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Post by austinstacksabu on May 25, 2006 14:21:41 GMT
Tom, it's a catchy phrase - no more - no less. Same as you have the Peoples Republic of Cork etc. All catchphrases, all no harm at all. Nobody actually takes that phrase seriously apart from in the heat of the moment before / during the match.
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Post by scoobydo on May 25, 2006 14:23:15 GMT
I'll give ya better(ok its nots, thats unbeatable but this is quite funny too.) National League Final 2004 Vs Galway. Watching it in a pub in Boston (Green Briar) and a man from BallinSkelligs tried to tell me that Gooch was a one season wonder, no good and that Ronán O Connor was a better player. Needless to say I switched off at that point. Wouldn't dignify that kinda tripe with a response. or some clown in Dublin after last years match trying to tell me that Kerrys goal was all down to gooch (granted it was a great pass) but Dara Cinneide had to really stretch to catch it and stuck it well whilst off balance, course he wouldn't have a bar of it, i had to leave him at it, couldn't be listening to a lad that turned up at his first match of the year "knowing it all". Pity the railway cup is a dead duck, it could really be a good competition if players etc (and to be fair club commitments allowed) took it seriously.
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Post by ciarrai33 on May 26, 2006 17:25:58 GMT
As was mentioned in a previous post if felt like there was up to a thousand Waterford supporters at the game. What do you think brought these (very excitable) people over to Killarney on one of the worst days imaginable??? Maybe it was to see their team (often referred to as the worst team in Ireland) play the Kingdom, David V Goliath, or maybe they wanted to see the stars of the GAA. The Gooch, Seamus Moynihan, Dara O' Se. The sight of which we have taken for granted for the last few years. I'm fed up of doling out the excuse of how far Kerry have to travel for most championship games, the cost etc., when we do get the team in our own back yard we should make an effort to show that the players efforts are appreciated. Its not like they normally dish out the finest in Puke football. It’s a pleasure to watch the Kingdom in full flow. Guaranteed that last Sunday was a once off, the combination of weather and Munster, but there should be no excuse in a few weeks time against Tipp, (don’t think Munster have a team in the soccer world cup). Kerry showed against cork in last years Munster final that we are capable of traveling when we have to. I estimate that we comfortably outnumbered them that day. Some of the smaller championship games in the last few years have left lasting memories in my mind. Hands up who can remember the Gooch intercepting the Fermanagh goalies kick out, and chipping him to score a goal in 2002. Was it ever on TV even, or Tom o' Se's burst up the field against Wicklow that same year ending up in a goal also. I've seen so much highlights these last few years, its always a pleasure watching the Kingdom. Come out and support. What about Mossie Fitz point against Dublin Killian Burns late point against cork to ensure victory in the rain in 1996 Eoin Brosnans goal in 2002 against Kildare The Gooches chip against Fermanagh 2002 The last 5 min of the first half against Limerick (replay) 2004. Armagh in 2000 Watching over our shoulder in 2000 as Cork slowly played catch up, then Steven O' Brien passed a simple free straight to a kerryman. Broke the momentum League match V Dublin 2004. Looked all over by the first half, what a turnaround I'm sure there are plenty more reasons to watch the kingdom also, My favorite was from less cynical days when Dara O' Se would lord it in midfield for a 5 min period, and Kerry would end up with 1-3 without reply. Always a reason to watch the Kingdom. It is not a chore watching the Kingdom
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Post by RashersTierney on May 27, 2006 9:56:18 GMT
Well said 33, keep it ubbeat! I'm always on the bandwagon. When I first went to a match, the Dubs went from zeros to heros in one season (1983), after two what can only be described as comical games against Meath, where we won in extra time after a daft fluke of a goal got another draw. I remeber how everyone was saying, "We'll be down for a few years!" Its been hard for them in my eyes to live up to the highs that subsequently ensued that year, but in a funny kind of way its made me more conscious of how lucky I am to follow a team that somehow always seems to "have a chance", and whatever happens gives me some great days out every year, both in League & Champo. Still, I dont mind whoever turns up to watch, so long as they support with passion and celebrate the day with enthusiasm, win, lose or draw. These days out are precious, and to meet other supporters, both my own and other counties, is really what makes it all worthwhile.
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Post by Mickmack on May 27, 2006 20:16:20 GMT
1983....... Was Pillar sent off or am i mistaken......
Rashers......... thats a terrible injustice that has been done to Dublin......asking them to travel as far as longford...... what do ya think.. I know some dub supporters and they will travel up to 13 miles to see their team play in croke park!
