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Post by animal on Oct 8, 2014 12:28:53 GMT
Going on the nominations I would expect it to be: Durcan Murphy McGee Higgins O Mahony Crowley McCarthy (the wildcard and need to get Dublins number up) Moran Gallagher Connolly O Shea Murphy O Connor Donaghy O Donoghue 6 Kerry, 4 Donegal, 3 Mayo and 2 Dublin would probably be the way it would be dished out. Whatever about getting Dublin's numbers up that's a reasonable selection. I'd have Colm Boyle at 7
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Post by buck02 on Oct 8, 2014 12:33:32 GMT
I had him there first too animal but 4 Mayo and 1 Dublin wont happen.
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Post by onlykerry on Oct 8, 2014 13:47:09 GMT
Going on the nominations I would expect it to be: Durcan Murphy McGee Higgins O Mahony Crowley McCarthy (the wildcard and need to get Dublins number up) Moran Gallagher Connolly O Shea Murphy O Connor Donaghy O Donoghue 6 Kerry, 4 Donegal, 3 Mayo and 2 Dublin would probably be the way it would be dished out. James O and Shane Walsh to get the player of the year awards. No disagreement with your selections but in the overall numbers I cannot see Kerry and Donegal getting 10 between them from the selection committee. Remember they are mostly media people (I think) and as far as they are concerned the two best teams did not make the final. Would expect Dublin to be "given" four All Stars as it was an aberration that caused this great team (going to do 5 in a row according to media pundits and League champs) lose to Donegal. Looking at historic selections 5 tends to be the number a new Kerry winning team gets but case can easily be made for more. Would not be shocked to see Cluxton get the nod for keeper - Durkan's final performance to come against him.
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Post by gaaloverkerry on Oct 8, 2014 13:54:53 GMT
BRIAN KELLY ----------- Clean sheets 2014
All ireland Final Munster Final Sigurdson Cup Final
Think its a joke He didnt even get nominated!!!
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 8, 2014 14:02:05 GMT
So the Kerry nominees are
Fionn Fitzgerald Paul Murphy Aidan O’Mahony Peter Crowley Anthony Maher David Moran Johnny Buckley Donnchadh Walsh Kieran Donaghy Paul Geaney James O’Donoghue
Looking at that I think that Brian Kelly has been fierce unlucky not to pick up a nomination.
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Post by kerryeye on Oct 8, 2014 14:28:38 GMT
This is what i would go with.
P. Durcan
P. Murphy, N. McGee, K. Higgins,
A. O’Mahony, P. Crowley, C. Boyle,
D. Moran, N. Gallagher,
D Walsh, M. Murphy, D. Connolly,
Paul Geaney, C McManus, J. O’Donoghue.
Ive said it here before but there is no way would I have Cillian O Connor on my all stars team.He will 100% get one though,but Ive put Geaney in on my team based 100% on performance and no bias. Michael Murphy should have been named in FF line,Donnacha Walsh deserves one and they could have put Murphy in FF line but they seem to be accomadating the big names in Donaghy and Murphy to get one I feel.Im not sure is Donaghy 100% deserving of one but will get it. Paul Flynn will prob get one and I'd have him on mine aswell but not ahead of the 3 I've named.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 8, 2014 15:15:37 GMT
The number of newish Kerry lads on the block is spectacular, All Stars would normally be fellas at their career peak, say 4 years into their inter-county careers, the remainder of ours are guys pretty much nearing the end of their tenure, what an unusual combination. I have a feeling though that we mightn't get so many because our panel is so balanced in terms of class with 20+ great players and which is why we probably prevailed against Mayo and Donegal who would each have say 10.
This is a vintage crop we have and having been a garsún through the 4 and in a row era I'm delighted that youngsters are now having the same feast. You will carry it with you through life and at times you will pay the price when others gang up on you in heated debate in the pub, etc. You will anger, despair, etc, but you will always be the only one smiling when the talking is done, they will have self-served sour grapes, cold turkey, etc and all because your presence upset them. Ah we're terrible, and worse we are getting, hopefully!
