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Post by buck02 on Jun 4, 2014 13:41:04 GMT
Looking through the transfer sanctions section on gaa.ie, I was unable to find any players from the Kenmare district on the list. Either none of those who emigrated to America for the summer have transferred club or the list is not up to date.
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Post by seamo on Jun 4, 2014 21:35:52 GMT
Milltown/Castlemaine won 11 points to 1-4 tonight against West Kerry.
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Post by sidelined on Jun 4, 2014 22:30:54 GMT
Kenmare should have been turfed out of the competition. amazing decision by the cccc. last year they turfed out st brendans minor footballers, kenmare would not have objected. problems in the district board over the last couple of years since their senior championship [finneagan cup ] was decided in the boardroom. the great pity is that the dingle/kenmare fiasco overshadowed a great opening weekend for the county championship. great wins for rathmore, shannon rangers and south kerry. crokes could have been vunerable in round 2 but draw was very kind to them
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Post by Jigz84 on Jun 6, 2014 9:58:47 GMT
4 points was a sorry attempt by West Kerry, missed the boat the first day. Kierans should take Legion now that O'Donoghue is out. Crokes to demolish Kenmare, Feale Rangers to beat Narries and toss-up between West Kerry and Kilcummin. Nice to see my prediction of East Kerry doing well getting off to a flyer!
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Post by sidelined on Jun 6, 2014 15:32:22 GMT
4 points was a sorry attempt by West Kerry, missed the boat the first day. Kierans should take Legion now that O'Donoghue is out. Crokes to demolish Kenmare, Feale Rangers to beat Narries and toss-up between West Kerry and Kilcummin. Nice to see my prediction of East Kerry doing well getting off to a flyer! why or is just coincidence that the 4 games are club v district. could it be a sign of things to come after review?.
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Post by diego on Jun 7, 2014 20:37:46 GMT
That was a great result for Legion tonight in Castleisland, 2-13 to 0-17.
St Kieran's the first team out of the championship this year.
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Post by desmondsman99 on Jun 7, 2014 21:55:19 GMT
That was a great result for Legion tonight in Castleisland, 2-13 to 0-17. St Kieran's the first team out of the championship this year. Losing last years manager Martin Horgan has proven to be a huge loss for the Kierans. He brought them to new heights, consistently getting the team to the latter stages of this competition. Going out in the first round only confirms the belief of many that Horgan did a huge amount with this team. Some will point to losing Currow, but thats 3 players at most missing. Not an excuse for the debacle of this years championship.
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Post by funuki on Jun 7, 2014 22:33:15 GMT
Agreed Horgan did bring a level of commitment and consistency to the team but at what cost,financial ruin?? Horgan had only 1 agenda and that was winning a county championship at all costs (no pun intended). He may have been good in the short term but from a long term point of view it was suicidal. Also it is a very unfair comparison between this years team and lasts as Kierans would have lost 5 or 6 of last years starting team due to currow going out on their own and players going to America. On top of all that the new management only had a few weeks to prepare whereas Horgan had at least 4 or 5 months in his first year. As for tonight Kierans struggled to cope with the legion forward line as they were afforded way too much space in comparison Kierans full forward line was crowded out mainly due to the amount of numbers legion got back. Although saying that its not often a team scores 17 points and gets beat.
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Post by sidelined on Jun 7, 2014 22:34:02 GMT
the fact is that st kierans put in a huge effort over the last couple of years and fell short. it would be hard to maintain that commitment without currow for this year. surely they would get more than 3 players out of a div 1 team
the year dingle blitz them with goals in the semi was their best chance, playing great football at the time but were probably looking at crokes in final and got caught on the hop.
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Post by keepitsimple on Jun 7, 2014 22:39:13 GMT
That was a great result for Legion tonight in Castleisland, 2-13 to 0-17. St Kieran's the first team out of the championship this year. Losing last years manager Martin Horgan has proven to be a huge loss for the Kierans. He brought them to new heights, consistently getting the team to the latter stages of this competition. Going out in the first round only confirms the belief of many that Horgan did a huge amount with this team. Some will point to losing Currow, but thats 3 players at most missing. Not an excuse for the debacle of this years championship. You havent a clue what you are talking about, St Kierans were without James Walsh, Eamon Kiely and Mike Coakley and Kieran Brennan from last weeks game (3 kerry juniors),Thomas Hickey played with a dead leg, Seamus Scanlon(former Kerry senior and all star winner), John Buckley (Kerry junior) and Dan O Sullivan from last years team, Kierans werent far off winning the game tonight despite these losses, Martin Horgan put in a lot of time and effort in his two years in charge,however he achieved nothing with St Kierans unless you count a massive debt as an achievement
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Post by desmondsman99 on Jun 8, 2014 9:01:16 GMT
Well ye fell for that one hook line and sinker. A bit of comic relief is just what this thread needed!
