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Post by watchdahop on Jul 4, 2006 10:09:07 GMT
Its actually hard to tell who will play in the forwards:
Paul O'Connor was rumoured to be going well before the Tipp match but they never give him a run bringing on Fitzmaurice, Mike Frank and Ronan O'Connor before him.
Darren got taken off that day (hard to make it his fault they were skying the ball into him and Gooch)
Declan on the wing to be fair to him didn't dwell on the ball.
On the 40 Brosnan was poor with fizmaurice doing OK when he came on.
The only two certainties as I see it is Galvin on the wing and Gooch in the corner.
Declan and Sheehan will play also but where. After that it gets a bit hazy!!
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Post by realist on Jul 4, 2006 11:58:05 GMT
well if the stories about fitzmaurice being at no.14 are true it is a terrible sign of things in our wonderful footballing county. The guy is a super defender and many would argue that he should be starting at no.6 but to now put him at 14 would be just abuse of the guy in my opinion. There are many "natural" forwards that would be far better off in there at the verge of the square.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 4, 2006 12:07:57 GMT
There are many "natural" forwards that would be far better off in there at the verge of the square. Right then realist, have at it. Give us three full forwards that would do a good job on Sunday, and have been proven to have done so before. |
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Post by realist on Jul 4, 2006 12:38:10 GMT
ok abu, in no particular order I would put any of the following at no 14 before a tried and tested centre back! - all of these have played there can play there - or hold sure lets try out something on the day of a munster final and play or centre back there!!! Brian Sheehan, Declan O Sullivan, Ronan O Connor, Mike Quirke, Stephen Wallace, Mark Fitzgerald(Strand road for those you who have never heard of him), ...............tere are probably more but they escape me at present my friend! actually Genire Farrell Aunnascaul is in great form this year so why not bring him out of retirement...at least he has played there and plays there for his club!
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Post by Tadhgeen on Jul 4, 2006 12:41:49 GMT
Fitzmaurice in full forward wouldn't be that bad an option - so far we have been pathetic in this department. Once this area is sorted I can see everything else falling into place. Why not send a few high balls into the square and a big man under it?
Sheehan would also be more suited here than on the forty - give them a half each. Problem then is half forward line - who to put on the wing? O'Sullivan or Sullivan or Moynihan or Gooch etc etc?
Still think it's a massive game for Donnaghy and hope he keeps up the good progress.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jul 4, 2006 12:42:24 GMT
ok. i think bringing genie Farrell out of retirement (a very long retirement at that) is a bit mad but I agree with you in principle realist. why we would put a centre back in a pivotal forward position is beyond me. Declan Sullivan, for all his faults and people problems with him would be a far greater option in there. In my opinion thats where he should be.
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Post by realist on Jul 4, 2006 13:21:02 GMT
Yea a bit over the top with genie maybe but just trying to stress a point!
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 4, 2006 13:21:31 GMT
Ronan O'Connor hasn't proven his worth yet, but yes, I would like to see him develop in there.
Declan O'Sullivan - has potential, and is beginning to realise that he shouldn't cross the forty, but he does.
Mike Quirke - are you mad? Tried, didn't work, please do not try again.
Genie Farrell - ah here, get off the box and give us some real alternatives.
Stephen Wallace - won't make it at senior grade again.
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Post by kingdomkerry on Jul 4, 2006 13:23:48 GMT
Bottom line: Fitzmaurice is a very good back but not good enough for the forwards. I would go with buck02's team. Not too sure about MFR. Id say that corner forward spot will come down to who ever is playing best in training.
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Post by bluesball on Jul 4, 2006 15:13:27 GMT
REMEMBER 1983 YE WERE SO COCKY THAT TIME YE DID NOT EVEN BRING THE CUP WITH YE.WILL HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF THIS YEAR, HOPEFULLY .UP THE REBELS.,
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Post by buck02 on Jul 4, 2006 16:54:21 GMT
Funny with Fitzmaurice, when he came on the Kerry team in 98 at corner back he was playing centre forward for his club. Now an established centre back he's been tried at full forward! I hope it doesnt happen cos if it doesnt work out it'll be very embaressing for the management and Fitz himself.
When is the team due to be named by the way, think its been Wednesday night so far in this years championship..
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 4, 2006 18:14:10 GMT
Hey Bluesball
Come up with something a bit more recent than 23 years ago
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Post by icon on Jul 4, 2006 19:59:49 GMT
good on you jack picking so early
is tom sull injured or dropped?
delighted for mossy
think bros is lucky rest seem ok
will these 3 in full line stay inside
what do yee think
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Post by Admin on Jul 4, 2006 21:45:09 GMT
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Post by expert05 on Jul 4, 2006 22:53:43 GMT
Kerry0-15
Cork0-10
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Post by kingdomkerry on Jul 4, 2006 23:09:57 GMT
Good team, interesting that tom sullivan is'nt on. Did he pick up a knock in training? Not too suprised by paul o connor as nobody has made this spot their own. Hopefully sheehan can do more from play and bros improves he's form. Kerry by 6.
