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Post by lessbull on Sept 4, 2007 9:39:29 GMT
Yeah, but this time around we actually got a tough test from Dublin in the semi, which should stand to us in the final. However, I do think Cork are a better team than Dublin and their backs have the ability to shackle our forwards better than Dublin's backs did. They are also better at midfield than Dublin - they destroyed a very good Meath midfield. It is usually their forwards that let them down. I hope Masters is back - he is far too greedy and tries to do it all on his own and I think he is quite over-rated. Against Meath, when Masters wasn't there to try and run the show, the other forwards played much better.
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 4, 2007 9:39:53 GMT
Mention was already given about the strange nature of this game. Cork v Kerry in an All Ireland final is certainly as odd as it is historic. I'm always confident of Kerry having the better of Cork but on this big day, who knows? I still fully maintain that Kerry have had the toughest route to this All Ireland. Corks toughest game was Kerry. After that we faced a dogged highly motivated Monaghan team and then a classy, well prepared, if overrated, Dublin team in Croke Park with 60,000 odd on our backs. The backs now look to have the bit between the teeth and the forwards the sniff of blood. Cork no doubt about have the beating of Kerry, but in Croke Park, on all ireland final day? I dont know. I'm sure Billy Morgan will have them foaming at the mouth on the day, but its nothing we havent come against before. Kerry hold most of the cards. If they play to there ability and throw in some of the heart they have shown thus far I think we will be mighty hard to defeat.
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Post by Owenabue on Sept 4, 2007 9:57:00 GMT
Tis all fine and well saying Cork are stronger than Dublin from 2 to 9, but are they are good as Kerry from 2 to 9?
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 4, 2007 10:02:49 GMT
Tis all fine and well saying Cork are stronger than Dublin from 2 to 9, but are they are good as Kerry from 2 to 9? Its fairly close. |
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Post by animal on Sept 4, 2007 10:27:50 GMT
The way the Cork forwards played without masters against Meath was impressive. A lot of lads took the game by the scruff of the neck. The likes of Donnacha OConnor will be very confident going into the final. He gave Reidy a hard time of it in Killarney and will fancy his chances of doing so again.
To get back to the topic, I'm slightly confident without being cocky or certain about it. We've a great chance to win this but there is a serious obstacle in our way. Put it this way we won't win by playing badly which has got us over the line before. We'll have to be on top of our game.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 4, 2007 15:00:31 GMT
In Jack O Connors book he says that he was at the Dublin v Mayo semi final and in the aftermath people were saying that it was the greatest game ever etc. He was delighted with this as the more this went on the more it put pressure on Mayo. Kerry are now in the same place as Mayo were last year after meeting Dublin.
By the way........ how did Mayo do in the final?
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 4, 2007 15:10:05 GMT
Different team.Comparing Mayo with Kerry is pointless. Mayo are proven bottlers, Kerry are proven winners. This isnt to say we will win the final, just that last year provides no blueprint for this year.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 4, 2007 15:12:30 GMT
Did i compare Mayo to Kerry?
Read my post again.
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 4, 2007 15:16:57 GMT
I think you'll find you did. In essence anyway, if not directly. What else could your post be referring to?
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Post by Paulie Walnuts on Sept 4, 2007 15:18:26 GMT
Did i compare Mayo to Kerry? Read my post again. You kinda did i'm afraid dude |
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Post by behindenemylines on Sept 4, 2007 15:22:05 GMT
Agree totally, that Cork are a better side than Dublin (and they don't have the over-whelming expectation millstone that the Jacks have to bear either). Wouldn't be remotely over-confident, but feel glad we're meeting them in the Final. Expect that Kerry will have the extra edge in terms of Final experience, the occasion will be more challenging to d rebels. Won't be much in it.
Make no mistake though, Cork are as riled up for this game as if each one has been personally affronted by the people of Kerry on a daily basis!! Up the Kingdom!
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 4, 2007 15:48:58 GMT
I expect Cork to play with the ferocity of Tyrone in 2003. Fire must be met with fire.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 4, 2007 16:07:21 GMT
Cork could be looking at back to back titles this time next year..........
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 4, 2007 16:28:19 GMT
I'd better get started on those 'People's Republic of Five in a Row' t-shirts.