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Post by keepitsimple on Jun 8, 2014 9:44:12 GMT
Well you certainly had me going desmondsman99! I thought you were after turning into a terrible turncoat altogether!! It must be said though that while this years St Kierans set up was far from ideal, it gave the players a genuine break from all the nonsense that existed over the previous 2 years. I really felt that this sort of a break was needed. I forgot to mention earlier that Padraig Reidy going off injured was a huge blow to the Kierans. Its onwards and upwards in my opinion for next year. If Desmonds win the intermediate they will rightfully go senior, the Hickeys and Barry Lynch would be huge losses. However some exciting new young talents emerged this year in Counihan, O Shea, Finnegan, and Barry so from that point of view positives must be taken.
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Post by desmondsman99 on Jun 8, 2014 15:40:24 GMT
Well you certainly had me going desmondsman99! I thought you were after turning into a terrible turncoat altogether!! It must be said though that while this years St Kierans set up was far from ideal, it gave the players a genuine break from all the nonsense that existed over the previous 2 years. I really felt that this sort of a break was needed. I forgot to mention earlier that Padraig Reidy going off injured was a huge blow to the Kierans. Its onwards and upwards in my opinion for next year. If Desmonds win the intermediate they will rightfully go senior, the Hickeys and Barry Lynch would be huge losses. However some exciting new young talents emerged this year in Counihan, O Shea, Finnegan, and Barry so from that point of view positives must be taken. I would agree, a change was certainly needed from what had been going on the last few years. Denny Long has been unlucky, if Currow had gone senior and James Walsh had not gone to America then they would have beaten Legion last night handily enough, and probably beaten Mid Kerry(although Walsh did play against Mid Kerry). Scanlon, Eamon John, James Walsh, Johnny Buckley all integral players over the last few years were sorely missed.The Kieran's are a divisional side, and as much as the board try to make them out to be a club, they are not and never will be. The nonsense that went on the last few years had to stop, and it is just bad luck that that coincided with the loss of Currow. I would say that I found some selections strange to say the least however. Hickey getting a dead leg was just poor fortune. Oh well, atleast my own club still has championship interests!
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 8, 2014 18:37:16 GMT
The scoreboard suggests a tight game at Lewis Road, anyone there to report on the game? Croke's odds must be lengthening to win 5 in a row!
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Post by diego on Jun 8, 2014 19:16:20 GMT
2nd round results from the weekend:
St Kieran's 0-17 Legion 2-13
Dr Crokes 1-16 Kenmare 2-9
Kerins O' Rahilly's 1-11 Feale Rangers 1-16 AFTER EXTRA TIME (Rahilly's 1-9 Feale Rangers 0-12 at the end of normal time)
West Kerry 1-21 Kilcummin 4-12 AFTER EXTRA TIME (West Kerry 1-16 Kilcummin 3-10 at the end of normal time)
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Post by diego on Jun 8, 2014 19:26:44 GMT
Just heard the end of the extra time from the game in Castlegregory there on RnaG.
Aodhán MacGearailt got the only point of the 1st period leaving it 1-17 to 3-10.
A goal from Jamie O' Sullivan then mid way through the 2nd half of ET seemed to have sealed it for Kilcummin, but 3 late points from West Kerry including scores from Jason Hickson and James Crean tied it up again at 1-21 to 4-12. Kilcummin had a chance to win it with the last kick but it drifted wide meaning another day will be needed.
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Post by finuge86 on Jun 8, 2014 19:44:44 GMT
If currow beat st Brendan's at home which is possibility and kilcummin beat west kerry in the replay does this mean that kerins o'rahillys are relegated to intermediate as they lost in club championship first round lost two co championship games and wud have nobody left to play
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 8, 2014 20:45:44 GMT
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Post by diego on Jun 8, 2014 22:49:49 GMT
If currow beat st Brendan's at home which is possibility and kilcummin beat west kerry in the replay does this mean that kerins o'rahillys are relegated to intermediate as they lost in club championship first round lost two co championship games and wud have nobody left to play Was wondering that myself. Rahilly's might need a favour from their friendly neighbours in the St Brendan's set up to save their senior status...
