seamus
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Post by seamus on Jun 19, 2006 14:18:50 GMT
I wish the shannon rangers players and managment had as much interest in the teams as members on this forum. Everytime a shannon rangers team is about to play we get around 30 posts about the team, what players to pick and how much potential they have and then they self destruct. Ability is one thing but application and a willingness to do the hard work is more important and sadly lacking in North Kerry in general. Until such time as this is addressed there will be fewer and fewer north kerry players on county teams as county championship games is where selectors get to view players performing.
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Post by MrT on Jun 19, 2006 15:22:04 GMT
Not too clear on it yet. Club teams like Dingle, Gaeltacht, Strand Rd, Laune rgs, and the Stacks will be caught if minors cant play. There is a tralee competition being played before the championship begins where minors can play. That will include town teams possibly Dingle and Laune Rgs, as well as brendans and keirans who are confirmed to take part No harm for this comp to be started.if a u21 is knocked out early then ther is notin to do for the rest of the summer,at least with this kinda competition till keep fellahs interested
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Post by paddybradley on Jun 20, 2006 16:59:24 GMT
This town league is serving as a warm up for the championship so teams taking part should be better prepared. Perhaps a shield competition for weaker teams knocked out of the first phase would be a good addition?
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Post by black on Jun 20, 2006 17:19:33 GMT
what about shane enright(Tarbert) black....started corner back for the seniors against east kerry!! wud easily make that team. flash wrote
Minors cant play in this competition
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Post by expert05 on Jun 23, 2006 19:35:55 GMT
Dingle could go far in this comp. Good idea to run off a club u21 league before the county comp.
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Post by ruralgaa on Jun 29, 2006 15:44:20 GMT
Laune Rangers - v - Listowel Emmets A An Ghaeltacht - v - West Kerry B Kenmare District - v - Austin Stacks C
well only 2 of these games are up for decision this evening. Stacks gave Kenmare a walkover earlier today.
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Post by realist on Jun 29, 2006 16:21:54 GMT
That's terrible that a big town club like stacks can't field an u-21 team. Shocking really!
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Post by expert05 on Jun 29, 2006 16:40:02 GMT
heard stacks had over 20 players v listowel on monday night. But obviously 6/7 of these were minors. But still no excuse not to get a team together. u21 competitions are being overlooked in this county compared to others.
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Post by paddybradley on Jun 29, 2006 20:45:00 GMT
In fairness to stacks they have quite a good team coming up with the likes of Alan Creagh, Grahame O Connell and young Barry Shanahan on the way up. They almost won the comp. a few years back!!!!
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Post by Jacko on Jun 29, 2006 21:26:09 GMT
west kerry not feilding against ghaeltacht,not enough players i think. heard that crokes were short on players is that bull or what?
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Post by topscorer on Jul 2, 2006 13:04:39 GMT
You have to say south kerry again but if they get a good team at them early on they might find it hard to gel as a team as oppose to maybe a club team such as Rahillys or Dingle or the Rockys.....
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Post by twenty on Jul 3, 2006 8:45:30 GMT
Cant see any club team doin it without their minors. shambles by the co board, think crokes have now pulled out too...
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Post by knowsitall on Jul 3, 2006 10:13:47 GMT
Complete Shambles Alrite, Might as well just put d divisional sides into the semis as no club team will be able to compete without minors.... Fcking joke by the county board....... The U-21 champ is a joke and maybe thts the reason cork are winning all the U-21 Matchs against Us the last few years
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Post by ruralgaa on Jul 3, 2006 10:30:18 GMT
Agree with with knowsitall, the u21 championship has been a joke the last 6 years and the number of teams pulling out due to the fact that they can't field teams without minors is increasing year on year. the fact that it's run during the summer when a number of players are gone abroad also contributes to this. this age group is neglected by the county board at both domestic and inter county level. Kerry won't win an all-ireland at this age group for awhile unless the county board get the finger out.
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Post by twenty on Jul 3, 2006 10:43:47 GMT
Co Board are a joke, they want to have an u21 champ to bridge gap between minor and senior by givin players games, wit clubs droppin out all over the place, all that will happen is the loss of young players to other sports... wise up sean welsh
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Post by seamus on Jul 3, 2006 11:07:55 GMT
The county board just want to play this competition off as fast as possible without realising the effect it is having on the county u-21s.
This competition should be played between october and christmas. Now before people go nuts, hear me out:
1. All players will be around that time of year, no students in America etc 2. Pitches are a lot better now with loads of all weather pitches in the county. 3. It will give the county u21 selectors a proper basis to select a team for the coming year 4. If it runs into January then so what. Most young fella's love playing ball anyway and a proper competition is the most important factor. 5. Minors will be allowed play as they cannot hold up the competition that time of year. Clubs will then have a fair chance.