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 8, 2014 19:57:49 GMT
Donegal were poor all year, the Dublin game aside, looked flat footed, were set up defensively with no real obvious offensive teeth. They looked a pale shadow of the 2012 version and looked more like Donegal lite. Its debatable if Murphy had an All-Star year but the propaganda from the media will see him over the line.
Brian Kelly was not All-Star material this year, even if Darren thinks he should. Durkan should not get one for his howlers in the final coming on the back of a poor season for Donegal. Not doubt the media will see him over the line. Pound for pound Rory Beggan was right up there this year.
Kieran Donaghy has to get one simply because Sam would not be in Kerry in 2015 without his business end performances on the edge of the square.
My Kerry All-Stars, would be P. Murphy, Aidan, David Moran, JOD and Kieran Donaghy. Peter Crowley was superb for the Kerry at the business end and might get one also. It is debatable if Murphy and McHugh, pound for pound, had a better season than D. Walsh.
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Post by seamo on Oct 8, 2014 20:20:23 GMT
Even stranger that the Nominations reward the Ulster style of football more than any other Province with the Provincial breakdown - Ulster 16. Munster 13, Leinster 9 and Connaught 7. Does anybody have the basis on which nomination and selection is done? It's not really that strange. 3 of 8 quarter finalists were from Ulster, 2 from Munster, 2 from Connaught and 1 from Leinster.
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Post by cool1 on Oct 8, 2014 21:05:16 GMT
The team I think will be picked is: Durcan
Murphy McGee Higgins
O Mahony Crowley McGlynn
Moran Gallagher
Connolly Murphy Flynn
O Connor Donaghy O Donoghue
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Post by fitz on Oct 8, 2014 22:09:39 GMT
This is what i would go with. P. Durcan P. Murphy, N. McGee, K. Higgins, A. O’Mahony, P. Crowley, C. Boyle, D. Moran, N. Gallagher, D Walsh, M. Murphy, D. Connolly, Paul Geaney, C McManus, J. O’Donoghue. Ive said it here before but there is no way would I have Cillian O Connor on my all stars team.He will 100% get one though,but Ive put Geaney in on my team based 100% on performance and no bias. Michael Murphy should have been named in FF line,Donnacha Walsh deserves one and they could have put Murphy in FF line but they seem to be accomadating the big names in Donaghy and Murphy to get one I feel.Im not sure is Donaghy 100% deserving of one but will get it. Paul Flynn will prob get one and I'd have him on mine aswell but not ahead of the 3 I've named. Why such a strong view against Cillian O'Connor KEye?
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Post by kerryeye on Oct 8, 2014 22:46:32 GMT
This is what i would go with. P. Durcan P. Murphy, N. McGee, K. Higgins, A. O’Mahony, P. Crowley, C. Boyle, D. Moran, N. Gallagher, D Walsh, M. Murphy, D. Connolly, Paul Geaney, C McManus, J. O’Donoghue. Ive said it here before but there is no way would I have Cillian O Connor on my all stars team.He will 100% get one though,but Ive put Geaney in on my team based 100% on performance and no bias. Michael Murphy should have been named in FF line,Donnacha Walsh deserves one and they could have put Murphy in FF line but they seem to be accomadating the big names in Donaghy and Murphy to get one I feel.Im not sure is Donaghy 100% deserving of one but will get it. Paul Flynn will prob get one and I'd have him on mine aswell but not ahead of the 3 I've named. Why such a strong view against Cillian O'Connor KEye? I just dont think he did that much all year.He scored 1-12 from play all year and this includes a trip to New York, JOD would have accumaleted that alone against New york. I just feel he's being handed an easy All Star on the back of being top scorer of frees in the country.Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh on him but thats my opinion on him anyway.