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Post by diego on Jun 8, 2014 23:52:49 GMT
Report on the Crokes game here from the homepage.... www.kerrygaa.ie/news.php?item=1584&full=yDr Crokes 1-16 Kenmare 2-9 Both sides came to Lewis Rd attempting to redeem themselves following events of a different nature last weekend. Dr Crokes had lost a proud winning streak of 20 championship games in Rathmore while Kenmare District had failed to field in the first round. Both sides can feel happy enough with their displays. Dr Crokes, fielding just 8 of their All Ireland semi final team, while never reaching the heights of recent years, cruised to the third round with all their scores coming from play, while Kenmare District acquitted themselves very well given their lack of preparation. The winners got off to a fine start, going 5 points to 1 clear inside the opening 13 minutes with a succession of points, 3 from Chris Brady. We had to wait another thirteen minutes for a score however as Dr Crokes were guilty of some poor shooting while at the other end, Kenmare could make no inroads against a commanding Dr Crokes defence where John Payne was in fine form. Five minutes from the interval however, the game came to life Cian Hallissey set up Brian Crowley for a fine Kenmare goal, but straight from the kickout, Kieran O’Leary weaved his way through the Kenmare defence for a great individual goal. Alan O’Sullivan and Patrick Clifford exchanged points and Crokes led by 1-6 to 1-2 at the interval. Kenmare got a great start to the second half when, following a point from Stephen O’Brien, Cian Hallissey again set up Brian Crowley for a second goal to level the game with just two minutes gone in the new half. Kieran O’Leary and Cian Hallissey exchanged scores but then we saw 5 fine Dr Crokes points, all from play and from distance in a six minute spell with 4 coming from the boot of Kerry Minor Michéal Burns to put Crokes 1-12 to 2-4 clear. Kenmare kept plugging away in the final quarter and 3 pointed frees to 1 in reply left just a goal between the sides with nine minutes remaining,1-13 to 2-7. Kenmare had a number of wides that were to prove costly in the end as Tony Brosnan (2) and Burns again extended Crokes’ lead. To their credit Kenmare did not throw in the towel and between two points from Hallissey and Crowley, Kenmare had two goal bound shots from Steven O’Brien cleared off the goal line. Dr Crokes: Conor O’Loughlin, John Payne, Eoin Brosnan, Kieran Ward, Shane Myers, Fionn Fitzgerald, David O’Leary, Mike Milner (0-1), Alan O’Sullivan (0-1), Brian Looney (0-1), Michéal Burns (0-5), Kieran O’Leary (1-1), Gavin O’Shea, Tony Brosnan (0-3), Chris Brady (0-4). Subs: Ambrose O’Donovan for Gavin O’Shea and Andrew Kennelly for Milner. Kenmare: Steven O’Sullivan (Tuosist), Patrick Clifford (0-1, Templenoe), Tommy O’Sullivan (Kenmare), Daniel O’Neill (Templenoe), Kirean McCarthy (Templenoe), Gavin Crowley (Templenoe), Sean O’Leary (Kenmare), Sean Sheeahan ( 0-1, Tempenoe, Capt), Flor O’Sullivan (Tuosist), Alan O’Leary (Kenmare), Brian Crowley ( 2-1, Templenoe), John Rice (Templenoe), Cian Hallisey ( 0-3 fr, Templenoe), Liam O’Shea (Tuosist), Stephen O’Brien ( 0-3, 2fr, Kenmare). Subs: Teddy Doyle for Rice, Patrick O’Shea for K. McCarthy,
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 9, 2014 7:23:48 GMT
If currow beat st Brendan's at home which is possibility and kilcummin beat west kerry in the replay does this mean that kerins o'rahillys are relegated to intermediate as they lost in club championship first round lost two co championship games and wud have nobody left to play It's a possibility but improbable; Mitchels argued their case previously for not being demoted and retained their status; Rahillys are hardly an intermediate team albeit losing their two games in the championship- they won Div1 of the league last year and currently are top of Div 1 - they have been badly hit with injuries and emigration this year but have a young team who should improve as time goes on.
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Post by da Legionnaire on Jun 9, 2014 9:04:30 GMT
I don't think Rahillys can be relegated as things stand, even if Currow beat St. Brendans. I think a clubs senior status cannot be taken away from them if they have lost to divisional teams only.
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Post by glengael on Jun 9, 2014 9:32:54 GMT
I look forward to any eyewitness accounts of the weekend games.
Judging by the reports on Radio Kerry, Kenmare were denied a pretty clear penalty in the first half v Crokes. You'd wonder how the game might have panned out if they'd got it.
Any date yet for the West Kerry/ Kilcummin replay? Nice to see Aodhán MacGearailt in action still. He must be 35/36 at this stage.
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Post by sidelined on Jun 9, 2014 10:29:39 GMT
I don't think Rahillys can be relegated as things stand, even if Currow beat St. Brendans. I think a clubs senior status cannot be taken away from them if they have lost to divisional teams only. the review of the county championship was due out this month, issues like these should be addressed once and for all and no exception should be made for any team .senior championship, club championship and/or league status do they all come into it?. john mitchells played senior championship when they were in div 3! what if dingle are beaten in next round ?, they would have won no game in the county championship
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Post by finuge86 on Jun 9, 2014 12:21:07 GMT
Dingle won a game in the club championship before that use to save a side I don't no if that is still the case!! And it's not there fault kenmare didn't field they still progressed so in theory they won!! Also there would b no team there for kerins o rahillys to play in a playoff so why can't they b relegated?? Fair enough they got two tough draws and are too strong for intermediate but that's the luck of the draw!! If that's the case teams b arguing every year why should we go down in kerins o rahillys aren't sent down!! The Brendan's would b better off losing to currow in that case and would have o rahillys join them next year!!