Otherwise, we might as well just tell South Kerry and East Kerry to show up for the final every year as they are the only teams that can cope with the new system.
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Post by SteelFixer on Jul 3, 2006 12:49:37 GMT
Well said Seamus ! However in my opinion it should be played at the start of the year !
In the hey day of this competition in the late 1980's and 1990's, the competition was played in this period and there was some great championships ! In this period around 8 different sides got there hands on the cup and I can remember one year even the Mitchels got to the final ! The county U21 panel every year was greatly influenced by this competion and surprise surprise in this period the county team won the Munster nearly every year and contested most All Ireland finals !
The current set up is complete joke and the sooner its changed the better !
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Post by donkey on Jul 3, 2006 23:08:58 GMT
its shocking about the minors u can play senior but u cant play u21 its a joke..what club team will do the best do u think??
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jul 4, 2006 10:13:58 GMT
I agreee totally that the U21 county championship should be run, or at least started, by the time the intercounty championship comes around. Teh argument against this is that it will lead to fixture congestion. the answer to this is to stop wrapping players in cottonwool. there is no harm in top players playing a game every week. if a fella gets injured then so be it. the risks are the same for every county
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Post by topscorer on Jul 4, 2006 18:48:59 GMT
It's a disgrace that club teams are gonna have to pull out of games because they can't play minors. it gives the advantage to district teams only.
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Post by paddybradley on Jul 4, 2006 22:18:11 GMT
By right minors should be allowed to play as they will be available for inter county u21 next year and it will help in picking the best group of 30 players, either this or play the co. champ before the munster champ so they can pick this panel and also have players available who will be going abroad during the summer
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 5, 2006 7:51:31 GMT
Gaeltacht and Crokes fixed for tomorrow night? Crokes can't play Kieran Leary (on Senior panel) or any of their Kerry minors. Why don't the guys who fixed this just tell the clubs involved up yours and eff off...it would take less time. If the clubs involved took the same attitude to nuturing you players what would have happened the likes of Dara, Marc, Tomas, Gooch and Eoin Brosnan.
Funny enough it seems the U21 c'ship is a nuisance to be run off as quickly as possible at the same time the county U21s are going through their worst patch in 20 years. Coincidence? I don't think so.
The neglect of the U21 grade in the county and regarding inter county level will really come against Kerry in the years to come.
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Post by wonka on Jul 6, 2006 18:39:19 GMT
This comp has been put back now till end of summer- so MINORS will be aloud play which will allow teams which where thinkin of dropping out a graet chane again!only right that minors can play-some good comments about the whole minor situation!but my opinion is that minors should be given the chance to play-this is where they will gain experience for senior standards and give the U21 management a better chance to pick a proper team that will go on to win an all-ireland!the players are there!!
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Post by seamus on Jul 7, 2006 9:16:19 GMT
Good post watchthehop. If this is true about the minors wonka what about the teams that were already beaten last week? Seems unfair.
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Post by SteelFixer on Jul 7, 2006 9:38:28 GMT
If its true, its the most sensible couse of action in the current circumstances ! It will allow the clubs and smaller divisions to be more competitive and will allow players that went travelling for the summer the chance to play county U21 ! How they will accomodate teams who were beaten last week I don't know ! I can also imagine that the teams who won last week or got WO's would'nt be enthused about playing a re-match !
I'll take your word on it Wonka and I hope your right, but to be honest I would'nt hold my breath ! It would be unprecedented to change the rules and criteria of a competion after it has started !
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Post by wonka on Jul 7, 2006 10:48:11 GMT
im only going by what im told-i bve been told that this comp has been put back for a good few weeks!it may be unfair on the other teams but will make it an interesting championship with club teams like crokes,dingle and rahilles all back in the frame!
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Post by realist on Jul 7, 2006 11:15:55 GMT
Yerra it seems that the county board just seem to change things around whenever it suits them so. They are messing young fella around. What about all the guys that are too old for minor but cant make there Senior team that want to play football during the summer??
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Post by realist on Jul 7, 2006 11:41:23 GMT
Valid point KN!
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Post by gaadevotee on Jul 7, 2006 11:42:05 GMT
KerryNorth loads of teams were after pulling out so they had to rearrange the whole thing. there are plenty B leagues etc. A lot of the smaller clubs and divisional teams need their minors playing if they are to field a team
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Post by surfdude62 on Jul 19, 2006 10:16:16 GMT
Hey all!Championship starting tomorrow eve!Who do ye fancy to go through?
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