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Post by Jo90 on May 28, 2006 0:22:04 GMT
Killian Burns late point against cork to ensure victory in the rain in 1996 To paraphrase Andie McDowell's cheesy line... Was it raining? I hadn't noticed.
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Post by RashersTierney on May 28, 2006 10:53:38 GMT
MickMack, I'm very glad you mentioned that - it's a total disgrace, and I've only kept quiet about it so as not to give the Mighty Longford any more motivational material! ;)Amongst other inconveniences (not to mention the toilets in Pearse Park) I now have to get out my old school map of Leinster and plot a traffic-jam-free route to the game across the wild bogs of North Westmeath. Anyone who has been on those roads will tell you that its a journey not undertaken lightly. One is liable at any point to be TURFed out of one's open-top bus ( being tested out for September ), and a supension of all reading, such as of the Sunday World, must take place, not to mention a suspension of the vehicle suspension.........almost inevitably, shocks abound! Of course I would join my fellow pilgrims on one of the "special" (luxury?) trains from James' Connolly's fine memorial station, except that I'm staying with friends in a weird and wild place known as Collinstown on the Saturday night. Now here's something even more outrageous than us having to travel to this outpost of civilisation - there's no welcoming reception organised in Longford for the saturday night, unlike in Thurles in 2001 for example, where the Miss Macra Na Feirme World competition was specially brought forward to include the Dubs as guest judges! (which obviously explains the ensuing traffic chaos..... ) Also, believe it or not, they are refusing to erect a big screen in the square for the benefit of the hoardes of dedicated fans who will be left out in the cold due to the limited capacity of the Pearse Superdrome. I mean I ask you! Would Kerry or Tyrone or Armagh be treated like this??
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Post by RashersTierney on May 28, 2006 12:07:24 GMT
PS Mick, in reply to the Caffrey question, I think its John Caffrey of Lucan you are referring to, the famous "third midfielder" of the 1983 Leinster Final. He was sent off against Meath in the 1984 Leinster final, and I think, if memory serves me correctly, it was for retaliation on Ben Tansey.
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Post by Admin on Jun 13, 2006 10:21:29 GMT
Worst supporters in the world? Post by Jo90 on Yesterday at 10:04
2 home championship games for Kerry producing a cumulative attendance of just over 10,000. Dreadful support for a County with a population of 130,000. No other county in Ireland would produce such low figures for 2 home c'ship games in their main sport.
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Re: Worst supporters in the world? Post by sullyschoice on Yesterday at 10:24
Not far off the mark there Jo.
No excuses about the weather yesterday. i have travelled from Dublin and stayed over for the last two matches, bringing my eldest with me. I dont mind paying to go and see the games. What excuse do thousands of county residents have. Come September(if we get antwhere near the Final) I am sure there will be plenty of them travelling. And by then I will have the annual pain in my hole trying to cajole a ticket from somewhere, usually getting one at about 1.30pm on match day.
This weekend wouldnt have cost me so much if I didnt go to the dog track in Tralee on Saturday though
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Re: Worst supporters in the world? Post by austinstacksabu on Yesterday at 10:50
Well, we were better than Limerick who've spent €30m upgrading the Gaelic Grounds and they had 7500 between both football games!!
In all fairness, the crowds at all the games thus far have been very poor, as has the standard of play on the pitches. I suspect it's a bit of a correction summer ahead for the GAA.
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Re: Worst supporters in the world? Post by ruralgaa on Yesterday at 10:52
Totally out done by the Tipp support in our own back yard yesterday. bar cherring any time got a score in both matches Kerry supporters were dead. Tipp cheered their team all through the junior game and for 55 min of the senior affair, roaring on Tipp at half time. alot of the time we are lacking color and not half as vocal as the opposition. i no it was tipp but still.
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Re: Worst supporters in the world? Post by MrT on Yesterday at 11:13
I wonder has the World Cup got anything to do with the poor attendeces in yesterdays games or are supporters genuinely not interesed in watchin their county teams anymore.
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Re: Worst supporters in the world? Post by buck02 on Yesterday at 11:17
There will be 40000 there for the Munster final. Then about 5000 Kerry people will travel for the 1/4 final, 10000 for the semi final and then the usual sh1te about not being able to get tickets for the final. Its the way its always been and will always be.
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Re: Worst supporters in the world? Post by Jo90 on Yesterday at 11:42
40,000 for the Munster Final? - I seriously doubt it There was little over 10,000 Kerry fans at last year's final so they'll be lucky to have 20,000 Kerry fans this year. I doubt Cork will increase their travelling support from 1,000 to 20,000 after their woeful display yesterday. Also it clashes with the World Cup Final which is sure to impact the attendance figures.
