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Post by buck02 on Dec 17, 2012 13:38:56 GMT
On Friday night a few of us were discussing the upcoming fight night in Killarney. It was generally agreed that it would be great if Paidi and Spillane faced each other in the ring. We all reckoned Paidi would win.
Then bang, the news filters through on Saturday morning and there was just a complete sense of numbness visible around Killarney. The terrible tragedy in America and Crokes All Ireland quarter final were shoved to the back of the mind.
That footage of Paidi walking on the beach in Ventry saying that Kerry football is the first thing he thinks of when he wakes up in the morning just summed him up.
The only consolation at the moment is all the wonderful memories and stories that have re-surfaced since his death.
RIP Paidi.
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Post by Laoch na hImeartha on Dec 17, 2012 14:11:34 GMT
On both Monday and Tuesday, stewards will be in place to direct parking and to aid mourners find a location to park safely.
We ask that mourners expect large delays and to be patient and follow the instruction of stewards in order to ensure a minimum of congestion.
A one way system will be in place both days and stewards will direct traffic accordingly. This will run west from Sear’s cross in Ventry village to Árd a’Bhóthair, north for 100 metres on the clasach road from Árd a’Bhóthair and turn east through Ráth Fhionnáin to Ventry again. If the event of significant congestion, traffic returning through Ráth Fhionnáin will be directed back towards Dingle via Baile an Eanaig rather than Ventry.
There will be a special set down and pick up area for elderly people and people with reduced mobility on both days, stewards will direct traffic to this area when informed of the requirement.
On Tuesday a special car park will be open to cater for the very large numbers expected, stewards will direct traffic to this car park. Mourners are asked to allow additional time in order to include for the delays due to this expected high volume of traffic.
Mourners are also reminded that as Árd a Bhóthair is a rural area, if they intend to arrive during darkness that they consider bringing a torch in order to aid their mobility as people may have to walk along unlit roads at times.
Funeral Arrngements are as follows:
Reposing at his home on Monday. Remains to arrive Ventry Church on Tuesday for 12 noon Requiem Mass and funeral afterwards to Reilig Caitlíona, Ventry. Family flowers only please.
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Post by Dermot on Dec 17, 2012 15:46:02 GMT
Cant believe it !! ..... Cant believe that another of those guys (especially him) has gone ... Feck it anyway !!
He is, and I guess will always be, a major memory from my childhood .. Which doesnt seem so long ago but it just shows you how little we get on this old sod !
RIP Paidi - Great footballer and a hardy hoor !!
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Post by glengael on Dec 17, 2012 17:35:21 GMT
Did anyone see a documentary last year on TG4 called Fearaibh Fionntra? A brilliant, simple documentary featuring men from Ventry in their fifties and sixties, including Paidi albeit briefly, talking about their health and lives. In the week that's in it, I think TG4 would be doing some service by repeating this documentary. It was great television and I do not think enough people saw it. I mentioned that series here when it was on last winter. It was a 4 parter and in one episode , there was indeed talk of life and health. Another episode covered the extraordinary amount of All Ireland medals won by the men of Ventry and all 6 O'Se's, uncles and nephews, spoke about the place they came from and the place of football in their lives. There were some lovely memories shared and witty stories told, which seem all the more poignant now. I would expect TG4 will do the decent thing and repeat it as soon as possible. As Kerrystar says, it deserves a very wide audience.
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Post by Corner Back on Dec 17, 2012 19:05:03 GMT
A tough man, a great footballer and a lightening rogue.
My first memory of Paidi is in the Autumn of 1985 when a knock came on the door of the classroom. I was just in Senior infants. Paidi arrived in with the Sam McGuire. He put Sam on my desk while he talked with the muinteoir. I felt special. It was then break time and Paidi took us out for "a few kicks" He passed the ball to me. Again I felt special. Im sure everybody else he passed the ball to also felt special. He had this way that anyone he met he was able to make them feel special. Twelve years later I met him in a local hostillery. Again he had Sam in the hand. He had a few words for me aswell as everybody else. Again I walked away feeling special.
Ambrose O'Donovan put it best at the weekend when he said "Paidi would give every drop of blood in his body for the green and gold" There was no lengths that he wouldnt go to. He just refused to lose.
Paidi felt sore the way he finished as Kerry manager. "We shall return our swords" But Paidi couldnt stay out of football for long. Westmeath called and Paidi answered. Again he won.