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Post by keane on Oct 9, 2014 10:03:16 GMT
People tend to forget that someone is winning these frees in what's meant to be a comparatively poor forward line as well.
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Post by Premier on Oct 9, 2014 10:41:16 GMT
The team I think will be picked is: Durcan Murphy McGee Higgins O Mahony Crowley McGlynn Moran Gallagher Connolly Murphy Flynn O Connor Donaghy O Donoghue I think that'll be very close to the team picked, with maybe Colm Boyle in for McGlynn the only change
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 9, 2014 14:29:47 GMT
People tend to forget that someone is winning these frees in what's meant to be a comparatively poor forward line as well. Forwards don't really win frees in football - in the overwhelming majority of cases it's bad defenders and bad defending that give away frees.
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Post by keane on Oct 9, 2014 14:35:06 GMT
That's news to me, an interesting notion.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 9, 2014 21:20:55 GMT
I am perplexed at the notion that Brian Kelly doesn't deserve an allstar this year. Who else does? Hardly Durcan given what happened in the final. Kelly hardly put a foot wrong in fairness.
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Post by fitz on Oct 9, 2014 21:45:15 GMT
Why such a strong view against Cillian O'Connor KEye? I just dont think he did that much all year.He scored 1-12 from play all year and this includes a trip to New York, JOD would have accumaleted that alone against New york. I just feel he's being handed an easy All Star on the back of being top scorer of frees in the country.Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh on him but thats my opinion on him anyway. Fair enough. I think he's excellent. Only Brian pulled him back deftly he would have goaled in first match, won his own penalty in replay. He was a nuisance in both games, good on both feet too and very good winning his own ball. Shows food character in every game. In an average enough forward line he stood out in both epics with us, morn the first day. A shoe in for me
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 9, 2014 21:45:51 GMT
Dublin's 9 nominations for hammering Leinster cannon fodder is a bit much
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Post by fitz on Oct 9, 2014 21:46:51 GMT
"good" character obviously:) but food for thought on sending posts hastily
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Post by glengael on Oct 10, 2014 14:33:47 GMT
Kieran Donaghy won the Player of the Month for September. Don't know if thats any guide to the All Stars though.
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Post by Jigz84 on Oct 10, 2014 14:43:59 GMT
Kieran Donaghy won the Player of the Month for September. Don't know if thats any guide to the All Stars though. The July, August and September Player of the Month awards all went to Kerrymen. Could be a record since they started doing it.
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Post by Jigz84 on Oct 10, 2014 14:46:28 GMT
I just dont think he did that much all year.He scored 1-12 from play all year and this includes a trip to New York, JOD would have accumaleted that alone against New york. I just feel he's being handed an easy All Star on the back of being top scorer of frees in the country.Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh on him but thats my opinion on him anyway. Fair enough. I think he's excellent. Only Brian pulled him back deftly he would have goaled in first match, won his own penalty in replay. He was a nuisance in both games, good on both feet too and very good winning his own ball. Shows food character in every game. In an average enough forward line he stood out in both epics with us, morn the first day. A shoe in for me I think Paul Geaney did as much, if not more, than Cillian O'Connor to win an All-Star. He was second highest scorer from play behind James. He was the one who steadied the ship in Ennis, had a massive Sigerson campaign for UCC and did the job in the All-Ireland.
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Post by fitz on Oct 10, 2014 18:47:00 GMT
A very fair point indeed, he was quiet in second half of final, which probably slipped his radar status a little. I agree that he hasn't got near the deserved focus or recognition for his contributions. His point off his right foot in extra time was my point of the championship. A great lad to go with it too.
