstanding county final performance, hitting five points from play, and as Joe McGrath revealed afterwards, he was earmarked by Cratloe as the one player whose influence had to be curtailed.
Out the window went Thurles Sarsfields’ game-plan and playing into the elements in the first-half certainly didn’t aid their cause.
The two-man full-forward line of Lar Corbett and Conor Lanigan simply did not work and neither did the subsequent decision to leave Cratloe centre-back Conor Ryan as the free man.
Corbett, wholly ineffective throughout, was moved from one corner to the other, out the field and back in again.
Manager Tommy Maher’s early headache had developed into a severe migraine by the time McAllister called for half-time, 1-8 to 0-4 they trailed.
“It was always going to be a tough battle coming down to Ennis. Playing with 14 men made it a lot more difficult,” said Thurles Sarsfields selector Paddy McCormack. “The referee made a decision and I would have no comment to make on that. Whatever plans we had they had to change straightaway.”
For Cratloe, this fairytale season continues. Winning both codes in Clare was hailed as a “once in a lifetime achievement”, but the provincial double can no longer be dismissed as a pipedream.
With a first Munster club hurling final appearance nailed down, the footballers travel to Dungarvan next weekend to square off against The Nire.
“We are like kids in a sweetshop at the moment coming up to Christmas. We don’t know whether to turn left or to turn right, we are enjoying the situation. We don’t know when the shopkeeper is going to come and kick us out on the road,” chuckled manager Joe McGrath.
“Denis is a colossus of a man. To lose him in the first minute was a huge deficit for them to turnover. We took advantage of that. In fairness to our boys their heart is strong and when your heart is strong it will get you over the line.”
Cratloe struggled in the early exchanges to capitalise on their numerical advantage and trailed 0-3 to 0-2 on nine minutes, a superb Michael Cahill effort and a Tommy Doyle brace restoring confidence to the visitor’s endeavours. Thereafter arrived the contest’s crucial period, the Clare side scoring five unanswered points through Markham, Conor McGrath, Cathal McInerney and the Collins brothers, Sean and Podge.
McGrath twice hit the post during this spell and when set-up by Podge Collins on 19 minutes, ‘keeper Patrick McCormack produced an outstanding save to deny the corner-forward.
At the other end of the field, the Cratloe rearguard, anchored by Conor Ryan, Enda Boyce and David Ryan, hardly put a foot wrong — Sars’ starting front six registering just four points from player over the hour.
Pa Bourke’s free on 26 minutes heralded their first score in a quarter of an hour. The gap stood at three. It mattered not. The traffic flowed in only one direction. Sean Collins teed up a Liam Markham point in the subsequent action.
On the stroke of half-time, the Thurles wall collapsed. Conor McGrath supplied the delivery, Gearóid Considine cleverly batted down possession to the onrushing Podge Collins and the centre-forward escaped the clutches of Padraic Maher to flick to the net.
“They had the wind in the first-half and they made no inroads into us. We said at half-time if we could hold the seven-point lead we had we would see it out. We did just that,” continued McGrath.
Thurles desperately required a positive opening at the change of ends, but it was the outstanding pair of Markham and McGrath that continued to drive Cratloe forward — the latter hitting eight second-half points.
Pa Bourke’s accuracy from the dead ball ensured they never trailed off and three points on the hop entering the final quarter, two Bourke frees sandwiching a fine Billy McCarthy effort, reduced arrears to 1-15 to 0-13 — the closest Thurles would come of their opponents.
Cratloe, as you’d expect, had eased considerably on the throttle – minds already turning to the big ball.
McGrath, fittingly, concluded proceedings with three points, his final free of the afternoon awarded for a foul on Podge Collins. The centre-forward had shown a clean pair of heels to Ronan Maher and was dragged to the ground as he moved away from Padraic Maher.
Cratloe’s fitness, even at such a late stage, never faltered.
“I thought coming here that if we scored 1-12 or 1-13 we would be in with a right chance. To score 1-18 today after scoring only seven points against Ballygunner, it was a magnificent performance.”
“I never played in a Munster final at any level. The lads played in one last year and they have an appetite for more. Bring Kilmallock on.”
Scorers for Cratloe: C McGrath (0-11, 0-5 frees, 0-1 ’65); P Collins (1-2); L Markham (0-3, 0-1 free); S Collins, C McInerney (0-1 each).
Scorers for Thurles Sarsfields: P Bourke (0-8, 0-7 frees); T Doyle (0-2); B McCarthy, M Cahill, S Cahill, C Lanigan (0-1 each).
CRATLOE: G Ryan; S O’Leary, M Hawes, D Ryan; S Chaplin, C Ryan, E Boyce; L Markham, D Collins; S Gleeson, P Collins, S Collins; C McInerney, G Considine, C McGrath.
Subs: D Browne for Considine (36 mins), B Duggan for D Collins (55).
THURLES SARFIELDS: P McCormack; M Cahill, David Maher, S Maher; R Maher, P Maher, M Gleeson; S Cahill, Denis Maher; B McCarthy, A McCormack, L Corbett; C Lanigan, T Doyle, P Bourke.
Subs: R Ruth for A McCormack (38 mins), M O’Brien for T Doyle (43).
Referee: C McAllister (Cork).
Game-changer
Denis Maher had been the key man for Thurles Sarsfields in their run to a 33rd county championship title and his sending off less than a minute in robbed the visitors of their in-form forward.
Talk of the town
Cratloe’s fairytale run continues. Yesterday’s win marked their 12th in 16 Sundays. The club stand one hour away from a place in both Munster finals.
Did that just happen?
Aidan McCormack drilling wide from a placed ball 30 yards from goal in the 5th minute. A shocking miss by the Thurles Sarsfields centre-forward.
Best on show
Liam Markham was superb around the middle for Cratloe, but there was simply no stopping Conor McGrath in front of goal. The corner-forward finished with 0-11, Michael Cahill enduring a torrid afternoon in trying to keep tabs on the Cratloe ace.
Sideline superior
Thurles boss Michael Maher opted for a two-man full-forward line following Maher’s dismissal, but to no avail. The later decision to leave Conor Ryan as the free man in the Cratloe defence beggared belief as the centre-back hurled up a storm.
The man in black
Cathal McAllister correctly applied the rulebook when sending Maher to the line. Conor Ryan picked up a yellow card before the second half started though it was not clear what for.
What’s next?
Cratloe play Kilmallock in the Munster decider on November 23.
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Post by townend on Nov 10, 2014 11:39:02 GMT
i might put a sneak little bet on Rhode to win leinster not a word about them they have a very good forward line and a few county men in the back's.
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