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 5, 2006 7:58:10 GMT
Theres one think I can't understand with Paul O'Connor.
If he is now worth his place in the starting line up why did he not play a minute against Tipp?? Good luck to him though.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 5, 2006 8:28:58 GMT
It goes to show what a good set of backs we have if Tom Sullivan and Eamon Fitz cant get a place in the backs.
Not too surprised by the rest of the team, although the remaining place was between 3 or 4. Fair play to Paul Connor & best of luck to him, he'll be marked by a rookie too so wont be at any disadvantage in terms of the experience of his marker.
Cork's selection is very strange to say the least. The centre forward never before played at senior level for Cork and 3 guys played for the Cork juniors last year. 7 munster final debutants, thats a fair clean out from last year.
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 5, 2006 8:48:11 GMT
Cork have a lot of new fellows but it seems that people in Cork think these guys should be on. I mean the forwards against limerick couldn't have been much worse.
At least Cork are getting guys from their junior team when was the last time that happened with Kerry?
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Post by buck02 on Jul 5, 2006 8:53:02 GMT
At least Cork are getting guys from their junior team when was the last time that happened with Kerry? Yeah but I think that says a lot about the state of Cork football... Maybe morgan the mouths thinking is that these new guys will have no fear of Kerry as they havnt been at the end of 13 point or 15 point hammerings from us in the past. |
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Post by Joxer on Jul 5, 2006 8:57:08 GMT
Good to see Sean O'Sullivan making his way up the subs and best of luck to Paul O'Connor. Looks like a good team. Heard Cork made a lot of changes from the Limerick game but haven't seen their team yet...can someone put it up here?
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 5, 2006 9:08:54 GMT
Is it announced? I haven't seen it anywhere.
Jack has finally reverted to a team that is going well in training, with the possible exception of Brosnan. Not surprised at all with the team apart from Brosnan. I thought Fitzmaurice might squeak in there ahead of him. Other than that, content that it's the best team available to Jack.
But boys and girls, this is not going to be a cakewalk. People here are putting us down to win by anywhere between 6-10 points. Rumours from the camp don't seem to indicate that either. This is going to be tough. Very tough.
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Post by Owenabue on Jul 5, 2006 9:09:56 GMT
Not sure I should be telling you this but…. The Cork team is as follows: A Quirke; M Prout, G Canty, K O'Connor; M Shields, G Spillane, A Lynch; D Kavanagh, N Murphy; S O'Brien, P O'Neill, K MacMahon; J Masters, F Gould, D O'Connor
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Post by ruralgaa on Jul 5, 2006 9:45:38 GMT
CORK (v Kerry) - Alan Quirke(Valley Rovers); M Prout(Shamrocks), G Canty(Bantry), K O'Connor(Aghda); M Shields(St.Michaels), G Spillane, A Lynch(Naomh Abhan); D Kavanagh(Nemo Rangers), N Murphy(Carrigaline); S O'Brien(Nemo Rangers), P O'Neill(Aghda), K MacMahon(Carbery rangers); J Masters(Nemo Rangers), F Gould(Macroom), D O'Connor(Ballydesmond).
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Post by Joxer on Jul 5, 2006 10:01:05 GMT
Thats a good Cork team...helluva lot better than the team named for the Limerick game imho. I agree with ASA, this is not going to be easy and we don't need easy. By naming that team, I can only assume Billy has a lot less influence now for whatever reason. That team will play better football...even though if I was a corkman, I'd still have serious doubts about their midfield...they have better available but anyway, not my problem.
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Post by gaadevotee on Jul 5, 2006 10:09:16 GMT
who is p o neill? never heard of him
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Post by Owenabue on Jul 5, 2006 10:09:35 GMT
Joxer, out of curiosity, who would you have put in midfield for Cork?
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jul 5, 2006 10:10:43 GMT
Didn't expect that change in the defence. Tom Sullivan picked up his form after a poor start to the league. Good to see mike Mac back although with Mar Se playing as well as he did Mike was hardly missed. He's on a good player the next day. Gould is as good as Cork have in the forwards.
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 5, 2006 10:14:49 GMT
I think Cork are strong in Midfield and their backs look good enough. Not sure about their forwards though. That said I expect a very tough game from Cork.
They have nothing to lose after the Limerick game and can usually do well when theres less expectation on them.
Any one expecting a comfortable win for kerry could get a rude awakening!!
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Post by ruralgaa on Jul 5, 2006 10:34:10 GMT
pierce o'neill. i never really heard of him, although he is in the cork panel on the back of his county chamionship form for Aghda. this is his first game in inter county football having never represented Cork at senior level.
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