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Post by wideball on Oct 10, 2014 20:50:12 GMT
1.Rory Beggan 2.Keith Higgin 3.Neil McGee 4.Paul Murphy 5.Colin O'Riordan 6.Peter Crowley 7.Colm Boyle 8.Maher 9.Moran 10.Diarmuid Connolly 11.Michael Murphy 12.Shane Walsh 13.James O'Donoghue 14.Paul Geaney 15.Cillian O'Connor
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Post by fitz on Oct 10, 2014 22:48:00 GMT
Interesting Wide, Aidan surely can't miss out though.
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Post by wideball on Oct 11, 2014 1:33:09 GMT
True fitzwop he played very well in the semis and final, in for riordan ? Thats makes 7 all stars according to my selection doubt we would get that
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Post by skybluezone on Oct 11, 2014 20:16:47 GMT
Kieran Donaghy won the Player of the Month for September. Don't know if thats any guide to the All Stars though. The July, August and September Player of the Month awards all went to Kerrymen. Could be a record since they started doing it. Didnt take long for the anti Kerry media bias to disappear so! Or the anti Dub bias to resurface once Sam didnt stay in the Dublin! So far we've had Flynn shouldnt get one, that Connolly doesnt deserve one cos he only did it in club football. But Sigerson is fine as a barometer if its a Kerryman we are discussing! Oh and James McCArthy only got nominated to 'get the Dubs numbers up'. So its clear that league counts for zero, which i can live with but must be entitle them to a couple of noms? Sure they imploded so much they are hot favs to win in 2015. Interesting. And Cluxton is gone to pot altogether, shouldnt be near one!
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Post by fitz on Oct 11, 2014 21:07:51 GMT
The July, August and September Player of the Month awards all went to Kerrymen. Could be a record since they started doing it. Didnt take long for the anti Kerry media bias to disappear so! Or the anti Dub bias to resurface once Sam didnt stay in the Dublin! So far we've had Flynn shouldnt get one, that Connolly doesnt deserve one cos he only did it in club football. But Sigerson is fine as a barometer if its a Kerryman we are discussing! Oh and James McCArthy only got nominated to 'get the Dubs numbers up'. So its clear that league counts for zero, which i can live with but must be entitle them to a couple of noms? Sure they imploded so much they are hot favs to win in 2015. Interesting. And Cluxton is gone to pot altogether, shouldnt be near one! Think you have the blinkers on Sky. A lot of people as do I think Flynn and Connolly collect. McCarthy is a valid nomination too for sure. The goalkeeping award is turning into a bit of a farce but Cluxton had a torrid day against Donegal, so he has to be critiqued against it and against the high bar he himself has set.Kelly not even being nominated is beyond harsh. Given the hilarity surrounding the process of awarding this position it might be no harm to play last man back this year. Maybe the Mayo county board are managing the goalkeeping All Star award this year?
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 11, 2014 21:27:29 GMT
The July, August and September Player of the Month awards all went to Kerrymen. Could be a record since they started doing it. Didnt take long for the anti Kerry media bias to disappear so! Or the anti Dub bias to resurface once Sam didnt stay in the Dublin! So far we've had Flynn shouldnt get one, that Connolly doesnt deserve one cos he only did it in club football. But Sigerson is fine as a barometer if its a Kerryman we are discussing! Oh and James McCArthy only got nominated to 'get the Dubs numbers up'. So its clear that league counts for zero, which i can live with but must be entitle them to a couple of noms? Sure they imploded so much they are hot favs to win in 2015. Interesting. And Cluxton is gone to pot altogether, shouldnt be near one! Cluxtons's poor free kicking at the business end will cost him his All-Star this year in light of the errors by his main competitors and could potentially open the door for Rory Beggan, who coincidently contributed heavily on the score sheet for Monaghan from placed balls. A big challenge for Clucko to direct operations again from number 1 in 2015. The Dubs were flaky during the league while the Leinster championship resembles a bit of a stag party now for the Dubs, pissing their way through it, neither competition will hardly carry much collateral when the gongs are being banded about, apart of course from Cinderella who should be home by midnight on the night of the gongs.
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