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Post by sidelined on Jun 9, 2014 14:23:48 GMT
Dingle won a game in the club championship before that use to save a side I don't no if that is still the case!! And it's not there fault kenmare didn't field they still progressed so in theory they won!! Also there would b no team there for kerins o rahillys to play in a playoff so why can't they b relegated?? Fair enough they got two tough draws and are too strong for intermediate but that's the luck of the draw!! If that's the case teams b arguing every year why should we go down in kerins o rahillys aren't sent down!! The Brendan's would b better off losing to currow in that case and would have o rahillys join them next year!! u are totally correct, but what will the critea be for county championship for club teams? kerins o rahillys playing with ardfert cant u picture the training sessions if past games between the two are anything to go by!
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Post by diego on Jun 9, 2014 15:18:27 GMT
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 9, 2014 16:16:04 GMT
Dingle won a game in the club championship before that use to save a side I don't no if that is still the case!! And it's not there fault kenmare didn't field they still progressed so in theory they won!! Also there would b no team there for kerins o rahillys to play in a playoff so why can't they b relegated?? Fair enough they got two tough draws and are too strong for intermediate but that's the luck of the draw!! If that's the case teams b arguing every year why should we go down in kerins o rahillys aren't sent down!! The Brendan's would b better off losing to currow in that case and would have o rahillys join them next year!! There is a bigger picture here and it's to do with the promotion of our games and catering for our youth in a large urban area; Tralee's population is near 26000 people and Rahillys serve a huge catchment area; they provide the area with facilities & amenities from aged 6 upwards in both boys & girls and any diminution in their status would be detrimental to the club. The GAA is under fire on all fronts from other sports and must be concerned with emigration and the demise of rural clubs- if the likes of Rahillys could be deemed to be demoted due to some silly bye law then we need to wake up fast and address the real issues not some petty ones.
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Post by finuge86 on Jun 9, 2014 16:19:38 GMT
Dingle won a game in the club championship before that use to save a side I don't no if that is still the case!! And it's not there fault kenmare didn't field they still progressed so in theory they won!! Also there would b no team there for kerins o rahillys to play in a playoff so why can't they b relegated?? Fair enough they got two tough draws and are too strong for intermediate but that's the luck of the draw!! If that's the case teams b arguing every year why should we go down in kerins o rahillys aren't sent down!! The Brendan's would b better off losing to currow in that case and would have o rahillys join them next year!! u are totally correct, but what will the critea be for county championship for club teams? kerins o rahillys playing with ardfert cant u picture the training sessions if past games between the two are anything to go by! I presume u mean the club championship final between the two in 2009 haha think most of them are finished now to be honest!! Also I wouldn't rule out for an intermediate this year if they beat mitchels they will b shaping up well and hard to beat then!! I don't really no there is no rule set in stone for the club teams competing in co championship it's a complete the joke the county board seem to make up things as they go along!! I can't remember this ever happening at the same time where o rahillys will have nobody to play in a relegation playoff
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Post by finuge86 on Jun 9, 2014 16:23:13 GMT
Dingle won a game in the club championship before that use to save a side I don't no if that is still the case!! And it's not there fault kenmare didn't field they still progressed so in theory they won!! Also there would b no team there for kerins o rahillys to play in a playoff so why can't they b relegated?? Fair enough they got two tough draws and are too strong for intermediate but that's the luck of the draw!! If that's the case teams b arguing every year why should we go down in kerins o rahillys aren't sent down!! The Brendan's would b better off losing to currow in that case and would have o rahillys join them next year!! There is a bigger picture here and it's to do with the promotion of our games and catering for our youth in a large urban area; Tralee's population is near 26000 people and Rahillys serve a huge catchment area; they provide the area with facilities & amenities from aged 6 upwards in both boys & girls and any diminution in their status would be detrimental to the club. The GAA is under fire on all fronts from other sports and must be concerned with emigration and the demise of rural clubs- if the likes of Rahillys could be deemed to be demoted due to some silly bye law then we need to wake up fast and address the real issues not some petty ones. You can make the same argument for john mitchels in Tralee and have the best set up in county if not munster by a country mile!! Just because the town teams have more members more money leading to bigger and facilities doesn't mean they can't b relegated that doesn't make any sense at all!! It's not a by law either they won no game therefore they go down it's very simple
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