I dont remember Paidi in his playing days. One of my best memories is when he was managing Westmeath in an All Ireland Quarter Final. Kerry were playing in the second game that day. Westmeath lost. Paidi was walking towards the dressing room in the Cusack side. Not only did the Westmeath fans applaud him but also the Kerry crowd (and Im sure the others) Paidi smiled. People had their own opinions of him as a manager. But all appreciated what he had done, as a player, as a manager, as a motivator, as an ambassador and as a GAA man.
St. Peter may have been the first to greet Paidi on Saturday morning but Im sure Liam Higgins wasnt too far away from the gates. Kennelly and Egan also nearby. Their will be some stories told in the big house between them. West Kerrys loss is heavens gain.
RIP P OSe
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Dec 17, 2012 19:51:23 GMT
The image of Paidi used in the montage of sports people who passed away during the year, on last nights SPOTY on the BBC.
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Post by ballynamona on Dec 17, 2012 21:57:01 GMT
A tough man, a great footballer and a lightening rogue. My first memory of Paidi is in the Autumn of 1985 when a knock came on the door of the classroom. I was just in Senior infants. Paidi arrived in with the Sam McGuire. He put Sam on my desk while he talked with the muinteoir. I felt special. It was then break time and Paidi took us out for "a few kicks" He passed the ball to me. Again I felt special. Im sure everybody else he passed the ball to also felt special. He had this way that anyone he met he was able to make them feel special. Twelve years later I met him in a local hostillery. Again he had Sam in the hand. He had a few words for me aswell as everybody else. Again I walked away feeling special. Ambrose O'Donovan put it best at the weekend when he said "Paidi would give every drop of blood in his body for the green and gold" There was no lengths that he wouldnt go to. He just refused to lose. Paidi felt sore the way he finished as Kerry manager. "We shall return our swords" But Paidi couldnt stay out of football for long. Westmeath called and Paidi answered. Again he won. I dont remember Paidi in his playing days. One of my best memories is when he was managing Westmeath in an All Ireland Quarter Final. Kerry were playing in the second game that day. Westmeath lost. Paidi was walking towards the dressing room in the Cusack side. Not only did the Westmeath fans applaud him but also the Kerry crowd (and Im sure the others) Paidi smiled. People had their own opinions of him as a manager. But all appreciated what he had done, as a player, as a manager, as a motivator, as an ambassador and as a GAA man. St. Peter may have been the first to greet Paidi on Saturday morning but Im sure Liam Higgins wasnt too far away from the gates. Kennelly and Egan also nearby. Their will be some stories told in the big house between them. West Kerrys loss is heavens gain. RIP P OSe I enjoyed that cornerback. You are of my vintage, and your memory rang true. Very hard to believe Paidi is gone.
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Post by townend on Dec 17, 2012 22:02:20 GMT
hard to take in lads sad, my memory of him and first final to see him in was funny enough the 1982 final he kicked two of the best points that day in each half his second as i thought was the winner.
hardy Hoor is right Joe McNally of Dublin comes to mind 1985 final, he was love country wide the story of him before the munster final lets get theses cork hoors hit the ball off the ground and broke the light above him won't see the likes of him again, but then again i was bless to see the man.
R.I.P. Paidi i'd say theres some stories with the Horse and Johnny Egan going on up there tonight.
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Post by greengold35 on Dec 17, 2012 22:13:04 GMT
We all have our memories and mine are St Michaels College in 1973 when as a first year I heard the rumour that Paidi was coming to the college to finish his studies; after about a week it came true and he was a sight to behold running out of school with his duffle bag to head into the dressing rooms in Listowel where he would train until dark with Tim Kennelly, Jimmy Deenihan and sometimes Ogie Moran; even then he was special, strong, confident just different. He was on the first St Michaels team to win an O'Sullivan Cup where he had as team mates Robert Bunyan & Johnny Mulvihill; I heard Johnny on the radio yesterday and he said that Paidi had 5 O'Sullivan Cup medals! From then until his retirement he enthralled us, entranced us and led us to many famous victories- 1985 must have been so special for him and I would say too 1997- he was a hero in the truest sense of the word and our world is so much poorer for his passing at such an early age. -
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 17, 2012 22:55:15 GMT
There have been a few "renaissance" years in my lifetime following Kerry football .... I would say four in fact and Paidi was directly involved in three of them.
The first was 1975 in Killarney when Kerry beat a Cork team going for 3 in a row ....a great Cork team.
Seldom has the tension been greater that in Killarney that day and of course we had the Paidi v Dinny incident. John Moroney took their names and they shook hands. Moroney turned and ran away from the scene and Paidi ran after him and gave the ref three mighty claps on the back to say.."good man ref you did the right thing".
