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Post by The Boy on Jul 17, 2006 15:55:02 GMT
This current set of Kerry Supporters is a disgrace.
How many bothered to show up in Pairc Ui Chaoimh yesterday. Well under 8,000 for a Provincial Final id imagine.Whats the combined figure of KY supporters for the 4 games to date.pretty embarrasing id think
3 All Irelands in the last 10 years when All Irelands are hard to come by with advances by every county in team preperation & this is how we repay the players. What more would you want if you are a Ky supporter than a provincial final on a glorious day to see players like Seamus Moynihan & Dara O Se still putting in good performances in the twilight of their careers.
People on this forum who call yerselves Kerry fans & who didnt bother going to the game stick to whatever else ye do in yer spare time.
The Kerry Senior Football team deserves more.
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Post by kingdomkerry on Jul 17, 2006 16:25:20 GMT
Support was an absolute disgrace alright. There was hardly anyone behind the 'kerry' goal. Id say something if the game was on TV.
Performance of players was as bad as supporters
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 17, 2006 16:26:44 GMT
Regarding grading supporters into good and bad etc Kerry like every county has every kind of supporter under the sun: fair weather, salt of the earth, clueless, knowledgeable etc etc Of course more fellows should have travelled but its the same every year.
I do find it amusing for fellows who only bothered to listen on the radio have such strong opinions on how the team should play.
I decided last night I was going to Longford if necessary as I have seen every minute of every championship game this year (for my stupid loyalty!). I will of course be travelling to Killarney for the Longford game.
A general shout to get behind the lands is needed but this kind of thread is no good.
Come on the Kingdom let keep the show on the road
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 17, 2006 17:02:09 GMT
I did not travel yesterday and I will make no apology for it. I was at the Waterford, Tipp and drawn cork games. I travelled from Dublin for each of them and brought my young fella with me to the first two.
After ENDURING three crap games I could not bring myself to make another 380 mile round trip to park two miles from the pitch.
I will probably not go to the Longford game
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Post by Jo90 on Jul 17, 2006 17:03:08 GMT
Good call. Where have all the Kerry supporters gone? It's really gone downhill in the last 3 years. You would normally have 10,000 Kerry fans in the City End Terrace with 90% of them aged between 15 and 25 but there was only a few hundred there yesterday. Are these the supporters that are gone or is it across all age groups? We must have the worst supporters in the country. Longford has 1/4 the population of Kerry and I fear they'll have bigger support in Killarney in two weeks. It can make such a difference to a team having a passionate crowd behind you but the last time Kerry had a passsionate crowd was the 2004 Munster Final Replay.
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Post by fiorgael on Jul 17, 2006 17:09:58 GMT
There was a small enough kerry support as it was without some eejits turning on their own team. AT least if kerry get to the final this year we wont be hearing about hardship stories about tickets such was the lack of interest shown towards the team yesterday.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 17, 2006 17:50:10 GMT
Can we get back what is important now please, the Longford match. I counted I think it was two constructive posts about the qualities of Longford, and where the people actually named a few players. Constructive posts and we should have more of them.
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Post by tabbyie on Jul 17, 2006 19:04:11 GMT
I also travelled to game yesterday. Kerry fans can be very fickle when it comes to supporting the team at the start of the championship and then demand tickets when we get to Croker.
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Post by nicoshea on Jul 17, 2006 19:12:31 GMT
As i said in another part I agree wholeheartly with the laack of support, now some people couldnt go due to other commitments made months ago when the dates were announced and we all just assumed that kerry would win the Munster Final 1st time off, but there is alot of other people who I know who from Killarney, had a drive to adn from, just couldnt be bothered as the weather was too hot, What about the players who had to play in the blistering sun.
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Post by KevinT on Jul 17, 2006 20:07:41 GMT
Agree totally though about the lack of support. From my local in Tralee we had 38 bodies on a 36 seater bus for the drawn game in Killarney. We managed 6 in an 8 seater yesterday!! I cant explain it. I'll be in Killarney for the Longford match and every other match after that if we win. I would have travelled to Longford as well. This is probably the last few chances we're going to have to see Daragh and Seamus in full flight. I wouldnt miss it for the world and I feel sorry for anyone who does.
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Post by The Boy on Jul 17, 2006 22:37:57 GMT
It can make such a difference to a team having a passionate crowd behind you but the last time Kerry had a passsionate crowd was the 2004 Munster Final Replay. Come on all Kerry supporters & lets hope this will be the sceanario again for the Longford game in Killarney.This team needs a big lift from the fans.they have given enough to deserve it
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Post by RashersTierney on Jul 17, 2006 23:55:04 GMT
:oI couldnt believe my eyes when I saw how little support there was! On the radio this morning there was the suggestion that Kerry fans were voting with their absence on various policies of the management, such as a media ban etc - could this be true? Seems very sudden if it is
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Post by CappaT on Jul 18, 2006 0:53:08 GMT
even if people hold genuine, correct and considered opinions of this nature and felt a great need to express them, it should not have been beyond their powers of expression to make their points in a careful and considered manner without resorting to abuse, personal or otherwise. Our goal should be the good of Kerry football - not pursuing personal agendas (we're not that important!). To paraphrase others ... damn the begrudgers, let's support Kerry football and footballers!