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Post by Admin on Sept 4, 2007 16:28:38 GMT
Just to get a very Cork like opinion: Southern Star 1st September www.southernstar.ie/article.php?id=291SO, IT’S Kerry in the All-Ireland final. I would have preferred Dublin for the hype and excitement but it would have been impossible to get tickets. We are getting too familiar with Kerry but somebody asked me today if this would be the first ever final that didn’t fill Croke Park as no neutral has any interest in it. We’ll see, but tickets will definitely be easier to come by. Yes, Cork v. Kerry, the first ever final between two teams from the same province has an unique appeal about it but only to us Cork and Kerry people. How many southern football supporters would bother to attend an All-Ireland final between Armagh and Tyrone? As regards winning the game, I honestly believe we have a better chance of beating Kerry than Dublin. This Dublin team in the final would be so hungry and geared up for a win that they would probably steamroll right over us. Not so Kerry. They fully believe that they have a God-given right to beat Cork and that they will demolish us in Croke Park as they did for the past two years. That final is already won among Kerry supporters and that is bound to rub off on the players. Yes, Kerry are a class act when in full flight and nearly unstoppable. Their weakness is that they can only hit that form in patches, no more than fifteen minutes long, and are very vulnerable in between. What happened after that purple patch against Dublin at the start of the second half last Sunday when a great team would have killed off the game? They allowed Dublin back into it and the Dubs could have picked it in the end. What happened in Killarney after they had blitzed Cork in the opening quarter of the Munster final? They died away and had to rely on a foul tackle, not punished by the referee, to win the game in the end. Make no mistake, Kerry beat a good and very committed team in Dublin and must be given credit for that. However, that game will mean nothing when it comes to playing Cork as the Cork v Kerry relationship is a very unique one. Cork and Kerry know each other to the last letter and whichever team can come up with some new tactic on the day will probably win. Over the past few seasons we have seen Cork’s determination against Kerry’s class and there is absolutely nothing between the teams. I fully expect Cork to win this All-Ireland final but we will leave that to another day. there is a billy morgan size chip on the shoulder of that fella... |
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Post by joxerdaly on Sept 4, 2007 17:44:16 GMT
Brutal article. Factually inacurate to boot!! Cork will certainly be up for this but Kerry should have the beating of them. Bad enough to be beaten in the Semi, it would be even worse to have to listen to the Langers if they win.
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Post by ogie on Sept 4, 2007 18:53:29 GMT
all things been equal we will beat cork as we are a better team full stop,if cork are to win they will have to take all their chances and get the rub of the green from the ref, i know these games are all on the day , but in all honesty we are the better team.
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Post by Riocht on Sept 4, 2007 19:40:51 GMT
Tá'n diabhal ar fad ort a Mhickmac! Last time Limerick won the hurling Cork won the football - Last time Kilkenny won so did Kerry!
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Post by undercovereustace on Sept 4, 2007 21:02:43 GMT
I believe there is a confidence in the Kerry team that they are capable of pushing Cork all the way. And a brilliant counter-attack by austinstacksabu! For a few seconds he had the red brigade thinking that they were the reigning All-Ireland champions. Ah, give over fellas. You're only over-confident if you're not as good as you think you are. When you are as good as you think you are, you're certain. Confidence doesn't come into it. |
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 4, 2007 21:03:09 GMT
Both kerrys v corks all-ireland final day stats are identical,none played,none won,nothing conceded,nothing scored,no draws,no yellow cards,no red cards,neither manager booked for whinging,no subs used.
it will be a tough hoor of game in fairness,
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Post by Owenabue on Sept 4, 2007 21:06:09 GMT
Lads and ladies I posted up that article for the laugh. Seriously, it is the weekly paper in West Cork so it's not like the Irish Times tipped Cork.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 4, 2007 21:18:44 GMT
Ah, but every snippet of Cork blah will be used to urge Kerry on!!
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Post by Owenabue on Sept 5, 2007 8:21:13 GMT
Stacks, it's okay, Cork can use the Kerry Examiner for the same purpose.
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Post by buck02 on Sept 5, 2007 10:22:05 GMT
Kerry are 4/9 with Cork at 9/4.
I had a bit of Cork at 13/2 before the semi final against Meath so I'll be able to hedge a nice bit on Kerry with the certainty of a profit to cover the weekend.
Given the way the game is likely to be a battle, IF (not being over confident) Kerry win, Paul Galvin at 18/1 to be man of the match looks like a nice price. Nicholas Murphy at 14-1 and Ger Spillane at 22-1 could be the likely men if Cork win.
No goalscorer at 9/2 also looks like value.
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Post by Walter Mitty on Sept 5, 2007 16:33:14 GMT
Kerry are 4/9 with Cork at 9/4. I had a bit of Cork at 13/2 before the semi final against Meath so I'll be able to hedge a nice bit on Kerry with the certainty of a profit to cover the weekend. Given the way the game is likely to be a battle, IF (not being over confident) Kerry win, Paul Galvin at 18/1 to be man of the match looks like a nice price. Nicholas Murphy at 14-1 and Ger Spillane at 22-1 could be the likely men if Cork win. No goalscorer at 9/2 also looks like value. try e50 on Cork at 16/1 at the start of the year!! The problem is there is no value in hedging! Dont worry, I ll be cheering for the boys in green |
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 5, 2007 18:18:24 GMT
Should Cork win, what pub will you be in Walter, till we get a pint off ya!!
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 6, 2007 21:15:01 GMT
I am in Kerry at the moment.
I would describe the mood as nervous optimism
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Post by Roving Corner Forward on Sept 6, 2007 21:23:57 GMT
Saw the road to croker tonight. Niall cahalane seems very confident as well, he mentioned how the occasion might get to cork as well tho
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