The next was 1978 when Kerry twarted Dublin 3 in a row bid. Paidi gave a good impression of the irrestible force and the immovable object that day.
The third of course was 1996 when as manager he finally slayed the Cork dragon.
(My 4th would be Jacks team of 2004)
Paidi didnt know me from adam but i did meet him twice and both were unforgettable.
The first was Dublin airport on the day after the 1997 final as the team waited to board the flight to Kerry.
I approached him and said thanks and asked him to pose for photes with the kids.... he obliged instantly. He asked me where i was from and grabbed by hand and gave me three claps on the back. He then danced a little jig with the music playing in his heart.
The next was while he was manager of Westmeath and it was midweek before they won their first Leinster title. He was having his dinner alone in the little snug in the bar and when he was finished he came out and again stood in for photo with the kids. He was as tense as a coiled spring and clearly the events at the weekend were on his mind. The photo shows a man not in the moment but in contemplation of the upcoming game.
He dived on a Roscommon mans boot to save a certain goal in 1980 and described it afterwards as an act of "tirgradoireacht".... love of country!
One final memory is the 1984 county final between west kerry and south kerry. Something like 6 points to 5 it ended. At the death Tommy Doyle made a vital catch in defense and ended up on the ground and won a free. Over comes Paidi and gives him 4 or 5 flakes on the back in thanksgiving. It meant that Paidi would be captain in 1985.
The problem with being a sportsman is that your greatest days can be behind you by the age of 35. A musician can play till he is old. Being Kerry manager was the next best thing for Paidi and I think he never came to terms with the fact that he was no longer the Kerry manager.
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Post by JOAN on Dec 18, 2012 1:11:19 GMT
Comhbhrón ó chroí le teaghlach Se O ag an am seo. Ní raibh Paudi ach fear admire mar pheileadóir ach bhí an sásamh mór a fhios ag an fear agus bródúil as a ghlaoch air le cara. Aireoimid uainn go mór ag gach duine. RIP Paudi
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Post by OnTheForty on Dec 18, 2012 10:42:05 GMT
Still stunned by PO's passing, even more so than with Egan or Kennelly. Hard to understand when one of your heroes dies, a man you idolised as a kid, someone you considered superhuman, immortal, a footballing god. Well, Paidi will live forever now in our memories, and there will be an even more special significance watching his nephew and footballing incarnation Tomas on a solo run out of defence. Tomas himself put it best in that sad phone call to Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh "Ta an Ri imithe uain".
Here's a great memory of Paidi's 1985 All-Ireland speech spoken with such passion and pride and beautiful, lyrical Irish.
My all time favourite All-Ireland speech memory is at the end of this when Paidi gives best wishes to his West Kerry teammate Tommy Doyle in the County Championship so Doyle would be captain and bring Sam back the following year not just to Kerry but to Corca Dhuibhne and West Kerry. Only Paidi could carry that kind of confidence and Kerry 'cockiness'. Naturally West Kerry, Doyle and Kerry obliged.
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Post by Jigz84 on Dec 18, 2012 12:02:31 GMT
Still in shock. The man was a supreme leader. Legend.
R.I.P. Páidí
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 18, 2012 12:09:53 GMT
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Post by Ard Mhacha on Dec 18, 2012 12:42:22 GMT
What was the song sung by the black-haired girl, just after communion?
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Post by delorean on Dec 18, 2012 13:26:52 GMT
Páidí was back at the Cork AI reception in 2009. I remember thinking to myself that it was a bad state of affairs that he felt more welcome at a Cork losing reception than a Kerry victory one! I'm sure there were other reasons though. Seemed like a good guy who didn't take himself too seriously. RIP.
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Post by ballybunion on Dec 18, 2012 13:44:28 GMT
Annauscaultilidie go raibh mile maith agat, thanks for the link. It was fantastic though sad. I remember Paidi singing Barr na Sraide latish !!! in Tim Kennellys bar in the late 70/80's. I would urge anybody to try a see that funeral service, it was something to be remembered. PS: On a lighter note, I wonder how many All Ireland medals were in that church?
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Post by Aodhan on Dec 18, 2012 13:49:47 GMT
What was the song sung by the black-haired girl, just after communion? Barr na Sraide The English version RIP Paidi
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Post by brogin41 on Dec 18, 2012 13:52:59 GMT
Ardmhaca its called The Boy's of Barr na Sráide, Páidí would often have sang it during a sing song!
