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Post by kerryeye on Jun 14, 2012 9:49:55 GMT
Ok lads,i can see where ye are coming from.I just felt it was worth bringing up the argument to see who preffered the older game to what we have today.
I just felt with the amount of abuse the games gets today mainly from the TV pundits about how it was better in their day that i would counter that argument as i didnt feel there was much thought involved in putting the head down and flaking the ball 50-60 yards up the field.
I wonder how a team would get on if they tried this tactic though nowadays(I know most of what Crossmaglen do is try and kick it in as fast as possible alright and this seems to work),I'm not saying that i like the lateral passing that goes on in the game today and all the handpassing,my only grievance with the game i watched was that it seemed all the players wanted to do was get rid of the ball rather than actually picking a pass.
By Veteran i meant anyone of the age who remembered the 75 final i guess Glengael,just before my time.
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Post by punter1 on Jun 14, 2012 10:42:52 GMT
kerryeye, I have to agree with you. I'm all for more kick passing in our current game, but kick passing that gives your team some chance of retaining the possession. A lot of the passing in the '75 game was just aimless kicking and for me it didn't add to the entertainment value. It reminded me of stuff you'd see at a primary game. I think the problem nowadays is that when a player gets out into a bit of space around the half-back line and midfield and has the option to kick a long ball which has a 60/40 chance of being retained, they choose not to do so. This is what I'd like to see change in the modern game. More of a willingness to speculate in order to accumulate in the knowledge that it wont work all the time but that when it does the rewards are greater on the score board.
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Post by ArthurG on Jun 14, 2012 12:33:55 GMT
Watched the first half of the '75 game again last night. lots of things have changed but most noticably what struck me was: 1. The use of the drop kick against the wind - when last did we see a modern day footballer use it? The drop kick was used loads of times in that first half and 2. The hard tackling - all players seemed to accept it. The ref included didn't seem too bothered either. Oige nearly had his head de-capitated at one stage, no booking just a free given 3. Standard of shooting was cat - the amount of easy chances missed and badly was amazing for so-called superstars 4. Mickey Neds ambush - how the hell did he survive??!! there should have been at least one sent off 5. M O'Hare commentary on all the rough stuff - he never implicated or named the players doing the bad stuff
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Post by Dermot on Jun 14, 2012 13:26:14 GMT
It was the 1975 final shown alright tonight. Having watched this game tonight,and this may not go down well with some of our 'veteran' forumites, i must say that that is the style of football i would describe as puke football,players just driving aimless ball after aimless ball without a notion of who or where it was going to. Give me todays football anyday anyway,we amy have gotten too worked up over tactics and stuff in the modern game but looking at these games it very much seemed like all players wanted to do was get the ball as far up the field as possible. If anyone has any grievances or agrees with my opinion id be interested to hear. I completely agree .. Ive watched those old games from 70's & even 80's and it hasnt a patch on the games of the Noughties ... As you pointed out, head down and hoof the ball as far up the field as possible and "hope" one of your own players get it. Crossmaglen do use the foot pass more than most now but they only do it as a directed pass .. not a hoof ! If you look at the matches of the noughties, you will see faster, more accurate, better scores and IMHO better football all round .. there's no comparison ... But everyone will have their own view on that and some may like the old stuff better ,.... but def not me ! The last couple of years I think Gaelic has gone a bit too defensive, with the likes of Donegal and to a slightly lesser extent, Dublin, retaining 13 men behind the ball at all times .. This certainly hasnt helped the game as a specticle... But Dublin are certainly better to watch than Donegal.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 14, 2012 13:30:17 GMT
;D
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Post by Dermot on Jun 14, 2012 14:10:05 GMT
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 14, 2012 17:27:39 GMT
The use of Gaelic when describing football grates with many.
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Post by diggerbarnes on Jun 14, 2012 21:47:53 GMT
The use of Gaelic when describing football grates with many. I think Dermot doesn't want any confusion with that 'tippy tappy' stuff going on in Poland ATM. Used to be called a foreign game.
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Post by Dermot on Jun 15, 2012 11:22:32 GMT
Thats exactly it lads ... Its probably a reminant of my various travels and living/working away from home ... Gaelic, Rubgy & Soccer !!! no confusion !!
Talking about Soccer ... Jaysus that was a dire affair last night .. Mind you spain are some outfit ...