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 18, 2006 7:51:19 GMT
Lads this is a devisive thread. Thats the only way its going to end up. Fellows are going to be claiming that they are great supporters with other fellows say they are better supporters. The whole process will not get anyone anywhere. This carry on of telling fellows to stay away from matches is a joke. Especially when the support is down. I would urge fellows to turn out in Killarney of course to get behind the team. There is one thing fellows forget though: fellows will always have opinions on Kerry football. You will never get full agreement on who should be on the team the tactics the coach and selectors. Thats whats keeps the interest and its the interest in the game.
Lets get on with discussing Kerry football.
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Post by scout on Jul 18, 2006 8:12:23 GMT
u have to take in to consideration why a lot of people did'nt travel is because of the heat and also because of the venue ..there was serious heat there sunday
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Post by KY50 on Jul 18, 2006 8:16:29 GMT
Fair enough Scout.Now lets turn up in Killarney and get behind the team and start thinking positive
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Post by champer on Jul 18, 2006 8:43:30 GMT
I did'nt go to the game on Sunday. I had full intentions of going but the talent in Banna was unbelieveable by 11am. I have never seen anything like it in my life and when this tall blond jogged by me then the thoughts of the long walk to Parc Ui Caoimh seemed like a poor second. Discussed it with a few of the Kerry players in Killarney last night and thankfully they forgave me.
Sorry lads, i just cracked.
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Post by Paulie Walnuts on Jul 18, 2006 8:47:53 GMT
Was I the only one who wasn't very surprised at all with the atrocious Kerry support on Sunday?? For the county with far and away the best history in Gaelic Football, we always have the most fickle support.
The most common comment I heard after the drawn game was "I'm not going to the replay after that s**t. ITs typical of the average Kerry fan. They expect everything to be "win by 10 points and go home happy" stuff. The bad news is, gaelic football isnt that easy anymore. Sometimes I think, Kerry's success as a GAA county alienates more people than it attracts to following the team. Its bizarre really.
The worst part of it is the following:
How must Seamus and Darragh (and all the other lads) feel coming out for their 15 th and 12 th championship seasons of hard slog to run out of the tunnel and see that only a couple of thousand people have travelled from supposedly GAA's most football mad county to see them play their biggest rivals all of 1.5 hours from home?........
Is it any wonder we lost ?
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 18, 2006 9:15:14 GMT
i've always said it would only take about 2000 tickets to be put aside to acommodate the geniune gaa fan in most counties for all ireland final day. being sacarstic,on turning up at the pitch the last day its was really rewarding to have my ticket stub stampted and to be told to present it when i'm looking for my all-ireland ticket.it was also nice to get 300 bonus points for the miles travelled to the match to add to the 350 for the drawn match,the figure coming to 650 bonus points was rounded up to 700 bonus points because it was a replay.The 350 bonus points for travelling back down to killarney for the fourth round quailifier will bring my total up to over a thousand points which will earn me a 50% reduction to one of kerrys league games next spring,i also will have another stampted stub to present after queing up in the public que for my all-ireland ticket,great to be appreciated as a fan.
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Post by Paulie Walnuts on Jul 18, 2006 9:30:14 GMT
i've always said it would only take about 2000 tickets to be put aside to acommodate the geniune gaa fan in most counties for all ireland final day. being sacarstic,on turning up at the pitch the last day its was really rewarding to have my ticket stub stampted and to be told to present it when i'm looking for my all-ireland ticket.it was also nice to get 300 bonus points for the miles travelled to the match to add to the 350 for the drawn match,the figure coming to 650 bonus points was rounded up to 700 bonus points because it was a replay.The 350 bonus points for travelling back down to killarney for the fourth round quailifier will bring my total up to over a thousand points which will earn me a 50% reduction to one of kerrys league games next spring,i also will have another stampted stub to present after queing up in the public que for my all-ireland ticket,great to be appreciated as a fan. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 18, 2006 10:07:19 GMT
On a general point. Last Sundays attendence was 23k (officially) the drawn match was 26k. Total 49k. In the old days you would 45-50 at one match. Attendences at the Munster Finals have halfed. Reasons possible hot days, world cups and lack of interest. Theres obviously "missing" cork and Kerry supporters. It could be the fact that its no longer knock out.
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 18, 2006 10:11:45 GMT
nicoshea you call yourself a kerry supporter?? i think paul galvin has been quite disciplined this championship so far and he didnt get booked sunday so can you justify your comments? the GAA dont need unsporting people like you. star got a raw deal too and seamo looks tired. we'll surely beat longford!! The GAA don't need supporters like him? I didn't realise that the spokesperson for all of the GAA would come on here under an anonymous name and tell people they are not welcome in the GAA. With all this talk of deciding who are and who aren't "real" supporters are we not taking ourselves a small bit too seriously??