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Re: Worst supporters in the world? Post by milko on Yesterday at 12:05
Can't see 40,000 for final mainly due to the fact that the standard of football played by both teams so far has been diabolical against poor teams.
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Re: Worst supporters in the world? Post by watchdahop on Yesterday at 14:02
There will be 40,000 in Killarney for the Munster Final. Especially since its on in Killarney. Even in their worst days Cork followers travelled to Killarney. They go cos its a good day out and they make a weekend of it. Besides they will fancy their chances this year cos Kerry are not going so well (I know they aren't either) but Cork football supporters never let reality stand in the way of expectations!!
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Re: Worst supporters in the world? Post by austinstacksabu on Yesterday at 16:18
There won't be simply because Cork aren't giving a fiddlers fart about their footballers at the moment. There will be 35k or thereabouts at the game.
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Re: Worst supporters in the world? Post by BIGMAC on Today at 10:49
was in dublin on sunday for a gig and in the dubliner bar in ballsbridge the world cup and gaa were on with the majority watching the gaa,even the yanks thouth it was better than the scoccer
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Post by RashersTierney on Jun 15, 2006 9:52:28 GMT
I'm off to Frankfurt next week for a few days on the World Cup bandwagon! Will be watching Dubs-Laois in McGowans Irish bar in the Bohemian Quarter, oh the agonies of watching on tv...... Just found out it looks like my mate has two tickets for the Argentina-Holland game, "This is gonna be GREEEAAT!"
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 26, 2006 17:38:35 GMT
Now is the time to get off the band wagon folks. Saturday afternoon is the time for the team, management and dare I say supporters to S**t or get off the pot! We have had the draw and loss to Cork /the postmortems/ rumours. The team has been changed around. A lot of the changes are what we were looking for.
Now is the team to show up and get behind the team! I dont want to be seeing posts here on monday saying "The support was bad" "I was listening on the radio and it sounded bad" etc
Give the part time supporters the guilt trip. Telling anyone wavering that the true fans will be there on Stturday.
I think this team is set up to play real attacking football (the old way)
Its up to the fans to do their part: get the finger out go and support the team and make a bit of noise.
Come on the Kingdom!!
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Post by Catrionaosullivan on Jul 27, 2006 20:43:54 GMT
Ya i totally agree wit u watchdahop!!!! nd i hope your right about real attacking football being played again!!
Noise is one thing Kerry supporters lack!! For instance... A Kerry-Cork Munster final in killarney and its the cork supporters we could hear in da 2nd half!!?? not right lik!! kerry needed a boost form the supporters!!!!!
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Post by buck02 on Jul 28, 2006 10:45:19 GMT
Jack Connor is quoted today in the paper as saying that the Kerry support was a disgrace in Cork and those who were there were more interested in criticising rather than supporting the team. He also said that this is probably the last time this team will play in Killarney and they deserve a big turnout.
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 28, 2006 10:52:39 GMT
Agree Buck.
Put it another way it might be the last time ever maybe for the likes of Seamus and Dara line up in a Kerry Jersey in Killarney if those fellows dont deserve support who does?
Personally I think its a joke that we could have maybe 3 times more support at a AI final than we will have in Killlarney saturday. If you know anyone in that boat you might make that point. Get the numbers out.
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Post by TheCritic on Jul 28, 2006 10:54:35 GMT
Well if we had something to Cheer about we would!!! Who does he think he is Roy Keane!!!! Nice to know they appreciated the effort the few of us mad!!
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Post by surfdude62 on Jul 28, 2006 11:12:29 GMT
I've previously stated this in another thread and i'll say it again!We need to adopt a Munster type support!When Munster were low in energy during matches,it was the supporters who gave them a boost by making noise at the right times and more importantly the supporters knew when to give it!We need to turn out in big numbers tomorrow and forget the past games and who was/wasn't at the Cork replay!Its over so lets move on and make a fresh start!Get behind the boys tomorrow and get another day out in Croker!
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Post by buck02 on Jul 28, 2006 11:43:21 GMT
Sorry Surfdude but you'll never catch me singing the fields of athenry at a kerry match (isnt thats munster fans only song?).
I think theres a siege mentality being created in the camp at the moment - us against the world type thing. Win against Longford and we'll be playing our 21st championship game in Croke Pk since 1996. Those who wait for the all ireland final should remember that.