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Post by bilythewalsh on Dec 18, 2012 14:25:53 GMT
Was interesting listening to Dara Ó Cinnéide on Off the Ball last night saying that all his life, if he was in some place that Páidí was too he'd always be hoping that he would come into their company, or if he saw him on the street he'd always be hoping to get a salute off him.
RIP Páidí and condolences to his family and friends.
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Post by hurlingman on Dec 18, 2012 14:27:39 GMT
I remember someone once say Christy Ring was for Ireland not just Cork and i think the same can be said for Páidí
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Post by Jo90 on Dec 18, 2012 14:54:11 GMT
www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/1218/1224327960061.htmlThe Irish Times - Tuesday, December 18, 2012 An abiding memory of great warmth and friendship DAVID HICKEY Páidí Ó Sé was a fantastic athlete and a terrific human being on top of that David Hickey was a member of the Dublin team of the 1970s and played on Páidí Ó Sé in a number of All-Ireland finals. They became enduring friends off the field. He was also a selector with Pat Gilroy’s Dublin side, which won the 2011 All-Ireland and beat Kerry in the final for the first time since he was a player. John McCarthy called me on Saturday morning to tell me that Páidí had passed on. Devastating news: I was rocked and you could hear John’s voice breaking. We were both very fond of this fella, and the abiding memory is of great warmth and friendship. When we scooted into an All-Ireland final in 1975, I had never heard of Páidí Ó Sé. That was supposed to be a handy All-Ireland for us because they had a very young team. I had a cousin, Pat O’Byrne from Limerick, who rang to tell me: “You’re playing on a hot bit of stuff, kiddo. This guy’s a great player.” He gave me a roasting that day. Páidí would shake hands with you at the start of a match and that was his demeanour for the rest of the game. Straightforward I never once had my jersey pulled. I never once got a clip off the ball. He never stood on my feet or anything like that. Absolutely straightforward and if you got between him and the ball, that was your problem but there was never, ever anything underhand about Páidí Ó Sé. The main problem within GAA now in my opinion is all of this imported stuff from soccer – the diving, taunting and the psychological bulls**t that goes on. Páidí Ó Sé was at the absolute opposite end of that spectrum. He had a supreme belief in himself, which was usually justified, and if he couldn’t win the ball fair and square – within broad parameters! – he’d feel he was letting himself down. I feel the clips shown on TV the other night of him getting stuck into me were a distortion. That wasn’t him. It was in the heat of the game and he was unlucky to be sent off, and I probably made a meal of it to be honest. I think the great things he did in football are what need to be remembered and I think they are what is remembered. I couldn’t say that it was a pleasure to play against him because they weren’t always my finest hours but I have nothing but the highest respect for him as player. I would say the same about him as a human being because when I became sick in 2006 he came up to see me and made huge efforts to support me. He was an old-style Gaelic footballer, a fantastic athlete and a generous, warm person on top of that. He was one of the Kerry fellas who always came over and talked to us. John McCarthy was in the Garda with him at that stage and they had a fairly strong relationship. We slowly got to know him well over the years between going down to Ventry and him coming up to Dublin. The Dublin team trained down there this August for a weekend and we asked him could he do a dinner for us on Sunday evening – at one o’clock and for 65 people. He didn’t bat an eyelid and put on a great, great night for us. I think every Kerry fella is interested in some way in managing the Kerry team. It’s a great accolade. I wasn’t surprised at him doing that and neither was I surprised at his success. Generally speaking I think football management is about a passionate vision of what you want to do and this was someone who could definitely get that across to people. I could see 30 guys rowing in behind him and having total confidence in him. Widely knowledgeable He was also a literary guy. You could have very good conversations with Páidí. He was a well-read and widely knowledgeable on public affairs. He wasn’t just a footballer, as his appointment to the board of Bórd Fáilte showed. His life was very much Kerry and football, and the two of them are so intertwined I’d say he was missing the involvement. Some of the stuff at the end – the “animals” comment – was taken totally out of context and I think some people got mileage out of it totally disingenuously. It was unfair and certainly didn’t reflect his feelings about Kerry. He took immense pride in his nephews playing for the county. They are chips off the old block – very athletic. People forget how good an athlete Páidí was. I had great time for him. Whenever he was in Dublin there would be a phone call and I’d be into town to see him. I loved meeting him and would like to offer my sympathies to Máire, Neasa, Siún and Pádraig; it will be a huge hole in their lives. You could always drop down to see him or call over to his mother’s shop and he always had great time for you. We didn’t meet often enough and that is my regret now.