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 16, 2012 9:49:43 GMT
Football, Rugby and Soccer. No confusion
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Post by Dermot on Jun 18, 2012 12:24:14 GMT
Football, Rugby and Soccer. No confusion lol .. I know what you mean but you always end up confusing somebody .... Depends who yer talking to
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 18, 2012 12:40:24 GMT
Football, Rugby and Soccer. No confusion lol .. I know what you mean but you always end up confusing somebody .... Depends who yer talking to Yeah well you're talking to Kerrymen and women on here so football will be fine ;D
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Post by Dermot on Jun 18, 2012 12:43:14 GMT
lol .. I know what you mean but you always end up confusing somebody .... Depends who yer talking to Yeah well you're talking to Kerrymen and women on here so football will be fine ;D I suppose thats true ... I must mend my ways .. if I can remember!!
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 25, 2012 18:42:10 GMT
Check out TG4 now lads!
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Post by townend on Jul 25, 2012 22:40:20 GMT
the 1979 final Paudie got sent off that day for feck all, there was a good programme on after it about the 80's had to close the eyes when 1982 final came on they even played the 5 in-a-row song during it.
watch that game a while ago even doe it was painful there was some great scores and football in it.
Galways hurling win of 1980 also on it Offalys win again kilkenny 1980 and final win in 81 again Galway the Dubs 12 men again Galway the 80's were great times for the GAA with so many great players and games.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Jul 26, 2012 8:13:40 GMT
The UPC box worked for once. Will enjoy watching this one.
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Post by valyn on Jul 26, 2012 9:10:42 GMT
[I just felt with the amount of abuse the games gets today mainly from the TV pundits about how it was better in their day
By Veteran i meant anyone of the age who remembered the 75 final i guess Glengael,just before my time.[/quote]
I qualify as a veteran and don't worry in 1975 football was classed as glorified basketball and I can go further back to the 60's when the critics said Paddy Kennedy was better than O'Connell and the footballers of the 50's were far better. Funny how football was always better a few years ago. Football is always knocked and hurling is pure yet hundreds of thousands more pay good money to watch football. Are they all fools that the likes of Pat Spillane is trying to save.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 26, 2012 9:16:33 GMT
If one removed the physical and tactical preparation in the modern game, the current standard of football would be no better than what has gone before it.
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Post by townend on Jul 28, 2012 12:33:10 GMT
there was as good as football back then as now there was no off the ball stuff going on or players blocking other players runs.
and another thing the players today wouldn't wear out many pairs of boots anyway there is not much kicking the ball theses times.
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 28, 2012 23:17:01 GMT
The 79 Final the other night was poor fare. The amount of ball kicked away and wasted was amazing. Spillane and Sheehy were top-class that day. But there were a few cynical fouls in the game.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 28, 2012 23:18:38 GMT
The 79 Final the other night was poor fare. The amount of ball kicked away and wasted was amazing. Spillane and Sheehy were top-class that day. But there were a few cynical fouls in the game. Still the call from today is to go back to kicking the ball, we cant have it every way in fairness!
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Post by Jigz84 on Jul 28, 2012 23:24:13 GMT
That's true KG. Sean Walsh brought down a huge ball in the first half, some catch. Dublin should've kicked on after Páidí got the line and after they got the goal but Jacko took over.
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Post by townend on Jul 28, 2012 23:27:36 GMT
that was an old Dublin side most were on there last legs, where kerry were in there prime but the Dublin side of 74 to 77 weren't to simple.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 28, 2012 23:29:25 GMT
Shur we might get another Kerry versus Dublin final in 2012.
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Post by townend on Jul 28, 2012 23:44:51 GMT
i think we may well do.
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 1, 2012 18:49:47 GMT
John Egan's All-Ireland Gold continues on TG4. 1980 Semi-Final v Offaly is on now.
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Post by backmest on Aug 1, 2012 19:50:19 GMT
I know this is about John Egan but i just have to say Matt Connor was some player
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 1, 2012 22:16:52 GMT
He was a genius. That was great entertainment on a Wednesday night, some brilliant scores.
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Post by glengael on Aug 2, 2012 10:25:20 GMT
Strange the way Offaly football has more or less vanished for the last 30 years ( one brief revival aside).
Wednesday's nights programme was great alright.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Aug 2, 2012 11:35:48 GMT
I was mostly amazed about how fluent the game was and how few handpasses there were. We tend to forget just how much more beautiful the game is to watch when played well.
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