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Post by surfdude62 on Jul 28, 2006 11:57:27 GMT
Who said anything about singing the fields of athenry?I'm just saying we should know when to up the ante in the stands when the boys are out on their feet!
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 28, 2006 12:17:43 GMT
I think Jacks comments were directed at the people who didnt travel rather than those who did.
Also I don't think attending the game makes a statement of whether you are pro or anti Jack or any individual. I think it should be more of a statement of being pro Kerry.
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Post by smellUlater on Jul 28, 2006 12:30:40 GMT
Firstly Jack i suppose was annoyed at the sparse kerry support, then to have a*****es cheering at Jack or Declan when declan was subsituted i suppose hit a nerve.Well u wouldn't blame him. Also largely it was the "kerry supporters" who have been acting the b****x with their whispering campaigns and rumours trying to cause unrest in the kerry camp so as long as kerry do the biz on saturday i say the players and management won't mind if it 10 or 10,000 kerry supports turned up.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 28, 2006 12:31:52 GMT
I think people here are sick and tired of Kerry, despite being the most successful team in the country, also being the worst supported. I for one didnt enjoy being outnumbered 5-1 by Cork supporters, who themselves are not known for supporting their footballers the last time out.
Jack Connor can say whatever he wants about the fans - havnt us fans been saying what we like about the team and management and this platform and others over the recent months. Bomber Liston also touched on this in his piece in the Star today - poor support with some thinking Kerry have the devine right to win each and every game.
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Post by islandexile on Jul 28, 2006 12:45:01 GMT
O’Connor blasts fickle supporters From Hoganstand
Kerry manager Jack O’Connor has hit out at a section of the county’s support which travelled to Pairc Ui Chaoimh for the Munster final replay defeat to Cork.
Speaking ahead of Saturday’s crunch All-Ireland football qualifier against Longford in Killarney, an angry O’Connor said: “Obviously the support in Cork was very disappointing.
“In fact, some of those that travelled appeared to do so to criticise rather than to support the team. That goes with the territory and we are not overly concerned about that.
“We realise that the team has not been firing on all cylinders up to now, and that needs to happen first before the fans get excited.”
The 2004 All-Ireland winning boss has urged fans to turn out in great numbers to support the team against Longford, adding that this could be their last chance to see some of the Kingdom’s more experienced players perform on home soil.
“I think that it is a great chance for fans to see this team playing at home in Killarney for probably the last time because there is no doubt in my mind that this team will break up to a certain extent after this year.
“So if the fans cannot come out and support the team in Killarney, well then where are you going?”
O’Connor’s predecessor Paidi O Se fell out of favour with many Kerry supporters when he infamously called them “f***ing aninals” in 2003.
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Post by Aine on Jul 28, 2006 12:56:04 GMT
I am not generalising so please don't "jump on the bandwagon"! In my opinion the initial reaction of kerry fans seems to be 'kick while they are down'. I know it is frustrating to watch our team performing below what we believe to be their standards but as has been stated in many posts in the past few days, it is the fans who can lift a teams performance by getting behind them and acknowledging the efforts they put in to a game. There was a very positive vibe on the forum yesterday but it seems to have slipped a bit today - we need to stay possitive and cheer on the Kingdom
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Post by KY50 on Jul 28, 2006 13:07:20 GMT
Jack has a point about some of the supporters that went to Cork. At this stage lets put all that behind us, it will get us nowhere We must get behind the team, turn out, be vocal and push them to SAM 2006. (I think the Munster rubgy supporters were worth a few points to their team both in Thomand park and in Cardiff)
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 1, 2006 13:01:46 GMT
Admin,
As a senior poster, who has, at all times, tried his best to adhere to the rules of this site, I write this open post to ask a simple question.
Can you explain what was unfair, inaccurate or unclean about the recent posting by GawksieGorman whichwas pulled.
If you read back on this very thread, you will notice that I was one of those supporters who stood up and cheered when Jack O'Connor finally brought Declan O'Sullivan off in Pairc Ui Caoimh. Why? I was so frustrated that he hadn't before, and delighted that finally, he had made the hard call he had been avoiding for so long. I wasn't booing or anything of the sort.
I happen to agree with what Gawksie wrote, and could find no complaint with what he posted, yet you pulled it because, it would appear, Jack was being criticised for his comments in the press about Kerry support. Gawksie had every right to say what he said, and I cannot understand why you pulled this.
I'm a huge fan of this forum, and the tremendous work you do in maintaining it. However, I am very disappointed that you pulled this post - a step too far Admin.
This is an open post asking that if possible you repost Gawksies comments. They should not have been pulled.