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Post by mattie500 on Jul 18, 2006 12:47:15 GMT
Does anyone here think the ticket prices are too high? 23,000 was dismal alright but for Kerry people it looks like apathy. It is only now that we are in knock out mode and at the business end of the championship. In Cork the hurling gets great support so it can be expensive to follow both codes. it is beyond the reach of alot of genuine supporters for a family to go to Killarney, Pairc Ui Chaoimh, Thurles, Dublin week after week. it wasn't far to walk on Sunday because there wasn't anyone there. As for the Kerry supporters........ sometimes it gets hard to get motivated for a Munster final after winning so many..... gone are the days if Kerry lost they were out..... now it can be seen as an extra match to prepare for the All-ireland which in all honesty begins now. From a Cork point of view it different....... winning a Munster medal was a 1st for alot of the guys. Alot of so called supporters didn't expect it and stayed away. Poor form and they will be the ones with the tickets for later in the championship if we get that far. Must be the same in every county...... dedicated supporter getting the worst seat if any at all and the guy with the contacts bringing in the wife/girlfriend to read her book (have seen it at an All-Ireland)
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Post by BIGMAC on Jul 18, 2006 13:02:42 GMT
On a general point. Last Sundays attendence was 23k (officially) the drawn match was 26k. Total 49k. In the old days you would 45-50 at one match. Attendences at the Munster Finals have halfed. Reasons possible hot days, world cups and lack of interest. Theres obviously "missing" cork and Kerry supporters. It could be the fact that its no longer knock out. paul collins (today fm) made a good point yesteray about the falling attendances and put it down to the back door
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Post by The Boy on Jul 18, 2006 13:17:21 GMT
Yes Mattie 500 I WOULD AGREE TICKET PRICES ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE TOO HIGH ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE TRYING TO CARRY A YOUNG FAMILY OUT FOR THE DAY AS WELL AS THE INACCESSIBILITY OF PAIRC UI CHAOIMH & I WOULD ALSO AGREE BIGMAC WITH YOUR POINT ON THE BACK DOOR TAKING AWAY FROM CROWDS.
I KNOW THIS POST IS NOT VERY CONSTRUCTIVE BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT A THIRD OF A CROWD OF 23,000 FOR WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR SECOND MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THE YEAR IS PATHETIC.
IMAGINE WHAT ALL THE SO CALLED WEAKER COUNTIES WOULD DO TO GET AS MANY DAYS OUT AS WE DO.
AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED IT DEMONSTRATES THE ARROGANCE OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF KERRY FOOTBALL SUPPORTERS, DRESS IT UP WHATEVER WAY YOU WANT
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 18, 2006 13:30:49 GMT
The boy I agree that more people should come out but this is hardly a new thing its been going on for years. As already joked about do you think the people that do go to the early games get looked after when it comes to All Ireland final tickets? They do in their eye!!
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Post by nicoshea on Jul 18, 2006 19:19:31 GMT
I am a Kerry Supporter and have been for the last 20odd years, I was brought to my 1st Kerry game when I was 4, and have been to as many matches as possible since. I was at league matches, I was at the game against Waterford when the weather wasnt the greates, but i suppose that doesnt prove that I am a real fan does it.
What ever problems are going on in the Kerry camp should stay there, otherwise the other teams are going to feed off that.
Prove you are a true fan and go to Killarney Saturday week and support your team. its now they really need the support
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Post by buck02 on Jul 19, 2006 10:00:27 GMT
Somebody made the point about the lack of people in the terrace on Sunday - this amazed me, I got in there just after 3 o clock and could pick whatever space I wanted. Now last year was handy enough but it made me think of 2001 when the terrace was more or less packed. I reckon its down to the fact that there was a novelty factor among 15-25 year olds in attending Kerry games in the 96-2002 period, making a weekend of it on the beer. Now it seems to be the die-hards in this age group that are going to matches, I think the rest are heading off to Barcelona for a weekend break or saving money for garden furniture so they can enjoy their cappucino al fresco! Dont worry though, they'll be back again the next time we make the all ireland final.
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Post by seamus on Jul 19, 2006 10:34:40 GMT
Spot on about the support buck02. The majority of the supporters from 96-02 have grown up and moved on. The novelty factor is gone and we have a couple of AI's in the bank. Hopefully last week will be the kick start we need as the upcoming games are fascinating IF we keep progressing:
Longford - what time will Jack pick and how will they bounce back? Armagh - This game will bring everyone out of the bushes and could unite the county Cork (maybe)- Payback in spades! Final v Dubs - Round off the year with a cut off the enemy
In some ways it would be the ideal AI to win if you could have picked it. Kick up the arse vs Cork Kick up the arse again - replay Rehab and fine tune the team - Longford Armagh - break the hoodoo etc
I guarantee a big kerry crowd and a great buzz if we get to play Armagh. We will be underdogs with a point to prove as well.
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Post by champ on Jul 19, 2006 10:35:33 GMT
i havent missed a kerry game, league or championship in 10 yrs. we dont know whats going on in the camp, regardless of all the stories, so we (you) shouldn't judge the players on what we see, or apparently see, on the sidelines at games. i have great respect for any fellow who gives as much time and dedication to the game, and take just as much abuse at times, as the kerry players do.
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