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Post by Kingdomson on Dec 18, 2012 16:14:30 GMT
Michael Mac, A very nice video tribute. What is the music?
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Post by kerryman1 on Dec 18, 2012 16:15:31 GMT
Is there anyway of seeing the coverage of the funeral that was shown earlier today, would love to see it!
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Post by Kingdomson on Dec 18, 2012 16:29:05 GMT
Is there anyway of seeing the coverage of the funeral that was shown earlier today, would love to see it! The tributes from the funeral mass are available to watch on the RTE website now. www.rte.ie/sport/player/809/359457/
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Post by ballybunion on Dec 18, 2012 17:06:36 GMT
The mass and tributes etc should be on the RTE TV player soon and also on Youtube pretty quickly. This is a must to see and hopefully RTE will make it available.
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Post by veteran on Dec 18, 2012 17:34:57 GMT
Is there anyway of seeing the coverage of the funeral that was shown earlier today, would love to see it! The tributes from the funeral mass are available to watch on the RTE website now. www.rte.ie/sport/player/809/359457/Thanks for that reference Kingdomson. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the entire mass, tributes, graveside oration etc was put out on DVD. What a treasure it would be , particularly for the Kerry diaspora. Has anybody got any idea if that is being contemplate. I have no doubt Kerry supporters would pay any money to get their hands on it, with the proceeds going to his wife and young family.
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Post by veteran on Dec 18, 2012 17:58:58 GMT
Michael Mac, A very nice video tribute. What is the music? The music is Mo Ghile Mear. Roughly translated it means, I think, my shining light/gallant darling etc. As far as I know Ireland- a princess/goddess - is lamenting the absence of Bonny Prince Charles who is not available to save her. This poem was written a couple hundred years ago and is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I have heard. There are several version, not sure who is singing on this clip. I am sure Gaelgeoirs on this forum will be able enlighten us further. The first time I heard this music it was performed by Comhar Cuil Aodha, who indeed performed at Paidi's mass today. Diarmuidin O'Shuilleabhain was a member of this choir and was a very close friend of Paidi. Sadly, Diarmuidin was killed in road traffic accident about twenty years ago. He was a news reader on Radio Na Gaeltachta. I think it was he who helped Paidi prepare his 1985 victory speech. Poignancy overflowing.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 18, 2012 18:14:37 GMT
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Post by champer on Dec 18, 2012 19:17:47 GMT
From Paul Galvin Paidi. Mar fhocal scoir. PDecember 17, 2012 Three short months ago I went west towards Gaeltacht Chorca Dhuibhne. Weeks spent in Ceann Tra and Baile ‘n Fheirtearaigh as a youngster left me with a fluency of our native tongue and an affinity for the parishes that preserve and promote it that hasn’t left me since. There’s a wildness about the place and it’s people that I love. I was lucky to spend a few hours in Paidi’s company talking football and music and photography and then more football. He was a cultured man and he appreciated his own culture more than any other. Whilst I never knew Paidi as well as someone like Eamon Fitz I always admired and respected him. I loved his company and his stories often had me rolling with laughter. The more I laughed the more Paidi enjoyed it. The O Se’s are like that. We spoke about writers too. Con Houlihan and Aengus Fanning came and went. We sat and listened to some of John Spillane’s music. I remember Paidi being surprised that I knew some of John’s songs. He spoke of his pride in Eamon Fitz in his new position. The two share a special bond. Paidi trusted Eamon, Eamon delivered as Eamon does. He spoke of his pride in Paidi Og. It struck me how sharp he was regarding the game. He said two things to me about my own game that only a really sharp football man would notice. He put me thinking I must admit but then Paidi had a wit that could put anyone thinking. He could provoke, but then leaders must. Those things will remain private of course because some things mean more when you keep them to yourself. Whilst I never soldiered much under him as a player I remember PO’s team talks vividly. They were more than team talks really, they were a call to arms that you had to answer and everyone answered the call for Paidi. His teams played football like he did. With passion and purpose and all the skills. Anyway there are men better placed than me to talk about his qualities as a manager.
As a man I was drawn to him. He had courage and charisma and I’m glad of those few hours we spent now. If Kerry football has a foundation then the four O Se’s are the cornerstones upon which it is built. Paidi’s passing won’t change that only re-inforce it. Great men are an even greater loss I guess. We’ll shoulder this one together. Paidi I’ll take your words with me as I go. The wild west won’t be the same without you.
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