Austinstacksabu.
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Post by watchdahop on Aug 1, 2006 13:52:47 GMT
Stacks I agree with this post. I also happened to have a post edited at the same time as Gawksie Gorman. I understand Admin why you would want to remove devisive comments but I will make two points: Jack was being critical himself of the supporters so live by the sword die by it and all that. Plenty of supporters were abused here for their stance in Pairc Ui Chaoimh. Those posts were not pulled though.
Anyway it might be better to let sleeping dogs lie but I am just making the point.
I want also to agree with Stacks to say that you a very good job in what must be sometimes difficult circumstances.
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Post by Admin on Aug 1, 2006 16:23:00 GMT
Ok. Here goes. - no doubt this reply will get shot down! - but anyway… The post was removed as it was deemed over the top, and unfair on the management in places. The team was already picked when the post was made; the management had already made the hard calls - and yet the word cowardly was used more than once. Unnecessary. Yes, during the week Jack did say “Obviously the support in Cork was very disappointing. In fact, some of those that travelled appeared to do so to criticise rather than to support the team.” ...But should anyone feel the need to respond so vehemently against this – No. The support WAS disappointing. Any time you are outnumber 3 to 1 it is disappointing. Who can disagree? & some supporters did criticise unnecessarily (as well as support) – The jeers were a criticism of the initial selection and the player, and could not be taken as a ‘show of support’ for change. (Surely ye can see this was not the way to show support, and that it was always going to be interpreted negatively.) In the same article he said that “We realise that the team has not been firing on all cylinders up to now, and that needs to happen first before the fans get excited.” ...honest criticism of the team – from the manager. & thankfully the supporters came out in number v Longford and gave the team a great boost. We did need, and continue to need to get behind the team and show some solidarity.= = = = Now, some general comments… Unfortunately, just because other people agree with comments does not automatically make them suitable for print! Everyone surely realises that. Majority rule cannot apply on a public forum – as people will quickly take advantage. (Many posts are deleted and users banned every week – and there is no other way – some users are way out of line). The purpose of this forum is to promote Kerry GAA when possible, and we will accept constructive criticism, but there is no place for rumours, slander, abuse, pointless criticism, personal comments etc. Clean, Fair, Honest, Accurate, Constructive criticism is welcome. And ideally, we would ask that EVERY contributor post their full name and contact details – but the mask of anonymity is far more appealing it seems! This influences the level of censorship also. - we have the facilities to include only valid constructive criticism and content that promotes Kerry GAA, so do you not expect us to implement this control – at least to some degree? Have a look at some of the other GAA forums – a lot which has fallen in anarchy – read some of the posts - and honestly ask yourself if it fair to players and management (and their families) to have to read criticise to such a hateful degree from these sites. By enforcing some level of censorship over the years on this site, we now have a core group of outstanding contributors on the Kerry forum that know to keep it fair and honest.But at the same time, we have lost some fine contributors over the years because we deemed their posts unsuitable and they disagreed with the slap on the wrist. It is a shame. But sometimes passion becomes anger, and anger is released in severe criticism/abuse and there becomes a need to modify/delete/ban. More than once, a club representative, a family member or a player themselves have actually contacted us and asked that content be removed. - People DO read the forum, the posts can do harm, and we have to be constantly aware of how a simple criticism might seriously upset someone. Understandable? Finally, a question that has been put to many members of this forum… What right do we have to (anonymously) criticise so publicly and so vehemently the players and management who put in far more that we can imagine? These guys bust a gut for the jersey all year round, give nothing less that 110% in every game, and yet we saunter onto the forum on a Monday morning and nit-pick at every dropped ball or mis-kick or unfashionable selection – sometimes to an unreasonable degree. Not right.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 1, 2006 16:32:38 GMT
1) Fully agree on your approach to the site admin, and always admire the work you do. 2) Still think the Gawksie post was within the limits but we've discussed that on PM so we'll leave it at that. 3) When Jack criticises Kerry fans, they have an equal right to criticise him back once it is constructive.
Anyway, keep up the good work Admin. And gawksie, don't give up on us in here. Your posts are among the best - rare as hens teeth though they be.
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Post by watchdahop on Aug 1, 2006 16:45:28 GMT
Admin I have to complement your post. I t puts your action on the matter in perspective. It makes more sense now.
I think your outline of forum policy which gives a good idea of what is acceptable and what is not.
It might even be useful to make people read the policy before they log in to make a comment.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 1, 2006 18:04:50 GMT
A masterful post Admin if I may so so.......
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